 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go Mind pump with your hosts Sal DiStefano Adam Schaefer and Justin Andrews in this episode of Mind pump. Yeah, we begin the episode by having some fun conversation. We talked about Adam's old school Playboy. Oh god, so embarrassing. He's a great collection hundreds Ordered it for all the articles Interviews in there we mentioned the late and great Hugh Hefner we talk about using a piece tinder for business Not sure why Sal's that's what he told his girl Somebody closed you hard on honey. I'm on here for business reasons. Also. I want to make me Sal I want to mention our sponsor Thrive Market comm. Oh love me some thrive You know what Thrive Market my girl just finally got on board She's finally on the Thrive Market train right now and just we were waiting on our first shipment We ordered last night, so I'm pretty excited. 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So you go to Thrive Market comm forward slash mine pump And then you'll get all of those awesome hookups and then we get into the questions The first question was as a new personal trainer. How can someone distinguish themselves? From other trainers Justin said grow mohawk or go shirtless. The next next question was There's a one of our Fans here has a girlfriend who's working out with a personal trainer and the trainer told her he actually gave her some advice and said Hey, don't do shrugs. Those are for boys only either. No shrugs Either get rid of the trainer or get rid of your girl. It's probably works at Planet Fitness. One of those two things shit next question was How much is too much? Exercise how much is too much the right dose? Yeah, you want to do the right amount of exercise because if you do too much you might get too buffed Which is just a little bit more than what I do like Justin Yeah, and the final question was happened. What do our pre-workout routines and warm-ups and rituals look like what in Fetamines are we using? Yeah, like all that stuff What do we do how much we poop all that stuff before we lift weights find out in this episode also? We do mention maps prime in this episode It is our correctional program and we combined it with prime pro We have something called the prime bundle So remember maps prime takes you through a self-assessment called the compass and it through that it teaches you Which movements and exercises you need to do for your body specifically for you to prime your body before your workouts? Because what you do before your workouts Makes a big difference with your results and it doesn't matter. What kind of workout you do It doesn't matter if you do CrossFit bodybuilding power lifting Even if you compete in a sporting event ping pong if you warm up your body properly with good Individualized programming You'll get a better workout and then we have prime pro prime pro is correctional Assess your body all the major joints wrists hands neck low back your ankles your feet Find out where there's problems and correct them So if you have pain or you have issues with certain exercises this bundle is perfect for you You can find this at mind pump media comm Adam you should read this book called irresistible talks about You should reference it more the addition to technology do the dishes didn't Technology are you reading me that from your from the book that you're finally reading it That's a great book for you by the way. It is can you please tell the author who wrote that book not be a dick? Um Megan Dottrie and the title of the book is do not be a dick. No, no how not oh how not to be a dick Such a dick thing to say to you, right? Yeah, say it wrong. Yeah Whatever read us a lesson from the book like he shunned it before even opened it Okay, when it comes to adult entertainment when you say you can find anything on the internet They mean it sometimes an innocent internet search turns up more than you bargained for now adult entertainment doesn't just show up by Accidents sometimes people really are interested in watching the birds and the bees online and that's okay The birds and the bees are completely natural, but we should also be careful not to bring our private viewing habits out in public Example so as a courtesy be sure to put away any sensitive materials in the following situations when you are out with friends Get off your phone when you're out at dinner get off your phone When you're in the movie theater get off your fucking phone when you're in a work meeting get off your phone When you are having a conversation get off your phone and end during and I know the answer to the next one We're important life moments like marrying the woman you love get off your phone get off your mom if you share a computer This is some good advice in here. I'm speaking of inappropriate How many times I told a story about the time I opened up my iPad to my oh, I thought I made up the word sexting I don't know no bitch copied me. You thought you made up that word, of course Which oh dude, I was saying that way before you would ever go. Can I tell you something right now? What? Back when phones were rotary. I came up with that term So I know I invented it. Yeah, that's sexting back then dude you sexting on the rotary phone. Yeah, so apparently it's inappropriate To look at porn in public in front of other people. Is that what she's saying hey? That's weird. Yeah Well mainly when you're just I don't want to live, you know It's funny. I was on plane one time this guy was like straight up like reading through a penthouse on the plane Yeah, it was like full bush and everything and I'm just penthouse or playboy because playboy has some really good articles No, no no no penthouse. That's why I said penthouse because it's like I mean it was like, you know Everything do you know that playboy is like known for their articles? Yeah, great. I've never read a single one But okay, I used to for a minute. They tried they tried to make it just that without the nudity What a bad move. Well, I was I feel like they added articles so that men would have an excuse to buy it You know I mean like brilliant marketing right look, honey There's stuff did I ever tell you I was it I was like I think for two maybe three years I was a playboy subscriber and I used to my whole house I remember this at your house is in your bathroom is on the coffee table talk about like a totally Suppressed, you know kid growing up like, you know, my you actually had like straight-up nudie magazines I had lit it on my coffee table by people over Your mom Justin brings and then I was like you my mom would come over and it was and I know it had to just piss her off Now and that's probably why that's right because your mom was super Yes, well it hints why I probably did it because I grew up in a very strict home and then imagine a 16 17 year old who had all this Had all these rules right to live by and then I 21 I have my own place. Yeah, it was on bro. Next thing, you know, you listen on you listen to Marilyn Manson. You're sacrificing goats And you're pouring up Pouring all over the frickin. Yes. Yes. That's crazy. All right. Yeah, did you? So obviously, you know, my we know that mine pump is there's no lying on the show, right? It's always honest. Wow, it's coming next the porn that you had around the house. Did you use them? Ever me mean what do you mean? Yeah, cuz I magazines. No, no, no, I believe I grabbed There's there's a there's a there's a purpose for them other than reading. Yeah, did you use there's no I didn't say did you finish on them? Okay? Did you use any of them at all the ones that were laying out in the house? Oh, that's sure. Duh. Dang. Yeah Even that's not a gross question. No, no, it's not that gross actually, right? It's not. Yeah Unfortunately, I kept I wish I would have saved all of these I was stuck in them I was keeping them and then I had boxes and I was like, what am I gonna do this finally when I moved it? Just like I gotta let it go. Yeah, it's also when was this by the way that you had all these 21 years old Oh, so how many years was that? Was there no internet porn back then not really. Oh, yeah So this was so this was actually a very bad little bit after Oregon Trail days That's Imagine Oregon Trail like 15 years ago. I mean internet exists existed But to to see at the rate you could flip through a magazine if you couldn't yeah That's you'd have to hit you click on the naked picture and it'd be like But what a bad investment right like all these expensive magazines were worth nothing five years later because well, that's not true With although today, they may be worse. Yeah. Yeah. No, no absolute If you have some of like the early early playboy subscription, there's like certain women on there Especially women that went on to do other things and become famous or whatever that I am like a Marilyn Monroe If you have like a old playboy with like these famous women that were when they made the cover or they were a centerfold Yeah, yeah, no, they hold their vow. They hold value for sure That's it I wish I would have kept them for those reasons because I'm sure somewhere in there is probably somebody who it's worth money now Which one was your favorite? Oh I love I had favorites definitely. I just don't remember. I wasn't that obsessed over it But I definitely had you know, I had my go-to five, right? There's no I mean you have hundreds of these things is like You had a hundred well figure a couple. Oh my god. I remember A hundred think about that let's see here you get 12 a year. So it probably two or three No, I didn't have that many kind of Mary ever did it. I feel like more than one a month It's only one a month, right one one. I had stacks of them. Maybe they had a longer than three years Maybe I had a longer than I thought I did and you threw them away Yeah, cuz it just I was lugging them around from house to house and shit. That was no good God, it's times have changed. It's a weird thing to bring to your girls house. It is remember I moved in with Katrina after I sold my house. You can't really justify it Which should be a wish you wouldn't let you take them. No, of course you would it wasn't even about that I got rid of it was just one more thing I had so much stuff and I had my house at 21, right? So you figure how many years is that like you know how much stuff you've well you didn't move all your shit You would have you would have seen like it's we had to leave it behind It's a blessing in disguise row you're lucky Minimalist There's a positive way to look at everything's over lining Yeah, the the the girl version of that never went very far, huh? Was it playgirl? Yeah, they had a playgirl didn't they who I thought they ever get like famous people to do that sure sure sure Fabio or somebody like that a character maybe Are they're famous? Oh, I know Sylvester Stallone did a porn. That's how you got started, right? I think Arnold posed in playgirl once naked. Did he I think he did I think he did that's a random Yeah, why don't you Google that Justin tell us about no Your phone sir, I don't want that in my Arnold like searches when you think about the direction we're going with all these cookies and stuff It's scary Like you can't even look up something that you're really not interested in because you may have it may follow you around ever forever Yeah, you look up play playgirl Like think about this your search history like it follows you from now on right and then we're gonna go like walk around like stores where it like Like like scans your eye your retinal scan and then it'll show things that you search for oh my god How scary dude? Oh, that's a that's a scary the future is gonna be hilarious Especially I can't wait for political elections when people are like you like butt plugs I mean like 30 40 years from now they're like, oh, so you're against this right well here We got some pictures of you on Facebook from you know 2017. Oh Everyone's good. Everyone's delete all history now everyone's gonna be And all honesty though the playboy They did they used to do some of the best interviews. Yeah, so they would they would like tell us about one One of my favorites I remember reading Charlie Charlie Sheen when I read the Charlie Sheen one What a great I mean you want I seriously I've seen Charlie Sheen on interviews One of the best ones I ever read was the one that that was done in playboy for sure So I'm sure I think who else they I mean they always do like old presidents They do like good big-name people Or normally in the articles because they're not nude or anything with that It's just a it's a great interview they do because they can talk about anything. Yeah, it's what it reminds me of before Howard Stern It was playboy like before Howard Stern Playboy was the people was the Magazine that would ask those questions that everybody wanted to hear but nobody would ask right? So that's what made him so what made it such a great magazine. Why are you banging so many hookers, right? Yeah, no in the Charlie Sheen interview they go they go they ask him like how many women has he been with and he talks about all that like yeah So it's the stuff that nobody really asked it like people are like and the stuff that everybody wants Yeah, everybody wants to ask that but CBS is not gonna ask that when they have Charlie Sheen on right? They're gonna be all PC about stuff. So and of course in the now, you know Hefner passed away. What an influential person. Wow. Yeah, very influential person in American media You know, I mean, do you guys know the amount of shit? He went through to make those magazines. There was an incredible documentary on him. Yeah For him and Larry Flint, right? Well, yeah, well Flint took it to a whole new level. He was crazy Yeah, yeah, but both of them had to get they got big. I mean the government went after them pretty it's pretty interesting There's a long history of like moral legislation that we've had where we don't like something and then we go after it Yeah, we try and shut it down music, you know You know rock rap, you know, they've been after for you know after them forever I know I don't see that happening so much anymore though. Yeah, now it's getting Another I think they gave up. I think once the internet No, they did I think when the internet looking for things to get mad. I mean you talk about this all time that there's Some of these businesses because of the internet uber is a great example of this That yeah, I'm sure if if government knew Where it was going to be they would have put a stop to it if they could have but it was too late Yeah, they had got too much power too fast was already there And I think that's what you see with like these porn sites and these call girl type sites because these are huge, right? These are huge you can you can order a prostitute to your house, but we know prostitution is illegal But on the internet you can find sites that are dedicated to this. How do they mask them? What are they just a escort? They're not even asked dude. It's like straight Yeah, I know it's it's pretty interesting to and I think I think what they do is they they host the site Somewhere else. I think that's the loophole, right like the sites I cuz so I watched I don't remember what it was was like a documentary or something on that something like that and apparently if you You can pay for an escort to go on a date And then if you happen hit it off and have sex that means you guys just liked each other And that's the angle that I this at least this documentary was talking about at least she gets a free meal So you're right I'm you're probably right because I'm trying to think like there's nothing on the website that says you're gonna get sex It definitely alludes to it since most of the girls are naked You know like I think the guy who's paying 250 bucks for the date thinks that there's probably something else That's going to happen based off the website. Although it's not that much different on Tinder nowadays. Anyway, that's what they say man I was we're out of the bizarre world. Yeah, fortunately. We were out of the Tinder generation We were hoping to get dug like started with that. Where was the day? We're really getting dug on Instagram My cousin was telling me that some people are using Tinder for business. Is this true no way Where you you I guess you put some stuff in your bio and then you get connected through people and promote your business He was telling me something about that's called LinkedIn dude. Yeah, exactly. Really. Yeah, it's the tender tender really for business They want to hook up. It's like a bait and switch thing. Hi, you thought I was gonna fuck you But really I had this great deal to offer you Yeah, I don't you like a waste trainer. I'm gonna look it up. Yeah, but what a weird like dating world, man So different Google Google tender for business. Let's see what it says. I'm looking it up right now Or maybe there's another app that came out. That's literally business tender. Oh shit If there isn't we should make it business tender. I like the sound as we have we have all this extra time to do Yeah, it doesn't say Networker there's a website called networker. Oh, that was way old. That's old might not even exist anymore. Yeah, I don't know It's pretty straight to the point. Yeah, maybe I was trying to trick you into tender Maybe someone was trying to trick you into using tender. I think that's what it was. Hey, Sal It's a great business idea try and just put your business on there like with your shirt off. Does anybody follow What's going on with snapchat? I'm not is it still on the rise? I'm so too old, dude Maybe Google that maybe is snapchat snapchat on there. Do I drew let's ask I'm just telling you it's like I know I'm getting old because Not only do I not know this stuff, but it what I don't want to know what I was I do I'm interested in this stuff. But what I was curious about was when Instagram made the move over to all the cool little You know weird things. What are those? What are those things? Oh, you're talking about snapchat filters? Yeah, they brought in. Yeah, I'm sure snapchat took a hit because of that They had to it right so it's oh here we go snapchat might be in terminal decline as Instagram and Facebook Especially steals its users snapchats dying and Facebook could be thing. That's what I saw the site that has reported now Didn't did Facebook? Try to buy snapchat. Yes, they did and they declined bad move. Yeah, right and for like the peak I have to you know, I'm how many millions who else fucked up like a billion or something billions Twitter and who else Turned down why someone tried to buy Twitter Yeah, Twitter tried to be then they went public and it was just like there was another one What was the other one that was that they that nobody got that could have got picked up by a lot? What was that one that we were using for a second periscope? That's connected to Twitter that was Twitter's Trying trying to come out with some some sort of a live feed so they could compete with Facebook in there They're just they're gonna get they're gonna get eaten alive man greed. That's dead This is where you just want to grab it so Facebook comes in offers to buy us We're gonna have to do it. Yeah, you got to go with it We might have to they're gonna have to replace us though some idiots I'm not a corporate man. I feel all this idiot I'm saying he was behind us. You can't find three idiots. You can't find three fine three We have it down we're a special kind of idiot Idiot chemistry down, that's right. Not just any old idiots. It's the molecules Bird Come save us first the word This clause brought to you by organify for those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition Organified fills the gap with laboratory tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health a performance the added edge Try organify totally risk-free for 60 days by going to organifi.com That's or gani fi.com and use a coupon code mine pump for 20% off at checkout All right, our first question is from southern lifter as a new personal trainer How can I distinguish myself from other trainer? Oh, wow? Here's here's what I would do I would do shirtless selfies in the air. Mm-hmm. Nobody does that and put a lax hard Make put the latest hip-hop music behind your hashtag beast mode some of your video workouts with lots of cuts Mm-hmm should probably get you there. I mean that sounds like the recipe next question, Doug So, you know, I'm just kidding when I when I worked with trainers This was always a question was like how do I stand out? Amongst the you know the group the other trainers that work in the gym or how do I get myself out there? And I used to always tell people to be True to their flavor. Okay, so what that means is I I know it sounds are you mint or I know I know this sounds kind of you know silly when I when people say like, you know be yourself But in fitness if you're in fitness, you're likely in fitness because you have a passion for it I don't know very many people They go into fitness industry because they're thinking to make tons of money Most people want to be trainers that they like working out and there's something there's a component of fitness That they really have the most passion about and there's a style that they have or a flavor that they have Around that and I always I used to always tell my trainers Maximize that be as you as you can possibly be and be unapologetic and that will distinguish you because You're never gonna you'll never be as good as you can be yourself being someone else or being something else Because you do see a lot of trainers who look to act like other people or copy different styles And you can definitely learn from other people, but you'll never be as good as you can be when you're then your own passion Yeah, the passion doesn't really come through as genuine and authentic that way You know it like you want to figure that out like figure that out amongst yourself like what? directions that you know excite you and and different modalities or different ways that You know to train the human body or like even if it's like dancing or you know something else That was a good move there. Sorry. Yeah, just one of those like activities that really excite you You know use that passion use that drive and bring it into your business because other people it's contagious Other people will see that and they'll be stoked on it and and you'll find a a core enough group that will get it And you can kind of expand from there. I think one of the best ways to distinguish yourself from the other trainers is Follow everything that we're putting out there. I think there's there's not a lot of trainers That are talking the way I feel we are I think we're seeing more of it now but to me the formula right now is the The the old the same formula it's been for so many years, which is this it's hype, right? It's the Motivation, you know, yeah, you got to get out and kill it and no days off and beast mode like that Is what like a majority of everybody and to I mean that's an extreme and then everything underneath like and then There's the you know super bubbly. Oh, you got to do it and be positive and all positive quality against the grain Yeah, so that is so that's white noise to me And it's becoming white noise to all the people out there that are seeking good information from good trainers And I and we laid out all these pros if you do not if you have not invested in the program So this is not like a a plug although it sounds like it If you're a trainer and you haven't been through all of our programs like there's your first step like if you're talking to the If you're speaking to the stuff that you learn in prime pro and prime There's not a lot of trainers that are talking to that and then you have the knowledge from like maps performance to teach all these Different multi-planar type movements and then you can also take somebody and put them in competitive shape and know how to target specific muscle groups to help shape and mold the body into the look That someone's before all that is provided in all this all the stuff that the spine of all that is there It's like you can definitely take it in a lot of different directions just in that Subject matter by itself, right? So we we thought of all these different types of groups, right? So I'm an athlete like where do I go? I'm somebody that wants to compete on stage. Where do I go? You know, I'm somebody just wants to get stronger. I'm somebody who wants to lose body fat Whatever somebody who's only going to train at home. Yeah. Yeah train home You know, you go through all those different Programs that we have outlined and then you see like where you could fit your niche into it You know off of that that bone structure. So it's definitely there if you if you're a trainer and I mean I would have just killed and I know I've said this and we've all said this before on the show I would have killed and this is what motivated us to do what we're doing to have a place with all the free Information and I'm telling you to get the programs But let's say you don't have the money to buy the programs right now whatever We have provided enough information on this podcast and on that YouTube channel and the blogs and our Instagram pages That if you are spouting out the information that we're providing for you guys You're already gonna start to separate yourself from everybody else because that's what that's a big reason why mine pump grew Is because we were giving delivering a different message than everybody else You know, we could have came out here and done the hype videos and have Taylor and drew video We could have just been you know fit T shred sling and you know, like Joe Jane fucking motivation Video people like we could have gone that route. Well, I'll see so early on in my career What separated me from the other trainers was different than what separated me later on in my career as I developed into a better trainer early on I wasn't very knowledgeable. I didn't have access to tons of great information. All I had was my certification and You know what I learned in the bodybuilding magazines But the way I distinguished myself was I was Very serious about what I did. I was very professional, right? I Showed I was there the client would walk in and I was there with my clipboard and my pen or my pencil And I greet them as they walked in Walk them to the locker room They'd come out and I'm ready to go and I was just I was on I was always on and I was very I took it very seriously and I don't mean I took it seriously in the sense that I was a serious Stringer, you just knew everybody's watching. I had a great time. We had a lot of fun, but my clients knew That I was not only serious about what I was doing But I was serious about getting better and better and better Later on what separated me from other trainers was because I did find My flavor as a personal trainer and I really enjoyed correctional Exercise and I really enjoyed working with people who are in a very deconditioned state or advanced age Population and it's just something I enjoyed doing. I enjoyed having people come in with pain Helping them identify, you know where it's coming from fixing it and then getting them into, you know consistent regular exercise getting them stronger. I so love getting my 60-year-old clients squatting and deadlifting and you know my 50-year-old clients who used to be in shape and now I fixed them You know help them out so their knee doesn't hurt anymore and I just you know, it just word spread that way and I got lots of Referrals as a result of that, but I've also had trainers work for me were very different, you know, I had one young lady who was Excellent at yoga. She was an excellent excellent yoga instructor But she was also a personal trainer and I had this exact conversation with her and I told her I said listen What you have that's different than everybody else in here is you understand yoga on a different level So you understand functional flexibility from a different position. Why don't you incorporate? Yoga with your training because it's something you love It's your passion and it's something you're good at and that's what she used to do She would train her clients and she would almost every workout Include some form of yoga positioning movement breathing whatever, you know whether she would go around the corner to where it was a little quieter or in the back or sometimes out on the Workout floor and people started seeking her out for those different types of things So, you know really just be who you are and be good at who you are Don't be good at what anyone else is right and continue to grow and don't be for and also here's another big one That it's a this a big mistake. You see with trainers a lot is that they feel like they need to have all the answers So if a client comes to them and says, you know, my shoulder hurts. I can't do that or you know You know, which supplements best for me or what's the best diet or whatever a lot of trainers feel like they have to have the answers Even if they don't know what the answers are so they'll give them like oh, you can you to do this or you do that? It's very valuable if you are a trainer that knows people who are experts in the different fields that you can send Your clients referrals. It's a it's a this will build your business A lot of trainers are scared to do this make you look like a champion. Yes. Yeah, cuz True like I remember going through that same thing and like you want to have all the answers figured out And you're like really insecure about that and then somebody will you know ask you inevitably at some point something You don't know so it instead of just kind of Trying to figure that out or like Google it or whatever like Surround yourself with people that are better than you dude have different things have people you can refer to Yeah, because and a lot of trainers are afraid of this because They think oh if I send them over to the chiropractor over here or the acupuncturist over there a massage therapist or the nutritionist They're gonna invest money there and they're gonna have less to invest with me false That's absolutely false if a person comes to you with a problem And you direct them in the right direction and you're working together with these other people to help them And then you solve that problem you have Dramatically increase your value as a personal trainer and now you've established yourself as somebody who does have the answers Maybe don't you know that the specific answer, but you know the people that do this was huge for me as a trainer later on I also think that almost every gym I've ever been in There is always the the trainer or this one trainer that just stands out among among everybody else And if this fits your personality, I think this works really well this fit my personality I'm already allowed an outgoing person and so when I train my clients kind of like what Sal said I'm extremely engaged and not just from a professional level of having my clipboard and everything all set up but more So like I'm never sitting still while they're exercising I'm constantly evaluating their movement and moving their their shoulders and you know touching their body So they can feel like oh, I want you to feel this here and slow down this and I'm I am Making every movement that they do extremely detailed and and I'm loud while I'm doing it So I'm motivating them. I'm talking to them I'm like and when you are moving like that with your clients the entire time it creates this energy Between you and the client and then also you draw the attention of everybody else in the gym if you're the one who's loud talking and moving and pointing out all the stuff with your client and Everybody is in the gym working out you'll draw this attention from the entire facility and we've said this before in a podcast the average client Will shop a trainer for three months before they make a purchase So the minute you walk in that door you're on you got to be on so You know if you're the one who walks over and sits down at the desk and doesn't do shit or Doesn't really talk to people like you can't be that minute. I walk in the door I'd come over I set my bag and keys down and I'm coming over and with lots of energy I'm saying hi to my front desk and coming over saying hi to all my employees that I'm out on the floor And I'm talking to people and people see this and when you are consistent with it you become the guy Even when I was a trainer The gym was my gym. I treated it like it was mine like this is my place Nobody touches as many members as I do nobody helps as many people as I do. I'm the guy that's known all the equipment Right. That's right. Tell you all over the equipment equipment that always works too. Yeah So if you if you treat it like that like you don't have to say it's my gym But if you become the guy who is helping everybody and talking to everybody in full of energy Man, especially if that fits into your your personality Now if you're somebody who's really shy and kind of quiet and that's really coming out of your comfort zone That might be something that's challenging for you But that fit right into my personality And so I just played right into a strength And I I tend to see this whenever I walk into a gym There always is that one guy or girl who just seems to be the trainer, you know that everybody comes to for help Next question is from do flash His girl's personal trainer told her that shrugs are only for guys What can she replace them with? This is your fault. So, you know, it's my favorite part of this question It's your favorite Yeah, I know You know, my favorite part of this question is it's for girls is yeah She does don't do shrugs because that's for guys It's gonna make you look like a dude So replace them in other words, don't work out your traps with shrugs work them out with a different exercise How's that making it any different? You know what I'm saying? I think it's saying don't do shrugs at all Yeah, but then what can she replace them? There are no exercises for guys and girls. Um, yeah, that's that is a weird thing It's very it's ridiculous and it's silly. You understand the fear, right? I do you get what's going on I do like I think that the trainers think, you know telling her You don't want to get big traps. You want to be like a linebacker because they look masculine You know how long it takes to build Big muscles for a guy let alone for a girl It takes a long long time. It takes a lot of dedicated training It takes really good nutrition and even then and great great great genetics and even then it doesn't happen overnight So it's not like you do shrugs and then you wake up the next day and you look like brock lesnar It's you sure awesome. I know I wish Can you imagine that it's like it's like you do you do you work out you exercise you look in the mirror and you say, okay my delts Are starting to overpower the rest of my body or my quads overpower my hamstrings or whatever Then you can scale it Back and change it but from a from a functional standpoint the motion of you know shrugging the shoulders and you know Rotating the scapula out that way. That's a fundamental movement You can do that with a lot of different exercises, but to avoid a movement because you're afraid of You know looking a particular way You got to be careful doing that because then you you run into a lot of problems you can run to a lot of functional problems and a lot of Issues with movement and create some injuries for yourself Yeah, I think if this has always been sort of my problem with the aesthetic side of training You start to run into a lot of these like concerns, you know, especially, you know from female concerns With just functional movements that like you said that like we're just expressing movement that's natural for the joint to go through and the muscles to experience and now all of a sudden i'm worried about Affecting like a certain part of your body that you know, obviously could use to be stimulated But we're worried about it You know getting grown to the fact where it's going to make their look look a certain way and I don't know I just don't get it like it's not it's not uh, I mean from I take that back on some level just because from from my wife like I remember Having her train with somebody else and like I was guilty of like Uh, I remember with one of my friends Jerry was training her and he had like massive biceps You know and so his whole thing was like arms and so he was just always working her arms like crazy I was like bro calm down with the arms. It's like get some let's get some ass in there Yeah, let's focus a little bit on the important things. Yeah, and uh, and then I was just like I gotta stay out of it You know and he started to kind of get it. He's like, okay, I'm just gonna work You know everything like he was very very focused on the arms for some reason but uh, yeah, but I mean Yeah, like I said, it's not uh, this isn't really my my wheelhouse as far as like somebody's concerned with that Well, the first thing that I would do is a Fire your girl's personal trainer just for the simple fact of saying that an exercise is for a guy or girl Like instantly that should be a red that should be a flag Instantly if a trainer is like that's for guys. That's for girls He's either from 1960 and doesn't know any better or he's a young trainer and is still learning and still knows better So I would invest my money elsewhere just from that statement alone now that being said If you don't want to do shrugs and it's just your your maybe you already have massive traps as a woman And she's scared to build them anymore because it's already a dominant Uh muscle on her body. Well, then go do something else then pick anything pick an exercise That's not related to the traps that she may want to focus on so maybe her glutes like jesson was just alluding to Go do some, you know grow some kickbacks go do some You know, uh, maybe do some walking lunges Maybe do some farmer carries, but then you can hit some traps when you do that So, you know, it's you can do whatever you want instead if you don't want to do the traps It's not like that. So that is a a manly exercise and we're in search of an exercise It's less manly But I guess if you had someone who has very dominant traps already And you don't want to work them out then don't work them out then skip that You know and either go home early walk on the treadmill do some ab stuff Do almost anything else that you want to do Besides that they're they're programmed in there for a reason because we believe that most people Should do that and should stay balanced and whether you're a male or you're female, but Uh, absolutely you can do almost anything. It's funny to me how exercises will come in and out of fashion For both men and women for example when I first started lifting weights Uh, it was not in fashion for men to do lunges lunges used to be a girl exercise back in the day They were a girl exercise until and now men are wearing tights. Yeah Until uh, I don't remember what bodybuilder was doing lunges heavy lunges. I want to say It was right around ronnie colman is ronnie colman ronnie walking ronnie colman is the only one I can at least picture right now that used to do in the black and yellow tights that he used to wear But do you guys remember that? Yes, who did lunges women? No, no before that. Yeah It was only women right? Yeah, you didn't see a guy ever do a lunge a walking lunge. No, it was for girls It's really changed in squats barbell squats Used to be a male a male exercise like women wouldn't go near a barbell squat And now a barbell squat. I see more women doing barbell squats than men and deadlifts right and deadlifts Right. I see more deadlifts for sure donkey kickbacks. Yeah If you're doing this, you know, I mean, yeah, well, how about how about Here's a movement that used to be you would never see a man do a hip thrust. You'd never see hip thrust until until what's the Brett And now you've got a lot because now you got dudes out there bragging about fucking 500 pound hip thrust Exercises or exercises effective ones are effective ones Are the are they all right for you? No, it depends on the individual There's no such thing as a male or female exercise when it comes to work now. There's nothing Next question is from ander beth. How much is too much exercise? Oh, wow, that's a tough answer. You know, this is funny because I think what they're asking is How how do I know if i'm overtraining? But the way I look at this question is let's all say it together It depends. Oh, you guys weren't with me there. No, sorry. I think when I read this exercise what I think is Uh, any amount of exercise that is more than is needed to elicit the desired result At that point think of it this way if I if I if I'm working out what you just said When you're working out the goal is to send a signal to your body to adapt Once that signal is sent once my body gets it and now it's going to get stronger or build a particular muscle or improve function or something like that Any successive exercise and movements afterwards I start to get diminishing returns to the point where now the negatives outweigh the positives in the sense that I am now Impeating my body's ability to adapt and recover because I'm putting more stress and load on it So now I'm at the point where more exercise is not only not helping It's actually taking away from my progress. Now what determines if it's too much or not There's so many fucking variables If like Justin said it largely depends on the individual if I take someone who's deconditioned off the streets and I have them do Three sets of body weight squats with good form full range of motion for 10 reps that may be too much That's probably it or more. I might even be too much It might be too much it might be too much if I take them even further I remember as a personal trainer used to shock me Uh, I would get a client and I would do You know, I remember they would teach us in class right like, okay You know go real easy with your new clients and you just have no gauge Especially as a new trainer you have no idea how deconditioned people are So people would come in and and I would just go light I'd go really light and we would do You know four or five exercises for when we should talk about like the signs like that because obviously as trainers over the years We got better about picking up on like What they look like what they're experiencing what they're feeling, you know how to breath their eyes as a trainer As I got better. I would always err on the side of less I would always go I would rather do too little Then too much because then I can always ramp it up the next time I saw you keep them coming back In the consistency is really the the key there and especially in the beginning. It's it's crazy Well, let's talk about an individual who's trying to assess himself. I mean, here's here's the deal I still make this mistake to this day I still do too much exercise and pay for it And the best way in my opinion to tell is the next day When you are so sore that it's limiting your movement You went too hard. That's your fucking answer right there Like you should not if you are if you first of all soreness is a sign of overtraining Somewhere along the lines. We turned it into this. It's a badge of honor It follows a good workout. That is not true If you are really sore you did more than you needed to do to elicit that change So I'm wanting I'm wanting to be right on that edge. Like I want to feel my workout So there is a little bit right like I want to feel it like I don't want to I don't want to do some Otherwise, it'd be just like walking around right so I am flirting with that line And that's why I tend to overdo it right because I'm constantly flirting with that line But this will happen to me today today. I'll go back to squats Today and I haven't squatted in over a week. This is when it's always hardest Right, this is the hardest time for me to judge. I know kind of where I was at a few weeks ago when I was in a rhythm I've been off for a week. I'm coming back and I know me I always tend to overdo this because I want to you know, that's my first day back I want to feel like a good workout. I want to get a good sweat in I want to feel like I get it And if anything, this is when I tend to overdo it So I have gotten better at this like this workout does not need to look at look like a A full maps workout right now. I don't need that like just easing myself into it So what it'll probably look like I'll probably do two maybe three sets Of squats on the real light in probably eight to ten reps And that might be my workout today like that may be it Maybe I touched some auxiliary stuff just a little bit and I'll call it a day Because I know that that I haven't done anything for over a week And I've been pretty sedentary with flying around and sitting and interviewing people thinking right now Some people I guarantee you are thinking You mean what do you mean? That's all you're gonna do. You can't do more. That's not the point It's not the plan. You can't do more. Can you go in the gym and go for three hours? You can always do more. Yeah, you could that's see that's the problem Is I think people think when they leave because I hear this all the time they leave they're working on like I feel like I could have done more. That's not the point The point isn't to do as much as you possibly can the point is to do What is the appropriate amount to get your body to change and if you're if you're a beginner or decondition It doesn't take much if you're advanced and super conditioned It takes a little bit more and by advance. I don't even like using advance. I feel like if you've been consistent, right? That's what I mean by so because I consider myself an advanced lifter But you're gonna see me do a weak-ass workout today. I'm an advanced lifter I can fucking get with the best of um pull some serious weight squad some serious way do all this shit But and to handle a lot of volume and the amount of volume. I was handling when I was Competing was ridiculous. I won't come even close to that even if I was consistent for the next two to three weeks I still wouldn't even be close to the amount of volume. I was doing when I was competing because it's not necessary I could get there in the next week or two, but it doesn't make sense now. What would happen. This is now. This is a good one Yeah, what would you think it's not? Yes. I'll tell you what would happen What would happen if I were to come out and know the in mere the workouts I was doing when I was competing like right now right because it's not necessary But then let's say you did well this week I might see some decent gains although I'll probably be really sore and it's gonna end up hindering a lot of my workouts But I will force my body in adaptation It will force it to adapt and change because what I'm doing to it But then it'll plateau really quick and then now I have to take my body to a whole another level To reach that same level of soreness that I was chasing for no reason So the body will respond. I mean I could hammer the shit out of you. Why your joints are gonna screen at you You just can't look at it and you can't look at this exercise in in Single days or even one week snapshots. It's really like you got to take an aerial view and I'll tell you what overdoing it is This is this might be controversial, but I'll stand behind it Doing too much is worse than doing Doing a little too much is worse than doing a little too little Oh, I would agree with that if you if you do if if you err on the side of less It gives you room to improve increase add more feel your body out and you always kind of do the right There's always tomorrow for that so counter-intuitive to the culture. Uh-huh. It's completely kind It's really and that's and I think that took probably the longest in this group for me to really get to that point where it It just resonated, you know And it once once I let that simple fact alone kind of Dictate what I was going to be doing into the gym. It just changed. It was a game changer Like everything changed after that. Yeah, what happened to me And I learned this a long time ago But what would happen to me is if I took time off from illness or injury And I went back to the gym. I wanted to get back to where I was fast, right? Yeah, so I would go in and go hard and get super sore And then slowly it would take but I would it would suck and it would hurt and all that stuff Later on as I got more wise when I would take a layoff I'd come back and always of course if you take time off to go back to the gym in your weaker When I'd go back to the gym I cut it way back and go easier and I would get stronger very fast Much faster than when I overdid it Much faster. So not only is too much exercise a lot of time And you know kind of waste a lot of time and energy in the gym. It's counter productive your body will actually Respond worse Because your your body is now dealing with an excessive amount of damage An excessive amount of stress and it will prioritize that over adaptation. It's just looking to heal It's not going to think about adapting versus doing the appropriate amount Now your body heals a little bit and then adapts and adapts and adapts Well, think about this from the way we we've structured all the programs to maximize muscle building, right? So if you the goal is I'm I'm hitting the same muscle every two to three days So if I'm on if I'm you know Monday I like let's say today I squat and then two days later I want to be doing some leg exercises again And if I if I hit it hard, I mean how many of you've done this before where you've lifted And three days later four days later five days later, you still feel that workout You're not wanting to hit legs You're still sore and then will you tell you're like in how many times have you walked in the gym with your Buddy or your girlfriend and it's like hey, what are you training? Oh, I'm I'm still sore from Monday's leg So let's do some shoulders and arms or this or that and that's how people do this It's like no that's a sign that you're overdoing it You shouldn't feel that way what you should feel like is maybe afterwards you feel the next day Oh, I definitely worked out my legs a little bit. But you know what if I wanted to I could get them again right now Well, that's the pure reason why I think splits are still popular right because it's like That mentality is still attached to it. If I just blasted my legs I do not want to do legs again, you know the next day or you know and like add in this full body workout Like it's just not sound appealing or even working the full body. It's like what I'm going to blast my whole body that day Right, but that's not the mentality that we're talking about Next question is from Scotland 360. What are your pre-workout routines food Warm-ups and what time do you work out? uh, all right, I'll go first so I work out early in the morning Um, it usually around 5 30 or 6 a.m. So I get up at 5. I'll go. I'll walk the whole routine here I'll get up at 5 and if I'm going to have A stimulant before my workout that day because I don't always then I will have um some chimera coffee Sometimes I will mix in um, some butter and some coconut oil like old school bulletproof although lately I've been putting Ghee in there, which is delicious. I don't know if you guys have you guys put ghee in your coffee yet? I have yeah Oh my it's you got to blend it really good though because otherwise you get that like that oil thing on the top But I bought the the ghee from Thrive Market. Um, and that's the one I've been using lately and it tastes amazing The the real quick the reason why I like ghee Is because it doesn't have because even butter has a little bit of milk protein in it and I have an intolerance to milk Protein so butter is okay, but ghee is much better. It's a cleaner source Um, and I know it's got some some health benefits. So I'll have some of that Then I go poop. Um, I do that you got to do your pre-workout poop. We're really we're really breaking the out of this routine here Then I go and then I go in my garage and I do My mobility work. So I have a couple broomsticks Um, and depending what I'm working on I'll do some shoulder dislocates. Um, I'll do some kind of a rotational movement with tension I'll get into some lunge positions with tension So I can get my hips to open up all of which are in prime or prime All yeah, I'll get into a a squat with a band around my knees. So I have to pull my knees apart So I do all my mobility work And then I do my workout. Um, and then after that I just go upstairs get my kids up and get them ready for school Justin yeah, so similar so mine's not in the morning mine is Um, usually after we're done here and I'll go back and go work out Sometimes with my wife sometimes by myself um, but uh Sitting has affected me quite a bit like so if we're here like right now I'm doing a podcast and I'm sitting I really need to open up my hip flexors And so that a lot of my priming it consists around that and opening up my hips in the 90 90 as well Um, and also a bunch of hip flexor stretches Um and ankle mobility. So ankle mobility has been really huge for me. Um, you know going into To back loaded squats front squats anything Um, do you have coffee before work out? I have coffee. Um Yes twice a day actually so I do I do in the morning and typically I'll do it Like like bulletproof style in the morning and then um, you know before the workout I'll just do just a black coffee Um, you know like an hour beforehand something like that. So um the timing of it's pretty good I'm usually pretty energetic, uh right after we're done working But then it's like if I wait after that hour window, uh, then my workout goes to shit So I really try and hustle into the gym after that and work on those those drills and in stuff that we do in prime to To make sure that you know my my mechanics and everything are on point In the workout and even especially now like getting back into like the compound lifts again I'm I'm taking extra time Extra time on the priming To make sure that uh, everything goes well Do you you don't feel like tired because I would I can imagine you you leave here and then you drive over the hill Yeah, and that's a pain in the ass. Yeah, and then do you go straight to the gym or go home first? I go straight to the gym. Oh, okay. Yeah, and I meet my wife there and then oh, okay And then the kids are you know, so that's the good part about having a gym like that Because once you go home, it's like if I go home, it's like yeah, it's that's like I've tried before to where I'll do kettlebell and outdoor routines at my house and then that started to get distracting Um, and it was ineffective and so I I brought it back into the gym environment I don't have much of a routine right now and And honestly, I'm really enjoying this and I remember expressing this to the guys not that long ago Um, when I was like, man, I'm I'm so over the being the bodybuilding guy And having like the the food weighed out and measured and carrying everything I was wondering when you get to this point. Yeah I mean, I ran at it for a good solid life three plus years Maybe more when you think about when I first started all the way till, you know, not that long ago Uh, so and you know and I knew going into it like what I was doing So I don't think I ever got really out of control with it Um, because there was a purpose behind all of it and it wasn't something that I found myself addicted to or a slave to But you can start to feel that way When you get into some of these routines and I know some and I know the question This person's like just looking for cool tips of like some of the things that have helped us get in a routine But for me on the opposite because we all love exercise. We all love this and and really quick Uh, can become very neurotic about all these things that we do and I'm actually really exercising the opposite of that Which is I'll get into get my workout around now or maybe not maybe I'll get it tomorrow or maybe I'll do it Uh early today or you know what later on this afternoon? I got this to handle or maybe I'll do a night workout Or you know what? Maybe I'll just do a couple trigger sessions at home. I am literally Not very consistent with anything now what I am doing though when I am lifting There is some things that I have that have entered my root in my nutrition and workout routine that is Maybe a little bit different than what it was a year ago Um ever since we got sponsored by Organifi Uh, I've started drinking the green juice and that's been something that I've consistently Added into my routine. It's just I feel great when I'm drinking it. I like to have it Maybe a hour or so before I do workout So if that works out where I happen to be drinking it and then I plan to work out an hour I really like the way I feel Heading into my workout and then I live in prime uh and prime pro a lot which for me is Heavily focused on the 90 90 and all the progression So I'm trying to work on something right now where it's the and I don't know if we did a video for this yet because I know I Justin or I couldn't do it But I have this 90 90 transition that I'm working on that I use the stick and Uh, I'm transitioning back from one side of the other side on the 90 90 position And then the ankle and then rear foot lift. Do you do this at home? I did that with the brink. Did we progress that? Do you do that at home or do you go to the gym to do that? I do both so you showed me that though. That's great. Yeah, did you see me with this? You just showed me we didn't video it, but you showed me what you do with it. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense Yeah, it really helps. Um, especially since I can't do it without bracing myself right now So I'm working on that's kind of like a like personal goal of mine Like I really want to get good at the 99 in south to your answer question Like I do I always do it before working out. That's just the staple move I feel like out of all the things that we do Um, I would say the 90 90 since a lot of my issues who are similar to what you are limited to the hips and stuff that has been a game changer for me to to spend most of my time in the 90 90, so I spend my Uh priming session a lot in that and then maybe some, um Our rotations what's a our lizard with rotations Probably those two moves are the most popular things I do and then I address some of my thoracic mobility with some of my wall back presses And things like that and then I get into my workout and my workout is totally inconsistent right now I am not following any of our maps programs to a T I'm pulling from all of the programs based off of what I feel like for the day Um, and I'm just kind of treating my workouts right now. I don't have any serious heavy goals Um, which I and I know me like after a while like I'll want that, you know after I but right now There's a lot of personal goals I have going on like with my relationship with the business that we're currently in with personal growth and reading Like so those things are kind of a priority in my life right now and exercise is probably exercise and training Is probably a five or six for me right now and For a long time it was number one and everybody else kind of had to take a back burner to me when I was competing Man to get to the the level that I reached It took a lot of dedication a lot of these rituals a lot of focus Uh very selfish and putting everybody else and everything else on the back burner and right now I've kind of flipped that on its head. It's not as high of a priority for me as long as I'm taking care of myself You guys don't like working down the morning, right? Not at all. No, I did in high school and college and we're all part of the six a.m. Workout crew, you know, and so I'm over it Yeah, fuck that it takes a long time to get used to and I still Don't like it as much as working out in the afternoon. I love I'd rather my my best workout time is like Noon that's what I used to do around noon. That's how I would have a clock Noon to two has always been that was my favorite because I'd have a break in between clients and I'd go at noon and I'd lift and Do my thing and it's just not possible now So I have to do in the morning and I'm used to it, but it's not it's just not the same, dude Yeah, it sucks as you get up early and you just feel stiff and Cold and tired thing that weren't yeah, it just takes a while to get everything running, you know properly So I like late night workouts too. You guys ever do that where you're working out at like nine ten o'clock at night I actually I like it except for I can't sleep. Yeah That's just gonna say the pump and everything feels great at that time I love to train at night if I don't have to go to bed like if I don't have to go to bed that night It's like this is one of those nights where I can stay up late I don't have to be up early the next morning like I'll train I like training night But not unless that because I feel wide awake and fueled by the evening time That's the problem then the problem is I can't sleep But yeah mornings It's gotta it has to be that way for me because then I have the kids and I gotta take them to school And then we go here and they go pick them up and yeah, it's just thinking to happen another one Go to youtube subscribe to mind pump tv check out the video. We just posted fire This one crazy. It's this one. Also if you go to mindpumpmedia.com 30 days of coaching It's available for free and it's for everyone. Check it out. 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