 All right All right If you guys want to introduce yourselves as I get my commenting set up Go ahead fluffy Hi, I'm fluffy You're nor cal rep Sully Hi, I'm sully your northeast rep And I'm Chris I'm in the Toronto area Representing Wonderland Sweet awesome. So everything's set up. Everyone's mics are working much better than last week Yay. All right. So this week's basically what happened is we I was supposed to be at Wonderland today filming a very large shipment coming in It's like three trucks worth The shipment a I didn't really feel like going I was really exhausted and be I The shipment came in really late. So we pushed the live stream back to a little later That's why we're doing a little later. We're dividing the live stream up into two parts. So today will be Part number one and then tomorrow at 8 30 p.m. Our regular time on Monday will be the second part So today we're gonna react to the announcement so far and then speculate on two parts Future based off of ride closures and teasers So I guess we'll start off right off the bat With worlds of fun and boathouse So I don't really know how to fully react to this I mean, I almost feel like Cedar Faire's additions are getting a little More low scale for the smaller parks. Like I was expecting a little more for worlds of fun So I'm a little let down so far Maybe there'll be something further Who knows what do you guys think about the boardwalk restaurant being announced on National War coaster today? Was this announced on National Coast today or was it announced on the 15th? Yeah, it was. Yeah Personally From where so just to get a baseline here. I Feel like National Roller Coaster Day is for parks that actually want to announce roller coasters That's not shade at all, but I feel like Some parks should definitely take advantage of that. I know that some parks Took advantage of the day that everyone really pays attention to their social media just in case, you know They announced something and that's why people parks take advantage of it For food, I heard that they really did need one a new restaurant and from what I could tell it's a very nice sit-in restaurant or dine-in restaurant and Maybe we could see a bigger addition come in next year As one of the parks that were rumored Which we'll probably get into later on in the streamer next week or just later down later on down the line We'll talk about how how Dornie Park or worlds of fun These two parks are mainly rumored to get brand new coasters And you know we could be seeing that happen. Maybe this is just a little a small year for them to save up Yeah Anyone else Chris solid fully go ahead. I mean, I wasn't really expecting Anything big from worlds of fun. I mean the restaurant does look nice Yes, Fluffy said hopefully this year is just not here just some general parking enhancements and this restaurant and maybe next year Get that long rumored coaster Yeah, and I I guess they need food I haven't been to this park yet, but I've heard that food is definitely something they need more of more restaurants And I noticed with Cedar Fair they will announce what they're adding But then in the middle of the season or when the season opens I should say you'll see that maybe other stuff happened as well that they didn't talk about so maybe we'll see Some more little things here and there Yeah, it's interesting because normally they don't announce restaurants Normally those are things that are announced at the beginning of the season like you just said So that's what has me Well, I mean, I guess there's really more coming Hopefully I don't accept anything bigger than a restaurant Yeah, they were also rumored to get a thrill ride So like a like maybe is a prayer of a hawker of arson super loop So they would have announced that with the launch of season passes. I believe to boost season pass sales Yeah, I think yeah, I think right in the straight Alrighty, I guess we're let's move on from the restaurant. Oh, no. Oh boy. I should have put triggered on here. Yep Okay, so normally this would be a fantastic addition and an awesomely welcomed addition to the park, but I Agree with the Kings Island fans and I'm a Canada's one of them fans. I'm not biased, but I agree They were I feel like and as amusement insiders we talked about this as a group as well They were overhyping this because they're teasing for 2020 way too early They should not have started teasing for whatever is coming in 2020 Like starting a month ago It should have waited until after the answer because everyone thought what this storyline for outposts 5 happened to do with 2019 and not 2020 so I actually agree I think that They greatly overhyped this. Oh, we'll get to that in a second and what do you guys think? Do you think this was overhyped? I mean, I think it's a great addition, but I definitely think it was overhyped fluffy Yeah, I agree this it was overhyped We had a mix between of good responses and bad responses to this announcement Once again, they announced this on National Roller Coaster Day They heavily teased the National Roller Coaster Day announcement here I Think this was the wrong day to do it because a lot of people got triggered I Mean who knows? We don't we don't really know maybe there's more That that really meets the eye. Maybe the antique cars can somehow Put in a little bit of a story arc or something who knows But definitely the wrong time to tease Yeah, it's a great addition though Like I mean Kings Island means that family additions because of winter fastened it really well I just think they chose the wrong pictures too. Like what was with racer in the teaser? Hmm versus like, you know something more directed towards this But what do you what do you think sully? Well, I was Expecting antique cars. I didn't think they were gonna get like an RMC son of beast or anything like that But I do agree was overhyped I think this is kind of what Kings Island or not Kings Island. This is Kings Island I this is kind of what Kings Dominion did in 2017 with that planet stupid addition And then the next year they got that heavily rumored RMC hurler And I think we're definitely gonna be seeing something like that here Whether it be a gig or a wing coaster or whatever is rumored But this is definitely gonna play out like Kings Island or Kings and then So I want to read I design's comic because I actually this is true Kings Island didn't overhype it It's it's it's definitely the media and all that so he put Where is it here it is Kings Island wasn't over hyping this at all the media and other Kings Island fans overhyped This I would definitely agree But there's definitely I'm on both sides So I the media when they did that article about what's coming in 2019 that really blew the set of proportion So that that definitely has a lot to play with them But I do think they started with teasing with those posters at Cedar Point a little too early They should have focused on the parks that were announcing coasters this year and not started the teasing posters for other Parks that aren't getting until 2020 until after right announcements. I don't know if you guys agree with that at all. I heavily agree I Do you feel like it was it was kind of enthusiasts including myself, you know hyping it up a little bit too, right? I mean It's not just the park, but obviously the park has to take some responsibility Yeah, I definitely feel like they like coaster enthusiasts definitely took a huge like we over and now analyzed it and the whole all these theories just started soaring off and I mean Who knows maybe maybe they were maybe maybe they're just doing something like Things Dominion did maybe there really is more coming who has anyone searched for the RMC initials yet. I don't think so over analyzing teasers Really No Yeah, I think I think this was a great addition for the park and definitely that the media and And just media sources just took this in a whole different direction Yeah, I've also noticed one thing during this is that Kings Island has like crazy fans Not crazy bad, but like just really excited and really intense about the park. Yeah, really intense Yeah, I do wish that we had that at Wonderland though because I mean it does benefit you sometimes Yeah, we do and we don't not quite the level of Kings Island Brendan I think you're the craziest Wonderland fan ever so And true. Oh my god, wait till I reveal how many visits I have on my season past I heard that was over a hundred they started telling me when I go through tolls really. Yeah, it's that high So then that brings us into this other topic and this picture was provided by emotional roller coasters and CP underscore Ki Fanboy on Instagram both some are on Instagram. Thank you for letting me use it But it basically confirms that a B&M is coming in 2020 This is great news for those giga fans that really want to gig at the park because this does in my opinion again This is just speculation. Let me put that here right now giant speculation stamp That this confirms one of two coasters coming to Kings Island I think that they're either gonna go with a wing coaster or a giga coaster and to be honest It seems like the giga coaster is in cedar fairs kind of like Mathematical equation to success at their top four parks. So I Definitely think that Kings Island with these long rumors Like going on forever is going to finally get their giga B&M coaster and who knows maybe it'll be the best giga coaster in the world the longest tallest fastest giga coaster Why do you guys think about that? B&M makes anti-cars now Retrack yeah But we already think about this whole giga versus wing coaster. I mean this the wing coaster rumors go back a long time, too Well, also there they they've gone to Kings Dominion as well for the wing coaster rumors as well so I mean, you know if this are these like official this will happen or Bryce Okay, Bryce, it won't be taller faster longer than a fury Well, the paperwork is for B&M. So there's a B&M coming. We just don't know which one it is. Yeah. Yeah, okay Well, I mean they've been rumored to get a giga for quite a while I think it's I wouldn't say it's their time necessarily because they're one of their like They just got a coaster. I mean But I feel like this could be a huge huge addition to their lineup and I think that it could be such an amazing coaster for the park, but yeah, longest It's got beat steel dragon 6,000 feet, you know Can they afford that with all the investments they're getting? Of course with the antique cars. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, they're so expensive. Oh my gosh Yeah, to be honest, let's let's dive a little more into this and no dive is not insinuating a dive coaster coming to Kings Island So A lot of people are suggesting Kings Island's been very spoiled But we were talking about this the other day and we actually learned and this was a shock to us too Canada's Wonderland's actually been the most spoiled park out of all the Cedar Fair Park since purchase Since Cedar Fair purchased the permanent parks. We've gotten the most flat rides. We're up there with the most coasters And if you think about it, Kings Island added a very cheap investment mystic timbers It's not a very expensive and then you have the antique cars So it's almost like they've been saving a little bit for this bigger coaster to me Upon thinking further about it. It's actually not that crazy to see them get their fourth coaster I mean wonderland is getting their fourth coaster in 2019 So it's not that crazy. Yeah, I mean Wonderland was really lacking in coasters. So that obviously explains why we've been spoiled. We really needed to be Kings Island obviously has a great lineup already, but they won't have had anything since Banshee and 2020 will be six years First time Yeah, it's mill for mystic timbers. Yeah 15 million that's not that bad considering some sort of Banshee was 24 mil Does anyone else have anything else to add to the whole Giga rumor? Yeah, um, I saw a rumor I think on Instagram somewhere about an outpost five themed Giga And I feel like that that could be a possibility. I think I'd lean towards Giga overwing Also looking at that paperwork a little closer I see Baynum painting on there and that that's also a roller coaster company So that confirms more of that B&M didn't confirm it already But I think 2020 is definitely gonna be a big year regardless of what they get and it'll be good for them to get a solid new steel edition Mm-hmm Alright, so we'll go move into Canada's Wonderland so Wonderland announced quite a bit and We had the opportunity to do some interviews with upper management at the park on the day of the announcement and we learned a lot So one we know that not everything is finished being announced for 2019 And when I say that I mean frontier Canada. So all the Rides are announced. We're not getting another ride But the restaurants shops any buildings theming even the station and the renderings are not correct we learned that the station area and the Entrance Plaza for this ride are gonna be very grand like it's gonna be Massive it's gonna look gorgeous apparently it's gonna be the best photo op in the park something like that. So I'm expecting big We also learned that this is this they won't give a price They refused to give a price to the coaster, but what they were saying is This coaster was way more expensive than Leviathan But let's winterfest on top of that is pretty big and For anyone that knows me. I wasn't actually expecting winterfest to be a big hit sometimes winter gets way too cold here and I also find Toronto's just such a big destination for any winter event that I didn't see I didn't think people would want to come to winterfest But I it turns out I'm wrong Based off of the announcement it seems like everyone and their children and aunts uncles and all that tagged each other on Facebook for this event And it looks like it's gonna be a big success. What do you guys think about winterfest? It was definitely such a humongous hit here at CGA It was the first park to get the new style where fest of course there was one back in 2005 for Kings Island but basically they just rebranded winterfest and Started at CGA and it was such a huge Success that they started to grow it into the other parks and now here we are With these new ones Now I forget is it the 2018 season or 2019 season 2019. Okay, that's right Yeah, but just by the visuals from this it looks absolutely stunning. Yeah and I know with the other like With the other parks it looks stunning as well And I mean this is like the only part of the concepts that we've seen for this type of winterfest I Wonder if we're gonna be seeing you guys are probably gonna be seeing shows and similar areas to the other winterfest But I hope that they start to actually, you know You know make some new areas improve the areas a bit and and and eventually like Make it a full park for a winterfest And Just expand it which is what CGA is most likely going to be doing Yeah, my prediction is it's going to be the biggest winterfest in the family chain because it's next to one of the world's largest cities And just because we have we're like the most attended seasonal theme parks So I do predict this is going to be the biggest one We were told they weren't going to open any rides and it seems like they're even changing their mind on that and some rides will be open Which is crazy What about you Sally? Um, this is an awesome announcement. I mean, I really think the cold would be such a problem Um, I know I know it's not cedar fairer But six flags in England ran a minor racer in 11 degrees this past year At holiday in the park. So the six flags can do it cedar fairer can probably do it too. Um, I'm pretty excited to see what rides are going to be open Um, especially if I know cedar fairer doesn't like to open BNM hypers during winterfest Especially seen with diamond back not being open. But if they do decide to open behemoth, that'd be amazing Um, I know riding riding nitro for me and on December 28th of this past year is one of the coolest coaster experience I've ever had both literally like a cold Awesome in general So I I'm really really excited for this. Hopefully I'll be able to get up to Toronto sometime If I do go during the winter, I'll definitely go to winterfest like hands down Yeah at Canadian bacon. Thanks for letting us know but we actually have a team they're filming right now Which proves we are literally all over the park But yeah, there's a team of two or three people filming the track arriving now. It's a big shipment coming in Um, but what about you Chris? Yeah, go figure that we're finally getting winterfest and it's in Canada place where winter is, you know, normal But I'm really looking forward to it. So I usually go to the distillery district for their winter carnival thing They have there. It's a lot of fun. It can get really cold But it seems like more and more weather is cooperating and we're getting warmer weather lasting longer into the winter So it might not be as bad as we think it could be It just really depends on the weather, but I think it's gonna look amazing And I can't wait to see how they pull it off with all the lights and the theming and whatnot for sure Does anyone else have anything to add on to winterfest at Wonderland? How normal is your guys's winter? To be honest We have the same weather patterns as Ohio for the most part. Okay Ohio and Michigan are the same weather pattern. So we have most Canadians live right on the border of the lake As close to warmth as possible Yeah, oh What we're gonna say? I feel like they should open up some rides Because some I mean it depends how some of the rides a or coasters can operate in that type of weather But cga since you know, it's in California and on the West Coast we were able to have some rides open and some coasters open and And And it's definitely such a huge hit. I mean Every single time I always see a full queue in some of the coasters that are in some of the Rides and lines that normally don't have a full queue on Or barely have any line at all and there's such a big hay especially you sense, you know It's during the night this the next time you're gonna ride it during the night So I have a feeling what we'll see is we'll do like a day by day basis and see I have a feeling That's what they're gonna do. Yeah, I Been hearing this still reaching out to ride manufacturers to get approval and some are saying no Yeah, it just depends on like the weather that were projected to get Yeah, I mean Kings Island's winterfest lineup for this past year was pretty pathetic not go I I mean they only had one major coaster open and then a bunch of family flats at least this year They're gonna have flight of fear open which is good Hopefully they can eventually get diamond back open. I mean if Six Flags can run their B&M hypers at about the same like Longitude I don't see why Cedar Fair wouldn't be able to but that's that's not my call. Oh my god Okay, so this person commented and I laughed at first and then I thought wait it has So does Canada is one of them ever closed because of snow or severe cold and I was like wow This is definitely an American that doesn't know that Canada is like actually really warm in the spring and summer But then I remembered we had that major snowstorm on opening day and the park actually opened up a weekend later Which isn't normal normally doesn't snow in April But we had that weird like really bad snowstorm at early April for some reason hey I had no school April 2nd this year because the snow so It's it's normal Yeah, all right, let's move into the good stuff Now a lot of you know when they announced this ride They a lot of information was left out and a lot of people had a lot of questions about the coaster So I reached out to the park directly and asked any question that I was getting so I was walking around the park all day On an answer date and people kept asking me. What's the height of the animal men? Why didn't they announce the record inversions on a dive coaster blah blah blah and I have the answers So the first one is hangtime owns the inversion record Cedar Fair considers hangtime a dive coaster Thus it holds the inversion record The height is 223 feet so it is a clone of Val Raven in terms of height the drop is 245 feet into the tunnel and valley the emelman is 188 feet from the base of the tunnel and the renderings don't show frontier Canada The renderings also do not show station and theming the reason is these renderings are made very early on in the production phase and Some things are still not finished renderings for frontier Canada. Thus, they didn't have it ready in time for the Kind of overall picture. We were told that the theming at the announcement board at the front of the park is kind of a hint as to station theming and frontier Canada theming and That's the announcement Video is kind of a hint as to theming as well So if you want to get in like in the kind of an idea of theming go watch the announcement video With the introducing one and then the the signage at the front of the park That'll give you a better idea of like theming, but what do you guys think about ride fax? We'll start with you fluffy I find interesting that they call hangtime a coaster Hangtime a dive coaster Um Yes, it's a coaster. I Think that it's an interesting choice to market it as one Then again, I feel like they could they should do that Therefore it's harder to take that record away wink wink nudge nudge But the height is the same as Valor even but that drop makes it taller than Valor even or I Guess a larger drop lengthier. Oh, it's larger But yeah, I feel I mean we we started to see we saw a little bit of the station in the rendering It wasn't like a full quality thing But I'm talking about like on the on the POV animation We saw like it heading it like we saw it when it was going down the bird into the brake run and all sorts of stuff like that But as of now we have no idea like how theme the station is going to be but once again see your fair bringing back the theming But basically I mean This thing is in all the records from Val Raven and in a good way Yeah, and I'll touch on that after I let the other two speak on the ride fax a little bit on why we're taking the records from Val Raven Sully, what do you think about the ride fax? Yeah, I think they're pretty strong I mean, I knew that they were gonna be strong from the moment that they started construction I mean if you have a tunnel that big, you know, it's gonna be pretty like strong ride numbers wise I mean, it's the longest I've to which is great Have they said most unique yet? They have that was their teaser. Yeah. Yeah, okay, so that'll I mean the record. I mean that too, which definitely is So I mean numbers wise it's very very strong And what about you Chris? Well, I mean we were on the I was on the gig a bandwagon for a long time up until just a few days before basically And I'm not disappointed at all 445 so it drop at 90 degrees going into a tunnel through vortex is gonna be amazing So really it doesn't matter whether it was 300 or 245. It's gonna be awesome either way I'm really looking forward to seeing more renderings Frontier Canada and the station and how it all works into the new area The inversion record, I mean four is awesome five would have been better, but four is fine. Yeah Um, so what I just I what did I just oh Val Raven? Why did we take the records from Val Raven? Okay, so if you saw my interview video with Dave Phillips, we kind of asked the question and very vaguely got an answer that kind of Pushed you in the right direction, but for many of you who were here when Skyrim Skyrider was removed They kind of hinted and construction markers and glan clearing kind of started and then out of nowhere if you remember it disappeared Then came an announcement for an attraction at cedar point and it was Val Raven You can tell Val Raven was a very quick build coaster too. It looks like it was Kind of like designed last minute. It's a great coaster. I'm not it's like actually one of my favorite coasters at cedar point I'm not hating on Val Raven But you could tell like it was very simple for cedar point. It was very easy to design and build I bet you And it's because the long there's a rumor and this is speculation. We don't have any guarantee but Kenner was one of them was supposed to get the record world record coaster in 2016 and what I have a feeling happened was We noticed that attendance started to kind of Not go up the way it was going for the last couple years One of them had the highest creasing attendance in the park or start the chain And then I know where it started to go from like the four five six And three percent increases to like two and then now it's at one So my guess is you know, they went back to the drawing board and they're like wonderland needs something bigger They need something with inversions and we wanted to be a diet coaster because you know they can market that With no problem whatsoever and it's going to Increase attendance galore. I mean, we're even hearing attendance and gold past sales are through the roof right now at wonderland We're hearing this is a huge success already passes are like selling like hot cakes Fast lane is sold out two days in a row now And the park is like reaching capacity for the past two days So it's working. They haven't even built the coaster and the advertisements on the news has brought more people in But yeah, that's my prediction is you know, the reason we took so many records from valour even is we were supposed to be the park with the record dive coaster Did I cut out there for a second? Yeah, my team keeps trying to call me I don't know what's going on at the park, but that's the third call. I've gotten up. Um So Basically, yeah, we were from my guess we were supposed to get the record dive coaster And then they went back to the drawing board to design something better to be our number one coaster because every top four park has that Would you guys disagree or agree? That was a total run-on sentence there That makes sense. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah, awesome. Um so then So, uh, Up into announcement. We have been the best, um coverage for the construction on the 2019 project and we will continue it The drone is going up this week. I know I promised last week, but I was I just wanted to wait for more Signs of vertical before the drone started capturing the vertical construction a we're Working on a documentary Of the coaster. So that's why we'll be using the drone a lot And we actually have some people on the construction team Itself that reached out to us that want to help us out and provide us with some awesome content on the construction with interviews Um, even a meet-up a possibly, uh, and some awesome footage and video of the construction project itself And I don't want to sound cocky, but I don't know if that's ever been done before I don't know if a construction team has ever been like, hey, we want to help you out Uh, they they like the videos they watch the videos and yeah, now they're going to help us out So that's super awesome for our channel and super awesome for you guys Uh, so I hope to continue to be the best coverage for the 2019 construction project. Um, yeah, I don't know if there's Anything else much to talk about. Uh, do you guys want to add on anything else about the coaster at all? I can't wait for Becky Georgia Yeah, uh The drone is like desperately needed again. It's been a long time since I've flown it and it would be awesome to record it from above again Stop Can't wait So much for the idea of getting a giga giga dive. Well, I mean, we were we were close What we were like 56 feet off or something like that 54 Not that bad. Yeah, not bad I mean, we thought it was going to be too we thought the dive drop itself is going to be three out of feet But um, yeah, we weren't we weren't totally off the only reason it sounds like we were totally off is because the word giga I mean if this was anyone else being that close in height prediction of a coaster, you don't know anything about that's pretty That's pretty close. Yeah Were you about to swear there? Uh, I was about to say yeah, no, I wasn't about to swear. I was about to say A children's swear word, I guess I was about to say godly or something I just said it To giga for life Yeah, I mean when I initially heard their announcement for you kind of striker I was a little bit off put I didn't realize Well, like the first half of the ride looks amazing And of course everybody talks about the second half and how it's kind of weak after that But if we're just I mean the first half of the ride is what people are going to go on it for And I think it looks absolutely incredible like both emerald men's look great People have been complaining about the vertical loop and I think it's going to be awesome like the hang time on it is going to be fantastic um And I I think it's going to be just a great addition overall and I don't really understand the hate for it Yeah, that's that's my TED talk Well, I can tell you I can I can tell you why uh people don't really like it, but I'll tell you after the stream ah Come in our discord if you want to hear that guys Well, no, you say it here for everyone to hear and I'm interested in Let me get my tea ready though So the only reason like people don't like it is because we've said this many times It's because they're not getting this at their home park true It's that's the real reason like if oh if you if you like uh val raven a ton Then if you're if your home park is is to your point You're just going to like blame everything on this coaster and blame everything on you constrictor and cw and just like tear it up But that's the real reason is because you don't have this coaster at your home park Yeah, I even touched on something here for a second. Sorry Snake pass just said would you even consider it half though? Most of the ride is before the break run I want to touch on that because honestly, I'm gonna I'm gonna get aggressive here for a second. Okay Don't worry. I swear I know where you're going with this and I know a lot of really educated youtubers in the coaster industry Agree with me here and I'm not going to name any names because I don't want anyone to go down with me here But I am sick of some of these youtubers coming out and saying this ride is already Garbage and that it's not that great blah blah blah honestly Do some research first of all half of the ride does not occur a court Blah blah blah occur after the mid-course break run It's literally the last like 10 seconds of the ride It's like a fourth. Yeah. Yeah, it's literally a fourth. So and second of all, you don't know anything about wonderland The reason that this ride is doing the layout it is doing is because it's trying to use up as little space as possible and maximizing on space That isn't utilized fully without using up a lot of space for future expansion wonderland is running out of room We're not out of room, but we're getting there So they have to be very conscious in terms of development And then on top of it There's a whole bunch of theming coming with this coaster that isn't announced yet So as I like to say before you comment on a a new coaster. Yes, I get it It's not an intimate that does 10 000 loops is launched up like a 400 foot lift hill. Like I get it. It's not that It's not that I get it. Okay. It's not the giga dive that we were speculating Whatever it is a fantastic coaster and it's going to a park with one of the worst coaster lineups in the world It has a lot of coasters, but it has definitely one of the worst coaster lineups in the world So before you go out there and literally Get everyone like hating on this coaster already just do a little research. It's canada's wonderland. It's not cedar point I mean cedar point got val raven and if you think val raven is better than this coaster you're daydreaming I love cedar point cedar point is a 10 times better park than canada's wonderland Way better park than canada's wonderland But val raven is not a better coaster than a coaster that dives underwater through a turnaround of another coaster The by the way the tunnel was designed to look like it almost like a postal stamp when you're diving like they designed it So it looks like you're not gonna fit For anyone that has seen it in person you can vouch that this literally does look like the case So for it's just that's the end of my rant, but I could go on for hours. That's the end of my rant. Someone's taught me here Yeah, I I know I know exactly what you're talking about. Don't worry. Yeah the chat was uh, they were naming some people It's not just one person though. I have it's been others. There has been others Yeah, I'm not I'm not attacking anyone like trust me. I love all youtube channels and I'm not just saying that Yeah, and there there are gonna be times in my future as a youtuber as well But I'm gonna say something that I I'm gonna screw up on in fact giga dive This isn't attacking anyone either all I'm asking is just do your research before commenting on a park I've screwed up in the past too. What did I call carol liners that is that's what I called them, right? Yeah Yeah, I didn't do my carolin. I didn't do my research and I made a dumb comment But instead of like, you know, just just don't up to it. Just do your research All right, I mean it's gonna be it's it's it's really silly to To not like this. I mean first of all no one's written it yet. So let's wait to write it Like, you know, there's also that part, right? Yeah Yeah, does anyone else have anything to add on to my like epic rant there? I think you have a very valid point Definitely It's just insulting because we've been waiting so long for a record breaker at wonderland We've been like mistreated by paramounts so hard Yeah, reminder 1981 was the last time we had a custom looping coaster. Yeah, this was our time to shine I yeah, I was just thinking to myself. How many parks have an slc and a volare? Like not a lot So yeah, it is really your time to shine. Yeah Um, I guess what we're waiting for Do any of you in the comments section have any questions to ask any of us we have some new fate? Well, chris is known. He's an admin. He's on here here and there, but he's not on too often So if any of you have any questions for him Get to know him better solid to yeah me Let me go on and see the comments So If this high if this ride has vestor strength it will suck Well, see that's it. See that's another thing that people don't get a lot of a lot of B&M dives or just a lot of b&m's in general are getting uh vestor strengths You just because of the restraints you can't instantly hate it for that Once again, you haven't right it's written it. So Still Wolf wolf. I am definitely not replacing eastern. We're just sometimes like to change things up and sometimes people can't make it to the Street eastern could not make it tonight. He's on vacation. Yeah, and he's never he's not replaceable. Yeah well until Nevermind Fluffy you're fired You can't speak of eastern like that Um, but yeah any questions. Let me read. I haven't actually been reading also not everyone hates the best Okay, so I'm really tall. I'm really tall and I'm really big. I'm working on it right now I'm actually on a diet not to self-advertise here But um vestor strengths kill me But I still love gatekeeper. I still love valray then they don't ruin the right experience for me But I'm six foot three Right, so They definitely hurt a lot like they dig into my collarbone like there's no tomorrow But I still like if a ride has awesome inversions and an awesome layout and a lot of I love gatekeeper And a lot of people hate it But yeah, it doesn't ruin the ride experience for me Right dinner. Are we gonna talk about apocalypse? Did I not add it? No, you didn't I had a picture ready for it too You were asking about earlier. Oh my god. Yeah, I got a picture for it. Yeah Why don't we touch on apocalypse? So that was probably a speculation bit Yeah, let's go up to this picture then I I was about to say wait, weren't we supposed to cover something else? Yeah with apocalypse is uh removal There's like several rumors going around and we're not going to know until august 30th, but I mean chance morgan track This is like the biggest Controversial topic of this year. I think chance morgan track being spotted before a ride Announcement or construction or land clearing at a park So you have chance morgan track on a flatbed heading somewhere. No one knows what's going I swear this is going to be like the reality tv show of like the season Yeah, no one has anyone even seen it again since like it's so mysterious. Yeah, it is not been spotted Yeah, so my guess is a six flags park Yeah, yeah, that'll be my guess too. See whoever uh, whoever took a picture right should have just followed it I thought about that so I just followed it to this destination. We could have known exactly where it is Let's talk if it was if it was brendan. He would have been all over that. I would have been all over. Yeah Um, I I'm gonna go with the floorless bandwagon. Um, I I don't I don't know why I just feel like When was the last time the six likes even worked with chance? I have a theory about the chance track, but I'll get to that in a minute What was the last time the six likes worked with chance? It's been a while but I Here's my weird theory and hear me out. This is like probably not gonna happen, but Uh, uh, was it two or three years ago? I'm gonna say three years ago Playland park in rye new york was rumored to get um a chance Uh, the coaster similar to lightning run. Um, it was only Uh plans set out by standard amusements that were going to buy the park from the county That those plans fell through but here we are three years later And they actually just bought the park and they're going to begin adding rides next year What if those plans resurface and that chance track is going to playland? It's probably not happening, but I thought I just float that Oh Well, you mean playland the one that's getting that epic expansion, right? No, wrong playland. Uh, yeah, this is this is the playland. That's 15 minutes from my house. Uh Yeah, the they have a volaire and a bunch of other like ugly zampirlas And yeah, that's basically it Yeah, I think I think you're right about the floorless part. I don't think I I mean if they do end up removing it, I don't think they'll nest it They'll definitely probably keep it around somewhere or possibly who knows move it around Um, I don't think that you know I don't think they're going to scrap their very first, uh, BNM ever Just like they did. I mean even though it was even though it wasn't their first just like they did with dragon's challenge Yeah, um, but I think either it's gonna be a floorless or Or they're gonna just move this, uh, apocalypse somewhere else Uh to either a new park or put it in like a national roller coaster museum or something like that. I think there's one Yeah, uh Keep that their plan or just something and then Something will happen to that area at Six Flags America Or Or who knows? I mean Definitely Six Flags America is going to be a park to keep an eye on we've seen the grim reaper for quite a couple Quite a couple years actually, I think we started seeing it in 2016 or 2017. Yeah, it was last year Yeah, 2017 and then uh at roar and everyone thought it was going to be like RFC roar. Yeah And then that didn't happen. So who knows I have another theory to float I was just I was thinking about uh last week. So last week I went to great escape for the first time Um only there for a couple hours But I did get to walk around a little bit and for those of you who are familiar with the park Alpine bobsled their intimate swiss bob has been sitting svno for probably the last few months Um, no workers on it. No signs of like maintenance or anything If you combine the plot Um of Alpine bobsled and the upcharge go-karts right next to it you have a really really big plot of land What if Six Flags relocates apocalypse to great escape? Silence, I mean, I don't think it's possible. But how is it running? Does anyone know how it's running? I mean, it's it's a I've heard mixed reviews, but great escape is like the hand me down of Six Flags and they've Had haven't gotten a coaster since their kitty coaster in 2005. So they're kind of Well, I mean technically Six Flags america is a hand me down. So is okay fine on a hand me down Great escape is a hand me down from hand me down. Yeah, like almost every ride there is relocated every coaster. I should say So according to wolf wolf, uh, it's okay perfect condition and smooth ish So, I mean Is there a lifetime on the ride? Was that was that why they're getting rid of it? Do they have to take it down? Is there something like they just don't want to risk it becoming a safety issue and they just Apocalypse They're all going now Yeah, I I I mean I I'm just really curious to see this chance track ends up And the fact that we're just just think about this we're going to get another chance tracker Or just chance coaster on the east coast. That's awesome Like lightning run looks absolutely fantastic Oh, yeah So that's that's good news for cardless Alrighty, um I think that's pretty much it. Does anyone else have any other last minute questions because we're going to wrap this up Any second now? Oh, you um, you mentioned before I'm not sure if you mentioned it in any of the videos But during the interview you found out that all of the teasers at the park at cedar point We're going to make more sense once we know what's happening with carowinds. Oh, yes So um So maybe that's gonna maybe some of the questions that we have now are going to be answered. Hopefully Oh, yeah So basically what we are told is the teasers are Kind of both they're definitely meant to throw you off But the storyline is meant to be taken seriously and we'll know more about the storyline once carowinds makes their announcement on august 30th Now this guy he's the vp of carers one and he was talking about canada's wonderland as he said he can't comment on other parks But usually when you're talking about one park and the storylines all seem to be connected You can kind of assume that this kind of relates to all those other parks as well um Yeah, I think that that's pretty much it I'm gonna have a howling haunts video at soon. The information was all released all the information Regarding, you know, the new bar and all that the new haunt mazes This is a stream, it's great. You can rewatch it. It's been fantastic. It's one also coming in 2018 It's not it was supposed to but it got delayed Again, that is also speculation Don't come knocking down my door wonderland. Give great escape new coaster. Yeah. Yes, please. Yeah And don't worry. There is going to be another stream tomorrow night. Yes. Yep. We will have a stream tomorrow at 8 30 p.m To make up for tonight Again, there was just so much going on in terms of needing to film something and all that Um, yeah, I guess that I guess that we're going to wrap this up Um, all right, uh, usually all of our speculation ones are going to occur tomorrow today was reacting to 2019 announcements so far Um, awesome. I guess thanks for watching guys. Have a good one. Bye. See you guys