 Welcome back to the Wizards Forum 2023. I'm now delighted to be joined by Dr. Zava Zava. And you've been involved with the Wizards Forum from, well, we won't go back all that time, but quite a while. How has it evolved to where we are today? Well, I think we have seen growth and great success in the implementation from 2003 when actually the Wizards process was launched. And it was related at that time with the MDGs and progressed it to be associated with the Sustainable Development Goals. So we have made quite some progress. So when you talk about progress, what do you mean? Tell me about that. Well, we measure progress by measuring the information society. And our statistics indicate that the world is moved progressively in the right direction in making sure that digital is the center of everything that we do. All the 17 Sustainable Development Goals are supported by digital. And as you look around, you've been here for the last few days wandering around the forum. What's your thoughts? My thoughts are that we should have more of this, because we bring multi-stakeholders. And the World Summit on the Information Society is a place where people gather, exchange views, and practices, which is a great thing for us to do. Including the private sector, of course, the driving engine to development. And I know there's a lot of push, because you have only a few years to get these action lines turned into reality. Well, the United Nations Secretary General calls it rescuing the Sustainable Development Goals. We believe that now with the progress that we are making and connecting the world in a meaningful, affordable way, we are going to accelerate the implementation, of course, of the SDGs. And as we are moving forward, we think we will make some great progress. We just came from Doha for the Listed Developed Countries conference by the UN. And we have seen that even the Listed Developed Countries are making great progress. 16 of them are now about to graduate from the group, which is a good sign. Considering you've been with the process since 2003, what makes you most proud when it comes to Wizards? I think we have seen Wizards growing. Even COVID-19 could not kill it. So we see that it is a resilience. And this is great. And it has become very active and engaging with civil society, with the private sector industry, academia, and member states. So we have a shared vision. And that is something that will serve us particularly as we move on to achieving the 23rd agenda. Fantastic. Well, thanks very much, Dr. Zava Zava. Thank you. Thank you for having me.