 Welcome to the Global Symposium for Regulators 2023 here in Shamal Sheikh, Egypt, where I've got the great pleasure of being joining the studio today by Anzoud Hewitt, who's the Director-General of the Office of Utilities Regulation in Jamaica. Anzoud, welcome to the studio. Thank you. Now, I'd like to start off by talking a little bit about the regulation challenges, perhaps it's called it that way, but also opportunities in Jamaica. And also, Thanks again. Your presence here at the Global Symposium for Regulators, how important it is for you to be here. After these years of operating virtually, so that is welcome. This forum provides us with a good opportunity for getting a sense of what is being done by our counterparts in other parts of the world, as well as being very critical to us. It helps us with regard to our networking, and it also gives us an opportunity to say the things that are important to us and also how those, the intersection between the things that are important to us and to others. So for all those reasons, it is a wonderful opportunity to be here. In terms of Jamaica, and I'm from the Office of Utilities Regulation, which is a multi-sector regulator, we have responsibilities for water, electricity, and telecommunications. So the matter of cooperation and coordinating, not just among ICT entities, but across sectors is very important to us. So the focus this year at GSR, we find to be particularly useful and relevant to who you are. Let's talk particularly about the focus here at GSR and why it's of particular importance to you. Right. So as I understand it, there is an emphasis this year on the matter of cross-sector collaboration. We have found that convergence operates in the ICT space, and traditional entities and sub-sectors have merged. But I think that we're realizing that that is not just limited to the ICT space. There is a spread to other sectors as well. So for example, it seems to me that the matter of data and security and all of that cuts across all the sectors. There has long been a tradition of sharing between the electricity and the ICT sector. A good example of that is the matter of pole sharing, you know, lines running across the street where you collaborate or you have common facilities and ducts and so on. That has become even more critical. With the emergence of smart meters, for example, we're dealing with the same set of customers across all the utilities. And it's very important to collaborate, but it also provides opportunity, I suppose, for the entities to share costs and hopefully pass on those reductions to rate bills. So we're very interested in that. So this focus on collaboration across sector we think is very relevant to what is happening in other countries and also in Jamaica. And to the extent that this GSR is focusing on that, we're very pleased. And we're looking forward to see what we learn from this and how we can enhance that kind of collaboration in a country like Jamaica where we think it can only be beneficial to us. I just wanted to ask you what you hope will be the key outcomes or the takeaways when you go back to Jamaica having been here for this conference? This morning, we had the meetings of regional associations. I'm also part of the, there is a regional association in the Caribbean, OKR, Organization of Caribbean Utilities Regulators. And I happen to be on the executive committee, that's particularly. So we and the issues that emerged this morning again, there is this matter of what we call revenue share or sharing. And in a country like Jamaica and also in other Caribbean countries, the matter of how you mobilize the kind of investment that are necessary to enhance your network to take us into 5G, which we don't yet have. No country in OKR really have the deployment of 5G as yet. Now the entities are complaining that they are going to be constrained to deploy 5G because a lot of the revenue that would be earned from that are going to over the top operators. So we have to find a viable model. I am keen to see what progress we make in terms of coming up with solutions to that problem. And these are problems that you hope that the market will solve. But I think that as regulators and policy makers, we do have the opportunity to kind of shape the directions in which markets sometimes go. And so it can't be a zero sum game. We have to figure a way for all the entities to make some kind of return on investment. So that because there is no, I can't see what would be the benefit to the large over the top operators if we don't have an enhancement of the networks. So we have to figure out how that is going to be financed. It's just an economic decision that has to be made. And I think we are hoping that the discussion at the GSR progress that and we see it all way to some kind of viable solution. Thank you very much for joining us in the studio today. It's been great to hear your insights on your particular perspective, of course for your region, but of course for the conference itself. And hopefully we'll get to catch up with you again very soon in the near future. Thanks for the opportunity. That's great. Thanks a lot of discussion. Cheers. Thank you. And thank you very much indeed for watching. We'll be doing more of these interviews over the course of the Global Symposium for Regulators 2023. So do tune into our ITU YouTube channel. And also this conversation will also be out as a podcast as well. Listen to us on SoundCloud or Spotify or wherever you get your podcast from. So thank you very much indeed. And we look forward to catching up with you again very soon too. Thank you.