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Daniel bonus dump truck hello visionaries hello w scottis one thank you visionaries I know I think that's our fandom name I think it is I'm so excited I love it yeah I love it and then I don't understand if I can read is this a sentence for the emojis or is it just fun like talking save talk wait what is that is it a banana I can't see oh no it's like a goat with I'm talking about the the Dan Bono dump truck oh oh oh yeah no is that supposed to spell out a sentence or is it just fun emojis I think yeah I think it's just like a fun dump emoji there's a Tom Merritt emoji in there um and some other I don't know looks like a bug hard to say because you know how people spell out sentences with emojis and I'm like oh god I don't know if I'm gonna know these this I'm like wait see I'm so I'm an emoji person who like I I mean sometimes they're relevant but I often just like will send somebody like emojis because they're funny and don't make sense right right but yeah there are times where someone's like this is a story where I'm like okay let me look at it all right figure it out I know right okay guys we're gonna get ready to go live here we go in three two well hello world hi hi Eileen wow are we celebrating a birthday of some kind I am celebrating our fourth episode so excited and if those of you on video can see I'm wearing a bunch of rings which you could be a spoiler about our episode today well don't well I mean those are beautiful rings first of all I love all things gold so I'm with you on that um hi everybody welcome to apple vision show a show that is all things apple the pro ios ecosystem of apple in general lifestyle people around it and everything in between if there is anything in between um so yeah each week we want to break down how apple and the ecosystem affects our lives for for good and bad what we what we like tips and tricks that we might have tips and tricks that you might have that you share with us and what we want to see from apple going forward so I'm Sarah Lane and I'm Eileen Rivera we're very excited to come back and switch it up because it's been all vision pro vision pro right it it has to the point where Eileen and I are like okay we know that the show is called apple vision show and we're very clever okay pat ourselves on the back here but it's not just about the vision pro it's definitely about apple in general because the vision pro for us didn't exist for anybody didn't exist um very recently uh but a lot of other apple things have and will in the future so that's what the show is all about and we hope it's a fun uh good hang for all y'all and we're happy to have you with us you know a lot of times I think we're gonna predict the future too right Sarah I feel like I would you know we're gonna manifest and ask for things from apple if we think like hey look at this company doing this thing what if apple entered the chat like we talked about last week if they do generally then it becomes a thing I hate to say it because it said that's when we sound like fangirling because you know when apple joins that's when it's real it's like well calm down everybody if it's been real whatever it is the thing that we're talking about potentially it's just someone got to the market first and then apple said oh you know what we'll wait and we'll kind of develop our own thing yeah like I don't know well uh on that note on that note uh somebody has come to the market first um and that is well it was ura uh first but now it's samsung with the galaxy ring so this is a wearable uh device that you wear on it on a finger like a ring because it is a ring and the idea is health and wellness you know tracking sleep tracking uh you know heart rate uh steps all that good stuff and this is an interesting category because uh first of all people who have that were uh love it um I have seen those around for years I've never I've never had one so I really can't speak on uh it personally at all but I wear my apple watch at night um which is something that a lot of people for all sorts of smart watches are like no not going to do that um the ring is a little bit of a you know an easier sell I think it's like yeah you don't have to wear a whole watch on your wrist kind of thing you know it's just like a ring that you don't take off if you want to do sleep tracking um sleep tracking just one of the the uh things that samsung uh galaxy ring wants to do it's gonna connect to galaxy phones uh to start android phones coming soon ios tbd maybe never now you might say well why are we talking about a non apple product well it's because there is a rumor and again rumor mills with apple I mean there is no bigger rumor mill is that apple may be working on a smart uh ring of its own I mean what do you think about that I kind of believe it um I also think because of the aura being so popular I mean as I understand the NBA stars are wearing them right now like why not samsung and apple get into the game right and they're you're a lot cheaper than a watch right at least the aura is 299 349 and it gives I guess it depends too on your use case for the watch versus something like this which if it's going to track the health things that personally like I do you know um uh I like to track like the minutes the the heartbeat the um I try everything everything track it all yeah I'm ready I want to track like my blood pressure and all that I don't want to get the big apparatus and do anyway if they could do all of those things in one ring to rule them all Sarah then I'm in I think I like it and and I think I don't have anything against wearing a watch to bed it's just more about right now I have like a forget the battery life on my watch but I do have it in my head that sometimes like oh but then the battery's drained and and when I wake up in the morning and then I need to charge it before um going out you know to the world and what if I forget my watch because I left it on the stand because I was charging it because I was worried instead of waking up and then grabbing the watch and then going on my day and doing all the things um there's you know there's just I mean these are just a little minor inconveniences little steps but it's a thing it's a lifestyle kind of thing and and you know half more than half the population doesn't have a problem with that uses the watch or a watch or some kind of device to uh track their sleep but I would probably use this more I don't know what the like battery life situation how many how many times you'd have to charge can you just actually leave the ring on top of your phone and it charges really quickly like while you're working I don't know how it really works but it just seems very convenient and they're pretty I mean the aura is really pretty and this picture Samsung ring oh that looks nice I love it I'll wear that I mean they'll have different colors I'm assuming um it sounds to me from what I read the people at mobile world congress it's pretty light that those that were able to try it too so yeah and yeah I think it comes in what three to four colors and is uh it will fit you know because everybody's fingers are of different sizes like something between like five and 13 you know if you've ever had a ring fitted on your finger before um that matters um with a battery that I think I think if I understand correctly the bigger the you know the bigger the uh the the finger the more battery can can go into there okay but but the company didn't didn't say specifically uh battery lifetime but the aura ring I think is like a week you know on a on a on a good week that's awesome yeah full charge because you kind of just set it and forget it which is which is to your point about the Apple watch I think that's I think it's a very it's a very personal decision how we all charge our devices you know yeah you know like for me um and my mom has an Apple watch too and you know she had said to me recently she's like I just don't know how you can sleep with that on and I'm like oh uh you just get used to it I don't know I I don't even think about it I just do and it's not even that like in the morning I'm like you know going through all of my data of sleep like all that crazy I just have it you know I have it if I get to it but what I do um you know to to to your question is like I get up I charge my watch because I know I'm gonna be sitting at the computer for about an hour you know drinking my morning coffee looking at news you know before I even go outside or whatever it charges and then I've got it for the rest of the day maybe I charge it again you know in the afternoon or you know evening if I'm kind of going to be sedentary for a minute um but otherwise it works out really well if I don't wear it at night that's where I feel crazy I wake up really like I don't know what I've done the watch with me it's become part of your life and that's yeah yeah yeah yeah I don't have a problem with having it on I just have that mental check of forgetting things like I forget things sometimes where now I'm so hypersensitive I double check did I unplug the curling iron before it drives Tom's crazy right I'm like I we're like walking out the door I'm like wait I know I did this but let me just check he's like okay all right he's like you know you did it but you're like I don't check let me check because there are times when I didn't and not many not many and that's a not really a fair apples to apple comparison to the watch but I had to have done it where I like run out the door and I hadn't been wearing my watch I'm like oh sad and I know I would do that just because I'm a little careless with the watch not necessarily my phone my phone I'm like oh my god that needs to be with me everywhere but with the watch I'll just walk out and if I'm halfway driving you know somewhere it's all of a sudden like well that's too bad versus panic right and so I just know I'm not as careful with it and so I want to know that I would be smart enough to remind myself to take the watch off the charger after you know getting ready for the day but I don't think I'm that smart Sarah I just I'm like you know I gotta go I'm like I'm not a morning person it's just that we're all we're all very busy there are also I mean the to think about a watch versus a ring for something like health data right you know that's what we're doing we're we're we're you know counting steps we're you know listening to to to heart rate that's what we're doing you know a watch is a bigger it's I mean it's a computer that's what it is the the the ring you know and we're talking about the hypothetical ring that does not exist at least you know as far as Apple is concerned but that is something that you know it's yeah you're not getting notifications you're not taking phone calls you're literally wearing it as a piece of jewelry that gives you data now the watch is more robust it does more that's great but I've also been in situations where for example I remember being at a wedding about a year ago I was wearing my Apple watch and you know I was also wearing like a nice dress because it was sort of a fancy wedding you know and someone sort of was like oh Sarah couldn't take off her Apple watch for the wedding and I was like I want my steps I'm gonna be dancing later yes like but like I realized like it's not totally right for every situation you know like fashion is you know in the eye of the beholder but I was like no I'm not taking this thing off if I had it had a ring that probably would have been a better situation and and in some scenarios some days it's like all I really care about is counting steps so you know that would be enough I mean do you depend on your watch for anything else like like do you like it if you are driving and you feel and you're using Apple Maps and you feel the pulse do you like that is that important to you okay I do but I also have car play so it's like I mean you don't need it I don't it without a watch my experience like I'm gonna get to my destination I'm gonna be fine but I do like the tap tap tap you know where I'm like yeah I know I'm about to turn left but thank you for the reminder or the note how about notifications sometimes the notifications I have to then go in and turn things off or whatever but yeah I go back and forth whether or not I need it notifications for the watch yeah yeah because with the ring you wouldn't have to deal with that it's really just the health tracker it seems at this point and well I mean if you've got a you know again with you know the Samsung ring it's a whole different situation but if the Apple ring let's just call it that you know again doesn't exist just a rumor but if it did it would tie into the watch the phone the whatever you have on you I would think so yeah all that data would be stored somewhere else that you can look at later or at your leisure I guess with the Apple watch I feel like it is very much a yeah like like hi notification things happening here and sometimes I look at it and I'm like okay in fact it's doing it right now stop Siri oh my god but I mean I love this thing I do I really really do at the same time I think I think I could I could get by with something that was a little bit more bare bones and a little bit more of a jewelry thing than you know like a big old watch and that would that would be interesting who would so I found an article by the way of a supposed patent that Apple had submitted with you know like these are just you know applications they're not necessarily true but if it is sort of the design of the ring that there could be like I have a ring here that I'm wearing that has kind of looks like one of the patented descriptions here that has a wider face so that there's a little like a superbowl ring Eileen anything right well you know it may not be the Superbowl but it's pretty close but like you could tap it like there's something there that you could potentially tap or have some haptic feedback or some kind of touch yeah I don't know I mean it's interesting like so you've got the Samsung ring itself it's just a ring but then there's designs that you know maybe Apple might be pushing the envelope to make it a little bit though there's a little bit more options potentially and again this is just a application it may not even happen but these are you know cool concepts I think and something that might be different and there could be all kinds of applications here with the with the with the wider touch screen if there is a screen or just a touch pad that could connect to your phone or to your iPad or something I don't know I just I just thought it was interesting it's like okay let's this design what is this you know I think anything that you're wearing on your person um be it a watch a ring uh glasses uh air pods anything that's like attached to your body says something about you in a fashion sense like whether you're whether you care about that or not and and if it works seamlessly and you know as a bonus if you think it looks cool great mm-hmm but I think you know that that's where you know a lot of people are sort of like not for me or yes for me if you got a phone you put it in your pocket you put in your purse you put in your bag it doesn't really matter you know that's that's a computer that is not attached to you I think the attachment um and something that other people see and judge you for for good or bad is I mean that's real that's that's fashion that's everybody does that yeah I don't know I mean I think I am very interested in the ring and to see because I might use it more I'm like do I need all of the bells and whistles that a watch right because you're you're thinking about upgrading to a new watch and it's like if you don't want it then no you know maybe some something that's just a little bit more I don't know just well you have a lot of rings Eileen so I don't know where it would go but you could find a finger um a finger but uh but yeah I think I think for a lot of folks having options is better for a company like Apple having too many options takes away from the potential sales of something else that it would rather sell you know and Apple's not the only company to go through this obviously it's like no if Apple wants to sell more Apple watches is a ring going to take away sales from the Apple watch which is going to be I don't know probably a more lucrative sale don't know so there's that yeah that's true there's all these business decisions outside of the competitors that are putting it out there right like yeah okay Samsung's out there and we don't I don't think we have all the details yet on when it will be released but uh you know it's it's now on display so it's coming yeah it's a real thing and so you know I think whenever anyone actually buys one we should invite someone on the show and we should talk about it because I think wearables are huge right wear wearables and um it's just another facet of life that I feel like everybody whether it be your headset or or Eileen leaving oh dear where where the art thou Eileen Rivera somebody just right on oh there you are earlier by the way did you know that I pieced out earlier no I crashed this is the second crash really I was chatting away I don't even know well because I don't look at the video all that often because I'm kind of you know looking at articles or whatever well welcome back thank you I'm like I don't know what's going on today but I'm like now I'm scared that this is all gonna like but but everybody has been following along right like I'm gonna yeah yeah this is a point in the edit for the video or the audio later but uh it's the rings you know what I took the rings off and I came back there we go oh you shouldn't have done that Eileen you shouldn't have taken the rings off okay there's anything I mean honestly between the first time that I I gotta tell you this but between the first time I fell fell off the video and you didn't know and the second time which then you noticed I was literally sweating like am I gonna fall out again and I did oh I'm sorry I hate that well I hope sometimes the internet just isn't our friend it's one of those things where I'm like I really hope Sarah doesn't think I'm not listening I'm just kind of worried this is all gonna fall apart right now no I assumed you were listening intently I mean I was I was like whoa I'll just keep going she's loving this there was there was a moment where where you said something and I did go wait a minute I hope she wasn't asking me a question because there was something here and the it started to buffer you started to buffer uh sorry everybody hello live chat you know that's that's the joy of life that's the joy of life we uh we all we're all we all we all know it and for everybody who's with us live you get to experience it along with us you do join join us again won't you so I put the rings back on for those of you uh with us here visually and live and so I don't I don't know if if this falls apart again uh yeah this is going to be very interesting well you know who is ruling me right now let's blame it on the rain it's not really raining here in LA but it's kind of weird it's weird weather today so let's you know I don't know father time wherever you are let's just get us through the show shall we just wanted to talk about rings and whether or not people are going to wear them we all wear rings anyway do you guys want to buy does it I would love to know from the chat room who's there like does anybody want to get a ring or are they just like yeah watch watch only or ring because am I team ring or team watch or do you not even care rings have spirit powers says but apparently it's taken me off the air if I take them off so I mean all kidding aside I probably would not be in the market for one just because I'm happy with the watch and I don't have a problem wearing it I mean I sometimes even like forget I'm wearing it and get in the shower and I'm like oh sorry little Apple watch well I guess you just got showered it just like it's it's like part of my body at this point yeah I really I I don't ever not wear it unless I'm charging it when I'm home and not doing anything you know but uh so so I probably wouldn't have both yeah but at the same time product that doesn't exist that might exist in the future could change my mind you know maybe maybe there are those times you know where Sarah goes to a wedding and is like you know what Apple watch doesn't really work but the ring is very nice well I'm sure I know how many weddings there would be that you know I would have that conversation with myself but you know that's that's one you know example well and knowing these devices they're going to talk to each other right there's going to be some yeah you know um feature that the ring talking to the watch will give you enhanced data or you know will give you more opportunities to I don't know to connect to something else do you know what I'm saying like I feel like there will be a reason why to get both I think because you know you got to sell it right um but certainly there's the market of oh I don't need the watch I'll take the ring oh dear oh dear now I see it poor Eileen oh well uh blame it on the rings yeah yeah oh my goodness now look at us um now you've got two two of you two is better than one can I get can I get rid of us this is gonna be so much fun to edit uh later today you're gonna love it you're gonna love it this video is off the rails and it is uh the video is off the rails I'm not gonna have to edit the video because yeah you guys it's just gonna live forever on YouTube and you will see this is just if you're here with us right now you can you know tell your grandkids about apple vision show episode four audio people will never know people are never no it's gonna be so clean blissfully unaware we're just trying to talk about rings we really were but um okay so so we've talked about rings there are other rumors about other apple products that I wanted to mention briefly yes and Eileen one of these came to me in a dream recently oh really I know I know that sounds crazy but um dream recently as in last night so last night I was I had a dream and you know dreams are weird you know they don't make sense so this is all crazy but I was at a like convention like in a building um with somebody else who was walking next to me let's say it was you I mean I don't know who it was in the dream yeah you know let's say it was you and uh we were both wearing apple glasses what are those I don't know it was basically the vision pro but they were glasses they weren't actually yeah you know the the the pro in its current form and the person said oh Sarah can you make it look like the ocean out there because we were kind of walking along the edge of a building we're like I don't know it was like a parking lot you know outside and so I did that and it happened and everyone was like oh oh can you can you make it like a different ocean like a different beach like bondy beach in Australia and so I did and it worked and everyone was like oh yeah no this is the right vibe and so this is a crazy dream and I know this sounds a little you know like you know I've been outside too long but I thought you know there's something to this there's something to the the whole idea of wearing glasses and being able to whether you're right next to somebody or not being able to have an experience both enjoy yes that is that is an augmented reality thing you know the vision pro is a step towards that but it's just not everybody's gonna have that and you're not gonna walk around with the you know with the headset on you know out and about all the time this felt like you know this could be kind of cool now I know this is a crazy dream but it it I woke up and I was like that is not a bad idea if we could somehow do some sort of like AR we're in the world but we're also we also have like a it's like putting like a I don't know a different like desktop background you know yeah you know on your computer because you look at it all the time it's like oh how cool to like feel like we were at the beach even though we very much weren't it sounds to me like you're applying environments but in a bigger way right like the environments feature on the apple vision pro where you could just put a different background but this time it would really encompass like your your field your your vision that you're where you're looking all the way around right yeah not just not just in front as the wallpaper desktop does that make sense right yeah a little bit more a little bit more interactive I guess there would have to there would have to be you know of course a certain amount of safety involved where you still need to like know where you're walking this actually if anyone and many of you probably who listened or watched the show are familiar with i justine she had a very funny video that she posted recently I think it was on Instagram maybe on threads or you know same same but um she was wearing the vision pro at an airport and just like okay i'm gonna wear it i'm gonna you know once it's you know we're ready to board i'm gonna just keep wearing it you know and people were like ma'am ma'am please be careful you know watch your step and she's like I can see I can see the world you don't think I can see the world but I can because you know of the pass through that is something that you know with glasses that's a conversation you wouldn't really have to have with anybody if they work appropriately and as long as you're safe enough to actually be able to see the world even if you had like a fake beach you know like in my dream you know behind you or around you that could be so fun like you could have like themed days like today I you know I'm in the desert you know or today I'm at the beach or today I'm in Munich I don't know you could you could have some fun with that okay I don't see the comment anymore but uh I saw someone relating it to like a blind date like what if you do oh you were on a blind date but you guys went somewhere exciting through the glasses instead of just being you know at where you currently are and maybe could enhance that is it a remote blind date or are you I mean next to each other oh Sarah TW please let me know I can't find your your your comment here but yeah remote to blind date or are you guys together like what Sarah mentioned and you are I don't know experiencing this virtually together because then that you know to me like you said like isn't that interesting vision pro dating vision pro dating yeah yeah that would be a commitment kind of fun maybe kind of not fun uh I don't know yet uh but uh I'm willing to try I'll take one for the team on this one everybody wow are you saying that here wow okay I mean why not you know why else are we here you know are there gonna be dating parties with the vision pro and uh somebody set that up and then Sarah will uh take one for the team yeah I mean come on it's fun listen it doesn't you know we don't have to get married we can just you know we can just have a date it'll be fine it'll be good it'll be good stuff but yeah the the the the vision pro and I know we we're kind of talking about other stuff on the show today but the that whole idea of people thinking that you can't see them because it really looks like you can't it looks like you've put you know a helmet on your head yeah um and that whole like no I can see it's okay it's okay I'm not gonna fall the kind of thing it's like I get that I really do the you know the whole sort of like oh you can see the eyes inside you really can't people think you can't see people think that you've essentially put a blindfold on and are doing something else on the inside which you are kind of but you can still see so you can see better than you know any pass-through option I've seen on other VR devices I have a terrible thought um as long as there's as long as there's no one else in need I mean you could use that to expedite your way into the plane you know people who need extra help as long as you don't see anybody like if there's if everyone's healthy and you're sir I am but a poor vision pro wearer and I must board first like if oh man I if you're out west and you have like C 40 or whatever you know but they always ask like anybody who needs help or whatever as long as you're not taking away from someone who really needs who's in need it's like you know I mean as much as I would love to pull that card I don't think it's gonna work but um I know let us know I mean the stream is crapped out on me several times I don't know whether it's the rings or the not you know I mean it's just it's just one it's on Monday it's on Monday you guys it is a Monday yeah yeah if you're listening uh on demand you could be listening on any day of the week but we do record these on Mondays we are live uh we start at 2 30 pacific time um and uh and we stream it live it would be very fun to have y'all here for here for the ride um thanks to everybody who is here with us now but uh yeah you you've got options for the show we uh we will have a video uh cut down later um audio as well uh wherever you get your podcast but uh we do stream live so that is just something to keep in your back pockets yeah if you want to talk to us in real time well if you do that Eileen goes away so cool what in the heck are who is happening over there it is getting slightly it is it is getting slightly stormy outside my window I'm like is it weather related I don't know I mean I think um I think your household is usually pretty weatherproof but it is just one of those things uh I I see a new chrome available I'm using chrome right now and I did not upgrade so perhaps actually and uh you know you know these things happens guys thank you all for your patience yep yep we're we're we're doing it you know we're doing it live doing it live doing it live oh man Sarah sometimes yeah so speaking of doing it live uh apple sports app Eileen what are your thoughts I know you you installed you took a look around what do you think I am still you know it's kind of nice to have everything now that I think about it in one app instead of the nba app or the mlb app but um I kind of need to see more in action I don't I mean I I added a couple teams and um you know it's nice to have the scores handy but I'd like you know with with let's say the mlb app I know this one for sure there's um clips there are um you know I get notified um uh bonus clips or or um reminding me hey you can watch real time or you can listen to you know the radio or the tv broadcast some headlines of big news type stuff yeah um oops sorry about that I thought I almost crashed again and I I haven't really taken a full it's pretty it looks really nice and it's clean and I can see and um I can even see the bedding odds on here I could see you know the um you know who's leading in which conference and so that's not it's a nice handy guide I just I'm not quite sure um how it'll play out for me during specifically the baseball season but um you know why not why not have it all in your hand but I don't know what do what do you think Sarah well I'll be honest I as a sports fan I mean baseball basketball NFL those are you know those are my those are my big sports although I I care um about um soccer I know some people don't like it to uh to be called that but you know that's what it is um and hockey like secondary but still I care I care about sports I really do um I thought that the app was like okay all right well here are my teams NFL seems to be missing probably because you know we're in the off season you know it'll come back at some point um somewhat bare bones um I uh talked about this with a few people who care about sports on a deeper level than I do we're like this is garbage oh what what is Apple doing like why would they why would they have introduced this app that is so half baked you know you don't have you don't have like you know really obvious teams that you can follow on the app there's nothing really to do you know are they gonna get into gambling what is going on I I don't know I I I I can't really uh find it within myself to get like all been out of shape about it because I don't know you have other options like just like yeah another sports app yeah I think that's what it is it's like hard to follow sports it's just like it's nice to have it all in one place yeah and I'm I'm assuming this is gonna evolve too so there's gonna be more bells and whistles as as we move forward and maybe it's just a I don't know I don't think it's just test but like it's it's I it's I it's Sarah like I don't know what it looks like on the Vision Pro but um yeah it's not something I've checked okay I'll have to do that yeah because if it's just scores well okay thanks I mean I don't know I have the MLB app and I'm pretty happy with it and it's pretty robust so and I don't have the NBA app but I'm assuming is the same so um there's no point in me using this app at this point is where I'm going with it's like okay just scores but I have that I also have Google alerts because I follow my favorite teams on Google and so I will get the the scores if I'm not watching the game I'll know by the end of the game like who won and who didn't Eileen it's the rings she's wearing too many rings I'm taking them off oh girl I don't know I don't know I find this amusing but I if it were me I'd be like losing my mind right now so thank you for thinking it's amusing instead of annoying um I'm not annoyed it'll you're you're you're you're gone and back again in 60 seconds I don't like I just refresh and I'm like look I'm back again get everybody oh my god Marchiello Arlo Arcelay this is an epic live stream thank you so much like we will always remember episode four this is yes this is the beauty of life you know humans in their rost form episode four good and you know I have to relive it because I have to edit this for audio I'm like oh oh here we're gonna do it again um this do you know I think I've dropped out like five times on this live stream already I think it's five yeah it's been five five you know like Super Bowl rings so you know good work good work I see what we're doing Eileen okay we get the joke Sarah I'm really not trying to end the show secretly secretly Sarah's thinking gosh she really wants this show to be over we don't have to do that long of a show I know I'm like okay okay gosh I mean I had more to say just a piece I checked out with the sports app like yeah I'm with your friends I didn't really say it up front Sarah but piece of garbage no I'm kidding and like I said it's pretty it's pretty but I don't know yeah yeah yeah it's it's it's probably going to have another iteration that will make it make more sense that's my thinking anyway absolutely you know in the meantime you got other options it's certainly not a like must have download even if you're a sports fan but if you are a sports fan and you like it let us know why you like it more than I don't know a yahoo sports or you know one of the many other options that you have to to track your favorite team um we we had a funny conversation the other day Eileen and I did where Eileen was like oh um apple music does this like fun replay thing you know sort of like um what's the Spotify version Spotify well yeah yeah yeah same idea you know so like let's both do it for January and she's like here's my January and I was like well apple music said you didn't listen to any music I posted this on our socials for anybody I was like there's no way that's true I did did I maybe I didn't you know I guess the truth is even though I you know I I like music I I I subscribe to apple music um it's actually part of my Verizon uh wireless plan but you know I you know I pay for it and essentially um I don't think I listen to any music that would be at least through apple music that would be tracked I've just been so all in on podcasts which is you know funny because we're doing a podcast right now but I you know I'll get in the car and depending on where I'm going sometimes I'm like 10 minutes like don't even start a podcast like because then I have to get out and go to the grocery store or whatever but um if I'm on a walk with my dog you know and I'm like yeah you know we got we got some time you know I just like I love just having a podcast because I have a story that starts and ends roughly when I start and end you know my walk or my run or you know whatever and I guess I just never listened to any music in January I tried February by the way and it was like not enough data right right right yeah because we're not done with it yet so yeah we got to finish now did you I guess the next thing to check would be your year for 2023 because they they did do the yearly replays it's just the first time that they um decided to do monthly so would be interesting no um you don't have to expose anything Sarah but like at least tell us I mean I I've got no shame I got no shame in this game this is your replay jump in let me see if I can do oh yeah see I was only doing 24 let's see oh look at 2023 okay you listen to some music here okay oh yes last year quite this is your replay oh it's still um well uh I'll just I'll just tell I I'm not going to go through it you know yeah piece by piece with everybody but my top artists for 2023 were Otis Redding for obvious reasons that's who my dog is named after Elliott Smith Willco and Rihanna well okay yeah how many minutes 800 sorry 787 total songs certain songs also a little embarrassing um that I listened to over and over um Rihanna who is like my favorite artist ever so I'm not embarrassed about her diamonds um apparently I listened to that 14 times in 2023 I don't know I guess once for every month plus a couple whatever I don't I I don't know if that's a lot Sarah but you know you did listen to music so I did I did I am a music listener oh my goodness yeah I mean you know it's fun if you uh the thing about it is that you have to like hardcore apple music users are going to get more out of this you know and I mentioned on our socials like I do listen to most of my music on Spotify and Apple is sort of like oh special um Apple version or if I want to hear you know um the um spatial audio or I don't know I just kind of listen to it I use Apple music differently but it's not I haven't really catered it to my taste because I'm doing that all on Spotify so it's interesting so um it may not really be what you're listening to all the time because um you're not using in that way but it can be if you try so I might try a little bit more I don't know we'll see it's it's just I you know when you just invest this is this is exactly what happens you invest so much on a different platform that it's just hard to move over oh yeah I mean I can't tell you how many times someone's like hey this is a cool song you know or album yeah artist or whatever and they send me a Spotify link and I'm like you know I am Apple music you know it's like like I can listen to it on Spotify like you can have a free account on Spotify but I'm like no I just want everything to be on Apple music come on get on my team you know but it doesn't really matter no no it doesn't matter and frankly the artists need both streams to count you know if you're trying to support a particular artist they need the streams on Apple they need the streams on Spotify so listen to them in both areas if you want you know or wherever you do google music wherever you you know wherever you decide to to listen to music but um I didn't mean to make funny as Sarah I just thought it was so funny like when you told me that you didn't have a January I was like this is this is awesome like well so in my defense in my defense yes I I moved mid-December but then it was the holidays and you know I mean my house is definitely more put together than it was a month ago but like I still need some work you know I'm only two months and so I think I just like I don't know didn't listen to music but that's so weird I like at first I was like oh this is a bug of some kind yeah it like hasn't like tracked my music and then I was like have I though I mean maybe not maybe I only listened like on the radio here and there which I'm still like a weird legacy media person who's like a good radio station just give it to me you know I don't take it yeah do you do satellite radio at all in your car no I used to I used to um when it was free uh with my Volvo lease uh now that I bought my Volvo outright I would have to pay for it and I haven't but um in LA where we live um there's like cool radio stations kcrw is like yeah great uh npr affiliate affiliate that does like a lot of music and and uh surfaces cool stuff that I wouldn't know about otherwise I don't know I mean I'm a creature of habit yeah no that's fair that's fair and you have to you have to be really active to choose on apple music right and like you said if you're only using it for podcasts um you know like how many times have you sat like even maybe you're in the car going somewhere and like what do I want to listen to or maybe on the couch in the living room being like what do I want to watch and sometimes you're just like I don't know I just want just give me something just give me something give me something that I'll like I don't I don't want to do it yeah I don't want to be in charge right now exactly sometimes with music okay well you know just to to apple music's horn I mean they do have radio stations on uh very true they that that you can actually just go in there and like they'll give it to you like oh I'll get into the let me see here what do I want to listen to today Sarah uh we'll never know we'll never know and that's the day Eileen died so tragic so c-spawn is like is that are we at six I think we might be at six I was just gonna get excited about the get-up mix you guys the get-up mix oh the get-up mix yeah no you know what you're right those those radio stations I mean radio station stations um on on apple music or is the only it was the only app that I'm using they can be awesome you know and you got like cool sit-downs with artists and yeah all sorts of stuff all sorts of stuff in there there's a radio tab I just forgot to tell you about that but yeah you can listen to their their their hosts you can listen to a lot of the artists have their own shows Elton John has like an ongoing radio show that you can listen to on demand which sometimes you know he's got some pretty interesting you know that man's listening to music is what I'm trying to say oh and like actually I forgot all of the stations are on there but it is easier to just turn on your car radio though right especially if you're just driving around yes and no you're right that I mean if I am sort of like okay I like NPR content um KCRW which is a it's an LA based radio station if anybody hasn't figured that out um which is it's it's quite well known as far as uh being sort of uh you know independent news but also a lot of music station they've got an app I mean all that stuff could be a car play thing for me I don't know why I'm I I just get lazy sometimes and I'm like no radio it works and you know whatever's easiest for you is probably what should work best until you decide that you want something different you know like everybody should everybody should do what's best for you and then if you want to do something new and try something new later great you know it is there sometimes I discover things I'm like wow I didn't I had no idea that was already there it would have been easier for me but I didn't know you know like same you open up an app all the time but but you know that's the beauty that's it everybody has a different um timeline I guess right like I it's the way I think about watching shows um some people might be binging a particular show but I don't get to that for another three or four months then I go oh my god I totally get it now you know thanks for encouraging me but I just didn't want to do it when it when everybody asked it or whatever oh my gosh uh what's what's the um the show with Megan Markle suits oh oh are you watching that I've never watched it okay and I mean I can't tell you how many people were like Sarah you will love the show and I'm like I know I know I I believe you I'll get to it are they I'll get to it are they picking they're they're gonna go back to it or something right the new oh okay I'm seeing the show I don't I don't even really know I only know the news I don't watch this show either but I will tell you something like succession now we're going on tangents here but like it took me uh two seasons to finally watch it and I binge the first two seasons in like two weeks it was so good but I didn't watch it along with everybody else there we go balloons uh and then of course I finished I finished watching it uh with everybody live but it was one of those things I'm like now I don't need to watch a bunch of rich people and then I then when I finally started watching it oh yes I need to I need to watch I need to know who wins yeah I need to know you know what it's so funny my mom was the exact same way I I remember I don't know I was visiting her or something and and um you know we were sort of like oh let's watch something and I'm like are you caught up on succession she's like no I never started and I'm like you don't have to do this okay all I will start with you episode one season one right now yeah and like the first episode she was like so this is just about like rich people who are mean to each other and I was like yeah but it's great you just you just go with it you know and she was sort of like I don't know I don't like it and then by the end of it she was right just the same as you like you know very like you know on you know forums and you know talking about she was on the forums wow okay that's awesome she does the forums yeah no no no that's awesome that means she was really into it that she wanted to keep the dialogue she was into it oh yeah it was like you were not enough you weren't like you weren't talking to her enough about it she's like I gotta go to these people online Eileen's gonna die again am I gonna die again I think so you've gone black what yes you've gone black and that's usually when you die aw goodness gracious I need a drink goodness gracious all right this is the worst I'm so sorry everybody don't be sorry don't be sorry um you know what I do want to talk about though um and this is I've been I've been holding this one in my back pocket uh since I guess uh early January at CES but this is a fun one just a little I don't have it but um wondering if anybody has or would be interesting and the clicks iPhone case so what it is is it's it's it's a case for either a pro or a max iPhone 14 or 15 which adds a physical keyboard to the bottom of the case so you might be like how do how would it add a physical keyboard it makes the iPhone longer like it's not overlaying what the virtual keyboard would be but once you once you dock it you know once you once you have the case um it uh apparently works you know pretty seamlessly and uh allows you to type using the keyboard anybody who's a blackberry fan might say this is pretty great um it's uh going to be 140 for for iPhone pros um and then uh 160 for pro maxes which obviously are the larger phones so different different size cases comes in black and yellow kind of cool I actually had somebody send this to me during CES and was like oh this is the most amazing thing I've ever seen and I was like are you really going to get one he's like yes I love this I miss my blackberry I miss physical keyboards this is awesome um I don't I don't care enough to get this I just don't okay but I thought you were building me I get I thought you were building me up well I'm building anybody up who who wants this I just don't care I also just don't I don't feel like I type on my phone in any capacity like enough where I'm like I'm gonna have to do this all day like I really need a physical keyboard if I did then maybe this would be like a super cool maybe a travel accessory type thing okay I don't really care but I I know a lot of people who do and I think it's pretty genius and it apparently it works while you have the case on the phone charging works through pass through fine um apparently there's no you know uh you know the battery charges uh uh as as as it should but you can't um do any data transfer from another device which would be annoying so like it it really seems to me like something that if you like let's say I don't know like all you got is your phone you are not going to be near a laptop or a desktop or whatever for some time and you're going to have to write some emails this might be a pretty cool thing or maybe you just you just like you know that tactile situation right which is also cool it's cool that it works yeah no it is cool and you know hey they've got this bright yellow color and they have the london sky color uh I guess it's reserve not notify get notified when available but I feel like uh I don't need this but I think it's cool you know it's one of those like especially there are people out there that really need that tactile feel right so I I I'm like hey this is for you um I wonder if it it seems like it wouldn't make it feel like you know when you have an addition and if you're only holding it at the the bottom of the like it doesn't feel like the phone is dropping right do you know what I mean like it's it because you're typing you're typing all the way at the end and your hands are all the way at the end it doesn't ever feel like oh I'm gonna tip yeah yeah I mean again this is just it's a form factor that I think is is really genius and a lot of you know I know a lot of people are like yes this is what I want you know I missed my I don't know team will uh what was the one um the uh oh come on somebody in the somebody in the chat help me out the team sidekick sidekick you know like like back in the days you know where we had the keyboards um I love that stuff but um yeah this is I also just don't use a case for my iPhone which is that's right totally uh to my detriment because I end up shattering all of them although I did not shatter my last 13 I had a good solid couple years all good no problems I just don't I feel like cases are they're fine but just I I'm like well now I just can't see the phone that I bought I just want it by itself mm-hmm I always get the clear case for that reason because I choose a color for a very uh important reason to me for aesthetics right so I want to show off the color um so I generally just go with a clear case um if I want to spend the extra dough and get like another you know fun funky case then maybe I'll do it but for the most part I just do the I pretty much buy when I get the phone I go right to the Apple Store I buy the clear case and I'm out the door so and and then I never look back and I haven't bought other cases since um since the last couple years it's usually the same one although this one's cracking so it might need this one my my current case I I I draw my phone a couple times already but thank god I had the case so the phone is fine but I could definitely see cracks cracks in the case already yeah well I mean it did its job it did its job and I'm very I'm very thankful um but that means maybe I might need another one a new one to replace this uh before I get the upgrade in October I yeah I've never I've never well that's not I don't know if I've ever had an iPhone case I feel like I probably have just because I've tried them out you know over the years but no I I like I like a nice smooth naked phone sounds weird but I do you know I just like as soon as I put a case on I'm like I don't like it as much yeah I know uh other people just like you there's many of of you uh naked iPhone users um it's just you know it's colony of sorts I um I feel like right now I'm too accident prone for that to happen um I would prefer not to have it but uh I don't trust myself so I and I mean I guess I could trust myself this is like the the Apple program where you can upgrade and I have the every year and then you um have you know Apple care and all that so I guess I could just go replace it if I really you know messed it up but I still goodbye forever Eileen we miss you so much rest in peace I don't know how much you hear from me when this happens uh but uh I try to you know keep it like you know with death certificates and stuff like that oh my god zero minutes without incident that's right uh Nick I I don't know guys I'm gonna upgrade my computer uh make sure all the new software for all the new applications are here for next week this has never happened before obviously we've been through three shows no we've we've been we've been we've been super smooth and we had Lamar Wilson yeah last week so it's like we know that even you know having multiple streams not an issue I think it might be a chrome thing because I updated chrome earlier today um yeah I don't even know what updated but um it might be might be something weird going on over there listen um in the interest of time because uh you know everybody wants to have dinner whatever um just a reminder we are on the socials uh where can people find us on instagram and youtube Eileen at apple vision show please follow us there we will be active and um I don't know we'll see maybe getting some like instagram trends make some cool reels we'll see or you can just see snippets of our show give us some feedback to uh you know feedback at apple vision show.com or on the socials please do that as well so you can send us you can send 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stronger that's right uh so episode four in the can uh thanks everybody for listening and watching if you're watching and joining us live if you're joining us live let's do it all again next week thank you everybody appreciate your patience for those of you watching uh live and we will see you next week bye bye you guys whoever watches this youtube video is going to be like what is i thought it was it was i mean at first i was like oh what happened and then i was like oh i know what's happening and then i'm like i don't know what's happening well the first time i dropped out i could you also you came back like in five seconds each time so it wasn't like i was like oh no where do i go you know i was like oh it should be bad it's like if i could predict when i was gonna go off air i would have had you on full screen because like like the first time i did and you didn't even know and so right yeah i was like la la la la la i love my story so much turns out she's like i wasn't even there i was trying to hang in i was trying to just be in with you i was like am i allowed to be on the show is there something that's going on yeah you imagine stream marriage is like no eileen bye you're out of here yeah you're done you're done oh my god you guys that was one for the ages i swear like i i don't even know what just happened i'm gonna black out well you know what um because uh well and she did she just blacked right on out of here she'll be back she'll be back we know this you know what eileen eileen's like nope i don't want to know i'm out of here um i don't even know my point was going to be anymore i think i think it was something like oh i know i know what it was i um having had technical problems over the years in a variety of scenarios and you have as well i will say your disposition is very sunny because if it were me i would be i would be like not not this isn't fun i'm going i have to go i have to give you a burrito somewhere and be by my song i need a drink yeah no i i'm gonna come on the show with a drink when we should have one show where we're like you know like cheers and you know yeah yeah uh you know maybe get an afternoon but hey you know you're a sponsor you know afternoon beer spot whatever um i'm just manifesting for us but uh i am uh i'm okay i don't feel frustrated i'm just tired it's more like oh my god happened again no it's it's frustrating it's it's a wait especially when you don't know why because this is i mean we use we're using stream yard right now um and um we use that for dts and i know a variety of people who use it for other things and not perfect but this is a new one this is a new one though you know it doesn't it doesn't make a lot of sense it probably is a chrome thing i mean i don't really know but yeah you know somebody uh roger or uh they'll just tell me wow eileen did you do this like oh maybe no i don't like i said we're learning what you would do but yeah yeah at least i jumped back pretty quick that didn't take long to reload and also everything is recording thank god i got used to it i was like oh we got we got black box she'll be back in five i figured you were like just gonna roll with it like anyway so no i i tried to have fun with it you know um eileen's death has been greatly exaggerated everyone she's actually fine thank god oh my god you guys this was uh this was fun and it was fun this was fun you know it was fun it was it monday february 26th let that be a lesson to all of us we don't know what the lesson is yet we don't know it's we don't know but uh you know it will a day that will live in infamy i'm like what is the day next week i'm like our show on the fourth march fourth it'll be march it'll be different march forward totally that's a good one that's a good one that's good uh i don't i don't know why uh uh yes uh w scottis one oh i am you're going again okay here bye eileen now it's just funny i think that means we have to end the stream soon bye i think so i think so um this was uh and yeah i've i've i gotta take the pup pup out um so this was this was fun it was fun it was entertaining and it was a learning experience absolutely everybody you guys thank you for all your support please um send us some of your uh internet mojo next week i'll i'll help democon oh he was like democon fell oh no oh no you can't have democon fall uh that is a good it's a good litmus test i'll tell you of people who are like what is that or people who are like oh democon love that yeah yeah it's one of the other it's one of the other every time what can you see on our shelves all right guys i'm gonna end the stream because it's gonna crap out on me anyway and then uh we will see you guys next week thank you so much everybody hi y'all see you next week