 Hi, I'm Dr. Brani Kaur, Technology Analyst at ID TechX and I'm here with Samuel Jericho from the 3D Labs at the TU in Berlin. Now, Samuel, could you tell me a little bit more about 3D Labs? Yeah, so we are an institution at the Technical University of Berlin and we are specialised in 3D scanning and 3D printing. We have two big topics, medicine, technology and museums. Okay, alright. So could you tell me a little bit more about the products and the technology that you're showcasing at the ID TechX show? Yeah, right now we are showing two big sculptures, one from an Akhenaten. It's a Parao that you can find in the Egyptian Museum, it's a replica and the other one is Polar Bear Knut that was a famous bear in 2011 and this is a replica based on CT scans and we both printed them with a plastic printer in gypsum and here we also have other technologies, plastic printer. Okay. Yeah, we mostly produce smaller models with a plastic printer, it's called a selective laser centering and these models can be, they are flexible, the gypsum models are not but they are big and the small models are a little bit flexible but we not only print beautiful models but also functional models so replacement parts, parts that have to work, that have to adaptors, switches, cases for electronics but also our logo and sculptures and resized CT files. It looks like something like that would be very fragile. In fact something already broke up but it's no problem, we can still reprint it and it's sized up by the factor of two, the original is like this big but resizing on the computer is no problem but with a gypsum printer we cannot do all sizes because the models are more fragile but gypsum print can be colored so if you want to have a multicolored object it has to be gypsum and yeah so we are very diverse in what we do, it's technical and cultural so serious and fun objects are possible with us and yeah we work together with museums and for example institutions like the German Heart Centre but actually everyone can come with a 3D file to print. So do you think museums would be the primary beneficiary of this technology? Not primary but they are benefiting, they really see the advantage of 3D scanning and printing for example if you need a replica because you want to lend the original to another country then they could show an empty post but most museums want to show a replica or if you want to restore an object you don't exercise on the original, you do it with a copy or a very interesting application is creating touchable models for blind people so they don't have to rely on hearing text, the description of the models but they can touch it and they are resizing a model that makes sense seeing people would go closer to see an object in more detail but blind people cannot do it that's why we can resize models either bigger or smaller depending on what details we want to show but touchable models are also nice for every kid who are not happy while just looking at objects and making objects of museums touchable is the next big step and 3D scanning is the start to make a replica and 3D printing is the end maybe not completely the end, sometimes we have to post process the objects to create a specific surface the printers can only make one kind of surface, that's the limit so if you want to have for example a golden moon, we cannot print in gold, it's way too expensive so we print it in polyamide 12 and then we coat it with leaf gold so this is one example of post processing and this is only for our benefit we want to showcase this but all museum objects are helpful for bringing museum exhibitions a step forward because museums try to stay modern and on time with their exhibits great, and then just one last question, what do you think of the ID Talk exhibition? well for us it's very interesting, when we were first exhibiting here we were a little bit strange because we were introducing nothing electronic but it was very welcomed by the people and that's why we are here every year and we are a nice addition I think and when we take a break and look through all the other technologies we also, of course we learn stuff because it's not our topic and we find, every time we find a connection between two different technologies there are hours and the other where there are potential steps for the future so some develop a material that has never been used in 3D printing for example and then we are interested in what can the material do for 3D printing for the sculptures or photo types and for electric conductivity, we never thought about it but it's obviously a topic so we also think about it so the connection between so different companies is very interesting for us and also talking with people, some come and don't know Jack about 3D printing that's interesting and some people know everything and still we can tell about, as you realize now I cannot stop talking so it's such a fair, it's very interesting for us and we are happy to come back next year Thank you very much for giving us such a detailed insight into your beautiful models that you've brought along You're welcome Thank you