 Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the May 7 2023 new member zoom Q&A. We are going to, well, I'm Betsy co. And with me co hosting I have Hillary Gadsby from from Wales. And I'm in Chicago. I've been on wiki tree for almost I sign the honor code I just was counting this morning. It was almost four years ago. But like many people it took me some time to I got overwhelmed I stepped away I came back. And I've been very active for the last two and a half years. Hi, and I belong to the England project Scotland, Wales, Canada. Those are my geographical research projects and I also belong to mentors and leaders projects. There you want to introduce yourself. Yeah, I've been on wiki tree for, well, it will be 12, 12 years later on this year when I get my anniversary. And I am a project coordinator in for both the England and Wales projects. I'm also a member of greeters I've been a member of greeters for a long time I was greeting back in 2014 although I did take a break for a bit so not quite continuously since then. And I am also one of the mentors as well. Wonderful. And so we're going to we have we're delighted to have you Barbara Melanie and Murray. And before we started recording, Barbara and I were already chatting a little bit about her profiles and some of the things she's running into. So is it okay if I screen share the Colin your Jacob Collins profile. Sure. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. There we go. All right, does everybody see Jacob Collins. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do know the other children of Jacob and Anne, but I have simply not added them yet as I, as I mentioned earlier in our discussion. I, I, I'm not comfortable yet using wiki tree. And so I haven't provided all the information I have, but I do know all the children of Jacob Collins and Anne Morris and I know, and father. But, but as we discussed before, some of the other people may be joined us. I do not know Jacob's parents, even though some people have identified parents, but I'm, I'm not convinced I want to see where that information came from. Of course, of course, absolutely. And there's a part you won't see it in every wiki tree profile, but you'll see it in many a section called research notes. And I can show you a model profile like that. And that's a section to address exactly what you're talking about, where you can lay out your, your evidence and say but on the other hand, this is what some other people are saying. And, and then you can sign it effectively there's a there's a way with four till these I can put that in the chat to show you what I mean, where it shows that, you know, you, you Barbara are saying this, you know, on this date and time so that you know people can, can connect things. Is everybody familiar with the four till these. So maybe I can't get to the chat quickly. Hillary could you put the four till these in the chat so that people see what they look like. It's in the upper left hand corner of your keyboard. So that's that's a wiki markup element. So when you're in edit mode would you would enter your, your research notes, then put those four little till days. And when you save it will come come up as, as your signature. Hillary do you, could you, you're, you're very well versed in GEDCOM imports. Could you talk a little bit about that. Yeah. The main way of cleaning up imports, a lot of people import from ancestry I did myself and a lot of people have imported over the years. And they don't, they don't they import in various different ways and somebody has created and created an app, which is nicknamed AGC. So sort of like an automatic GEDCOM cleaner. But if so if you hear the term AGC around that's what it is. It's now incorporated in the wiki tree browser, which is what we call an extension which, you know, I use the Chrome browser I don't know what browser you're using there are you using today. I'm on Chrome. You're on Chrome as well. Yeah. But it also works on things like Firefox and for those people that use Max and or iPads I think there is there are other ones that if that they are in process of developing although they may not or it may not work on everything. If you certainly if you use a PC and you use either either a Chrome or a Firefox browser you can use the wiki tree extension, the browser extension and that's quite useful. I could show you how to clean up this pro this profile. I'm quite happy to demonstrate it. If, if, if the person who's the wiki the profile manager is happy for me to do that. Barbara, would that be okay with you. Yes, that's fine. Thank you. I'd appreciate it. I can demonstrate how to do it and then at least it shows and you can do this. And, and if you're not happy how it does help converts it when it first converts it you can actually restore it back to what it was before if you haven't made any changes on it. So, if you're happy for me to screen share instead of you Betsy. Go ahead take over. Yeah. Just find the screen. And, and while Hillary has has the screen. I'm going to look up the help pages for some of the things that she's mentioning like the wiki tree browser extension and the automatic jet come clean up the AGC. Right. So, if I'm on the profile now if I go into edit. Right. And then I scroll down. At the moment, all you see are the standard icons above the biography section here. But I've got the browser extension installed so I've got a little what looks like the wiki tree icon up in my top of the browser here. And if I press that. It will show this extra icon AGC icon. And this is what I use. This is what you need to show on a profile in order to be able to clean it up. So if I press that AGC will see how it what it does. Ah, something's been changed on this. So if something's been changed some sometimes you can you can still do use it. But quite often it won't change them if it's found that there's a there's something's been changed. So it didn't like the fact that perhaps something can the how it been written is was not a GEDCOM import. If that happens and it's only you've only made a minor change. I'll go to the over because it's not done anything. I can just go out of edit and it won't do do anything. So if I just go to the changes tab here. So you can see what changes. So you've actually made a few changes. So unless you really want to go back to how it was when you first import it, which I won't do because it's not my profile. You can go back to what it says imported the data you can go back to the original and you can still use the AGC then on it provided you can go back to when it was first imported. Yeah, it was it was important before I started working with it. Yeah, you look it looks like it was imported by somebody that joined in that that uploaded it in 2011 which was probably around about the same sort of time I imported my GEDCOM I must admit. So it's, you know, it changes have been made to it. So I don't want you to lose changes if they might be useful changes so I won't I won't touch it. But if you if you wanted to you could just go back to where what it says imported the data this these things here like imported the data and then added and things like that. You can actually see if I will do I'll go to imported the data I'm not change anything. But this is how it was when it when it was first imported how it appeared when it was first imported. And it's you can scroll down and see all the fields. Then you can go to the next change and you can go through and you can actually view in that changes tab any changes that have been made to the profile. So if somebody else made a change to one of your profiles and you weren't sure what the change was you could go back and go look through the changes and and and see see what it is that's been changed. And if it's something if it's something it might be something helpful. It should hopefully be something helpful, but occasionally people make changes and that and you know that person better than they do and they perhaps change something that they shouldn't have done but you can actually revert back to any previous time. So, so that's the last time it was changed but if I wanted to remove some of the things that I put on there because I put on the wrong things maybe I could just go back and revert it back to what it was on on the on the previous time it had been changed on the 11th of April rather than the change that was made on the 15th. So it's a useful thing to know about that because say occasionally it just saves you from doing a doing a lot that happened to remove a lot of things or edit a lot of things, you know, you can actually go back to a previous version of something. The only time you can't do that is if profiles be merged because it creates a new profile. So you can't go back to what it was prior to the merge. I'll stop sharing. I think, I think I may have merged recently because it was a duplication. There were, there were two Jacob Collins is the same, the same person. Yeah, so it may not, it may not. This is, this is one of these things that at times when using that app will not, will not help be helpful but it's, it's, it's useful to know about these things if you've, particularly if you've imported a lot or you're dealing with profiles that somebody else has imported and nobody touched it since it was imported. It's, it's something that you can tidy up without having to do major changes and you can see whether it does, it'll put things into the nice format for you. Great. Thank you. Murray question. Oh, you're muted. Hillary, I wonder if you could go back to that profile and cut out the offending line and then try to run AGC because it's not going to save anyway until you actually try to save it. But maybe if you took out that offending line that it was troubled by the AGC might run. There's been quite a few changes made on that thing so I, I, I tend to have a look through the profile if it's one of mine that I've amended, I will look through, I will take out anything like there might be sources that are being added and things like that that might be quite useful quite often I will take out the source citations and things so that I can then go and work on it. It isn't mine I'm not happy that I'm going to work on somebody else's profile and I might take something out that's important and not realize it's cleared. But I'll, we can probably see if we can find it another one that we might be able to do it on and then I can demonstrate it again. It might be easier. I'll have a look see if I can find anything else in that GEDCOM that might be useful. In the meantime, I found an example of research notes. So, let me take the screen back and. Okay. That down there. Okay, so hopefully everybody can see Harriet Nichols. Yes. Great. And so this was a profile I was working on a couple of weeks ago. And so this is what it looks like the biography, and then the research notes would go between the biography and the sources. And you can see, you know, I'm just explaining why I believe that she died. Before a certain date. And then here at the end of my explanation, you'll see the result, those four little still days. That's my profile. And then the date and the time that I wrote it. And so if we go into, I'll show you what that looks like in edit mode. Here, it's very simple to create research notes. You just do two equal signs, research notes to equal signs, and then you you put in your, what you have to say, and, and that's that's it. And when you go and you make your, you do changing you have to say well what did you do, there is a an option to say, I made research notes. There are like multiple things that you did. Does that does that help everybody with with research notes. That's what I would do with with what you've been seeing between your, your conclusions and researchers conclusions. Okay. Yeah, go ahead. Another one in that same. I think it was one of the one of the children is his profiles not being touched at all since it was imported. So I could show how to use the AGC on on that one. Great. Okay. I take over. Yeah. Right. So this is this. This is one of the sons. This is Walter one of the sons. So his profile. So when you go to the changes tab, you can see that all we've got is where it's been imported. So we can, we can safely go and work on this one knowing that no changes being made since it was imported. Right. Because I'd already used the browser before it's it's showing it straight away I think it's if you haven't haven't been using it but because I've been using it since I started this session. It's already showing up on there for me. I press the button. Right. It's changed it. It's put references and things that based on what was in there. Now, if this was a more if this was an older profile, just having a family tree would not be considered to be a reasonable thing as a thing and it puts a notice it's automatically put research notes in there. So there's things that need to be checked. So often all it's putting all it puts in there is if it changes the the name because quite often when these GEDCOM and ports like this one. Originally it had water W in in the in the whole of the the proper first name where we should only really have the water in there and we should have the W in the the middle name. But there are countries that don't have middle names that they have said that they don't as such. So if you're working in that area, you need to make sure that you have the the the things set properly in the extension that you use using to clean it up. But for if you're working in in countries where they do have middle names and you don't need to worry about that. But if it if it doesn't show and it's not doing that it could just be that something's not set right up. It's set up right on the extension for you. So, so it's cleaned it up quite nicely. It's now telling us a bit better and it's automatically adds acknowledgments at the bottom so that if somebody's looking for this GEDCOM they know what the profiles that were created by this GEDCOM it's still got the GEDCOM there on the bottom. You can actually do turn that that so that it doesn't do that so that it removes it altogether but I know some people that are working on the summit clean up some of the GEDCOMs quite like to have that on there so that they can see and see how people were originally connected because it can be quite useful for them. So all and what it also does is it automatically tell puts an explanation in there that you've reformatted it using the extension. So what I shall do because it's because this is multiple names found and it it was it that's the only thing that's come up. I know that I'm happy with that so because it's a US one and won't be somebody that's not using middle names. So I can delete that text. And if there's anything else that you want to delete you can, you're not happy with you can delete it or you find better sources that you want to put in, then that's, that's, that's fine. But actually, actually, yeah. Walter, Walter Collins changed his name to John Jones. And so when he died and and Arkansas. He was John Jones. All right. So you'd be at now and now I've cleaned it up. You've got your research notes on this you could add to your research notes in and I'll leave it blank. I'll leave the research notes section in there for you and you can you can do the alterations that you need to. Okay, actually, actually, I, I was going to make changes when I when I work on the Jacob Collins tree. I just haven't done that yet. I realized that there was a reference to Walter Collins. But as I said, I just have not been knowledgeable enough to know how to handle some of these things. Yeah, yeah. But anyway, that one's cleaned up now. So and hopefully that will help other people as well. That that that might want to have a go at cleaning up some of these profiles and that you can always, if you've not made any changes, you can always just reverse it by pressing the red cross and it will automatically. But if you if you've made an edit to it, it'll come up and it say you can't you can't undo it. And, you know, you lose if you undo it, you'll lose it and it won't it. So this there's quite often this this is quite useful this this warnings it always lets you know that, you know, if you didn't change it, then it's you're going to lose what you've done if you hadn't made any if all you've done is press the button and you hadn't changed anything house, you can undo it and it and it go it'll go back to what it was on the GEDCOM and you can return without saving anything and that and it won't it won't matter. But so this is since this is actually improving the layout of the of the profile will leave it leave it as it is and will save and it's already saved as draft. So was will full save it now. I had difficulty figuring out how to. I, I think it must be a parent. When I merged. Jacob Collins, the two individuals, but I had difficulty merging. The instructions same simple, but I don't know how many attempts I made before it actually happened. Can you see where the merge was done and what I saw that I saw the merge on your contribution list. Anyway, I guess it would be in Jacob's changes list right. Yeah. There are sometimes when you're doing a merge sometimes you have to do it in particular order to clear if you're merging more than one person that sort of. If the if you're merging sort of two sets of parents and the children and children as well. Sometimes you have to do it and I think you have to do it in a particular order and which is why sometimes it won't let you do it. You know, like if so, so say you will you were merging Jacob and Anne and say there were duplicates of the children as well. You would you probably couldn't merge. There is an order that you need to do it in and I think it maybe you have to do that. I think it may be that you have to do the parents first before you do the children, but it's a long time since I've done anything like that. So but I know I've had when I've had issues it's usually because you're trying to merge. Other members of the family and they have to be done in a particular order. Well, I was only trying to merge Jacob. I hadn't made an effort to merge anyone else, but I it was clear that there was a duplicate Jacob. And I sent a message to someone to ask for help and I never got an answer, but eventually the merge for Jacob worked. And so I, I haven't really done anything since then. That's that's where I'm talking about where where I merged. And if if somebody else is a manager of the other profile, they need to approve it. And if they don't approve it, there's a time period. I think it's something like a month or something like that. And then and then you can still go then you can actually go ahead and do the merge if they if they haven't responded within a month. So that it could be that you couldn't do it one day, but you've done it later on. And it could just be that that time period is as past so that it would let you do it. Okay, I I didn't think that that whoever had submitted the information the information on the earlier Jacob that I was trying to merge. I didn't think that they were still active. I maybe I made a mistake. No, it's possible. And that's why I think that's partially why we have got a time thing on it so that it gives if somebody's away it gives them a chance to respond and agree or disagree. And if they're not active, then having a like a one month time period means that the person who wants to do the merge is not having to wait for is not having it can actually go ahead and do the merger at some point. So, right. Stephen had a good question. A good question. I'm wondering why some profiles have research notes and others didn't. And I noticed Hillary, that when you did the AGC process, it automatically added research notes, and I didn't I didn't know it did that, but of course not all profiles need research notes. I think when it's not a GEDCOM cleanup sort of thing, you would have to add them manually. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. I have I use a I use a like a clipboard manager on my browser. And I have a thing set up so that I've because I use research notes quite a bit that just automatically set I just copy type in a couple of letters and it automatically put types of research notes in for me. But yeah, and the AGC will only do it on profiles where there is something that it needs you to have a look at where you need you to review. Like if you if you think if it thinks the marriage that record on information is not marriage information for that particular person maybe the parents quite often. Or something like that it will put a notes in there or things that have come from a that have been imported that it couldn't import like media and things like that. Anything that there's any query on AGC will put it in a research in the research notes so that you so you don't lose the information, but it will delete certain things that we know are not useful to the profile. But there's not much it deletes a lot of the time it's just reformatting what's there. Right, really, it's I appreciate that it's conservative so that review and then make sure that it's something we want or not. So yes I think Steven the reason it's a check mark in the field of changes is just that it's common enough that you know, that's why it's an option. I don't think it is an auto merge I think it just means that you or somebody else can go and merge the profile after a month because I've proposed merges before now and then forgotten all about them. And then somebody and then I've a message that somebody asked somebody else has come along and done them a bit completed the merge so if that's wondering whether it's auto merge I don't think it does automatically merge things once you propose them somebody has to actually go ahead and do it. Barbara, have you actually created some profiles, just from scratch. Actually, anything I've submitted, I have, I have input manually, I have not imported anything because partly because I don't know how. Right. If I go back, let me go back to. Go back to Jacob Collins. Right. I'm just trying to see, think what would be helpful for people, because you had mentioned Barbara that you weren't completely comfortable with adding some of the other relationships, like the children. Yes, I can add that. Yeah. Do we want to look at how to do that or is it that you're not comfortable with it. I don't know how to enter. Okay information. I just don't know how to do a number of the other things I, I know how to enter the information but that's about as much as I do know. Okay. Well, do you want to ask us some of those other questions. Like next next steps. Yes, based on what we had discussed about the things that I have looked for to try to identify Jacob's parents, or to, to find out how whoever it was who has passed Jacob to mainland Collins, where they got that information. So I'm, I'm at a brick wall as to what to do next to try to identify Jacob's parents. I just have received information from a researcher in Wayne County, Iowa, where he died, and where I know who's buried and all that information. And she has indicated that she's looked at newspapers. She's looked, she's been to the courthouse. She's done the things that I would do if I were there. I don't come up with anything. Her suggestion, which I have not yet pursued is that Wayne County, well, Lionville, where he lived last is right on the state line between Iowa and Missouri. And he suggested that I check with adjacent counties in Missouri to see if there might be something there. And I know that's a possibility. For example, his second marriage, which I had not really been aware of for a long time, was not in Iowa, but in Putnam County, Missouri, just across the state line. So it's possible that there's information in Missouri that is not available in Wayne County, but I've done everything I know to do in Wayne County. I'm not sure where to go next other than to look in Missouri. It's really smart to, I mean, remember, I mean, state boundaries, even country boundaries when we're in Europe, they're artificial constructs and our ancestors, you know, they just operated in a reasonable radius. So, yeah, I think looking in Missouri would be, could be very fruitful for you. Have you found him in the censuses? Because he would surely he would be in the 1850 and on censuses. Oh, oh, yes. I have all the censuses that would, so that I know for sure that's the correct Jacob Collins. I have previous censuses, which I think is the correct Jacob Collins. The problem is that it's a fairly common name. And in 1840, and I haven't really worked on it for a couple of days, so it's not really uppermost on my mind right now. What I did most recently was try to identify somebody in an earlier senses, where I know that that's my Jacob, who might be his parents and pursue that. Right. But, but I haven't made any real progress. Well, I'm thinking in 1840, he would have been 38 and probably head of a household, he would no longer be within his parents. Right. Right. Well, he and Anne were married in 1821. Okay, yes. So we're looking at very early sense records and trying to match someone as a possibility to see if they stay together in subsequent sense of the senses is because they were in the information all the census records that indicate a birthplace for Jacob indicate that he was born in Virginia and was born in Pennsylvania and those census records that show that information are fairly consistent. Right. But then from, from Virginia, then they're in Guernsey County, he and Anne were married in Guernsey County. The children, most of the children were born, maybe even all were born in Guernsey County, then in 1850, he was in, they were in Illinois, and then after that they were in Iowa. And so the problem is that we're looking at very early census records, so that we don't have any information that would indicate who parents and children were much before 1850, which identifies everybody. Of course, yeah. Would it be okay, could we right now look for some of those census records and put them on his profile. Like, maybe, maybe I could look for them in 1882. I'm 1880 1880 census. Yeah. So, so I'm just going to go under on the right hand side you see you have this research section. And I'm just going to search for Jacob, it fills in automatically, all of the information that you know is already there in the wiki tree profile. And I'm going to go to family search, because you know it's a it's a free free website so anything we find there doesn't have a paywall. And let's see what we find. There's an 1818 60 senses for a Jacob born in the Virgin Islands. It's probably not correct. But what about this one. 1870 senses born in Virginia, wait was it Virginia is that correct Virginia. Yeah. Okay, and they're living in Clinton Township, Iowa. Yes. Okay, so let's have a look. All right and let's really have a look. His wife's name was Anna did you say. Yes, and okay. We've got an enumerator with fancy script here. Collins okay there he is line 27. Jacob Collins 67 and 70 farmer. She was keeping house. She was born in Virginia she was born in Pennsylvania. Yeah. So that's them correct. Yes, that's that. Okay, great. So what we're going to do is go back to back to here and to cite this record. It's already this is another reason why I like family search. All I have to do is click this button. And it's copied to my clipboard. May I put this on Jacob's profile. Is that okay. Yes, but would you show me again how you went from where we were to family search. Of course yes. Thank you. Yes. All right here I am back at Jacob's call profile. Okay, on the right hand side, scroll down until you see research. And I clicked on that. And then it took me to a page that looks like this root search. And then I went down I clicked on family search. Okay. And then it took me to. Okay, I'm with you thank you. Cool. So if I go back here. And I edit. So what you what you may wish to do. I don't think we should mess around with the inline citations this morning so let's just put it right well put it maybe after that one showing that it was a created through an import. Put an asterisk which is going to create a bullet point. And now just copy. So, I can preview and see what that will look like. Under sources. And then here is the one that I said oh let's preserve that sort of towards the top. And then here's this the census. And so and it's hyperlinked. So anyone visiting Jacob's profile can click on that and go see. Yes. Yeah. Now there's something else I noticed I'm going to save this so we've added a source. And now we can do a full say. I noticed when we were over on family search that he has a profile here have you have you looked at his profile. Yes, you have 12 sources. So. Oh and there's his marriage record. Yeah, I've got his marriage record. Great, but you would want to you would want to get that over to wiki tree in the list of sources. Especially if you're going to, especially if you're going to create a case in the research notes of, you know, linking him to certain parents or not, you want his sources to be visible to everybody I understand that you have them. But you want everybody to be able to see. Yes, and I, I haven't, I haven't gone that far. Right, right. And great this is this is them right. August 25, 1821. So just to show another example, if we wanted to. Do you have a profile for and as well. Yes. Okay, so we could just take this citation copy. Go back to Jacobs profile. And I always like to do my sources chronologically so I'm going to put it above the 1870 census. And there's the marriage record. So when I go back. I'm going to add a source. Now we see the marriage and the census. And, you know, while I have that in my clipboard, I may I add that to Ann's profile as well. Sure. Okay, so. Oh. Okay. Yeah. Do you have. The one with the with the link with the correct marriage date. And that's the earlier one that was the one that was imported because it's still got the GEDCOM. The way the way the GEDCOM has imported it on that one. The other one I think was might have been newly created more recently created. Okay. So the other one. Okay. So you do have. You do have duplicates. Okay. I hadn't. I hadn't noticed that one. Yeah. Well, okay. Are you your profile manager for both. So that's life very easy. Yeah. So you can. Merge them and keep what she can. They can be merged and she can keep what she wants. Right. Exactly. Exactly. So you can go ahead. And. Where is the. So you would initiate a merge. And it'll give you a side by side comparison. So that is Hillary said, you can, you know. What you need from both. And it will end up, it always works in with three, that you go to the, the, the lower number. So the other number was something like. 17,773. So the new profile ID for Anne will definitely be 1531. So. Well, either way, nothing will get lost. So I will go ahead and. And just add the marriage. I was really being on the ball. I would have added that census for her too, but. Oh, actually, you know what? I will. I want to show you something. So there's the marriage. And I'm going to go back. Jacob. And back to the 18, here's the 1870 census. And we, the family search citation was for him. Now, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. If we just reuse that because. It would get the person to the right entry and they would see, oh, yes, there's Anne. But to really be proper. It would be nice to have a citation for the same record. For Anne. So that's how, when you have a census that is good for multiple people, it's good to click on that specific person in family search to get the record. So you see now we have this entry that says, and Collins in the entry for Jacob Collins. So I'll copy that. Now I'll go back to her wiki tree profile. And add that in. So I added sources. And the, the asterisk is what creates the, the little bullet point. So. Questions. Yes, Steven, Steven said some, I've sometimes found 1950 census. And of course that's hot off the press for genealogists without a citation. So yeah, I think linking a URL. Is probably the best. Best way to go. Melanie, I know you wanted to listen, listen along, but you said you had lots of questions. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, did you come. Come to mind as you've been listening. No. It's, I mean, I'm getting where I understand what you guys are doing. What she and you guys are doing. Good. Good. Yeah. You know, my, my way of learning. Was I watched the Saturday morning roundup. And a big part of those is, is sort of showing off profiles. And that's how I learned a lot. In addition to doing the sort of training trails for England and Scotland, those were also a big, big help. Hillary, what was the Rayburn twin 1027. That, that was one that Barbara's created from scratch herself. Oh, okay. Yeah. I meant to just, I shared it with everybody, but I just thought if you weren't looking for a profile that Barbara had actually created rather than one that was an import. Okay. So the tools, just since we have a few minutes left, just and Stephen was bringing up the sorcerer tool. Let me just talk about those. So you can see on my screen. I have these little icons up at the top. The one that is orange that looks like the wiki. Pro logo is the wiki tree browser extension. And I put the, the help page for that in the, in the chat a while ago. And it's just a, it's, it's hard to describe what wiki tree browser extension does in a few sentences because it's so powerful. Remember, I think this was before we started talking Barbara, I said, Oh, you and I are cousins. Do you remember that? Yes. I remember it. Well, right. So if I go to you, you see this, this box of course I'm logged in as me. So the system is saying me relating to you that we are 11th cousins once removed. And, and where, where did that box come from? That's a result of using the wiki tree browser extension. Yeah. So if we, if we wanted to see more specifically, it does give our most recent common ancestor. But if we wanted to find our connection, no, that's not going to do it. Okay. Under connection to me. It gives the path. So every time it changes color, that's through a marriage. So, well, yeah. And some of these names. I mean, I, I haven't done any research back in, in the Bartlett's or, or the Burt's, but that's because they're there. Let's see Catherine Birch was married to one of my Perkins. And so that, that's the power of wiki tree is that because of all these interconnections, it's going to, you know, take you even farther back. The other thing you can do if I go back. You can look at our relationship, which might look a little different. Yeah. I mean, well, certainly visually it looks different, but that gives the actual pathway of how you get to. Our common, our recent, most recent common ancestor and how I get there. So that's amazing. I didn't know any of that. So that's a, that alone is a good reason it's a fun. And the other thing that you see in my, in my little extension bar is this number one. And that's called sorcerer. Let's see. I think I could show you very quickly. If I went back to. Jake. No, it's not going to like that. I went back to Jacob. And I know there's a find a grave. Oh, it's already there. Okay. For a find a grave. Hillary, does this look that. That looks like a wiki tree approved way to format a print find a grave. Just quickly. I think, I think there's a, there used to be a thing in that with a thing to a particular. Doesn't look quite. Let me try that. See if I can try the link. Yeah, I was just looking for a quick example. So, so, so if I went back to roots web. And now let me search for Jacob on ancestry. You know, and sometimes, sometimes there are things on. And fine, free, free site. Well, I'm just, I'm just going to. All right, so 1880. That's not him married to Eliza. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Right. Do this one. We're not going to follow it through. But if I go to this eight. And this is the same record. But if I wanted to get it from ancestry. I'm on this page. I just click on my one. And say. Build an inline citation or build a source citation. The inline citation is when it's integrated within a biography, sort of footnote style. But the source, source citation is the one where it's with the bullet points created by the asterisks. Just click on that. And it's, it's created. And if I, if I cut in, if I pasted it into his, his profile, it would, it would be perfectly formatted. I wouldn't even have to put in the asterisks. So very, very handy tool. Oh, thank you, Hillary for putting, I was just going to say, I didn't. Didn't do that. What do you mean exactly, Steven, get the extensions from. Oh, you mean to find them? Yes. So what Steven's talking about is. Up here. Under find. Go to apps. And then you'll be able to get a lot of the, I mean, I would just explore. Here's wiki tree sourcer. I think that's the one that's been in the browser extension. Thank you to browser extension. I can't remember. What else did we talk about today? A Gc. Would that be on there? No. I think it's incorporated in the browser extension now. So it's not a separate one, but it used to be a separate plant. I think Rob included it in with the browser extension. And so it just gets automatically updated with that. Right. Right. Great. So, I hope we've helped everyone. I will very, very helpful, and I very much appreciate it. I've learned a lot. I'm not sure how much I can retain, but it was very helpful and I appreciate it. Oh, well, our pleasure. And I will put in the chat the link. This is a really good page to check in with. This is the free space page for these sessions. And so if you miss the G2G post and you're wondering, hey, when's the next one? All that information is there, the zoom links, as well as I put it, just my cheat sheet for wiki markup, which a lot of wiki triggers have a cheat sheet. This is my version of it. And feel free to let it help you. I do tip of the week on Saturday, the Saturday roundup livecast. So there's also a link to a page listing all the tips, just sort of little hacks to get around wiki tree. If somebody was asking for about that in the England project, the only yesterday, I think so I might actually share it with them. Yes, yeah, please. Well, it came out of last month's, last Sunday session, last month, remember somebody said, you should do that with timestamps and everything. There are some, there are some on the help page, but maybe not everything. So, Well, thanks, Steven. And this is recorded. And then how would I access that so I could save the recording. Sure. Well, it's going to get uploaded to wiki trees YouTube channel. So, are you subscribed to the YouTube channel. Not, not really. Okay, let me let me. Do you use YouTube at all. I have access to a few times, yes. Okay, all right, great. So, you'll find so much information under the wiki tree channel. Here's, here's how you find us. And if you just, you know, get the notifications. You'll be alerted when the video goes up. I also link to the YouTube videos, once it's all set to go on the, the free space page, the new member q amp a via zoom free space page. So, I'm just going to sign, I'm going to stop recording I'm going to thank everyone for coming today and and to thank you to those of you who are watching us later. And we will be back next month the first Thursday and first Sunday of June with with more more q amp a. Thanks everyone. Thank you.