 Good morning. Happy Saturday everybody. Everybody's stuffed to the gills all of our American friends Did you gain some weight over the holiday? Uh, I haven't checked But I did enjoy my food You don't look like somebody who checks the the the scale every day. No, not every day not every day I don't ever check the scale. Maybe I should I hardly ever. I probably should as well, but How are you guys today? You're working on it. I I had I was in sydney austria last night My wings are tired from flying wings. They're tired. Yes. My wings are tired Um, and I did a talk about mitochondrial DNA and I was talking to betsy and to greg about it And betsy said, oh, I want to show you what I did And it's so cute. Uh, let me find it. Here we go. Look at this Betsy looks just like all of her ancestors Doesn't she? That's great. That's so betsy. Tell us the names of of these. Yeah. Yeah, so um to my left is my mother susanne Tudor McMurray, right? Then to her left is my maternal grandmother Margaret, uh, redwood. Good name. Yeah And then to her left far left is my great grandmother. Annie victoria Tudor Tudor So Tudor was her maiden name Tudor. Are you royal? Yes, you know, that's what got me into genealogy There they the family says we are and I never believed it So I'm you know, trying to prove it or disprove it. I I don't know So this is this is betsy's mitochondrial relationship trail back to her great Great grandmother. Yeah, that's so cool. She's a Tudor We bow to you wait curtsy Yeah, it's saturday and you never know what's gonna happen on saturday. Um, thank you for letting me share betsy. Um, I Let's see. I could get my other screen ready. There we go It's it's a wonderful day in the neighborhood And so that was fun and it was fun that betsy showed that to me this morning because yesterday I got lost I was going through cleaning up my screen screens for my slide deck last night for last night and all day along yesterday I went and I researched my stuff for family tree dna They're doing away with their their family trees at family tree dna They announced that at the conference that we were at in houston So I was going through my mitochondrial dna matches and grabbing the information from the trees that that my matches that uploaded And adding them to the notes section That isn't going away so that I would have the information that they had on their trees available So that I would have that. Um, I don't know what's going to go on Beyond that, but I understand they're going to be using a third party tool For their family tree connections moving forward. So that'll be interesting to watch So in that conversation telling them about me getting lost down the rabbit hole of wiki tree yesterday working on my my own mitochondrial dna project Betsy showed us that great picture Tudor a tutor. Yeah, so how are you guys doing and we have anybody fun in the uh common We've got lots of people here Uh, somebody's laughing at chris. I know chris ferriero was here brian. You're here first I'm so tired of giving you the first arrival thing Christine milliner is here. Lynette jester. Yoke is here. Hey, y'all Um, let's see victor is here Good time zone everybody did the time changing somewhere People are talking about the temperature. You can tell it's getting cold in the northern hemisphere when people start talking about the temperature Up santa claus parade is two blocks from lisa drivaze's house this morning then uh Murray baloney is here. Hey, murray Uh, hey, let's see Susie card is here. Audrey martin's here. Hey, Audrey Uh, laura w mary bookholz Uh Donna gerber Uh chris ferriero. Are you said hey to chris? Are you in mary slappy? Present She's not she's are you a present? Or are you present? Tell us okay All right, so Question of the week what was us Thanksgiving this week? So some some of you ate up lots of turkey and stuffing question of the week is What are you thankful for what has researching your family history made you thankful for What what are you about you? Um, I I think it's really given me a much deeper sense of self and You know there's that saying about like walk like you have your all your ancestors behind you and I really You know as the more research I do I feel that and it strengthens me What about you greg? Very similar. I mean, I'm thankful for the all the connections. I've made with my biological family and um and also the the whole wiki tree family that Has adopted me basically I love wiki tree so much and I love that wiki tree has adopted me and It's been years that I've been around here and I'm very thankful for this community. I think wiki tree wiki tree Is is it it is family to me wiki tree is so much family and I love love that I get to be a part of your Family every Saturday morning I'm the annoying kid at the Kiddy's table saying mom passes syrup All right, so I yeah, there were a lot of there aren't a lot of questions answers this week. Um and somebody already upvoted a Best answer I feel more spiritually connected Than years ago because I've learned more mostly on my own very thankful to know Who they are and most thankful that my mom and my grandmother left me with a lot of photos and write-ups That I would never have known without it um That's from anonymous harms and it was upvoted by claire pearson I'm gonna leave that as our best vote best answer question because A lot of people said that you know that they were very thankful that they had Photographs and things um and alexis nelson. I love alexis. I love your pictures Researching my ancestors has made me so much more aware of the travels They made before planes and automobiles and consequently their journeys were hard I see most of them came from humble beginnings They had to work doing manual labor without the many conveniences that I enjoy today So alexis is thankful that they went through all of that to get to where they are now My great-grandmother laura lovelace and my great-great-grandmother catherine morris both died from complications giving birth This was something that I never knew before doing genealogy I truly appreciate the sacrifice that they made And I hope that by doing genealogy and leaving behind the memories of their lives that they will be honored by future generations I'm thankful for that You know, I'm thankful that people have that sense like you do and and greg of of Moving it forward for the future generations. Do you guys have somebody in your family that's coming up that's into genealogy? Not that no one is emerge clearly yet Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna I was thinking about this the other night. I was looking at bookshelves underneath my tv Set, you know in our living room I'm like looking at those books and the kind of messy papers that are up underneath that They're not too bad and I'm like, you know, I really should get to organizing this stuff And I'm like when when I died nobody's gonna make heads or tail of my stuff I'm like, oh no, hopefully that's many many years from now. Yeah I gotta get a work on this. It won't take me years to get this mess cleaned up You know, yeah, have you have you organized your stuff for for people? Yeah, no That's you No tree. I haven't wiki tree wiki tree is my organization I mean So I know, you know, I go to like three discrete locations either virtually or physically and but Each of those places. Oh, yeah, you just made me think. Oh, maybe I should leave them clues Oh, yes That's a funny idea Drive down so-and-so road and left find the big rock dig it up. There'll be a rubber made there Buried wrapped in plastic. That's funny Uh, David Draper says that I'm thankful after 71 years that I know where I'm from Again talking about what Betsy and Greg were talking about that sense of identity that sense of self um Where I came from who I came from and the stories my family left behind I would not have known any of that if not for wiki tree Here we go. We're thankful for a wiki tree again. I'm very thankful for all the hard work behind uh Everyone behind the curtains that wiki tree has done to make this site the absolute best of its kind Uh, what words of thanks carry enough meaning to convey the feelings of gratitude for this site That helps us find our heritage. Wow That's a nice one. Thank you, David um I don't know. Do you feel like you're working behind the curtains craig? For wiki tree behind the curtains like I guess sort of, you know, working, you know, yeah Yeah, I think but I think that every volunteer could probably say that because everybody gives a little bit of themselves so it's it's like How many people are on wiki tree today? You know how it we're all working behind the curtains We're all building up this collaborative site Uh, I'm thankful. This is from Susan on smith for the hour spent absorbed and learning about my family It kept my mind off physical maladies. I've had And that I have for hours at a time I've also learned so much about the history of people and places Why they migrated when and where they did and and how that makes more sense to me Uh, and here is a big one. I've I've been able to trace my smith family thankful that I can Did you guys hear that thankful that I can trace my smith, you know I'm doing a talk in june about the seven words. You can't say in genealogy kind of like george carlin and one of them is smith That's one of the seven words you can't say Oh There's several of them, but yeah, it's uh, one of the little mini keynotes at the ontario genealogical june thing June conference, uh, let's see realizing how much people had to To survive to make it to adulthood oliver stegan that goes along with the same Kind of thoughts that we were having before Um, let's see exploring my family history deep in my gratitude in several ways As someone enamored in with history. I cherish the discoveries from the past Reflecting on both triumphs and challenges that faced my ancestors. So thankful that the ancestors were there Uh, I guess I'm most thankful for knowing the history from k smith that history was recorded Although purposefully misleading in some cases Oh, it just makes the puzzle harder to put together. There you go Uh, it lies in records stories and data sometimes forgotten and ignored yet Waiting to be awakened without a doubt. I know more about my family than anyone alive today or years past Oh, I didn't even thought about that. Wow Um, have you guys thought of that? No, you know more about your family than anybody probably My dad always says oh, you're finding all the secrets I always say dad, there are no secrets to find not in our family. Well, there's one little secret. Um If I told you I'd have to kill you So there was some conversation going back and forth between mary and seruti and alexis nelson I always love to see when people get collaborative on these Chats Research thankful for research. I've been able to do on my family tree that from jenelle Johnson, uh And another thank you for wiki tree and everyone for this beautiful site Let's see Thankful that I've been able to solve so many family mysteries my own and for others. That's from michelle matthews Searching for my ancestors just led me to find my direct descendant of the mayfowler pilgrims Perfect answer for Thanksgiving weekend. Absolutely. And then, uh, let's see sacrifices made by my family Made for the future of this country that I believe in from chris wine and brian nash You you were first in and last to make your uh post here It was it made me thankful all my ancestors who came before me and what they needed to go through for me to be here so going through the same Feeling as everybody else also thankful that I do not have to experience many of the everyday Normal seas the generations before me had to go through. Can you imagine washing your clothes down at the creek with a washboard? No slamming them on rocks. You know No, no, so that is the question of the week Good stuff I thought my clock said 10 17. It said 10 11 Oh Do you want to go on for another six? I'm fine I like the the answers and I like that so many of the answers were Yay, wiki tree. Yeah. Yeah wiki tree has been a huge influence in my life. It has Yeah, me too. Me three Uh, what are all these people doing over here? Oh, let's go over here. I'm gonna catch up. I'm gonna pick out the comments while I Yeah I mean Really big So the profiles of the week again or any comments you want to No, no, I think we're good. We're good. Yeah, I think people agreed. Yeah Yeah, no, chris ferry Ellis is one of the seven words you can't say and genealogy is name change at Ellis island No, that's not one word either chris. It's not one word Uh, so the profiles of the week, um, just as max has already alluded to the Mayflower The first Thanksgiving the Mayflower passengers and the first Thanksgiving attendees, which ones of those are you most closely connected to? And As I was reading through them, I think now some of this is familiar I remember researching all about the Mayflower and the founding of the Plymouth company and I thought We've been here before so I actually Went on youtube and did a search for November 22 2022 um to discover what we had done and in fact uh, we had Done just that those were the profiles and here is a screenshot Is it the exact profiles? What's that? So some of them are this they're not all the same but some of them are the same So have we gotten into a TARDIS? Have we gotten into a TARDIS? That's right So some of these profiles I should be able to go through fairly quickly and And just skim over some of the the facts because if you want more details You can just go back a year and go jump into your TARDIS go back a year and because It took me 10 minutes to get through the first profile What? Or the first two profiles anyways, it was a uh It was a learning curve for me all about the details the Details of the first Thanksgiving that I didn't know all the specifics about Um, but I'm going to do something a little different this this times because I we're going to talk about the profiles And and the people in them and whatnot and some of them quicker than others The ones that were covered last year. Um, but I'm wearing my hacktoberfest shirt because I thought That um, one of the things I mentioned at the very end of last week's live cast is that Jamie had done an an update to all of the tree apps. So a lot of the tree apps that have been worked on during the hacktoberfest uh, were updated during that that month and She made those updates live last week and some of the more further refinements that were going on The first couple weeks of November So I'm going to show off some of the tree apps that you may or may not have used before And um, I won't be going through all of the details and all of the new Specs of each of them, but I just going to give you a quick Show um show of them so that you're aware of the the variety that's there now Uh, so the premier one the one that is was highlighted first Uh profile of the week unlike last week where I forgot the profile person The lead person until Betsy reminded me I'm going to start with the lead person and that is Richard Warren so Richard Warren born 1583 in England somewhere and died in 1628 at age 45 in Plymouth Plymouth colony He was a passenger on the Mayflower and like many of these profiles, and I don't know if all of the Mayflower or The majority of them are like this, but many of them have uncertain origins and one thing about wiki tree is The genealogists, you know who are part of wiki tree all of us Take this very seriously. And so these profiles, of course, have been very well researched I mean, there's there's a whole society called the Maryflower society, right? Like this these are not just unknown people these are highly celebrated and famous because of their their origins, but Their actual origins back in England for many of them It's unknown and so there's lots of theories and This profile is is just like many of those it goes through different discoveries and the evidence and what they're they're weighing here and there and Like many of them if they're not sure They don't put in the father and the mother of just the ones who they think might be They wait till they're really sure before they fill in the the field or the parents So, you know, I've got to appreciate that and it's very very interesting going through all the details I'm not going to go through the details here because again that would just Expand the time but it's a very interesting read and I recommend it strongly So anyways, what we do know though is that eventually Richard Became a merchant in London and he so there's a couple interesting things He was known. He became a free man of London. So that I hadn't heard of that term before but he was free of London, which meant that He was being a free man of London Or a free person of London because apparently women could be I don't know as early back when that was a thing or not, but it basically granted you the right to To sell and do trade inside the city And if you weren't then you you couldn't and he was also part of the draper's company of London. So Which was a trade association Of merchants who work with wool products, you know, so draperies and livery and stuff like that He was an apprentice at one point and then You couldn't be you couldn't get married as an apprentice So he did get married apparently shortly after his apprenticeship was up And then he had apprentice apprentices of his own According to some of the documents And then eventually he was one of the businessmen who helped finance and then became and went on the trip for the the Mayflower so He married Elizabeth Walker from her for shire One of the Suggestions is that he himself might have been from that area and that's how he he knew her but Again, it's not solid. So that's why the parents aren't listed there. He has seven children who survived and had children of their own and his The biggest claim to fame Is that he is the one known to her He is the Mayflower passenger who has more descendants than any other estimated 14 million descendants Like it's only estimated because of course they haven't tracked down every single one of them and they're you and they must be Some stats to you know for it must be an algorithm There's on i'm sure there's an algorithm for but imagine that Have you looked to see how many descendants he has on wiggy tree? Well, uh, he had because he has no parents All of his cc. Well, I guess his cc sevens wouldn't know is descendants button. There's no descendants button Uh, there is it'll take a long time to go to go But what I do, uh, what I can show you is the first tree app that I'm going to show is the stats app Uh, now I limited to five because when I put it on 10 it just Cranked and it just went and spun spun spun out of control So, um, if I had more time, I would load it up to 10 generations But so this app here, this is one of the ones that's under tree apps Um, and it's called generational statistics. This used to be the app that jaymie had done jaymie's stats app and now it has um It has been improved Um And uh Someone was working with jaymie whose name is now escaping me. I'm going blank. So someone Murray I know is in the chat So he could probably tell me the name that i'm blanking on who helped jaymie add these extra features to it So he's added a lot more columns along the top and Instead of jaymie's app was just about ancestors you ever you'll And the last time we showed this app actually it was about ancestor statistics But now he's got an option so you can take the um the stats for the descendants going the opposite direction. So The earliest and the latest birth year of a particular generation The average birth year marriage age and that sort of thing and then he added lifespan Number of children and number of siblings those two columns weren't weren't there really very cool. Isn't that really neat? Yeah So and he also does a total count now in the ancestors the total count Of course goes up by powers of two, you know two four eight Because the ancestors is a very finite and predictable number descendants not nearly Not nearly predictable and um practically infinite when you get down to However many generations the max is still 10 So you're not going to get to the modern age Um using this but it'll be interesting to see and I was trying to load it up and then uh, it just sort of Hung there because it was you know going up look how it went from 1 7 57 153 288 You know, so if you want to crash your computer run I did but it would only show me 57 grandchildren and nothing further Oh, okay. Well, the other thing is because I'm loading up different tree apps for each one of these people I'm thinking okay at some point The wiki tree server is going to cut me off And I won't be able to load anything No more apps for you I don't find that happens very often on wiki tree though That's one of the things I love about wiki tree is wiki tree itself does not hang up No, wiki tree itself doesn't now The some of the apps have um, we have experienced over um Well in october sometimes we were when we were trying to when we were Programming there there were some apps and maybe because we were on our own servers or our own test servers There were times where it was time timing out, but they've been working on that problem And I think brian and jamey have uh have made that a better brian Well brian has been doing it but james has been asking him to do it from our behalf Yeah, because murray meloni did answer you oh he did Oh, he's blanking too Oh, no, um It wasn't jonathan to it was uh Oh Sorry, I I could find it if I went over to discord and looked through my messages But that wouldn't be very exciting for you folks So, uh, I apologize in advance for um, just apologize to that person because that's the person you're offending I know well, I am I'm mortified that I We think you need to do you do a g2g post apology Okay, let's move on William Bradford we talked a lot at length about him last time. He of course was the the second governor He was the multiple. He was the governor of polemic colony multiple times Wow, the governor ship was was an elected position and So they went back back and forth back and forth And uh, so he came from of course yorkshire england, uh born before uh st. joseph's day March 15 19 of the 19 And passed away the 9th of may 1657 at age 67 And unlike them he know we do know who his parents were so his parentage isn't in doubt They actually have his baptism there and uh So he had two wives his first wife, uh, they had one child by this first wife and you might recall The tragedy his first wife Died actually didn't make it to land. She died. She fell off the ship into the harbour and drowned Yes She they were in plymouth. They were in plymouth harbour, but she had an accident there Oh, no, it wasn't that set and you guys that was basically the reaction you guys had last year When I told you this Did you watch all of last year's show? I didn't watch all of it. I watched the beginning and I thought Okay, how many of that's a repeat that's a repeat. Uh, anyways, they're not all But but this is all new content us We're all new content Bless you. Betsy Betsy's having the daintiest little sneeze I didn't even hear it. I know you can't she's like Yeah, mine are much more you can't sneeze in our house that everybody in the house doesn't hear it Yeah, that's right. Yeah, so, uh, so that's Yeah, so he he was one of the timeline and I think I commented about this last time a really nice timeline that sort of goes through Um, all the the steps leading up to and then coming over the said demise in, um, December, uh, so he signed the contract on the male fly compact in november The accidental uh death there um And then so on so That's his claim to fame And so the the app I've shown here is of course the fan chart app because he's one of the few that actually has a significant fan chart Yeah So that and then the other because this he's one of the few that actually has Any ancestor to speak of the other app there is this practical tree now neither of these were actually updated during october fest So i'm not going to spend any time on on them, but those are two different ways of looking at your ancestors. Um, basically the same Uh, the same I can add more generations. Well No, I can't there we go. Oh, that's interesting That's a bug that's we're going off into the netherlands There's a new bit of information too. Not only are we getting to see these beautiful charts. We just found a bug We found a bug There we go, uh, let's just go back down to here. There we go. Um So different ways of looking at your ancestors are organizing them Uh, next is john alton who we also talked about last time and again, you'll see that we don't know his parents We don't know His brother or his siblings disproven disputed and completing competing not completing Competing theories about this person's parents see the text for details Greg big orange warning Um, there weren't big orange warnings on the other one So maybe this one was one people have been changing more often and so they felt the need to Put it up there Uh, john was a cooper. Uh, so a barrel maker and uh, he went over as a young lad How young was he? Okay, he was born in 58. So he would be what 22 Um in 1620 In 1620 that was middle-aged. Yeah middle-aged Especially if you're on the Mayflower And he may well he married two years later in 1622 And uh, so one of the Mayflower descendants, uh, he was the um That's he was a young hopeful young man much desired but left to his own liking to go for a stay when he came here But he stayed and married here That's what someone said about him uh, there was a He married priscilla mullins And there was a whole poem and it's written about later on that mild standish was in love with her And there was a long fellow poem about the courtship of mild standish um That involves sort of that love triangle which then at the end it said was that was it was kind of Ruled that that's probably it was probably fictitious that That the poem wasn't necessarily factual Um, I think I think john was one of the ones who got into a duel The only one the only one who got into a duel if I remember him correctly Uh, where is it here? Uh I can't He was uh, he was a pretty good people find out if miles if john got into a I thought I thought he was one of the ones gotten a duel But anyways, we talked a lot about him last time so i'm not going to go much further, but uh, there was a nice memorial for him there and The app i'm going to show here is the cc7 Views which is turned into a real powerhouse of an app now it existed before heck overfist, but um, it's been added to Since then and uh, there's a lot honey. I'm over here trying to scroll down your screen. I can't Do when he's when he's showing something are you trying to scroll betsy? I did one at one point earlier Oh, that's hilarious. So, um, one of the things in the the cc7 app is you can actually so um, I can't reply I you can actually choose which cc like Connection level you want to load it up that and be knowing that these people have so many connections like each one of them to go back Let me go back. He has Uh Where does it say here? Oh, it's not saying on his Um Nothing's working for you today, right? 2008 the connections 108,000 connections for willing for that's a lot of connections. That's a lot of connections And I don't know why uh, john I'm thankful for every one of the wiki triggers who work to make those connections happen Yes, yes, imagine like that's the massive work But anyways, you can choose you can limit the number the how far out You go low so that Makes it load faster, right? And you can also get you can pick a degree and just look and just load that degree So we could just load just the people who are three degrees away from Uh, john alton if we wanted to So that's really neat, especially if you're if you want to sort of zoom in or you want a subset of people to investigate Yeah, that's a really neat feature to have It says it's not showing because he's not notable He's not notable Really? You're right. That was a difference between those two profiles. Ah, good eye. Good eye We're thankful for yoke. Yes And of course now one of the things that was added is these uh, the privacy feature So you can choose a privacy level of the Of the profiles that you want to view So now because most of these people are way back they're they're going to be open So we don't have to worry about you know ones that are locked For this particular subset that I've got but if you're working on your own or you know or your parents Then some of the profiles that will come up will be locked and some won't won't be Or if you're just doing some random ones It's frustrating to look for ones that you want to change and realize. Oh the profile is locked So I've just wasted all this time investigating stuff and I can't actually edit it because it's locked I'm not a pro And then these two top ones here Um Will show you whether they've pat they have bio check issues or not Because one of the options that has been added is the bio check has been integrated into this Um, so you can see that it says bio check is enabled in the settings. So that's a setting now Where you can turn on bio check So you can actually check the profiles to see if they've passed that And there's lots of other um options that have been added as well So I would I encourage you strongly to investigate the cc7 because it's such a powerful app now Um, moving on edward dodie also someone we talked about last uh last time That is your closest at 15 degrees greg. Ah, okay Let's see if he's a real cousin. He is not a real cousin No, I don't think I have any that are actual cousin cousins of mine I could be wrong, but I don't remember. I'll look and see. He's okay. You're well busy there. Oh, yeah um, so he's born about 1599 Uh, so again, he would also be uh early 20s when he arrived Um He was a passenger He met um, so he was a servant when he arrived just just even hopkins and his family and Oh, maybe he oh, he's the one who fought the duel. It wasn't john elton. It was this guy who fought the duel I knew that one of the ones that was a repeat bought a duel. So it was the first Uh fought fought a duel. Oh, yes And not only did he they fought a duel And they both got wounded in the duel the person and edward and edward dodie and edward leister who there were Both two servants that were fought. Um, they both got wounded and their Their penance was to be tied up hand to foot Uh and left that way for 24 hours To each other, you know, like you're gonna get together. You're gonna get along kids People use that as a parenting tool. Yes Your toddlers are already running your time together. Yeah, but the funny thing is that They were they were um, they were supposed to be left 24 hours without meat or drink and but Once it began within an hour. They were in such great pain. Um, that they were released They couldn't even stand it after whatever Uh, anyways, that's funny and uh, there's a memorial to them Anyways, he had uh, there's seven children with his second wife No, wait a second. How come there's nine there? Children of edward dodie and his second wife Why'd I say seven? I guess there's nine. Um Anyways Very funny and the tree app that I've shown here is the descendants app. So there's a new app that highlights the descendants and Um, just like with the the ancestors app or which is built into profiles you can You know turn on and off These little uh, little triangles little indicators to expand or contract any specific family So if you're there's a specific family you want to dig into You can turn that on and off and go and go deep as deep as you can Look at look how many levels we're in now. Whoo crazy um And uh, so you can show up to You know, you can determine how many generations you want to show Whether you want to show the spouses the uh, whether they're childless all lots of different options here um, this has been Quite a quite an excellent app In terms of the development the I really like the the look of it Very easy to use and like some of the other ones The the cc7 one as well You can actually export all this information to a spreadsheet if you want to use that to even to To really customize the sorting and the filtering Uh, even more so than what we've got on the wiki tree here. So very cool stuff off mile mile standish, um We talked about him before as well, of course, he was the military man the captain mile standish Uh on the mayflower military commander defender of the of the plymouth colony joined by his wife Uh shortly after their arrival I didn't remember reading this last time that he was known as captain shrimpy due to his diminutive stature So that is kind of nice nice photos on this profile. Yeah, yeah, they've they've really done nice stuff So I like painting there his portrait embarkation Uh, he's got a whole monument. He has a lighthouse. Oh, it's a monument. I see well. It says it's a monument It looks like a lighthouse, doesn't it? It does. Is it a cenotaph? Maybe it's uh, maybe but I mean, there's no light at the top there if it is, it's a non-standard one, I guess More it looks sort of like a hand pump at the top, but I wonder if that's a statue It's probably a statue of him at the top is my guess That's yeah, it looks like a little figure. Yeah so, uh anyways, well on Despite all his military background and military career, he didn't die in a military campaign Campaign, um, but it was probably almost as painful because he died of kidney stones after much suffering. That's not a fun way to go. I don't think so One thing it's too bad mags has disappeared right now because One of the things I wanted to mention and this happens in few others is that their research notes and often dna research notes So there's why dna? Results here from family tree dna Actually through the meat fire society and about the the specific y dna line And again, just like many of them they ask if you if you have if you are connected to that line to reach out and join the project And so the next app that's just short of was the family portraits app And the way this works. I believe is it takes your the primary person then goes to their Their siblings their ancestors and their siblings and so on and because myles has um He is again one of those that we don't have His parents or siblings. Uh, that's a very short list of photos to show Yeah, but I did ask steve. Uh, so, um, steve harris. What is the author of this app? And I did send him a quick message wondering if there was an option to show portraits of descendants because That would go on forever, of course, well not forever, but he has lots of descents and maybe it does and I just Um, it's maybe it's still waiting. I don't know But anyways, it's a neat app if you put in your own Profile or a wiki tree id here. It'll show lists of portraits of of the the family portraits of you and also your Ancestor siblings, which is wow, okay Yeah, you get a neat neat little sort of random collage that just loads up. So that's a neat one That's been added this month Eleanor Armstrong now we're getting to the ones that we haven't talked about before But she was a passenger on the Mayflower one of 18 adult women who came on the Mayflower And one of only four that survived that first winter. You'll recall that there was 150 people who arrived to the colony and in 1620 but after that really wretched winter and not being very well prepared and even though They were helped By the native americans that they met to help survive Still only 53 of them actually survived that winter So that was a very rough one So she was billington. Mrs. Billington when she arrived married to john billington and then later He passed away in 1630 And when when he passed interestingly enough, she had to sign a document Well, I think she had to sign a document to give over all of her possessions to her surviving son So that then she could marry her second husband Which was an interesting. I'm not sure why that was the case The proper inheritance by dissent. Yeah, I guess so So that was an interesting fact I I found from Her there. Yeah, so right there greeted the disposal of her estate to cows before their marriage Here take these cows, um, I don't you know, I don't think two cows would make a nice site and a new House for newlyweds anyways, you know, who wants two cows in the middle of your living room? I don't know steak for dinner Yeah, that's right And again common errors to avoid notice, you know incorrect last name at birth Something so that's kind of neat Uh, and the tree happening used for her is her is the family timeline Then we've we've displayed this one before as well So it gives you the time like there's the the top person is the primary person Which is ellen er here and her two spouses and their, um That's interesting their timeline. Oh, we don't know when gregory's birth was so Uh, I guess they just estimated it So it looks like he was much younger Um, and then if you click on anyone if you click on francis her son the one who inherited those two cows Um, then you get his family timeline. You see his parents His sibling and then his spouse and children and so and so on support and you can zoom in and out to see there If you have a war a large or a large number of people So that's an interesting app And you can sort of and The nice thing about this one is you can visualize like when people were born and they do try the app does try to put them in chronological order But also their ages like when they died as well So you can see which ones died earlier and this one was obviously one who um died in As an infant, you know very young Interesting Next one is mary bruster Born in scrooby So how how many people do you know? personally your friends who claim to be able to track back to this person To screw to mary bruster. Yep. I don't know anyone who I have two friends who are Brewsters Who are mayflower descendants? Ah, isn't that crazy? That's wow You guys are any of you or any people in chat Are you are any of these people that we're talking about are any of those your great great greats? Yeah, and we have a suggestion Yes, just a thought maybe next year you could do some profiles of the hosts Of the first Thanksgiving. Oh I love that idea. Yeah, I do too neat No, I'm not directly descended from any of these people. Oh wait, but I do have one that's like a cousin A close cousin. Yeah, Richard Moore. Is that the one that's the cousin? Yeah, Richard Moore eighth cousin 11 times removed So we talked about So she's born about 1568 in scrooby. So when she came over she was Already uh in her middle ages. Yes Well, there's another idea is having somebody who is who is somehow tangentially related to the mayflower Uh a registrar for mayflower descendants Oh, oh, that's an idea. That's neat. Yeah neat Uh, she was the wife of William Brewster And they were married in 1593. So she was stated about 40 when she came over Um, and she died in 1627 so early on in the So she was born in scrooby and I When I was watching watching last the last time I made a big deal about scrooby because I thought what a cool name I've never heard of it before and and I said not scrooby-doo Yeah, yeah, I was waiting for you to say that again I'm having deja vu deja vu now. Yes So because um last week we talked or last year not last week last year we talked about her husband William Um Anyways, so again, you missed there was a why dna connection with one of the previous profiles and this one Um empty dna mitochondrial dna And they have found one matrilineal descendant and Again, they're looking for others So that's kind of cool Checklist completed And what tree apka there's a a lesh added added a tree app during october fest And basically he's put a link to his wiki tree plus maps on tree apps So you don't actually have to go to wiki tree plus to get great and actually Do a wiki tree maps directly from your profile go to tree apps and then choose wiki tree plus maps and um, you can choose to map the person's ancestors. I've chosen descendants here. So this is um I can zoom me go up there. So here's all the descendants of this mary bruster So you can see of course the biggest chunk of them are in The states in new england area But a bunch went back to the home country and then there's some that have ventured far and wide to the up to the northwest territories in canada Down to mexico into the tip of brazil This would this would only be direct not not like nieces nephews. Uh, it says descents. So i'm guessing it's direct Okay, got it. And yeah, it only looks it only mapped up to the first thousand that they found Did it say somewhere here? Uh, I think when it was loading it said 1000 of 5000 or something like that I can't remember what the number was but it can only load a thousand dots at a time But uh, you can zoom in on the map and then it takes a while It'll just take a sec to redraw it and then you can sort of see the um The division or the vision and if you click on a specific one You'll actually get the person's name if it's a single person Um, you'll get the person's name and you can then click on showing wiki tree Which will open this profile If it's multiple people it'll show the list of profiles along the side There and then you can click on any of those so that's a very cool And then of course you so you can choose ancestors only descendants only just a nuclear family And if it's um, if it's a living if it's a wiki tree years idea up there then you can View your managed profiles So that's kind of a cool feature And you can turn things on and off by going into the layers So you can actually turn on where the cemeteries are various locations And for a person you can actually Color it by by century or by generation And limit it to that so there's lots of neat things you can do with this awesome Emile Fuller Is one that out actually has parents so we can show another App here that we couldn't for some of the others He came from a large family. He was born in 1581 Redmond hall Passed away at 16 in 1633 so early on in the colony of life in the colony His first wife was Alice Glasgow But That's all we know Her name was mentioned in the marriage of his second his second wife that record And Sadly his second so he had one child with his second wife That passed away After birth and then a few days later hit his second wife then also passed away So that's very sad Um, but then he remarried for a third time and this time it stuck I mean stuck. I mean She survived she survived him by many years in fact Um, what does what does this all say to us? When we should just stay away from men Yeah Yes, yes, I'm glad Julie has survived you so far. Oh man. Yes So and they got married in Holland because they were one of the ones that had gone to um last year's history lesson was all about how the puritans who were Um persecuted in England first of all escaped to Holland where there wasn't that persecution um, and then they decided to go to Go to the new world because England and Holland and the Netherlands had joined up to fight Spain and so Part of that agreement was the Netherlands had to evict the people that they had taken in But the church of England didn't like so these that's the puritans were that's why the puritans had to go to the new world Because they were the ones who just gave up on the church of England said there we can't we're not going to deal with them anymore um So they had got married in Holland in the Netherlands Set up shop in Plymouth And uh, it was the 1633 uh during an epidemic epidemic Um that he took Samuel He was because he he was the surgeon there And he was helping people out and then he eventually got afflicted with it himself. So that's very sad His wife however lent on to live for another Um, let's see. He passed away in 33. She didn't pass away until Wait a second Oh, no, okay. No, no, I feel like it should be playing the drum roll. Yeah There was one so yeah, there's one wife who there's one person who passed like outlived their husband by like 50 years or something. It was crazy Chris wine has a question. I'm on my cell today How do we add the relationships on top of the page again? Ah, that is that's an excellent question. Chris browser extension. It's in a brow It's the wiki tree browser extension. So if you install the wbe the wiki tree browser extension Then when you click on when you're up in the Up in the the you you URL bar up here the location bar. There'll be an icon and then you can turn on the relationships It's one of the options under Um Where is it here distance in relationship this option right here? You can turn that on or off I like to leave it on So that's how I get that notification up there The other one there that I use a lot that I really like is showing the family lists Which uh, I don't like that one Well, this is the one of the uh, no, where's it the Do you mean on the right hand side as opposed to I mean I like seeing the dna connections up there at the top of that Yeah sort team people that's sorry the one I was talking about is the one of the That the bottom the profile that sorts all the people you related to And puts them in alphabetical order Or in order you mean the the list like what what uh, this list. Yeah, that the list of the bottom Yeah, sort Yes, sort that Just this down here. Oops. Sorry. I just messed you up. There we go. Oh We're going there too. Okay. Yeah That list there. Yeah, so It's interesting actually all of these all of these profiles. They have really like single digit degrees from each other Wow I was like greg you're really close. No. Yeah. No. No, that's not a good profile This is sam and the tree app for sam that I was going to show is the ancestor lines explorer Because he has some ancestors which some none of the other many of the other profiles didn't have that is such an elegant uh Tree I like that. Yeah. Yeah. Um, it's a lot less busy than most of the apps that I do But you can then like you so you can um Collapse and expand any particular one. So if you again if you're if you are interested in a specific branch Then you can zoom in on that And just avoid all the other Noise or whatever, you know what I mean? So that's kind of neat, but it also has um lately they've added a lot more features up here other options So you can actually show Where the brick walls are this isn't one where I have more than one If you have a family where there's some Some duplication in your ancestry. So This will show If you hover over or click on one of them the second or third Appearance of the same person in the tree will be highlighted. So you can see Where they are. So that's a really neat feature You can show If if you've clicked off those checkboxes no more spouses no more children that can be Indicated on the bio check as well has now been integrated into this app. So you can use that as well So there's lots of really neat things and you can even if you're you know that someone's in this list Like if you have a really large pedigree That's expanded here and you can't find them quickly You can just type from the name up here and that'll zoom into where that person is so Lots of neat additions to it and again You can choose how many generations now this one goes up to 20. So Elizabeth fischer hopkins born in 50 85 and middle sex and she was again You don't see her parents because Their identity hasn't been conclusively exclusively established. So again, there's descriptions here. There's some rationale of where she Where she came from She's married to steven hopkins and a second wife Traveled with her two on the Mayflower And she was also one of the only four adult women who survived that first winter Let's see Seems like So and there's a list of her children and then she has Extensive research notes and again another mitral mitral chondrial dna connection And I've run out of tree apps and I'm running out of time. So Yeah, it's only 4 45 in the afternoon, Greg Remember maverick remember is their first name It's not a it's not a title and it's not an indication that you know, we should remember well, we should remember I'll vote remember Is she Yeah, I remember uh firmly ever allerton. Uh, so we do know her parents isaac allerton and mary norris She was born about 1615 in leiden uh, holland so Her parents had moved over to holland to escape the england and then they eventually came over to Um, plimith and she was born in holland. So she was only an infant. Well, not an infant, but she was younger a young girl um during the trip only five years old accompanied her parents and her siblings and uh, I love that they brought a servant boy with them john Yeah And then yes, yes servant boy two steers two she goats That's all fun. Um, her husband passed away um in 1686 And uh, there's seven children and again another dna note Of my mt dna Yeah, the um the mayflower project on the f t dna group project and and the wiki tree project are very integrated Which I think it's great. That is it's excellent. Yeah Um, then we have richard moore senior. Oh, I do have a cousin So I think this is the first cousin I found in the whole list of Um, and we go back because he has a french connection matilda de chatillon in 1224 Okay So captain richard moore. That's my eighth cousin to ralph neville and inry persie Okay Yeah, so again, he was a kid He was a he was a child when he arrived on the mayflower born in 1614. So we've only been about six six years old Um, would have celebrated his sixth birthday in the harbor Wow Do you think a kid back then would have been like I don't want to leave all my friends I don't want to go I don't know. Um, so there was some drama here and I won't go into it Um Because we were running at our time, but if you really intermation mother birth and his parents there was some drama there because of How his parents got together basically to solidify some inheritance from I guess his grandfather jasper moore And uh, his uh, his father is not the one who married his mother Anyways, there's some there was some nastiness there. And so he came over but not with his parents. He was Came over with um after the divorce and the aftermath of blah blah that all this drama um, he was put in care along with his siblings from his that um that first, uh union Uh to three men of really honest and religious people So he came over basically well, not as an orphan, but what would you call someone abandoned by their parents? Uh, uh, he was the first british home child. Yeah, really. He's the first british home child. Yeah very sad, um But anyways, he grew up. He became a captain himself like uh in the Think so Lipton Salem Uh Oh Maybe i'm thinking the wrong the wrong profile. It's also a tavern keeper Uh captain richard moore. No, he did become a captain. Yeah, he became a seaman and a ship captain He made trips to england and the west indies and then I guess became a tavern keeper afterwards So there we go. Whoever the chief family genealogy officer is it's 22 degrees Oh Wait temperature wise or to the Yeah Yeah, that's right Oh And the last one susan with susana winslow, um Which is bethy's closest. I've been waiting all morning to be able to say 13 Yes, it's just two stretches only one Yeah Only one change. That's amazing Wow Like is that So is it 13 generate like it would be about 13 generations to go that far back, wouldn't it like is it all sort of parent child That I I didn't look that close But I can't I mean how many generations that's kind of wild Um the origins and parents of her of susana were discovered and published in 2017 Um, so all sources and speculation prior to this ignore just Yeah, don't don't worry. Don't think about it. Um So that's kind of cool that they've sort of definitively figured out Where so you can see she has parents. Whoo um And then the whole section about the names and origins and the rationale that led to that discovery or that conclusion And then she um here she is married william white about 1614 And they traveled together on a Mayflower with her son. The son's name was resolved And the other thing is so her second son peregrine was born On the on the Mayflower when it was offshore. So it actually had already arrived But he was born based on the water. So he doesn't count as um Well peregrine technically didn't travel from He sort of traveled in you know, I know he was in the womb. He was there. Yeah I don't I would count it. You would count that. Yeah. So One of these profiles and now I can't remember which one it was. Um Was the last living uh Mayflower passenger Um one of the men and I can't remember which one it was now. Um And then it said in brackets not counting you don't count peregrine because he was born here He was on the Mayflower he was on the Mayflower. Yes, he was born on the Mayflower But yeah, so yeah, he was a passenger. He was a passenger. There you go. Anyways, so Uh anyways, Susanna herself passed away in 1654 And uh, there we go Resolved in peregrine very interesting names So there we go. Those are your profiles and some tree apps for added bonus. Wow I was the the app that I worked on during hacktoberfest is really really close and I was going to show it But I don't have time this so I will that was the hook That was the hook. Yeah, I'm gonna show you offstage. Yeah. No, I I'm fine I I've spent more more than my share time That's okay. Greg. We love you. Anyway Okay, people were really excited to see all the tree apps being used on those profiles. That was cool Yeah, well, there's so many and there's there's some that I couldn't use some that just because of because that The uh, they're focused on ancestry just didn't we didn't have enough ancestors to show some of those off and anyways Check that out another another time another time Let's see. I have mechs. Did we look at um, there was a photo of url Goal. Is that your dad? Yeah, did we look at that last time? No Oh I thought that was very fun, url Wait, that's grandpa max Um, did you put it you put it on the free space page? Yes, I did Yes, you did. So let me Let me go Yeah, okay. Well, let's look at this one first Over there. Yeah, so um, and I don't think this was In the g2g. So I don't know More about it, but we have I'll make it a little bigger grandpa max on Iowa So contributed by christine miller christine's not in the chat is she? I don't Yeah, okay all right and then Um, oops code Okay, and then Hopefully she was Oh, she was you have the very beginning We did see that one and that one we did. Yeah, faunty and this beautiful one Um kknights dog And The thought bubble the dog with thoughts snowflake There would be fighter pilot. That's it, right? That's it. Tell us about it You know, it's funny. I dad has no idea who the guy is in the middle Oh, that is my dad in the flight suit the baby the baby In the flight suit that's that's fletcher url golden jr. And that is major their dog The dog's name is major dad remembers major but has no idea who the guy is in the middle And that is on the running board of my grandfather's Ford pickup truck. Wow need Could it be a cousin? I don't recognize him as a cousin and dad was uh the oldest of the of his cousins so I love his little he looks so happy like Oh, yeah He looks so much like my sister. There's no doubt that my sister is my sister because they look just alike in this picture Yeah Isn't that adorable? It is everybody at that time because the little rascals Show um movies things that they did all the little rascals trailers that they did during movies Everybody had one of these um, what do you call it a terriers? Yeah Yeah That was major the terrier. I'm so glad you shared that. Yeah, that's really swirl url aw All right, and then uh Don't think we had I don't think we had anything new in the g2g I think I think that that was Or was there That that's right. Okay, so we had the These photos um, and this was posted by Was it chris wine? Am I correct chris wine? Who is with us in the chat? all right, so um She said that you don't see what you're looking at. I don't think oh, okay We're still looking at my cute dad. Yeah. Well, there we go. Okay, so chris chris posted this on g2g um about how she always made a point that the dogs Family dogs should be in the family photos because they were a part of the family And so she gave us two shots with two different dogs The first one being This one at the top Her dog tinta, which means black in hungarian And then the second one which I which I blew up There she is in the With her dog Begins with a w. What was it winnie winnie winnie wine I I don't know if that is chris's maiden name, but it would have been winnie wine if it was Yeah, that's fun very sweet All right, so those are photos. Um next week's theme. I don't know. Does anyone know what next week's theme is? Things that make you go Be getting a beginning of advent next week. Wait, wait, I can I can tell you Next week's theme is favorite photo That's a good one. Whatever your favorite photo is. Oh, wow That that we'll have some good variety there um This is our last saturday in november. Um, we didn't have any new activity on the g2g post for ancestors and so I thought that I had to I had to Find an ancestor. So I went to my anniversaries list I have talked about this lady before Maude lydia nickles parkhurst. She is the first cousin of my great one of my great-grandmothers And she um her death she died in november on the 29th And she's been especially on my mind because I just got a photo of her Yeah, I had to do quite a lot of are you seeing a group? Yeah I had to do quite a lot of research on maude because My mother and her aunt Just my aunt just called her aunt maude And they were like, oh, I don't know we think she was grandma's sister But I was like that can't be right because I'm that doesn't make sense. So I that was how I had to dig and dig and find out And who is she? She was my art. So the lady on the far right is my great-grandmother. Gotcha And maude is her her first cousin So that's why my mother and her my aunt called her aunt, you know, but she wasn't really an aunt Anyway, um, so when I was visiting with my my aunt just two weeks ago, um, she she said Look, there's maude. And so now I have a photo of maude. Now. I know what she looks like And um, these are my grandparents my grandmother's kind of hiding behind That's funny Photo bombing as it were My my grandfather's brother on the far right left And his his family so they look alike Yeah, they do Yeah, and her my great-grandmother's main name was menzy And this one the son on the left He his name was Eugene menzy McMurray, but everyone called him menzy menzy was his nickname Which is kind of a cool nickname. I think yeah, yeah so, um I will put up a new post for celebrate your ancestors in december and Bring those bring those ancestors in week. We always bring them on. Yeah, bring them on Okay, and tip of the week. Okay. So this is a collaborative effort With murray meloni Is in the chat here Murray is amazing He is okay there. Um So so the tip is to take advantage of The access keys that are a feature in the wiki tree browser extension And these are really really handy. So for instance right now you're seeing Uh a free space page now if I do I'm on a mac if I do control option G It takes me to recent activity on g2g That's amazing. Yeah, uh, let's see. Uh control option r Is going to take me to a random profile A random profile and r for me. I've got a totally different one when I tried that just now. It's short. Well, it's right Wow, I got a cousin. I've got my 24th cousin One more control option f is going to take me to the search field So if you're not on a wind on a mac machine, there must be a windows command for those of us on pc That's right. If you're on a pc you're going to use shift alt Plus whatever the the access letter is The letters are the same r shift alt g um, okay So let me let's talk through this. I have not memorized all of these access keys So um, so here you can see that they're all laid out for you on the wiki tree browser extension free space page But that can be sort of cumbersome to always jump back to that so What you're going to do is you are going to I would suggest I've already done this is to Copy and paste this into your notes feature of the browser extension So um, you can see up at the top of this page that you have these icons Okay, so this is clipboard the clipboard is where you want to put things that you Need to copy and paste a lot So maybe you're in the middle of a thaw and you've got a family with 15 children And you're just going to be copying that census back and forth and I would put that in my yeah Mm-hmm. Yeah Or or you're working on a one-name study and you need the sticker and you're yep But your notes are where you want to put things just, you know for reference So, um, I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to Go to my notes and you can see that I've Murray has given me this text And He has he has a an alphabetical list too, but I think to sort them by function is better So up at the top, he tells you what to do depending on whether you're a mac or pc user And then there are these navigational shortcuts managing information like if you want to Copy the link or copy the url Open or close notes Then this is while you're reading a person profile And then while you're editing a person profile Thank you Murray. Yeah. Now. I know you're all thinking Well, that's great for you Betsy because Murray gave you the text What about me? So what I did was I went to and I'm going to put this in the chat The tip of the week home Free space page. There it is And I copied I put the the text Right under today's today's tip Which is saving the access key cheat sheet until you memorize them all there will be a test this week Yeah So Murray is saying no no no no it's Ian be call show. He's responsible for wbe. I'm just the reporter Well, I think So I I went ahead and and you should be able to just go to this link and Literally highlight copy and then paste. I tested it it works So Have fun looking forward to it um Yay, can I I I I found the name david weinberg was the person who Worked on jamie's ancestor statistics and made it now generational statistics and added to all that Nice nice. I we had a question to come up during all of that While while we've been having our talk and the question is where is sarah? now um A lot of people don't know about this, but sarah has been put into uh wiki tree witness protection program She is she is living her best life and enjoying Old love but new love Her life and generally doesn't have time for us on saturday mornings recently. Okay, like Maybe so that's why she's in witness protection program Because greg and betsy and I have been trying to figure out how we could go and kidnap sarah From living her best life so that she has to come and hang out with us on saturday We wish sarah the best it's not like she's gone I'm sure that if we said sarah come in we need you she would be here in a heartbeat Like that it's just like uh, she's she's doing her thing So we're happy that sarah is doing her thing and that she is she is off So that's why she's not around just nothing's wrong. She's just Being sarah and having having a lot. I just she had a wonderful Thanksgiving with uh her boyfriend just yesterday I saw that they were having a good time. So that's where sarah is so there um And we have uh, I don't even have my stuff ready here I want to share my screen my window here. There we go So we do have social media that you can share for the upcoming week Uh, just go if you want to find it go up to find down to projects And when you're on the projects go to the ambassadors page, there's a social media Tab down there and you can go and you can find what's going on And like greg said if you want to find that's how I found the to post my picture Yeah, going down to the picture of the week the photos Yeah Next week it's going to be what? A favorite photo favorite photo. There we go Uh, celebrate your ancestors november. Um, I don't know if uh, she's had a time to update this cram cramblet Is the uh, oh look smith falls is the place study. Oh, that's right down the road for me But cramlets the name study so and then we will rock you coming up So if you want to help wiki tree share the spread the love Certainly grab that information You can go over to gdg and see what's happening around wiki tree the big events uh that we showed last week You can check that out the 17 challenge the week challenge 17 is the afro-american historical and genealogical society national I think that that ends coming up soon And then what's happening around wiki tree in november? Gosh, I got to upvote a-one for that is uh Weekend chat. Let's see. That's us right here. There we are the 24 sourcing sprints going on today. Um, and then Oh, that's we're not the weekend chat We we should be the weekend chat. Yeah, we're gonna Um, so saturday round up into the october. We will rock you. Uh, there's also other stuff going on the bio builders the canada canna the canada Connect project notable say that three times. I dare you uh military black heritage notables connectors jedi halloween at the england project. Anyway, there's other stuff going on and we will rock you stuff Which betsy's really involved in so check that information out and Do we have anything else that we needed to say or do or Well, I'll just say since you brought up rock. We're starting. Um, our fifth rock fifth In december and I am almost ready to announce the five people who have been selected To be rocked We we take nominations and then we randomly select five people but they do have to accept the opportunity Oh, we're gonna do your family whether you like it or So i'll be putting out a g2g post hopefully really soon Cool the next day or so cool. Well, if you are if you if you didn't fall asleep today We guarantee you will fall asleep next weekend. So come back and and uh spend your morning with us with your coffee and I didn't show you any any m&m's, but i've been having a few of those But we will see you next week same place same time and you guys have fun. Yeah, we'll see you soon weekend You guys have a great weekend