 coverage day 34 of the war here in Israel. As we speak in Doha, a trilateral meeting that might change the course of the war, C.I.H. Moussanti and the Emir of Qatar, reportedly discussing the pending potential hostage release deal ahead of an expected trip of the Emir of Qatar to Egypt tomorrow. It's a deal likely to see some sort of a pause in the ground operation in the Gaza Strip. But until that happens, IDF forces are encircling the general headquarters of Hamas' wedding to take control. And we want to begin this broadcast by heading down south, I-24 News correspondent Robert Swift, standing by there with the I-24 News team, of course. Robert, thank you for joining us. We'll yet again, a humanitarian corridor, yet again aid trucks of humanitarian content arriving at the Rafa crossing and a telegram account and a phone number for those residents of the northern part of the Gaza Strip who are not being let down from north to south by Hamas itself. What can you tell us? That's right. So for a number of days now, the IDF have continued to attempt to encourage the population in the north of the Gaza Strip to move further south, as you say, opening up humanitarian corridors to enable those people to move. Now Hamas has made efforts, it's seemed, to prevent the population from moving and some others are choosing not to leave either because they think it's too dangerous or because they don't have the means to do so. However, this means that they are then stuck in the north of the Gaza Strip where the combat is fiercest and as you say, where the Israeli military is attempting to encircle the Gaza city where the dominance of Hamas's infrastructure is with that civilian population therefore being stuck in that battlefield as it's ongoing. Elsewhere here there's been a third rocket launch just 15 minutes ago. There was a launch towards communities just to the north of the Gaza Strip, also with rockets being launched here. We saw an interception over our heads about 15 minutes ago. And this is the third major rocket launch today with several other incidences, smaller launches taking place elsewhere. Yeah, rocket fire is still ongoing on day 34 of the war. Robert Swift, down south. Thank you very much for this. We'll get back to you later on in the day, of course. And joining us now here in the studio, Dr. Avi Bitsour, head of the home front, the National Security Studies at the Bait Barrel Academic College. Dr. Bitsour, thank you so very much for joining us. Well, I do want to start to begin, sir, with what is currently happening. And again, we'll have a far reaching impact on what is happening on the ground. And this is the meeting, the reported trilateral meeting. In Doha, to your understanding of the current dynamics, how close are we, especially taking into consideration that, again, the Emir of Qatar is expected to head to Egypt as soon as tomorrow? I think you began the news with very good and lovely and sensible sentence. This is a point of change in this war or the game that others place on our account. And the subject is the people who have been kidnapped, the 2 and 40 or 239, nevertheless the number, the coming of the CIA chief and Qatar and our head of the Mossad together, it's mean they are speaking. When the men of Qatar will come tomorrow to Egypt, the negotiation come to a point that all the messages or suggestions, whatever, will come to the Hamas. And now it's a time that I think will take three, four days. I don't want to be a prophet because I never know. But three to four days that I believe there will be a suggestion on the table what the Hamas and Israel will do with it, it depends. First of all, it depends if in these two, three coming days we can achieve another military goals. Okay, let's say suppose we are capturing the heads of the terrorists of the Hamas, okay, these killers, suppose, I think that what I said in the studio, I spoke about Shifa bombardment and it will, it's going, it will not happen in these two days, I think, from our side. The Hamas will try. So addressing the Shifa problem, which is a concrete problem, and also a location full of symbolism will only happen to your understanding only after some sort of a deal. If these talks will collapse, will not succeed, we will do something at Shifa and the Kurds hospitals, or coming by troops, or coming to bombardment. We know what a bomb from airplane can do to the Shifa. We know that can change all this war, that not all the people are on our side, there will not be. Remember the fury grapes, if you remember the operation at Lebanon, in Paris, late Paris, a while ago, yeah. Was prime minister and we fired at school, the war was ended in that day. I don't think this is the situation now, but we now will not do it until we know what is going on in this. The diplomatic route, yes. Yeah. Well, meanwhile, the situation on Israel's northern border with Lebanon is more volatile than ever before. And even if not right now, it is clear that Israel will have to deal with the evil winds from the north sooner rather than later. This is what Israeli opposition leader Elipid told our very own Benito Levine earlier today on the threat from Hezbollah. Let's take a listen. I think we will have to deal with it sooner or later. And we have to make sure that UN resolution 1701 is the reality on the ground, meaning how Hezbollah is being pushed back into Lebanon and from our borders. And again, the strategy of the state of Israel should be that people can live on our borders in safety. And part of it is making sure Hezbollah is not sitting on the villages up north. I don't think right now it's a good time for anybody to have a miscalculation that will lead into another conflict up north. I think Hezbollah understands this as well. I mean, we were taken by surprise on October 7th. We will not be surprised now if anything we're angry and at the peak of our readiness. So yes, eventually we will have to address the problem of Hezbollah up north. I don't think this is the right timing. And let's cross now to the Israeli-Banana border. Our 24 News correspondent, Mary McCollough, standing by there with the 24 News team, of course, on the ground. Mary, thank you very much for joining us. Well, what's happening on the Everett Volatile and at deceivingly quiet border at times? I think that's exactly the right way to put it, Ellie. We do continue to see these cross-border attacks between Israel and Hezbollah, also other Palestinian terror groups based in southern Lebanon, including Hamas, who in recent days has also fired rockets into northern Israeli communities. Today, we've seen a number of different exchanges of fire between Israel and Hezbollah, the most recent coming within the past 30 minutes, where a number of different mortars were fired across the border towards these areas inside northern Israel territory, areas that are really along the border area. This is something that we've seen numerous times in the past two weeks as we see Hezbollah continuing to target not just civilian areas, but also the IDF military and observation posts in the area. So we've frequently seen sirens ringing out in the area caused by the mortars or anti-take missiles, which Hezbollah keeps continuing to fire across the border. Before we had these sirens ringing out, we do know that there was an exchange of fire, the IDF said that it fired on two separate terror cells operating inside southern Lebanon, who were planning anti-tank missiles across the border. And they also fired at the source of a launch after an unmanned drone was attacked by Hezbollah. IDF didn't really speak about any casualties or injuries coming out of those attacks, only saying that it responded forcefully to the source of those attacks. I-2040's correspondent Mary McAuliffe up in the north on the Israel-Lebanon border, we will, of course, come back to you, Mary, later on in the day. Thank you so very much for this. Back here in the studio with Dr. Ravi Bitsour, Dr. Bitsour, whenever we're talking at Hezbollah, we're essentially talking Iran. Yes. Of course. Look. Because ask yourself a question, very simple one. It's not a test, okay? Yeah. I'm willing to be- When you say Hamas or the Palestinians or whatever, I'm speaking on their side, they have with us a call about a piece of land that you say it's us, they say it's them. You can understand it, not the way of the 7th of October. You can understand the conflict. This is conflict. Yes. When you're coming to Hezbollah, what is the geographic conflict and which piece of land do you want? The little village or the shaba down from the Dov mountain, it's nothing. So because they are she, because they want what? They are proxy of Iran. Iran is playing a chess with the world and we are staying like a pain in the neck of Iran in its way towards the West. It's not for nothing that we are little Satan and the U.S. is big Satan. No. Okay. But what they're trying to do to gain forces and use other people, other nations, like the Huts, like Hezbollah, like Hamas, like the militia in the south of the Ramata Golan, okay? Golanites. Do the job for them. Do the proxies for them. Of course. Look, you know, because we invented the chess play. Everybody will say to you, the Chinese, no, the Persians, they have a big dream, a huge one. They are dreaming about the empire of the Persian, of the Riyavesh, Koresh, Khrashverosh, believe it or not. And they want it really and they want to do it. You know, when you're coming to the Mossad, the Israeli one, and you are going downstairs, suppose, you can see a sign, very large one, it says like this, okay, a quote. When you're speaking to a Persian, don't believe nothing he said. You know why? Because he's telling you not what he's thinking, he's doing not what he told you, but the outcomes are what he told, again, he's speaking not what he's thinking, he's doing not what he's speaking, but the outcomes are in favor of his side. This is the Persians, yes, of course, like you say, Israel is staying at the neck of the Iranian, and he knows it, and he knows very well that we have to do something about our lives, because I look at the head of the opposition in Israel, in our country, in Lapid. It was right. You cannot live with a little snake in your south, the Hamas, and with a huge one in the north, the Hezbollah, and the big monster is staying on the east, you cannot. We cannot fight all the world, I know it, but we have to understand against what we are standing. And the U.S. with us, it's a power, but these are costs for this power. And one of them is the bargaining now, and believe it or not, we will have to pay something. No free lunches, as Dave put it, Dr. Avi Bitsour, head of the Home Front and National Security Studies at the Bait Barrel Academy College. Thank you very much, Dr. Bitsour, for joining us on this broadcast. Now tonight, an exclusive interview with Israeli President Isaac Herzog on what is happening now, and more so, what will be happening here in Israel domestically today after the war, how Israeli society will rise up. Here's a sneak peek of what Herzog told our very own Laura Silier. Look, the cup of agony and pain is filled, and we are seeing real torment, sadness, agony, tears, and emotions. But I told the nation last week, it's extremely natural to express emotions, to express fear, to cry. We have to go through this period of mourning, but we are a very resilient nation. We came out of the worst atrocities in the past, the worst atrocity that humanity has known, the Holocaust. We built a very strong nation. We are an immense, incredible people. The people here are just amazing. I fall in love with them every minute as I go out with Michal to all sorts of places to see the people. Give you an example of what we went here through yesterday, three sites that gave us, again, the same perception, the same proportion, the same understanding, what an immense nation it is and so much light it has. We started with the United Hatzala in the headquarters down south, and the people who surrounded us was a Muslim doctor who was abducted by Hamas and liberated by the Israeli police, who's a volunteer of Hatzala, Ethiopian immigrants, Haredi Jews, secular Jews, veterans Israelis and newcomer Israelis, all together doing great work in helping and aiding people. Then we went to the Home Front Command. We saw hundreds of people working to assist the families of the hostages and coordinating all the efforts on being on alerts and sirens and what's not and resilience and of course dealing with the needs of all the evacuees, about 230,000. And then we went to a Tel Aviv Medical Center to Ikhilov to the new rehabilitation hospital. And you go in with these amazing doctors and nurses and of course these amazing soldiers and their families. Nobody will break us. Nobody. We are a very strong nation. We shall overcome and we shall prevail and we shall win. And this full, exclusive interview with Israeli President Isaac Herzog tonight, 8 p.m. Israel time, 1 p.m. Eastern Standard Time here on I-24 News and of course in all social media platforms later on. You don't want to miss it. Now the Nova Music Festival tragically became a symbol of the October 7 massacre. Thousands of peace-seeking, life-thriving youngsters. This wanted to dense their troubles away and instead a living hell. Hundreds slaughtered, raped, tortured, hundreds injured. The survivors feeling guilty. They had survived. About a hundred of them began together a long, long journey to healing their bodies and more so their souls connected by blood, sadness, anger. They now need to find a way to feel worthy of living again. Here's more on the secret force Cyprus resort in this adaptation, this report from Israel's Channel News. Let's take this moment to connect with ourselves. You don't have to close your eyes. Closed eyes can sometimes be too threatening, memories, sights. If there's something you feel here, this is dissonance. On the one hand heaven, on the other hand, everyone is here because they were in hell. Let's take a moment for ourselves and let's start a round of sharing how am I feeling now? I came here and everything is very beautiful here and everything is impressive. There's nothing to do but there's also grief. They arrived here earlier this week, 50 people and here's the dissonance too. Beautiful young people full of life on the one hand but also confused. Since then they were saved from a massacre at the party. They were invited to come and relax. A week in the secret forest, a magical resort in Cyprus, putting aside the sounds and the sights that have accompanied them ever since and together giving themselves the time to take care of the body as well as the soul. No matter how much I cried at home or shared the parents or tried to unwind for a moment, it won't help. Someone who wasn't there really won't understand and probably that's what connects us in blood, in sadness, in pain, in anger. We don't need to explain the feelings because we were there together and if we didn't run hand in hand we were still there together. In the end you want to be with people who they understand you and they know what you've been through. Kessam Kertes was one of 3,000 people who spent time at the Nova Festival. When the attack began, managed to flee and be rescued. Here too, in a Cypriot silence, she returns again and again to the moments when she thought her end had come and called her mother. I didn't want to worry her until, and when, shh, came. I said goodbye. Have you listened to this recording many times since then? Many, many times, yes, I replay it. In the small talk by the pool, between a green smoothie and yoga, between a walk in the forest and a talk with a psychologist, between acupuncture and watsu at the spa, they start breathing better. No one is forcing them, but they show up for the multitude of activities, overwhelmed, desperate to unload. I feel sometimes that at home with friends and family and people I know are looking at me differently since that day, and here it feels totally natural. I feel like I've returned to myself. And that's exactly what Yoni Kahana hoped would happen. He is an Israeli who lives on the island and owns several hotels, including the secret forest. When the war in Israel started, he realized that even from afar he could do good and open his heart and his pockets. We made a decision to open the gates here and host them free of charge. Then we published a post on our Facebook page and wrote a few words. Anyone who survived the party is invited. I was sure that 50, 70 people, 100 maximum will contact us, but about 1,400 registered. In the two or three days we were on the market. And in the process, dozens of therapists turned to us, and they say we want to come fully voluntarily to take care of them. So let's shake hands and get into this goodness. Okay, we'll give a big hug. I'll start with a joke. And so everyone who receives the touch will burst out with a big laugh. Or's injury is impossible to miss inside the circle. She's the only one here with a visible wound, trying to laugh but broken in the middle. I have two holes in my leg, but many more holes in my heart. I have friends that have lost, and there is a lot of bereavement and a lot of loss and a lot of sadness and a lot of pain. During the day in the small groups, they talk about what happened, about the friends they lost, and at the same time about the new friends, bound by fate. When the sun goes down, everything gets harder. Do you sleep better here? Nice question. It's hard to say. Before, I would wake up every night with nightmares and would not sleep well. And sometimes I'm also afraid to go to sleep. And the first night here, they were really difficult. There were difficulties. And since then, I've been able to sleep without pills and no nightmares. I felt after a long, long time, I felt peace. What does the distance do to them, not being in Israel? So that's the main rationale behind this plan, that our country is currently going through a serious shakeup. We all are, and can't ignore it, affected by anxiety and stress. And in this sensitive state, we thought it would be best to take them out for a moment, for a break. Let's face it, it actually allows them to really begin processing what they've been through. In the meantime, two courses have already gone through here. 100 young people who are riddled with energy and returned stronger to Israel to continue to take care of themselves. Now Yoni hopes to be able to raise the money to bring the remaining 1,300 who registered. Together with the battery of caregivers from Israel, allow them to contain the pain. I wondered if it was ethical, just to come here, I don't know, sit at the pool, when so many people are still there grieving and hurting. And what, I'll sit here and I'll drink a glass of wine, will I laugh? I realized it was just not an issue of moral or immoral, it's a matter of now putting myself first, to know that I come here to give myself, to choose life. When Avraham Tal came up to sing for them, not everyone had an easy time getting into it, to the music playing on the speakers, for a body that moves according to the rhythm. And Avraham probably understood too and started slowly. It starts with small steps, the very fact that I sat down and managed to hear the music and listen to it. For me, this is already a small victory. I will move my legs and that will be a victory. At the end, I will dance in the square like I danced, and that will be the biggest victory. Going back to life, slowly but surely. And this past, in the last few minutes, the IDF is confirming that UAV hit a civilian building in the city of Elat, the southern city of Elat. We've been talking about it mostly in the context of missiles from Yemen that were launched towards Israel this time. Again, it was an Israeli UAV hit in this civilian building. The details of the incident are under investigation now, so no panic there down south in the city of Elat. This is it from us this hour, but we will be back, of course. At the top of the hour, as we continue our rolling covers, day 34 of the war here in Israel. Thank you very much for watching. See you at the top, yeah. We bring you first-hand testimonies from the front lines, from those who survived, and all the records of the atrocities by Hamas. Follow us as Israel fights terror from the south and north. Get the inside scoop on what's going on, only on I-24 News. Intensifications de la guerra, espadas de hierro. Entrevistas exclusivas reportes desde la zona de guerra. La reacción de los países hispanoparlantes. News 24, el único medio en español que te mantiene informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en Israel. News 24, únicamente en I-24 News. Israel, as we speak, in Doha, a trilateral meeting with my ChangeD course, discussing the pending potential hostage release deal ahead of an exclusive trip of the Emir of Qatar to Egypt tomorrow, such a deal likely to see some sort of a pause in the ground operation in the Gaza Strip. But until that happens, IDF forces are encircling the general headquarters of Hamas' wedding to take control. And we want to begin this broadcast by heading down south I-24 News correspondent Robert Swift, standing by there with the I-24 News team, of course. Robert, thank you for joining us. Well, yet again a humanitarian corridor, yet again aid trucks of humanitarian content arriving at the Rafa crossing and a telegram account and a phone number for those residents of the northern part of the Gaza Strip for not being let down from north to south by Hamas itself. What can you tell us? That's right. So for a number of days now, the IDF have continued to attempt to encourage the population in the north of the Gaza Strip to move further south. As you say, opening up humanitarian corridors to enable those people to move. Now, Hamas has made efforts as it's seemed to prevent the population from moving, and some others are choosing not to leave either because they think it's too dangerous or because they don't have the means to do so. However, this means that they are then stuck in the north of the Gaza Strip where the combat is fiercest. And as you say, where the Israeli military is attempting to encircle the Gaza City where the dominance of Hamas' infrastructure is with that civilian population therefore being stuck in that battlefield as it's ongoing. Elsewhere here, there's been a third rocket launch just 15 minutes ago. There was a launch towards communities just to the north of the Gaza Strip, also with rockets being launched here. We saw an interception over our heads about 15 minutes ago. And this is the third major rocket launch today with several other incidences. Smaller launches taking place elsewhere. Yeah, the rocket fire is still ongoing on day 34 of the war. Robert Swift, down south. Thank you very much for this. We will get back to you later on in the day, of course. And joining us now here in the studio, Dr. Avi Bitsour, head of the Home Front and National Security Studies at the Bait Barrel Academic College. Dr. Bitsour, thank you so very much for joining us. Well, I do want to start to begin, sir, with what is currently happening and, again, would have a far-reaching impact on what is happening underground. And this is the meeting, the reported trilateral meeting in Doha, to your understanding of the current dynamics. How close are we, especially taking into consideration that, again, the Emir of Qatar was expected to head to Egypt as soon as tomorrow? I think you began the news with a very good and lovely and sensible sentence. This is a point of change in this war or the game that others place on our account. And the subject is the people who have been kidnapped, the 240 or 239, nevertheless, the number, the coming of the CIA chief and Qatar and our head of the Mossad together, it means they are speaking. When the men of Qatar will come tomorrow to Egypt, the negotiation come to a point that all the messages or suggestions, whatever, will come to the Hamas. And now it's a time that I think will take three, four days. I don't want to be a prophet because I never know. But three to four days that I believe there will be a suggestion on the table. What the Hamas and Israel will do with it, it depends. First of all, it depends if in these two, three coming days we can achieve another military goals. Okay. Let's say suppose we are capturing the heads of the terrorists of the Hamas, okay, these killers. Suppose I think that what I said in the studio, I spoke about Shifa bombardment and it's going, it will not happen in these two days, I think, from our side. The Hamas will try. So addressing the Shifa problem, which is a concrete problem and also a location full of symbolism, will only happen to your understanding only after some sort of a deal. If these talks will collapse, will not succeed, we will do something at Shifa and the Quds hospitals or coming by troops or coming to bombardment. Yeah. We know what a bomb from airplane can do to the Shifa. We know that it can change all this war that not all the people are on our side, there will not be. Remember the fury grapes, if you remember the operation at Lebanon, in Paris, late Paris. A while ago. Was prime minister and we fired at school. The war was ended in that day. I don't think this is the situation now, but we now will do will not do it until we know what is going on on this diplomatic route. Yes. Yeah. Well, well, meanwhile, the situation in Israel is a northern border with Lebanon is more volatile than ever before. And even if not right now, it is clear that Israel will have to deal with the evil winds from the North sooner rather than later. This is what Israeli opposition leader Elipid told our very own Benito Levine earlier today on the threat from Hezbollah. Let's take a listen. I think we will have to deal with it sooner or later. And we have to make sure that UN resolution 1701 is the reality on the ground, meaning how Hezbollah is being pushed back into Lebanon and from our borders. Again, the strategy of the state of Israel should be that people can live on our borders in safety. And part of it is making sure Hezbollah is not sitting on the villages up north. I don't think right now it's it's it's a good time for anybody to get to have a miscalculation that will lead into another conflict up north. I think Hezbollah understands this as well. I mean, we were taken by surprise on October 7th. We will not be surprised now if anything we're angry and at the peak of our readiness. So yes, eventually we will have to address the problem of Hezbollah up north. I don't think this is the right timing. And let's cross now to the Israeli-Banana border at 24 News correspondent Mary McAuliffe, standing by there with the 24 News team, of course, on the ground. Mary, thank you very much for joining us. Well, what's happening on the Everett Volatile and deceiving deceivingly quiet border at times? I think that's exactly the right way to put it, Ellie. We do continue to see these cross border attacks between Israel and Hezbollah, also other Palestinian terror groups based in southern Lebanon, including Hamas, who in recent days has also fired rockets into northern Israeli communities. Today, we've seen a number of different exchanges of fire between Israel and Hezbollah, the most recent coming within the past 30 minutes, where a number of different mortars were fired across the border towards these areas inside northern Israel territory, areas that are really along the border area. This is something that we've seen numerous times in the past few weeks as we see Hezbollah continuing to target not just civilian areas, but also the IDF military and observation posts in the area. So we've frequently seen sirens ringing out in the area caused by the mortars or anti-take missiles, which Hezbollah keeps continuing to fire across the border. Before we had these sirens ringing out, we do know that there was an exchange of fire, the IDF said that it fired on two separate terror cells operating inside southern Lebanon, who were planning anti-tank missiles across the border. And they also fired at the source of a launch after an unmanned drone was attacked by Hezbollah. IDF didn't really speak about any casualties or injuries coming out of those attacks, only saying that it responded forcibly to the source of those attacks. I-24 news correspondent Mary McAuliffe, up on the, up in the north on the Israel-Iberano border, we will of course come back to you, Mary, later on in the day. Thank you so very much for this. Back here in the studio with Dr. Ravi Bitsour, Dr. Bitsour, whenever we're talking at Hezbollah, we're essentially talking Iran. Yes, of course. Look, because ask yourself a question, very simple one. It's not a test, okay? Yeah, I'm willing to be- When you say Hamas or the Palestinians or whatever, I'm speaking on their side, they have with us a quarrel about a piece of land. Did you say it's us? They said it's them. You can understand it, not the way of the 7th of October. You can understand the conflict. This is conflict. Yes. When you're coming to Hezbollah, what is the geographic conflict and which piece of land do you want? Raja, the little village, or the Shaba down from the Dov mountain? It's nothing. So because they are she, because they want what? They are proxy of Iran. Iran is playing a chess with the world, and we are staying like a pain in the neck of Iran in its way towards the West. It's not for nothing that we are little Satan and the U.S. is big Satan. Okay, but what they're trying to do to gain forces and use other people, other nations, like the Hoots, like Hezbollah, like Hamas, like the militia in the south of the Ramata Golan, okay, Golanites to do the job for them, do the proxies for them, of course. Look, you know, because we invented the chess play. Everybody was saying to you, the Chinese, no, the Persians, they have a big dream, a huge one. They are dreaming about the empire of the Persian, of the Riyavesh, Koresh, Khrashverosh, believe it or not, and they want it really, and they want to do it. You know, when you are coming to the Mossad, the Israeli one, and you are going downstairs, suppose, you can see a sign, very large one, it says like this, okay, a quote, when you're speaking to a Persian, don't believe nothing he said. You know why? Because he tells you not what he's thinking, he's doing not what he told you, but the outcomes are what he told, again, he's speaking not what he's thinking, he's doing not what he's speaking, but the outcomes are in favor of his side. This is the Persians, yes, of course, like you say, Israel is staying at the neck of the Iranian, and they know it, and they know very well that we have to do something about our lives, because I look at the head of the opposition in Israel, in our country, in Lapid, it was right. You cannot live with a little snake in your south, the Hamas, and with a huge one in the north, the Hezbollah, and the big monster is staying on the east, you cannot. We cannot fight all the world, I know it, but we have to understand against what we are standing, and the U.S. with us, it's a power, but these are costs for this power, and one of them is the bargaining now, and believe it or not, we will have to pay something. No free lunches, as David put it, Dr. Avi Bitsour, head of the Home Front and National Security Studies at the Bait Barrel Academy College. Thank you very much, Dr. Bitsour, for joining us on this broadcast. Now, tonight, an exclusive interview with Israeli President Isaac Herzog on what is happening now, and more so, what will be happening here in Israel domestically today after the war, how Israeli society will rise up. Here's a sneak peek of what Herzog told our very own Laura Silier. Look, the cup of agony and pain is filled, and we are seeing real torment, sadness, agony, tears, and emotions. But I told the nation last week, it's extremely natural to express emotions, to express fear, to cry. We have to go through this period of mourning, but we are a very resilient nation. We came out of the worst atrocities in the past, the worst atrocity that humanity has known, the Holocaust. We built a very strong nation. We are an immense, incredible people. The people here are just amazing. I fall in love with them every minute as I go out with Michal to all sorts of places to see the people. Give you an example of what we went through yesterday, three sites that gave us, again, the same perception, the same proportion, the same understanding, what an immense nation it is and so much light it has. We started with United Hatzala in the headquarters down south, and the people who surrounded us was a Muslim doctor who was abducted by Hamas and liberated by the Israeli police, who's a volunteer of Hatzala, Ethiopian immigrants, Haredi Jews, secular Jews, veterans, Israelis, and no-camera Israelis, all together doing great work in helping and aiding people. Then we went to the home front command. We saw hundreds of people working to assist the families of the hostages and coordinating all the efforts on being on alerts and sirens and what's not and resilience and, of course, dealing with the needs of all the evacuees, about 230,000. And then we went to the Tel Aviv Medical Center, to Ikhilov, to the new rehabilitation hospital, and you go in with these amazing doctors and nurses and, of course, these amazing soldiers and their families. Nobody will break us. Nobody. We are a very strong nation. We shall overcome and we shall prevail and we shall win. And this full exclusive interview with Israeli President Isaac Herzog tonight, 8 p.m. Israel time, 1 p.m. Eastern Standard Time here on I-24 News and, of course, in all social media platforms later on. You don't want to miss it. Now, the Nova Music Festival tragically became a symbol of the October 7 massacre. Thousands of peace-seeking, life-thriving youngsters. This wanted to dense their troubles away. And instead, a living hell, hundreds slaughtered, raped, tortured, hundreds injured, the survivors feeling guilty they had survived. About 100 of them began together a long, long journey to healing their bodies and, more so, their souls connected by blood, sadness, anger. They now need to find a way to feel worthy of living again. Here's more on the secret force Cyprus resort and this adaptation, this report from Israel's Channel News. Let's take this moment to connect with ourselves. You don't have to close your eyes. Closed eyes can sometimes be too threatening, memories, sites. If there is something you feel here, this is dissonance. On the one hand heaven, on the other hand, everyone is here because they were in hell. Let's take a moment for ourselves and let's start a round of sharing, how am I feeling now? I came here and everything is very beautiful here and everything is impressive. There's nothing to do, but there's also grief. Arrived here earlier this week, 50 people and here's the dissonance too. Beautiful young people, full of life on the one hand, but also confused. Since then they were saved from a massacre at the party. They were invited to come and relax, a week in the secret forest, a magical resort in Cyprus, putting aside the sounds and the sights that have accompanied them ever since, and together giving themselves the time to take care of the body as well as the soul. No matter how much I cried at home or shared the parents or tried to unwind for a moment, it won't help. Someone who wasn't there really won't understand and probably that's what connects us in blood, in sadness, in pain, in anger. We don't need to explain the feelings because we were there together and if we didn't run hand in hand, we were still there together. In the end you want to be with people who they understand you and they know what you've been through. Kessam Kertes was one of 3,000 people who spent time at the Nova Festival when the attack began managed to flee and be rescued. Here too in a Cypriot silence she returns again and again to the moments when she thought her end had come and called her mother. I didn't want to worry her until, and when, shh, came. I said goodbye. Have you listened to this recording many times since then? Many, many times, yes, I replay it. In the small talk by the pool, between a green smoothie and yoga, between a walk in the forest and a talk with a psychologist, between acupuncture and watsu at the spa, they start breathing better. No one is forcing them, but they show up for the multitude of activities overwhelmed, desperate to unload. I feel sometimes that at home with friends and family and people I know are looking at me differently since that day. And here it feels totally natural. I feel like I've returned to myself. And that's exactly what Yoni Kahana hoped would happen. He is an Israeli who lives on the island and owns several hotels, including the secret forest. When the war in Israel started, he realized that even from afar he could do good and opened his heart and his pockets. We made a decision to open the gates here and host them free of charge. Then we published a post on our Facebook page and wrote a few words. Anyone who survived the party is invited. I was sure that 50, 70 people, 100 maximum, will contact us. But about 1400 registered. In the two or three days we were on the market. And in the process, dozens of therapists turn to us and they say we want to come fully voluntarily to take care of them. So let's shake hands and get into this goodness. Okay, we'll give a big hug. I'll start with a joke. And so everyone who receives the touch will burst out with a big laugh. Or's injury is impossible to miss inside the circle. She's the only one here with a visible wound, trying to laugh but broken in the middle. I have two holes in my leg, but many more holes in my heart. I have friends that have lost and there is a lot of bereavement and a lot of loss and a lot of sadness and a lot of pain. During the day in the small groups, they talk about what happened, about the friends they lost and at the same time about the new friends bound by fate. When the sun goes down, everything gets harder. Do you sleep better here? Nice question. It's hard to say. Before I would wake up every night with nightmares and would not sleep well. And sometimes I'm also afraid to go to sleep. And the first night here, they were really difficult. There were difficulties. And since then, I've been able to sleep without pills and no nightmares. I felt after a long, long time, I felt peace. What does the distance do to them not being in Israel? So that's the main rationale behind this plan, that our country is currently going through a serious shake-up. We all are and can't ignore it, affected by anxiety and stress. And in their sensitive state, we thought it would be best to take them out for a moment, for a break. Let's face it. It actually allows them to really begin processing what they've been through. In the meantime, two courses have already gone through here. 100 young people who are riddled with energy and returned stronger to Israel to continue to take care of themselves. Now Yoni hopes to be able to raise the money to bring the remaining 1,300 who registered. Together with the battery of caregivers from Israel, allow them to contain the pain. I wondered if it was ethical just to come here, I don't know, sit at the pool when so many people are still there grieving and hurting. And what, I'll sit here and I'll drink a glass of wine, will I laugh? I realized it was just not an issue of moral or immoral, it's a matter of now putting myself first, to know that I come here to give myself, to choose life. When Avraham Tau came up to sing for them, not everyone had an easy time getting into it, to the music playing on the speakers, for a body that moves according to the rhythm. And Avraham probably understood too and started slowly. It starts with small steps, the very fact that I sat down and managed to hear the music and listen to it. For me, this is already a small victory. I will move my legs and that will be a victory. At the end, I will dance in the square like I danced and that will be the biggest victory. Going back to life, slowly but surely. In the last few minutes, the IDF is confirming that UAV hit a civilian building in the city of Elat, the southern city of Elat. We've been talking about it mostly in the context of missiles from Yemen that were launched towards Israel this time. Again, it was an Israeli UAV hit in this civilian building. The details of the incident are under investigation now, so no panic there down south in the city of Elat. This is it from us this hour, but we will be back of course at the top of the hour as we continue our rolling covers day 34 of the war here in Israel. Thank you very much for watching. Israel is at war. Make an investment in Israel bonds. It is the most powerful and direct way to stand with Israel. Visit israelbonds.com and invest now. Within 100 soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped. Entire families, including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds. Awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong. Everyone is showing up. This is the unity. For broadcast here on I-24 News, we continue our rolling coverage day 34 of the war here in Israel, but this is a trilateral meeting in Doha that might change the course of the war. C.I.A. Chief Mossad Chief and the Prime Minister of Qatar discussing a potential hostage release deal ahead of an expected trip of the Emir of Qatar to Egypt tomorrow. Such a deal likely to see some sort of pause in the ground operation in the Gaza Strip. But until it happens, IDF forces are taking over more of Hamas's general headquarters in the Gaza Strip, readying to take full control. And joining us on this broadcast now here in the studio, Dr. Avi Abitur, head of the Home Front and National Security Studies at the Bait Burl Academic College and our very own I-24 News Middle East correspondent, Ariel Osteran. Thank you, gentlemen, very much for joining us. Ariel, I do want to begin with you because there's this unclearity over surrounding this incident in the southern city of Elat, direct hit of UAV. What is it exactly and what led to this direct hit still under investigation? What do we know? Right, Eli. So as you were asking a question, I got confirmation that we still don't know specific details regarding this drone. We're talking about a drone that crashed into a school in the southern city of Elat about a couple hours ago. It is still unclear whether this is an Israeli drone or a drone that was launched at Israel. It wouldn't be the first time that such an event has happened since October 2. I mean, just the other day, the Houthi said that they launched a bunch of drones and missiles at Israel. It's still too soon to determine whether indeed this is an enemy drone or an Israeli drone. But obviously for the residents of Elat, this is a big scare. But also, Elat has been multiplied threefold in terms of its population. It's hosting many internally displaced Israelis, many from the southern border communities. And so having another security incident, not the first one since they were evacuated to Elat, just illustrates how this trauma and the danger, the threat, is not leaving many Israelis even more than a month into this war. Far from over with the constant rocket fire towards different parts of Israel all the time. And to that point, exactly at October 2, we're talking about several hundreds thousands of refugees in their own country from North and South. And look, it's a create and will create a big trauma to the nation because to a refugee in your country that cannot come back and believe it or not, you agree with me, they will not come back to the North or to the South, nobody. And some of them are vowing to go back and rebuild. I mean, all the settlements, all the cities, all the areas in the North or all the kibbutz in the South, some of them are coming, but they have plenty to build up. We must, first of all, believe that we will build it up, first of all. Second, we must take care of these people like we're trying to do now. We've built now schools at the Aravah region for the kids from Jderot or Fakir Nettivot, et cetera. Okay, let's do it. Let's say, put a point of time, okay, on the schedule to say, I think this time will do like this. I think this time will do like that. Why? This is one of the ways to fight trauma. You know, if you have a trauma, let's say, three of us, I would say to you, you know what? On April, we're going to April, just like that, okay? It's nothing. But why? Because now we have a goal, something that's happy, something that's different. We must have these goals because these people have to get out from the trauma. The nation must raise up from the ashes, just like this, raise up. You can do it only if you say this is the target, not the military one, not Gaza. Target for the soul. Target for the soul, targets for missions for families, finishes for kids. You know, something like the academic year for my students. They said to me in my college, three of December, 1911, say, people, put the time, let's go for it. I know that some of them will not come because they are in the army. I know that some of them are afraid about the kids. But you have the boulders to face it. And another thing, please, sorry, about the drone a lot. It's not the hoots. I want to say it because I want that everybody will hear us. The hoots, when the fire emissive to Israel, it takes 20 minutes. It's not the hoots. Maybe I will not, I don't know the news. You will say. Well, this is what our real lives are. Yeah. And just an update on the wounded. There's a 20-year-old young man who is in light condition who's taken to hospital after inhaling smoke and five people from this incident in Elat. And five are suffering from anxiety. These are the, this is the scope of the damage that we know besides the material damage that we saw to the school. This is an update just in the past minute or so. School that was packed with kids until short hours ago. One of the rare parts of the country that did have regular school today. Yeah. All right. We're obviously keeping close tabs on that, but we do want to head now to the Israel Gaza border at 24 news correspond. Robert Swift standing by there. Robert in the past hour. Red siren alerts being heard in southern communities yet again. Yeah, that's correct. There's been two more alerts in the last hour. This was launches on a smaller scale than some of those seen earlier. And to be honest, these are pretty much par for the course. These communities are receiving these sorts of attacks regularly throughout the day. Rockets do continue to be launched from the Gaza Strip, despite the fact that the Israeli military is deep inside the north of the Gaza Strip. The Israeli military announced just a short while ago that its operations inside northern Gaza are continuing at pace. They said that they are investing in the area around al-Shifra hospital, which is inside the Gaza city units from the givati brigades armored units and engineering units and essentially have been attacking dismantling what they've described as a military quarter. This is extensive Hamas infrastructure factories, intelligence, war rooms, this sort of of construction. And the Israeli military says it has killed a number of Hamas in this area and that they have successfully dismantled these rooms. However, it's worth knowing that the vast majority of Hamas's military infrastructure is underground. Now at present, it appears that Hamas is playing a sort of standoffish game while there is combat ongoing, as you can see behind me. It's understood that Hamas is sending small units to use rocket propelled grenades, this sort of weaponry to attack Israeli army whilst not engaging fully in a head-to-head conflict with the much more powerful Israeli military. The question is, how long can Hamas play this sort of stalling game as the Israeli military continues to advance it? Eventually, the IDF are going to be on Hamas's doorstep, whether that is inside the hospital, inside the al-Shifra hospital where it's understood that much of Hamas's HQ is buried underground. Sooner or later, Hamas are going to have to decide if they take it on the fight this way. Yes, indeed. Long days still ahead. Fighting continues. Robert Swift, that 24 News Correspondent, down south. Thank you very much for this. Robert, and as this high-profile meeting in Doha has concluded rather reports that Mossad chief David Bernat is making his way back now. But while it seems that they bid to reach some sort of a deal, is gaining traction. The issue of the hostages, of course, remain the top of the agenda here in Israel. And this is what the Israeli opposition leader, Yair Lapid, told our Benita Levine earlier today on the issue of the hostages. It's a good thing that while we are prioritizing, we put the hostages on the top of the list. And I mean, along with winning this war against Hamas, these two are attached to each other. So yes, we will have to take some steps on the way down to release as many of the hostages as possible. I don't want to get into details because this is a hostage situation. In a hostage situation, you don't want to push the intelligence out of the necessary envelope. So basically, yes, I would go to, and I would take some all the necessary measures in order to release as many hostages as possible. But would you release some and not all? The goal of the State of Israel is to release all the hostages without differentiating civilians from soldiers, young from all. We need to have everybody back home, all 241 hostages. I've been sitting with them on a daily basis. You know, you discuss the stories. You sit, I sat with Zavicha the other day. His wife and three children have been taken hostage. I said the day before with Yoni. His wife and two children, one is four and a half and one is two and a half, has been taken hostage. This is heartbreaking. And this needs to be solved. And the entire international community should stand shoulder to shoulder with us in the effort to release all the hostages. Back here in the studio with Dr. Avi Bittor and our very own Arialans around Dr. Bittor. We cannot really undermine the significance of such a meeting that we've seen this afternoon in Doha. Again, the CIA chief, the head of Mossad, and the prime minister of Qatar, especially as tomorrow the emir of Qatar is expected to head to Egypt to meet LCC. You're right. Look, it's very important because the major forces that the can speak with Hamas and Israel are Egypt, Qatar with Hamas. The CIA came here, the head of the CIA, and is representing the U.S. and its goals and the heirs of the Mossad, our goals. I believe the try to come to a suggestion that they will give to the Hamas and to Israel to say something I cannot, I don't know. I really don't know. But something to do that will solve this problem about the people who have been kidnapped. Till then, we must, we must gain the time and come to the chief hospital and come and close and close the ring around the Hamas terrorists to make the pressure much more, okay, stronger and heavy. And you know what? At the Hamas, believe it or not, we'll fire much more than fire today because we will try to see, to show the world and others that are still on the stage. All right. Aria Lassram, before we talk about other meetings that are taking place today in the region, we want to head to the northern border, the Israel-Lebanon border, I-24 News correspondent Mary McAuliffe, sending by there with the I-24 News team. Mary, what's the latest there? Still deceiving quiet? That's right, Ellie. I don't know so much as quiet now in the past hour. There's been a series of ongoing exchanges between the Israeli military and Hezbollah. We had rocket sirens ring out in the past hour and a half. The IDF confirming those sirens were caused by a number of different mortar attacks which were launched from inside Lebanese territory towards Israeli communities. The IDF said that it was responding to the source of the fire, taking out a number of different terror squads throughout the day inside southern Lebanon. Hezbollah for its part set confirmed that it had fired a number of different mortar attacks saying that it had launched one an attack against an infantry force belonging to the Israeli military along the northern border and also saying that it targeted a number of areas further north in the Matulah area. The IDF confirming both of those strikes and saying it was responding forcefully to the source of both of these but it's just one in a series of different incidents that we've seen playing out throughout the day today as we continue to see anti-tank missiles being fired from inside southern Lebanese territory towards Israeli military positions but also some of those chagrin, those sirens in these northern communities which are lying really along the border. Important to remember of course that most of these communities within four kilometers of the border are ordered to be evacuated so all residents are supposed to have already fled within recent weeks. Mary McAuliffe on the Israel-Lebanon border, thank you very much for this much more from Mary throughout the evening. Of course back here in the studio our real answer on we're seeing today a meeting between Iranian-Russian and Turkish Erdogan and also Arab League meeting in Saudi Arabia perhaps illustrating the two different axes of Muslim powers here in the Middle East. Right and that's in addition to the summit, humanitarian summit in Paris that the Egyptian foreign minister chose to go there rather than to the emergency meeting of Arab League foreign ministers taking place in Riyadh ahead of an emergency meeting on Saturday but just to close up the previous topic, the head of Hamas Ismail Anir is currently in Egypt for a meeting with Sisi and this comes after yesterday the prime minister of Qatar who is in this trilateral meeting with the head of Mossad and Siai met with a delegation from Hamas. So Hamas is definitely too many dots here of these negotiations but obviously you will not have Israel and Hamas in the same room or even Siai and Hamas in the same room. But this is the closest as it gets essentially. Right and that's why you have Qatar and Egypt as kind of buffers who represent meeting with Hamas before the meeting today and after the meeting today. So obviously they're very much in the loop. Look if we're talking about the different voices coming out from this it's a very diplomatic day around the world regarding this conflict perhaps the most diplomatic day that we've seen since it began and this is 34 days after I think in terms of Israel's breathing room diplomatically I think this shows this is evident to the fact that this breathing room does exist from neither conference did we hear a clear forceful call for condemnation calling Israel to unilaterally cease the fire that is not what we heard we mainly heard from Francis Macron saying that the situation needs to change calling for a humanitarian pause and of course Egypt voicing their concern of displaced Palestinians displaced Palestinians making their way to the border. I think if there's something that we can identify a bottom line coming out from these Arab countries over this past month is that if there's one thing that concerns them not much the well-being of the Palestinian people but they don't want this conflict reaching their borders right Egypt Jordan do not want to get refugees even though they're presenting themselves as the protectors of the Palestinian people and all the discussions that we've been hearing are just a cessation of of the fighting nothing long term for the Palestinians nothing to help with their plight and that I think shows how diplomacy has failed until now and it's not necessarily the avenue that will get the sides out of this moving forward the Americans however are already talking about the day after in the Gaza Strip US Secretary of State Blinken stating very clearly this week that the Palestinian Authority will have to be part of the of the solution and yet the Palestinian Prime Minister and his first conference saying today that Israel is not fighting Hamas but all of Palestinian so how can how can we bridge the gaps between the two they cannot say the Palestinian Authority we are taking this offer and we will be the ruler of Gaza Strip because they will look and then later and say the you are right to yeah so they say no they're really saying that today about them in the West Bank by the way but really they want it very much and you know what I don't want to be a prophet and I'm not and I don't want to come back to the time when they sing song for peace after the 7th of October that I lost my virginity there okay me and all our nation but maybe from the issues we can raise up rise up maybe the Palestinian Authority with our help without our help will build something but it will take time and plenty long period of time that it's come tied with the first question you asked how many how many time you think that our people will be out of their houses refugees in their country it's all mixed together right now we must gain time to try to finish the military move well because I think we have two maximum three days and it will finish all right we shall see but while the talks of the day after in the Gaza Strip are already underway there's also an issue the issue rather of the day after here in Israel and tonight an exclusive interview with Israeli president Isaac Herzog vowing that these real society will rise up here's a sneak peek of what he told our our own Laura Sillier look the cup of agony and pain is filled and we are seeing real torment sadness agony tears and emotions but I told the nation last week it's extremely natural to express emotions to express fear to cry we have to go through this period of mourning and but we are a very resilient nation we came out of the worst atrocities in the past the worst atrocity that humanity has known the holocaust we built a very strong nation we are an immense incredible people the people here are just amazing I I fall in love with them every minute as I go out with michelle to all sorts of places to see the people give you an example of what we went here through yesterday three sites that gave us the again the same perception the same proportion the same understanding what an immense nation it is and so much light it has we started with United Hatzala in the headquarters down south and the people who surrounded us was a Muslim doctor who was abducted by Hamas and liberated by the Israeli police who's a volunteer of Hatzala Ethiopian immigrants Haredi Jews secular Jews veterans Israelis and no-camera Israelis all together doing great work in helping and aiding people then we went to the home front command we saw hundreds of people working to assist the families of the hostages and coordinating all the efforts on being on on alerts and and sirens and what's not and resilience and of course dealing with the needs of all the evacuees about 230 000 and then we went to a televised medical center to ikhilov to the new war rehabilitation hospital and you go in with these amazing doctors and nurses and of course these amazing soldiers and their families nobody will break us nobody we are a very strong nation we shall overcome and we shall prevail and we shall win the full exclusive interview with the Israeli president tonight 8 p.m israel time 1 p.m eastern standard time here on i-24 news of course and now trend alert anti-Semitism since the massacre on october 7th anti-Semitic incidents so across the globe it seems radical sheik is the must-have for autumn so much so that israeli designer dodo barol got buddha from luxury retail sites after posting documentation of the Hamas massacre but now more than 1000 members of the fashion and beauty industries including some of the biggest names are going on the offensive uh signing an open letter urging a strong stand against anti-Semitism and racism and joining us now alive from paris sofia sofia mikaily founder of paul and joe thank you so very much for speaking to us we appreciate your time so how did it all start and lots of big names already in and then we're of course are still counting what was it was a lot of convincing me that here i mean the situation is is really really bad as everybody knows and in uh in our business in our fashion industry our our our goal our our duty is to give pleasure is to give fun is to be to give like lightness uh you know in in this world and i've been personally attacked as many other jewish designer i've been personally attacked of anti-Semitism of really bad really strong and it's it's a shame i mean it's a shame that what's happening and the the rising of anti-Semitism after the horror of 7 october is there it's strong and it's bad very bad and you know um sofia we saw so many as celebrities a fearful of taking a stand due to the financial ramifications yes the wallet what can we do we live in uh in the real world aren't you afraid of of literally paying the price for taking a stand no i'm not afraid i'm not afraid because uh i think that we should go all work work even more be more in our business and and we should uh of course be careful of what's happening but there is all this propaganda propaganda after 7 of october after the terrible horrible horrible scene that we saw that uh this propaganda uh for palestine that is not the subject we know the subject is the attack that is the subject now is we want our hostages back with no condition and now of course after what happened you see a lot of people from arabic people i would say muslim people that were just you know like quiet and didn't say anything and then it's like this big big movement of hatred that comes like these people are like vomiting on us it's terrible but i believe strongly that something can happen we have first of course to have our hostages back but regarding our business as much as less as we will always show beautiful creation beautiful clothes great images people won't stop buying our brand even though we are uh jewish people jewish companies and honestly we have so many amazing amazing very powerful very strong companies owned by jewish people and then it means that the the world's gonna stop and it's not possible yeah because because we need all our companies everyone everybody needs our companies and everyone needs to take a moral stand here so so far i want to ask you you know you have all people you know fashion you know trends you know how it works um when did siding with humanity with truth came out of fashion and how can we make it it again i as i told you this time i i think honestly i think we cannot make it honestly in my position and opinion we can make it again as i said before the hostages all these families kids babies other people all these people has to be released in any any condition but releasing of course i've been missed i don't want to get involved in politics i am a fashion designer so i want to talk about my business but my business is not the problem is not only about fashion but if i have to talk about my business i've been attacked i had received several of horrible messages to add that people want to kill me that i am a i'm a jew and a zionist and jewish and then they have they want to boycott my brand many many messages to boycott and that we receive personal also messages at the poland joe social network not only personal but also at poland joe social network it means that it became very far honestly i i'm private and i've always posted peace messages but now yeah but now the industry the fashion and beauty industry is taking a stand and and and and rightfully so sofia mckaylee our founder of poland joe thank you very much for speaking to us this is it from uh from us here more coverage of the war at the top of the hour and more than 3000 injured and the war with hamas continue you first-hand testimonies from the front lines from those who survived and all the records of the atrocities by hamas follow us as israel fights terror from the south and north yet the inside school on what's going on only on i-24 news here on i-24 news we continue our rolling coverage day 34 of the war here in israel but this is a trilateral meeting in doha that might change the course of the war ciai chief mosad chief and the prime minister of katar discussing a potential hostage release deal ahead of an expected trip of the emir of katar to egypt tomorrow such a deal likely to see uh some sort of a pause in the ground operation in the gaza strip but until it happens idea forces are taking over more of hamas's general headquarters um in the gaza strip ready to take full control and joining us on the in this broadcast uh now here in the studio at dr avi abitur head of the home front and national security studies at the bait burl academic uh college and uh our very own at 24 news middle east uh correspondent aria lost run thank you gentlemen very much for joining us um aria i do want to begin with you because there's uh this uh unclarity over surrounding this incident in the southern city of elat direct hit of a uav um what is it exactly and what led to this uh to this direct hit still under investigation what do we know right ellie so as you were asking a question i got confirmation that we still don't know um specific details regarding this drone we're talking about a drone that crashed into a school in the southern city of elat about a couple hours ago it is still unclear whether this is an israeli drone or a drone that was launched at israel it wouldn't be the first time that such an event has happened since october second i mean just the other day the houthi said that they launched a bunch of drones and missiles at israel uh it's still too soon to determine whether indeed this is an enemy drone or an israeli drone but obviously for the residents of elat this is a big scare but also elat has been multiplied threefold in terms of its population it's hosting many uh internally displaced israelis many from the southern border communities and so having another security incident not the first one since they were evacuated to elat just illustrates how this uh this this trauma and and and and the danger the threat that is not leaving many israelis even more than a month into this war far from over with the constant constant um rocket fire towards different parts of israel all the time and to that point exactly at october two we're talking about several hundreds of thousands of of of refugees in their own country yeah from north and south and look it's a great and we create a big trauma to the nation because to very refugees in your country that cannot come back and believe it or agree with me they will not come back to the north or to the south nobody and some of them are going to go back and rebuild i mean all the settlements all the cities all the areas in the north or all the kibbutz in the south some of them are coming but they have plenty to build up we must first of all believe that we will build it up first of all second we must take care of these people like we're trying to do now we built now uh schools at the arava region for the kids from jderot or for community vote etc okay let's do it let's let's say put a point of time okay on the schedule they say until until this time we'll do like this i'll do this time we'll do like that long term plan yeah this is one of the way to fight trauma you know if you ever trauma let's say three of us i would say to you know what on april we're going to napal just like that okay it's nothing but why because now we have a goal something that's happy something that's different we must have these goals because these people have to get out from the trauma the nation must raise up from the ashes just like this raise up you can do it only if you say this is the target not the military one not gaza target for the soul targets for the soul targets for missions for families for issues for kids you know something like the academic year in for my students yes they said to me in my college three of december 19 of 11 say people put a time let's go for it i know that some of them will not come because they are in the army i know that some of them are afraid about the kids some certainty in this field yeah the boulders yeah to face it and another thing please sorry about the drone at the lot it's it's not the hoots i want to say it because i want that everybody will hear us the hoots when the fire emissive to israel it takes 20 minutes it's not the hoots maybe it's i will not yeah i still i don't know the news you will say well this is what there are real eyes yeah and just an update on the the wounded there's a 20-year-old young man who is in light condition who's taken to hospital after inhaling smoke and from this incident in a lot and five are suffering from anxiety these are the this is a scope of the damage that we know besides the material damage that we saw to the school this is a update just in the past the school that was packed with kids until short hours ago one of the rare parts of the country that did have regular school today yeah all right we're obviously keeping a close tabs on on that but we do want to head now to the israel gaza border at 24 news correspond robert swift uh standing by there robert in the past hour um red siren alerts being heard in southern communities yet again yeah that's correct there's been two more alerts in the last hour this was uh launches on a smaller scale than some of those seen earlier and to be honest these are pretty much par for the course uh these communities are receiving these sorts of attacks regularly throughout the day um rockets do continue to be launched from the gaza strip despite the fact that the israeli military is deep inside the north of the gaza strip the israeli military announced just a short while ago that its operations inside northern gaza are continuing at pace they said that they are investing in the area around al-shifra hospital which is inside the gaza city units from the givati brigades armored units and engineering units um have essentially have been uh attacking dismantling what they've described as a military quarter this is extensive infrastructure factories intelligence war rooms this sort of of construction and the israeli military says it has killed a number of chamas in this area and that they have successfully you know dismantled uh these rooms however it's worth knowing that the vast majority of chamas is military infrastructure is underground now at present um it appears that chamas is playing a sort of standoffish game while there is combat ongoing as you can see behind me um it's understood that chamas is sending small units to use rocket propelled grenades this sort of weaponry to attack israeli army whilst not not engaging fully in a head-to-head conflict with the much more powerful israeli military the question is how long can chamas play this sort of stalling game as the israeli military continues to advance it eventually you know the the idf are going to be on chamas's doorstep whether that is inside the hospital inside the israeli hospital where it's understood that much of chamas's hq is buried underground um you know sooner or later chamas are going to have to to decide if they take it on the fight this way yes indeed uh long god jesus still uh ahead fighting continues uh robert swift at 24 news correspondent down south thank you very much for this robert and um as this high-profile uh meeting uh in uh doha is taking uh has concluded rather reports that the mosad chief um david bernard is making his way back um now but while it seems that the bid to read some sort of a deal is gaining attraction uh the issue of the hostages of course remain uh the top of the agenda here in israel and this is what the israeli opposition leader here lapida told or benita levine uh earlier today on the issue of the hostages it's a good thing that we while we are prioritizing we put the hostages on the top of the list and and uh i mean along with winning this war against chamas these are two two are attached to each other so yes we will have to take some steps on the way down uh to release as many of the hostages as possible i don't want to get into details because this is uh it's a hostage situation in a hostage situation you don't want to push uh uh the intelligence out of the necessary envelope so basically yes i would go to and i would take some uh all the necessary measures in order to release as many as hostages as possible but would you release some and not all the goal of the state of israel is to release all the hostages without differentiating civilians from soldiers young from all we need to have everybody back home all 241 hostages i've been sitting with them on daily basis you know you discuss the stories you said i sat with zavikha the other day his wife and three children are has been taken hostage i said the day before with yoni his wife and two children one is four and a half and one is two and a half has been taken hostage this is heartbreaking and this needs to be solved and the entire international community should stand shoulder to shoulder with us in the in the effort to release all the hostages back here uh in the studio with dr ravi bitur and uh our very honor we are lost around dr bitur we cannot really under undermine the the significance of such a meeting that we've seen this afternoon in doha again the cia chief the head of musad and the prime minister of qatar especially as tomorrow the emir of qatar is expected to head to egypt to meet lcc you're right look it's very important because the major forces that the can speak with hamas and israel are egypt katar with hamas the cia came here the head of the cia and is representing the us and its goals and the earth of the musad our goals i believe the try to come to a suggestion that they will give to the hamas and to israel to say something i cannot i don't know i really don't know but something to do that will solve this problem about the people who have been kidnapped till then we must we must gain the time and come to the chief hospital and come and close and close the ring around the hamas terrorists to make the pressure much more okay yeah stronger and heavy and you know what at the hamas believe it or not we'll fire much more than fire today because we'll try to see to show the world and others that are still on the stage all right a real storm before we talk about other meetings that are taking place today in the region we want to head to the northern border the israel lebanon border at 24 news correspond mary mccullough sending by there with the at 24 news a team mary what's the latest there still deceiving quiet it's right ellie i don't know so much as quiet now in the past hour there's been a series of ongoing exchanges between the israeli military and hezbollah we had rocket sirens ring out in the past hour and a half the idf confirming those sirens were caused by a number of different mortar attacks which were launched from inside lebanese territory towards israeli communities the idf said that it was responding to the source of the fire taking out a number of different terror squads throughout the day inside southern lebanon hezbollah for its part set confirmed that it had fired number of different mortar attacks saying that it had launched one an attack against an infantry force belonging to the israeli military along the northern border and also saying that it targeted a number of area further north in the matulia matula area the idf confirming both of those strikes and saying it was responding forcefully to the source of both of these but it's just one in a series of different incidents that we've seen playing out throughout the day today as we continue to see anti-tank missiles being fired from inside southern lebanese territory towards israeli military positions but also some of those triggering those sirens in these northern communities which are lying really along the border important to remember of course that most of these communities within four kilometers of the border are ordered to be evacuated so all residents are supposed to have already fled within recent weeks mary mccullough on the israel lebanon border thank you very much for this much more from mary throughout the evening of course back here in the studio our real answer on we're seeing today a meeting between iranian racy and turkish irdogan and also arab league meeting in saudi arabia perhaps illustrating the two different axes of of muslim powers here in the middle east right and that's in addition to the summit humanitarian summit in paris and that the egyptian foreign minister chose to go there rather than to the emergency meeting of arab league foreign ministers taking place in riyadh ahead of emergency meeting on saturday but just to close up the previous topic please the head of hamas is maylani is currently in egypt for a meeting with cc and this comes after yesterday the prime minister of qatar who is in this trilateral meeting with the head of musad nca met with a delegation from hamas so hamas is definitely too many daughter of this uh of these negotiations but obviously you will not have israel and hamas in the same room or even cia and hamas in the same room that's why you have the closest as it gets essentially right and that's why you have katar in egypt as kind of buffers who represent meeting with hamas before the meeting today and after the meeting today so obviously they're very much in the loop look if we're talking about the different voices coming out from this it's a very diplomatic day around the world regarding this conflict perhaps the most diplomatic day that we've seen since it began and this is 34 days after i think in terms of israel's breathing room diplomatically i think this shows this is evident to the fact that this breathing room does exist from neither conference did we hear a clear forceful call for a condemnation calling israel to unilaterally cease the fire that is not what we heard we mainly heard from francis macron saying that the situation needs to change calling for a humanitarian pause and of course egypt um voicing their concern of uh displaced palestinians displaced palestinians making their way to the border i think if there's something that we can identify a bottom line coming out from these arab countries over this past month is that if there's one thing that concerns them not much the well-being of the palestinian people but they don't want this conflict reaching their borders right egypt jordan do not want to get refugees even though they're uh presenting themselves as the protectors of the palestinian people and all the discussions that we've been hearing are just a cessation of of the fighting nothing long term for the palestinians nothing to help with their plight and that i think shows how diplomacy has failed until now and it's not necessarily the avenue that will get the sides out of this moving forward the americans however are already talking about the day after indica's ship us secretary of state deb lincoln stating very clearly this week that the palestinian authority will have to be part of the of the solution and yet the palestinian prime minister in this first conference saying um today that israel is not fighting hamas but all of palestinian so how can how can we look bridge the gaps between the two they cannot say the palestinian authority we are taking this offer and we will be the ruler of ghastly because they will look on them later and say the you are traitors yeah so they say no they already said that today about the west bank by the way but really they want it very much and you know what i don't want to be a prophet and i'm not and i don't want to come back to the time when sing song for peace after the seven of october that i lost my virginity there okay me and all our nation but maybe foundation we can raise up rise up maybe the palestinian authority without our help without our help build something but it will take time and plenty long period of time that it's come tied with the first question you asked how many how many time we take that our people will be out of their houses refugees in their country yes it's all mixed together right now we must gain time to try to finish the military war well i think we have two maximum three days and it will finish all right we shall see but uh while the talks of the day after in the Gaza Strip are already underway there's also an issue the issue rather of the day after here in Israel and tonight an exclusive interview with Israeli president Isaac Herzog vowing that the Israeli society will rise up here's a sneak peek of what he told our our own laura cillier look the cup of agony and pain is filled and we are seeing real torment sadness agony tears and emotions but i told the nation last week it's extremely natural to express emotions to express fear to cry we have to go through this poor period of mourning and but we are a very resilient nation we came out of the worst atrocities in the past the worst atrocity that humanity has known and the holocaust we built a very strong nation we are an immense incredible people the people here are just amazing i fall in love with them every minute as i go out with michael to all sorts of places to see the people give you an example what we went here so yesterday three sites that gave us the again the same perception the same proportion the same understanding what an immense nation it is and so much light it has we started with the united hadzala in the headquarters down south and the people who surrounded us was a muslim doctor who was abducted by khamas and liberated by the israeli police who's a volunteer of atzala ethiomanian Ethiopian immigrants haraidi jews secular jews veterans israelis and no-camera israelis all together doing great work in helping and aiding people then we went to the home front command we saw hundreds of people working to assist the families of the hostages and coordinating all the efforts would be on on alerts and and sirens and what's not and resilience and of course dealing with the needs of all the evacuees about 230 000 and then we went to a telehealth medical center to ikhilo of to the new war rehabilitation hospital and you go in with these amazing doctors and nurses and of course these amazing soldiers and their families nobody will break us nobody we are a very strong nation we shall overcome and we shall prevail and we shall win the full exclusive interview with israeli president tonight 8 p.m israel time one p.m eastern standard time here on i-24 news of course and now trend alert anti-semitism since the massacre on october 7th anti-semitic incidents so across the globe it seems radical chic is the must-have for autumn so much so that israeli designer dodo borough gets booted from a luxury retail sites after posting documentation of the hummus massacre but now more than 1000 members of the fashion and beauty industries including some of the biggest names are going on the offensive signing an open letter urging a strong stand against anti-semitism and racism and joining us now alive from paris sofia sofia mikaily founder of paul and joe thank you so very much for speaking to us we appreciate your time so how did it all start and lots of big names already in and and we're of course are still counting what was it what was a lot of convincing needed here i mean the situation is really really bad as everybody knows and in in our business in our fashion industry our our our goal our our duty is to give pleasure is to give fun is to be to give like lightness you know in in this world and i've been personally attacked as many other jewish designer i've been personally attacked of anti-semitism of really bad really strong and it's a shame i mean it's a shame that what's happening and the the rising of anti-semitism after the horror of 7 october is there it's strong and it's bad very bad and you know sofia we saw so many as celebrities a fearful of taking a stand due to the financial ramifications yes the wallet what can we do we live in uh in the real world aren't you afraid of of literally paying the price for taking a stand no i'm not afraid i'm not afraid because uh i think that we should go all work work even more be more in our business and and we should uh of course be careful of what's happening but there is all this propaganda propaganda after 7 october after the terrible horrible horrible scene that we saw that uh this propaganda uh for palestine that is not the subject we know the subject is the attack that is the subject now is we want our hostages back with no condition and now of course after what happened you see a lot of uh people from arabic people i would say muslim people that were just you know like quiet and didn't say anything and then it's like this big big movement of hatred that comes like these people are like vomiting on us it's terrible but i believe strongly that something can happen we have first of course to have our hostages back but regarding our business as much as less as we will always show beautiful creation beautiful clothes great images people won't stop buying our brand even though we are uh jewish people jewish companies and honestly we have so many amazing amazing very powerful very strong companies owned by jewish people and then it means that the the world's gonna stop and it's not possible yeah because because we need all our companies everyone everybody needs our companies and everyone needs to take a moral stand here so so far i want to ask you you know you have all people you know fashion you know trends you know how it works um when did signing with humanity with truth came out of fashion and how can we make it it again i as i told you this time i i think honestly i think we cannot make honestly in my position and opinion we can make it again as i said before the hostages all these families kids babies other people all these people has to be released in any any condition but releasing of course i've been misty i don't want to get involved in politics i am a fashion designer so i want to talk about my business but my business is not the problem is not only about fashion but if i have to talk about my business i've been attacked i had received several of horrible messages to that people want to kill me that i i'm a i'm a uh uh jew and uh zionist and jewish and then they have they want to boycott my brand many many messages to boycott and that we receive personal also messages at the poland joe social network not only personal but also at poland joe social network it means that it became very far honestly i'm private and i've always posted peace messages but now yeah but now the industry the fashion and beauty industry is taking a stand and and and and rightfully so sofia mckaylee our founder of paul and joe thank you very much for speaking to us this is it from uh from us here uh more coverage of the war at the top of the hour israel is at war make an investment in israel bonds it is the most powerful and direct way to stand with israel visit israel bonds dot com and invest now broadcasting from israel with dozens of correspondence throughout the world brings the truth from israel to hundreds of millions of people in scores of countries completely sundown in their beds bringing israel's story to the world i 24 news channels now on hot israel is officially in a state of war this is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking within 100 soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped we just don't know anything entire families including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong everyone is showing up this is the unity our new special coverage of the war on israel 34 days since israel was attacked by hamas over 240 hostages are still in gaza fighting is continuing in and around gaza city we go straight to our correspondent i 24 news correspondent robert swift in the gaza front what's the latest robert the latest is that there's information coming out from the us with regards to the possibility of pauses on the ground now national security spokesperson john curbie has stated that it's his understanding that the is that israelis have told him that it's possible that pauses may take place in order for a humanitarian activity to take place there however curbie reiterated the fact that it is neither the israeli nor the us position that a ceasefire is uh is expected and that that both us president joe biden and israeli prime minister binu minnet and yahoo have both either stated that a ceasefire is not the correct option or that it is not something that is on the cards for now this all takes place as the israeli military is continuing to essentially to encircle and invest the the hamas infrastructure in the north of the gaza strip with the israeli military today saying that it had isolated an area that it referred to as a military quarter with headquarters and military manufacturing as well as intelligence capabilities in the north of gaza strip it said that its units had dismantled these as well as killing a number of hamas fighters in the area okay robert thank you very much for that we'll get back to you later for more details from the south here in the studio are now with me dan fefferman executive executive director of sharka and co-chair of the gulf israel policy forum sharka is of course very much involved with the ua and israel relationships we'll talk about that in length and the ron avital former commander of idf special forces good evening to you as well let's start with this announcement by the white house the fact though we had these kind of poses every day by the idf in order to have gaza and smooth from the northern part to the southern part uh what do you make of this announcement i think it's a nice new terminology no ceasefire but the pose here and then when it's needed the humanitarian causes and also if indeed some brokering of a deal it would require those poses a pose not not a ceasefire that's right that's the new policy yeah and the question is is supposed just along this uh a road uh in the middle of gaza or there's much more to it i think the two venues one of course the humanitarian and the fact that we want this flux of people going south and it's successful we see them go south i think there's a hundred thousand left only in gaza which is a good indication for us we want less civilian and uh next thing is all those rumors or rumors or leads about brokering some deal so we need those poses for the deals i think this is a this is an indication that the strategy that said go to war circle gaza and it doesn't go it doesn't contradict the idea of brokering a deal or rescuing the hostages because those are two the two objectives of the war who are currently the players around a deal i think egypt and kata some sort of competition between the two whoever would win but as i heard when i came here that is some ismail ania is in kyro it's a big deal let's see what comes out from those discussion right then let's talk a little bit about the um original effect uh we've been wondering for quite a while what would be the effect maybe the biggest challenge so far to the aborama courts how do you see this it's going to be it already is a short term challenge uh we see that uh day to day everything's been paused business relations there's nothing there's no tourism of course right now um and of course the public mood in these countries which signed the peace treaties ua e bahrain morocco is is angry it's it's it's impatient of course a very sympathetic with the palestinian civilians and that's fine what is important to note is first of all the ua in bahrain were the only two countries that issued clear condemnations of hamas the saudi while the saudis didn't officially issue such a condemnation their press if you read al arabia and arab news in english they are going after hamas while also criticizing uh israeli leadership calling for restraint of course uh civilian casualties um i i think what we're seeing what we're going to see is continued work on the abraham courts um and can maybe uh enhanced efforts to make some kind of progress on the israeli palestinian issue uh with what we call in hebrew a bear hug right uh kibuk dove um so that uh there is positive pressure coming on both sides and we're already seeing indications uh from ramallah that uh the pa which until now has been hesitant to go back into gaza on the coattails of an idf operation is now speaking in in much more positive terminology on that end i think once the dust settles and the public pressure and anger calms down we are going to see a return to the abraham courts and a return to the israel saudi talks because it's in the strategic interests of these players in the region do you think that the uh saudi move will be now even more connected to the palestinian issue than beforehand i can't imagine it being otherwise um they they realize and uh you know if hamas achieved anything out of uh of their initiating instigating this war it's going to be to make sure that the palestinian issue is front and center of course hamas wants complete destruction of israel they want not 67 they want 48 uh that they will not achieve and i don't think the region or the international community will let them achieve uh but the one thing that uh i think becomes more and more clear uh after this event and after the the uh international uh outrage and uh you know the attention that it's grabbed is that we cannot ignore this issue anymore and you see that of course it's inflaming uh the west bank which again was part of hamas's plan and so we need to deal with this constructively in a regional framework and this is what i can imagine will come out of this once the dust settles you agree today i think it's a clear there's a clear indication from the us i mean they they come to our aid but it's clear that paradoxically as it sounds as it sounds contrary to the attempt of hamas to derail this initiative the initiative would come big time and very much true it would come with emphasis on the palestinian case because bb was trying to sell it without without the palestinians with minimal concession to the palestinians there's no question that the next the the game afterwards would be a game in which the palestinian are players the saudi are players that's you whether the israelis are players yeah and that that's my next question yeah is israeli public ready under these you know circumstances yeah exactly uh to consider or what's what they take here i think it would we'll have to see what would be the end the game of this of the conflict how would it end whether we'll redeem some of our national honor in this context and we'll have be ready to come out to some kind of an arrangement with the palestinian and what's gonna going on in the west bank because the west bank now also goes in flames and we have to be very careful and what kind of a government and what kind of a political havoc will have in israel when the dust settles so many open questions all of that means time maybe even a long time and how long will this idea of the saudi initiative of the yabram accords how long could that still be on the burner i can imagine this is something that will take months before it gets back to moving and i think you're optimistic but i of course i'm an optimist that's my job but you mentioned retrieve our national pride it's more than that we have a national vulnerability a giant wound that needs healing that needs restoration we need to establish a deterrence on the the most individual level in this country and it's very hard to make peace when you feel like you're in a position of weakness and so we're gonna have a long road ahead and of course as you mentioned the political challenges that will happen the day this is done we're already seeing the the political back fighting starting starting to heat up in the background we're going to need to see i think for the israeli public to move forward on this you're gonna have to see some real leadership you're gonna have to see some real regional leadership and a different tone in voice from from the whoever the moderate palestinians across the table are going to be and i would add a new kind of leadership i think the whole political infrastructure in israel would have to change uh event like this doesn't go without uh real consequences and then we'll see whether there's a leadership and a public to follow this leadership to a new logic in the middle east and what about leadership on the palestinian side well is there's a weak leader there an old leader the question whether there's a new leadership whether there'll be possible to do it whether they can overcome this this corruption allegation and the mistrust that the palestinian have to them tricking it's not at all clear who's going to replace abbas when he steps down for whatever reasons he steps down there are of course rumors about dahlan being brought in by the gulf countries but these are of course all rumors dahlan of course has his original base of support in the gaza strip it's not clear how much support he will still have there but it's it's becoming more and more clear that you will need to work in some capacity with the the palestinian authority and uh they're going to need a lot of regional support and international support to make that happen okay stay with me meanwhile more on the uh warfront from i-24 news defense correspondent johnson breggev reports israeli flag rises high and the anthem is heard on the gaza beachfront deep inside the gaza shortly after idf tanks appear on the beach road running down the gaza city coastline step by step the idf takes on a bigger part of gaza city as the forces move forward they once again see how in gaza there's no distinction between terror and civilian infrastructure this stairway leads to a terror lab where explosives are made and suicide drones are manufactured next to it is a shaft leading to a terror tunnel and what's right next door a room where three little girls used to live right next to the terrorists the main hamas headquarters are mostly located under the gaza ground those above the ground are well entrenched in residential areas where civilians are used as human shields as opposed to hamas the idf is interested in keeping civilians away from the fight while this is happening in gaza there's no let up of the anti-terror activity in the west bank a major operation took place in the city of janin on thursday morning as idf forces entered the city under heavy fire from local terrorists palestinian reports say as many as 10 militants were killed in the operation as other israeli forces also entered the balata refugee camp in the city of nablus another terror stronghold in the west bank along with the northern border there are three constant active arenas meaning the idf is fully stretched and ready to engage on all of them yes they're on here in the studio it's getting more and more complicated yeah and how how can israel deal with that uh over time yeah i mean entering gaza we are talking about urban warfare the tunnels still civilians i'm a veteran of berut 82 but i think gaza is a real challenge and because we didn't have in berut this infrastructure of tunnels and now if you add to it the hostage issue we've not we've got the hostages i think it will be much easier we'll go much forcefully and we can finish it in a matter i think not sure days but the hostages issue it's a big challenge right now yeah uh meanwhile uh at the west bank um so far so good but today that's the janin incident this is serious this is like we had to use air power and to it's a it's escalation so we have to really try to contend it all those preventive arrests were in place of course of all those Hamas operatives and all those engagement with terror in northern samaria but still we had the terror attack of this family so tricky i hope it won't go in flame because this is not the front we want to open up right i want to ask you uh then about the um capability of absorbing by the arab world mainly the Gulf countries of what's going on here in terms of human toll in gaza and elsewhere by absorbing do you mean physically absorbing or understanding mentally i'm standing yeah it's not clear to me that the average person is seeing the extent of what's happening here i'm talking all the way from the gulf morocco where we have a community and operations and an office and in much of the world they're just not getting this news of course those who are trying to watch international news or reading you know cnn reports etc but but what we would consider to balance reporting the news certainly anything amounting to seeing the israeli perspective of things is very rare in these countries and so they're really only seeing a one-sided view of things and that's not to mention of course much of the fake news and the propaganda the hamas propaganda that's being passed around social media with a lot of intensity and a lot of sophistication by hamas and and by their backers so in much of the arab and muslim world people are not getting a full picture of of what's really taking place here yeah and you know what not only in the arab world it's it's it's a continuation of a big struggle here to get the real big honest picture i want to ask you about the cutter and their role in all of this how do you see this from your perspective cutter has long established itself as a player that can have points of leverage and so it's always on good terms with all sides and it knows how to use its leverage al jazeera is a point of leverage it's funding of muslim brotherhood including hamas is a point of leverage relations with iran is a point of leverage it's positive relations with the united states and the al-udad arab base is a point of leverage and so it can play whichever side is most beneficial to itself right now as of right now it seems that it is trying to play a constructive role we know that the director of the mosad and the cia director were both in in katar today trying to discuss a possible solution to some some of the hostages and so it seems katar is trying to use its role at least right now in a constructive manner but a lot of the incitement a lot of the radicalization of this region is also coming from al jazeera which is a katari backed and hosted and run a global news station so that always must be kept in the balance of what katar does in the role it plays right also doran they host the leadership of hamas which will eventually put them in contrast to israel sure don't and we shouldn't forget in the long run that does many of those hamas leaders would be targeted that of the mosad and the question where would we try to target them and so on uh yes but in the in the context right now the hostage dilemma is a real dilemma we need them whoever can provide any answers and they broker some kind of a deal i think we will follow it of course it would create itself a dilemma if they broker a small deal what does it mean to the other hostages and so on of course the dream of any one of us in the studio would have been of some heroic rescue operation in gaza which i'm i'm not sure the prospect that the do not exist but it's a tricky so yes they have a role to play and let's see yeah we're we're getting some some reports of maybe releasing of a very small number of people but we'll check this and get back to to this later um the ngo honest reporting claims photographer is usually employed by media outlets in gaza may have known in advance about the october uh seventh massacre senior correspondent alter or an ultimate report about this uh uh later uh that that goes back to the uh story of getting the facts out which is getting to be more and more difficult at this day and age social networks we have just before coming to the studio we saw that actually a footage of uh israeli um uh helicopters attacking terrorists are being circled as israeli helicopters killing israeli citizens that's that's how uh uh bed it is how can israel deal with it the uh role of the international media in uh granting legitimacy to internationally recognized terrorist groups is something that we've been dealt with a challenge we've been trying to deal with for a long time without much success i have to say in this conflict it seems that the international press has done a better job of reporting in a balanced manner than in past uh conflicts but if this is true the allegations that came out today that uh journalists employed by ap by roiders by cnn were embedded with this terrorist massacre uh as the the pictures seem to indicate um then this would be incredibly grave and they're gonna have to do a lot of soul searching and house cleaning inside of these uh agencies so let's first uh watch the report by oenon german pictures of the october 7th massacre not only from hamas perpetrators not only from israeli survivors but also here from photojournalists entering israel from gaza the subject of a report out wednesday from the pro israel watchdog group honest reporting what were they doing there so early on what would ordinarily have been a quiet saturday morning was it coordinated with hamas did the respectable wire services which published their photos a proof of their presence inside enemy territory together with the terrorist infiltrators the central questions are about the role of a journalist at what point is a journalist too cozy with a terrorist organization and at what point must a journalist step out and prevent a war crime at the expense of that journalist's core role documenting events and explaining reality they were there they were they witnessed terrorist attacks these people and instead of trying to stop these terrorist attacks uh they uh photographed them and to the world that they did things they were unethical one photographer a freelancer working with ap seems to have relished the attack and here is seen smiling with jr sinwar the leader of hamas in gaza if there were journalists who knew about the massacre who stayed quiet and filmed while children were being massacred they are no different from the terrorists and will share the same fate there senior israeli leader benny gants drawing his conclusion thursday with the unit of the israeli prime minister's office calling the photographers quote partners in crimes against humanity and asking media outlets for clarification as israeli's focus their anger at those they see as hamas's helpers right uh back to you how here you see the allegations not totally clear but it's nothing that we've seen before yeah if it's true then they are part of the attacking force and the verdict i think as benny gants put it very nicely there are there are terrorists and this is it but there have to be investigation we have to check whether they were implemented knew about it beforehand and joined the forces with a with a clear and well they did not carry weapons according to this they just carry cameras but yeah to be it has to be investigated but it can be argued if a camera is as dangerous as yeah cameras now are the weapon of the future it's like yeah but the weaponry of the future what do you think by the way about the uh film that was edited i didn't see it i myself let's just say 47 minutes of horror sheer horror that was edited by israel's adf you haven't seen it i haven't seen it on purpose i could have seen it i think in terms of what is needed in terms of the public opinion abroad and diplomacy for sure it has to be used i'm not sure there's very public needs to see it i think there's very public knows what happened and i think also the war is in the battlefield they know exactly what happened and they have to be coolheaded when they go yeah after the effective objective in the war so i would introduce it as a diplomatic tool but i would stop them yeah tens of thousands of israelis are displaced from their homes these days i'd want to for news amelie frances went to Jerusalem to meet some of them and some people who helped them welcome to shalva an oasis that has brought comforts to thousands of young people with disabilities and their families it began designing shalva which means peace of mind in hebrou or serenity in order to provide families with a sense of peace of mind and getting away from the chaos that ensues when a parent learns that either at birth or later the child he dreamed of was going to be with a disability of one kind or another but since the tragedy of october 7th the shalva center in jerusalem has become a safe haven for those evacuated from communities near gaza who lived through the terror of their lives so the idea is telling us you have to get out of here right now so we couldn't get out earlier because the roads were dangerous so we're locked in our town for three days um and then finally the idea says okay we'll we'll get you a safe route southwards right on the egyptian border right so this is like a whole big operation and we're we're driving down the road the in in like lines of over a hundred cars and buses with helicopters protecting us from from above and and tanks and jeeps surrounding us seo and lesham and 150 families from the small village of neve were welcomed by shalva which has been a godsend of the 700 children evacuated from their village the girls are getting a full day's education at shalva's facilities the healing has begun and every every person that comes to us and expresses their compassion and their love and their will to give and what how what can we do and how can we help um is part is part of this healing you're seeing lots and lots of folding carts these are beds that the reason the shalva center has been able to provide these resources is because a 220 000 square foot facility was built from the beginning to also serve as a national crisis response center and what you're seeing here are the preparations for us to be able to take in up to 1200 additional evacuees so here you've got beds you've got lots of sanitary uh wear and all the different provisions that we have we have downstairs in the car park dry goods enough to last us for a month we have the entire building is 11 stories high but a number of those are below ground we're built into the side of the mountain and that provides a natural safe space shalva has also been a lifeline for dozens of at-risk teen girls from abusive homes who are part of the edin center which is located near gaza edin girls loved and on kibbutz karmia which is on the northern border of of gaza a beautiful quiet kibbutz from the boarding school you could actually see the view was a view of gaza boarding school was actually targeted and hit by rocket and there was a lot of damage made over there so them not having school that day is why they're alive today them not having school today is why they're alive today you could say that it was we said it was a miracle and for caro ron the education manager of edin she says being with shalva kids with disabilities has been the best medicine for her teens i think it's special for them they're seeing that there's other types of people around they're seeing that they know they've got their own issues to deal with but they're looking and seeing that there's people with different issues and sometimes more difficult issues but i think that mainly it makes them happy they always greet the young people they who are working or being treated there in the elevators they always play with little kids no question it will be a tearful goodbye once everyone is able to return home to the south and all agree that the support of the team has given them the courage to return home with more strength we're going back we'll take a short break we'll be right back here on i24 news with more special coverage and some new details about the hostages we'll be right back officially in a state of war this is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking within a hundred soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped we don't want to do we just don't know anything entire families including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong everyone is showing up this is the unity work of special coverage of the war i24 news live in northern israel with the latest from there mary hi good evening yako it's been a bit quieter here on the lebanon border but today saw significant exchanges of fire between israel and hezbollah hezbollah saying it's targeted a number of different israeli observation posts and military units along the border saying specifically it tried to target an infantry force in a community very near the border that attack causing sirens to ring out in two separate communities along the border the idf also saying confirming these attacks happened but saying it was responding forcibly to the sources of the fire and we know from inside lebanon reports of significant artillery significant shelling on numerous areas inside lebanese territory the idf says it will continue to respond to any threat coming from its northern border and today we see many incidents just like the one i described hezbollah throwing missiles and other attacks at idf observation posts other idf infantry in the unit and the idf responding using a variety of different means both airstrikes and shelling okay mary thank you very much for that back in the studio here with me are dan fafferman executive director of sharka and co-chair of the gulf israeli policy forum and dorona detail former commander of idf special forces there's a word coming from a spokesperson of the slavic jihad in gaza saying they are going to release two hostages that's what he says one is 76 year old hana katsir who's there in the hands of pij presumably and the other one is 12 year old yogi liakov both of them are from the anirose kibbutz that was overtaken by hamas on october 7th that's what's the pij the palestinian islamic jihad is saying right now they said they're going to release them they also released a piece of video of them speaking we're not going to show that this stage what do you make of this drone think we have to celebrate any such progress i saw the video a minute ago but it really emphasized that the strategy to go over the two objectives simultaneously putting the military pressure on gaza and trying to release hostages there was no other strategy if there were people that were thinking differently they were wrong this is how we do it and i'm glad those two people are i hope will be released yeah it was uh believed that all of the airstrikes are under hamas but i don't think so i think they are scattered it's not clear where they are i mean we did appoint the idea if appointed nitzan alone a great general to overview us and recreate reception was the hamas controls the show yeah exactly but i think they also might be at civilians families you don't know how does it go and i don't know how much of course we cannot know what what kind of intelligence we have about where they are scattered and where the localities where they are being held if we would know we could be more effective in trying to rescue them so let's see overall the islamic jihad is being controlled by hamas in many ways i think they were in sync in this war in this war in this vicious attack in the past this was part of the decoy of the hamas we felt that maybe there's some separation that the hamas goes pragmatically practical taking care of civilian issues while the jihad is shooting rockets it turns out it was a decoy and in the end they attacked us in sync where hamas of course is leading the attack let me bring in uh valet faris um thank you very much for joining us um i want to talk to you about syria but before we do that um i like your reaction about this latest news from israel another maybe trip of releasing hostages from gaza how do you see this well i heard the conversation very interesting and indeed my conclusion and those with whom i uh you know reflect upon the matter is that hamas is the big controller uh and i agree with the statement that islamic jihad and other factions as well that they can create as they move forward uh our decoys or our arms that hamas use and above hamas obviously this whole matter in my view is coordinated with the pasdaran and the kuzh force this is more of a regional as much as as local gaza israel confrontation so the hostages are used in a strategy in a strategy is to gain time i think most experts believe and there is one last possibility if the israeli forces are really surrounding the last quarters or last square those hostages will be used to protect and defend the commanders and the leadership who are inside that square yeah as a human shield that's so what yeah that's the wrong one of the uh concerns this is one option and in this case there could be go out the way either rescue operation as we did in the past but which would be a real challenge or a deal brokered in this context which would mean something like the berut plo maybe this scenario i've been in the port when the plo were uh me too by the way i know we haven't met but yeah i was there the commander and we were like actually i was a reporter yeah for uh exactly so this is also a scenario and i'm not sure it's visible some people think not but it's actually wouldn't be surprised to see such a scenario play out where the senior hamas commanders get a ticket a safe ticket out of gaza to exactly where katar maybe katar although katar is going to be under pressure i think from the from the us and the other gulf states maybe turkey um but uh but they might use the remaining hostages as a ticket as a ticket to have a safe exit out of the gaza strip um and i won't be surprised to see a scenario like that yeah what if for us would you agree yeah that's actually the theory i was trying to advance that this is the last you know investment they have and they would sell that investment in a form of tickets uh if they are to the point where they are settling on a agreement with israel or with the mediators that we save the leadership of hamas and we pay you with the hostages as exactly was said 1982 another form of that kind of agreements under the circumstances the wrong that might be acceptable by face to as well would accept it we have a long war with hamas we can continue it in the future we had it in the past this is not the issue the hostages is that is a dilemma that the israeli public can't go without investing the max it can in other things back we did it with one soldier we would do it with 240 of our civilians right uh well let me uh talk to you about syria uh asad has indicated before that he was not interested in a conflict with israel we've seen this in the past years uh this is not going to change now no it's not going to change on the strategic level the regime has 10 years a whole decade of fight against uh his own opposition mostly islamist opposition ikhwan and jihadist so the imminent direct danger to his regime is not israel but let's not remember and not forget that asad's regime is um i don't want to say control but is within a much larger front or axis that starts from tehran to iraq to syria to beirut and then on the other hand he cannot leave that axis alone if the iranians are deploying their past around for other units in in syria and the goal is against the united states forces asad has to be on the defensive has to allow them to do a lot of operations i don't think he is in the business of mounting an offensive against israel barely he can withstand his own problems now we've seen some airstrikes in eastern syria by the us and maybe even by israel as well how much of that can asad absorb well first of all let's try to distinguish between two things there is an israeli strategy of maintaining engagement with any iranian threat coming from iraq to syria to labya all these ballistic missiles so on and so forth but that's an israel parameter the american strategy in iraq in syria is to maintain their units till a certain negotiation will happen or some changes on the ground the iranian militias are getting the instructions from iran to engage them and push them and you see that our forces are getting fire and missiles and rockets our response is i would say even less than equal because there are instructions i believe from washington is not to engage not to escalate because of the iranian deal but if these militias are going to be crossing some red lines like there will be actual casualties real casualties felt here in washington then the us by laws of engagement will have to escalate against them and i want to ask you the wrong here in the studio about the american line here americans do not you know like boots on the ground but not everything is boots on the ground they have other options of course they help us they help us with the hooty with the interception they help us deterring khizballah and deterring iran they help us also in syria i think they definitely are here and of course this means a trade-off they help us and when it ends they want to see a new middle east and we'll have to play along go be collaborative if such attempt to set up this region and many in the Gulf are watching to see is there any change in american policy american policy is really policy they're going to want to see changes in behavior here at the end of the day what interests a lot of these players in the region is stability and they want to see which are the players that are pushing for stability who is acting out of a rational decision making and not out of anger and emotions and i think this needs to be kind of the new motto that trends here in the middle east the americans by the way it's reported they're also flying drones unarmed drones searching for the hostages in in gaza of course there are a number of american citizens or dual citizens who are being held there and and i agree with what you said the americans are here it's their direct involvement the warships that i think is preventing in large part the iranians and their their various proxactors from escalating and we we do have to take into account also american concerns and considerations part of the agreement to the four-hour windows which it seems it's going to be a nightly thing is in part due to american pressure america's staving off the pressure for ceasefire but but this is a sort of a compromise that i think we'll have to agree to for the foreseeable future meanwhile let me just reiterate their breaking news the islamic jihad in gaza is announcing that it is going to release two hostages one is a grandmother 77 year old the other one is a boy 12 year old they are not related they are from the same kibbutz but they are not related and according to the announcement by the spokesperson there excuse me they are going to be released with no conditions so no news but this more than that that's what that's what we have at this stage so we're obviously keep following what's happening now if if that happens valide should we expect more in this in this direction does it mean they are under pressure there let me say something about the hostage situation the ceasefire and the pause that we hear about debates here and then i'll i'll conclude there is a consensus of the mainstream in in america in in the u.s. that a ceasefire because a ceasefire is very complicated has conditions it has mechanisms it has a third party observation they know israel is not in the business of a ceasefire as long as they are moving forward at least in northern gaza but the other idea that has been actually allowed by prime minister of israel or said fine we go with this and now it takes it gets attraction in washington is a safe area for the families and the citizens of gaza who are fleeing south in what is more and more in washington is that the israelis actually on the ground have created those passages you hear secretary blinkin the white house everybody talking about these safe passages the idea is to minimize uh you know palestinian or gaza citizens casualties if they can move to an area where hamas doesn't have the bulk of its forces that's number one it's a much better condition but the trail of this that's who will assume responsibility of this population and my impression is that if enough civilians are gathered away from the bulk of the operations then they need to be talks with egypt and with the let's say the members of the abraham accord they need also to either escalate their humanitarian aid their financial aid and if needed and that needs of course egypt in this case to assume responsibility and to declare that this zone is for refugees and by international law we feel that we are there to also take part in this operation this operation it's too early to talk about it but that's i would say what would be better in washington as an option for the near future all right thank you for that meanwhile two international conferences on the israeli hamas conflict took place today one in paris and the other in riyadh both so-called for immediate ceasefire amid a report of a trilateral meeting between the heads of the mosad cia and qatari prime minister that's over the hostage deal of course italy funny is ariel saran has more of that day 34 of the fighting between israel and hamas and gaza and on thursday diplomacy finally took a frenzy in doha the heads of the cia and the mosad met with the qatari prime minister to discuss the parameters for a hostage release deal and a pause in the fighting according to a report in reuters the trilateral meeting came after qatari mediators met hamas officials on wednesday night to discuss a potential deal the meeting comes a day before qatars amir travels to egypt to meet with president asisi and cairo where hamas chief ismail ania is currently visiting qatar is adamant on continuing its effort based on our policies and humanitarian values related to the release of all civilian hostages our goal is to return them to their families but also to our brothers in gaza to be able to live in safety and security israeli leaders have so far shot down any talk of a ceasefire until hamas frees all 239 hostages including 35 children but in a humanitarian conference on gaza in paris french president manan mccown called for a ceasefire while egypt's foreign minister rejected attempts to displace palestinians to egypt today the situation is grave and is getting worse each day in the short term we should work on protecting civilians and to do so we need a humanitarian pause very quickly and we have to strive for a ceasefire this should become a possibility we condemn all practices aimed at imposing a new status quo a force in palestinians to flee forcibly transferring them and removing them from the lands the number of displaced persons in gaza has reached two-thirds of its population this is in itself another serious violation of international humanitarian law meanwhile in riyadh saudi arabia hosted a gathering of foreign ministers from the arab league ahead of the league's emergency meeting on saturday and so over a month since hamas is onslaught on southern israel the middle east is showing unity in at least one thing fear of the conflict spreading into a broader regional escalation well at first i want to go back to you and ask you how do you see the regional effect of this war in the month to come well from the beginning my position wasn't even in my book published before this war the projection was that iran's regime is has conducted all these coordinations with all these i call them the jihadi organization that includes hamas of course has ballah and the rest in in the purpose of decoying the attention of the world that's coming from the the term decoy why because the iranian regime was very concerned about the rapprochement the possible rapprochement between saudi arabia and israel that would have created facts in the region along with the air coalition and abraham accord that would have been hugely negative for the iranians so to do so you're gonna create a clash between israel and gaza in this case second let's not forget that one year ago one of the largest revolution took place inside iran and what would a regime like iran do to get rid of the attention and they were concerned that the west and the arab will start to support that revolution is war when they are caught inside and they are afraid about the loss of the regime they would engage in a war nobody talks about the iranian revolution so that tells me that they're going to continue with this war one way or another one pressure or another to gain as much time as possible and his ballah what about their point of view his ballah is totally linked to the iranian regime that totally coordinate with them there's no room as some in the west believe that his ballah has his own analysis they are and hassan israel has said so many times on tv but strategy of his ballah is not to launch an emotional military attack like this no it is controlled they they have this line of contact with israelis and that's for the media and for the fact that there is solidarity among the the battlefields as they call them but his ballah also though they have a military power to hurt israel or the civilians in israel inside lebanon it's not as united as it seems there are plenty of areas that opposes his ballah and nobody knows if there is a full engagement between israelis and his ballah that these areas may stay or not stay under the control of his ballah and his ballah knows that uh it's geo politics inside lebanon do not exceed three islands one is the dahi that's the southern suburb of of beirut the other one is the south nabatiyah and the rounding and then one in the northern beqa the rest of the country is not actually with his ballah despite what we see in the media look so well as far as i thank you very much thank you for having me so um after these uh months the middleist will be quite different i think hamas the the brutality and scope of the attack crossed a threshold that the moderates can no longer ignore um and there is going to be if not publicly at least behind the scenes i i think we're already starting to see it a much more united front and a determination um of the threat the looming threat that is posed uh by these as well they'd call them these jihadi organizations the the axis of resistance will call it that's all linked to iran by the way what he said about his ballah is actually right they have lost a lot of their legitimacy inside lebanon after their role in the syrian civil war and it's it's not at all clear that they that they think from an internal legitimacy point they can enter this war and come out of it will we see a clearer line between the moderates the moderate and extremists in the region that's the possibility that's the hope the question is is how will israel approach this um will we will israeli decision makers look more at um dealing with the sense of israeli vulnerability or as you called it reclaiming israeli honor which is a very serious thing that needs to be dealt with or in a more strategic long-term manner working with regional partners working with the international community the international community the gulf countries the saudis i think behind the scenes the egyptians and and the other moderates recognize that hamas cannot stay in power cannot be a player in this anymore the question is is how do we deal with it do we take a deep breath do we take a slightly more long-term view of course this doesn't have to all and immediately we have other capabilities um to deal with hamas beyond the borders of god or duran the problem may have a different name it's called iran exactly i think there are two scenarios like always we look after the future one scenario the conflict with hamas is contained we hunt hamas hamas we eliminate hamas it ends there original rearrangement we are becoming more progressive together with our allies i mean us europe and our allies in the area we go to a better future but the conflict can escalate in different direction that we can't expect the as we say west bank his balance still up maybe the most powerful enemy we have right now and right now we have a problem we can't even return our citizen to the north as long as his bala threatens them in this way so the two scenarios coexist i wouldn't predict which one we take whether we are still going through a long conflict then we can imagine right now it's also a possibility or that is contained with it gaza uh what if this thing ends just before uh any uh a certain outcome you know any any clear cut yeah this is this would be hard this would be hard to have hamas still in gaza and clashes and skirmishers this is something this is an outcome that i don't see the israeli public can take though we have to admit it the task of eliminating ha hamas is a big task it's not a simple one so i think the next main junction is of course the hostage dilemma we'll see then we'll see where we are i thank you very much both of you thank you and my colleague laura laura selie spoke today with israel's president isaac erzog here's part of the interview that will be aired later this evening take a look now i gave a 28 minutes interview to the bbc to a very distinguished interviewer who came especially to meet me and she actually knows me for many years and they they left only six minutes chopping it by the way and editing it in a very negligent way it's not my job to go and start quarreling with them but i'm i must say i'm quite dismayed and i would have hoped differently and and and but it's not only the bbc there's a kind of this school of thought in certain quarry quarters of the western world that does not understand that this is a war on their life on their ability to enjoy decent liberal modern progressive democratic life or any other ability to live well even if it's not a democratic country nonetheless at the end in the most of the rank and file of the international leadership understands this and they are taking a firm position supporting israel and i am seeing expressions of support day in day out by leaders predominantly of course president biden vice president harris and the entire us administration and both sides of the island congress but also in definitely as you know united kingdom france germany and many many other important nations so the world understands the world we live in with digital impacts of you know of brainwashing like tiktok and other things does not explain to the average person the complexity of this situation and the clear need for moral clarity i would like to reiterate what prime minister netanyahu said just yes two days ago there will not be any ceasefire without release of hostages and the whole the whole discussion about humanitarian poses i must tell you i haven't seen or i'm i'm unaware of any response from the khamas side to any of these ideas i see a lot of news a lot of spins a lot of background noises that come from third parties nothing is is put on the table we are progressing dramatically within the gaza territory to uproot khamas infrastructure and our military is doing an incredible job it's very complicated challenging dangerous but they're doing an outstanding job to uproot the ability of khamas to have military capabilities and to uproot their infrastructure so that they won't be able to rule gaza laura 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applied our excavation methodologies by collecting the burnt remains sifting through them and searching for even the most minute evidence that could help us identify individuals that were missing i24 news special coverage our correspondent robert swift in the gaza front with the latest from there robert we are we do live so the the latest information is the the release of what you can essentially consider a propaganda video from the palestinian islamic jihad showing two of the hostages that are held inside gaza this is a reminder that it's not just khamas that are holding hostages it is also palestinian islamic jihad a smaller arm group operating within the the gaza strip the hostages that have been shown are hannah katsir who is 77 years old and yagil yakov who's just 12 years old now um this the the families of of these two individuals have asked that this video not be shown um but as you can understand there is a lot of pressure here uh both within within israeli society uh regarding the release of this pressure and it appears that the the armed groups within gaza are trying to leverage this to a certain extent and are showing these videos as part of it now the the spokesperson for palestinian islamic jihad uh said that the group was willing to release two individuals um and you can understand that that is part of this uh this essentially this attempt to leverage these hostages now where i'm standing now is an event that's taking place on the israel gaza border where um organizers of this event that i'm standing at are using laser displays to show the names of those who are being held and they're showing the name of every single individual who's understood to be in captivity inside gaza and the event itself is running for several hours that obviously gives you an idea of how many people are held there well over 200 people right uh robert swift thank you very much uh at the gaza front uh with me here in the studio ambassador daniel alone former israeli ambassador to the united states thank you very much for coming then uh what do you make of this should we call it gesture by islamic jihad i don't even know how to call it i think they're under a lot of pressure i think that their ploy of trying to gain time by um letting you know dripping the uh release of the um the the hostages like ten at a time did not work i think the americans understood that this is not feasible not sustainable and meanwhile the operation on the ground goes full full force so at the end of the day it seems like the dilemma will be theirs whether to release all of them because this is the israeli demand if you want a real ceasefire release all of the hostages um regardless of their nationality age gender what have you and so far it seems like the hamas is not uh willing to do that islamic jihad which i'm not sure in how much in cooperation it is with hamas but if they have these humanitarian cases all ladies who are in dire need for special medicine or uh young boys who are asthmatic or or it seems like it's they they believe that maybe they will gain a little bit of goodwill by letting them off without anything in return so it seems like we are now in a kind of a touch and go situation where it's a it's a real um uh psychological warfare i mean who will really break first and it seems like israel is not going to uh to relent because for us if we prematurely stop the operation then everything was uh for not and this is not also the end goal of the americans want to read gaza from hamas right this is just an announcement nothing happened yet we should emphasize this they said they are going to be uh released and in the background uh there's a lot of noise about a deal but nothing seems to be happening really because the parameters are so far away right and it seems like the uh so far what we have seen was the the leaks that came out of katar and egypt so these leaks were trying to actually um be on the side of the hamas and maybe really working with uh and and and putting the psychological pressure trying to on the israeli government but mostly mostly on the uh real poor families of the uh of the hostages and by uh saying that there is some kind of progress and that for it was just something that was not real to begin with they started with five days this was the leak you know from katar five days uh ceasefire four 15 hostages so um this just fell flat on the ground was not believable uh the fact that um bill burns the head of the cia was in katar and here and in egypt and is you know that means the americans are really putting a lot of pressure to find and and and and get some kind of a deal but so far it seems like as you mentioned jacob there the difference is so far you know the gap is at this point is unbridgeable um let me uh then he um listened now together with you uh to the next voice um this is a sound bite from renan agome mother of yagil uh who was kidnapped uh from nero's the 12 year old let's take a listen i would just want the world to enlist to the effort of releasing them um as soon as possible mainly children uh 32 children from the age of nine months to the age of 17 that were taken from their homes just imagine it was your child taken from your home from their own bedroom in your house taken dragged into a tunnel somewhere uh thrown into the darkness children should not be imprisoned and certainly should not be kidnapped and held hostages for almost a month now and they are not bargain chips in a war game they're not part of this and this is not a war it was a terror attack a horrific terror attack the mother of a 12 year old who's in the hands of islamic jihad in gaza and according to their announcement he might be released soon together with the 77 year old grandmother they are not related uh the grandmother is there uh with the kid um back to you danie here uh in the studio this is getting to be uh really uh emotionally straining an israeli public and i think the stand sentiment is not getting you know very positive uh as to the uh ceasefire or end of fighting in gaza right and the challenge actually of the government and all those officials who are in charge of um bringing the hostages back is how to direct the angst and the frustration of the families towards the international community and not towards the government because this is what hamas wants hamas has had a phenomenal success with gilat shalit where the entire country was mobilized against the government in order to call for the release of gilat shalit and actually uh 11 more than 1100 uh you know murders were released one of them of course is yihye sinwar which is the mastermind of the massacre of the october 7th so this is a real cruel situation but when you talk about national security where you really talk about the um let's say the interest of the country of course it is to have all the hostages released but not at any price you know the leaders uh they don't have the guts to say it but at the end of the day it is a trade off unfortunately and so far what hamas has as we mentioned what hamas has offered just to release 15 or 12 or even 20 hostages for uh you know two three four days of ceasefire is just not acceptable right at least not at this point with us also is uh dr fadi ismail from the international institute for counterterrorism thank you very much for joining us how do you see these developments of the past couple minutes um if you talk about the the the hostages look we knew at that some point they will become unfortunately like a chip to be you know they become almost unfortunately like commodity that people trade in this is horrible but that is the way it is this is the way of the world this is the way of of negotiations we have a very difficult legacy to overcome like uh uh dania as i said uh he mentioned gildschild but let's go back to the 80s we already had the jibri the famous infamous jibri deal until that point everybody knew that israel does not do that we just have we used to send say that what car and either release or not release whoever is there so there is a very heavy hell legacy that needs to be overcome hamas would not have done what it did without this legacy because anticipated ashalee the thousand times over something like that and from what i'm seeing now there is this horrible realization within the israeli public that there will be no no end to this this is one of those sophie's choice moments where all choices are horrible and it is just this is how we define dilemma a moment when audio choices are bad but this is not just bad this is horrible um i don't know what this is right thing to do i don't know what it is my gut tells me something but it doesn't it's not knowing and we have to know that this is going to be a moment of a national crisis into the future because no matter what the outcome let's say tonight say nahal say i'll go on i don't know who manages to find all of the all of them and bring them back home let's suppose let's take this scenario i wish but that's we will still have the memory of this debate it will come out somewhere sometime and uh this is something that we will talk about the next few years right now we are inside this tactical mayhem that we're in uh we have the troops and guys are doing what they have to do also on the northern border and it's not forget it things are heating up there and um if anybody knows what is the the correct solution here i would like to know it because i don't have it definitely nothing in the books no no but it seems like it's you know you're right if that is right there's only a bad choices to choose from but it seems like the only i would say logical way to continue is put the pressure on hamas and without this pressure on hamas then they can take their time and the moment they will realize i'm not sure if they still have their command and control chain you know if it's still intact but at some point you'll have to put the dilemma on them that it's their lives or the life of the of the hostages there was some talk about maybe a sort of a mega deal everybody for everybody and hamas leadership gets a free pass out of gaza do you see this in the cards okay let's separate two things what i would like to happen what my emotions are telling me and then let the the brain the game the game theorist and me get into it there will probably be something like that sometime and it will be a moment of great crisis inside inside israel because many people will disagree to it and on the street and and i can't blame them but i guess that because there's so many international interests involved when hamas attacked israel he did not attack israel it attacked an international order that the whole world wants to bring back online so when i'm thinking back to the 1973 war something similar happened there was this big crisis at the beginning the big surprise the big whatever and then the idea of collected itself waited for a mistake from the egyptian side they made a mistake and then the whole world changed and so on and it ended up very badly for the aggressor that said although the idea was in huge momentum forward and there was a moment i mean israel could have that moment like truly humiliated both egypt and syria truly that's when the international committee kicked in read the united states government mostly and said stop you need to sign these agreements and gold and diane and those guys had absolutely no other choice but to sign those and if we recall there was enormous public anger same dynamic and i think the same dynamic will happen here because the feelings will still be there the heart the anger the fear the the drive to revenge which is understandable it's not a nice word to say but we are people in the end and i think there will be something like that if it will be just exchanging prisoners then hamas won all the way that has to be clear cannot be that if it will be exchange of prisoners in a way that as you said let's say the upper middle level of hamas leaves the country and and they cannot go to syna they have to leave the camp because also egypt will not let them to be inside maybe katar or baby turkey i was as far as concerned i can tell you where i would like to sit and gone but i can't we're on air i believe right okay here we are so maybe not and the point is but we have tried that one like sending them out to the country and then we got the jubilee deal the outcome of the jubilee deal so maybe something like that but it cannot be a situation where there's an equal exchange it just can't be it has to be something that will enable the people of the hotel to go back to their homes it has to be that we cannot leave them under the threat there has to be a change in the end that removes the threat now what how to remove the threat can be interpreted and you are the senior diplomat among us can have many meetings meaning many many meanings to it so what does it actually mean what does it actually entail uh i don't know to tell you but that is a good beginning this is basically the yes or a fat model um it actually worked in a sense i mean it did if by the way if after him leaving berut it would have withdrawn all the way to the international line the 1982 war would have been considered a giant success so maybe this is the key just throw them out and get the boys and girls back home safe and repopulate the uh so the people seem and so on maybe that's the key i don't know but it has it cannot be equal just can't be that yeah i think that's uh perception in israel one all the way meanwhile in the aftermath of the nova rave party where at least 260 young people were murdered by hamas investigators are still trying to piece together the full story here's more in the next report this huge open air site bears the scars of hamas massacres here hundreds of scorched bullet riddled and ransacked cars belonging to the victims and survivors of the nova festival on the ground investigators are screening the whole area their objective to identify the owners of the vehicles uh the first job is any cars that we found human remains in we want to make sure that no human remains are pretty much being sent to the trash so so they go through and they sift through everything to try to find all the remaining um all the remains left um and the second thing is if if we have anybody who we don't know what happened to them we don't know if they if they were murdered or if they were kidnapped an effort that has already paid off laura recounts how taking refuge with her husband and five friends in the caravan saved their lives we were in the trailer from 8 a.m to 2 p.m the terrorists tried to open the trailer they shot at the trailer they tried to burn it they wanted to kidnap us i think i came because i'm trying to find answers to why all my friends are dead and i am alive how did this plastic thing save our lives it just doesn't make any sense safe in sound but still in shock laura hopes one day to find the strength to go to musical events again i've been wondering for a month if i'll ever be able to go dancing at a festival i know that my friends who are no longer here would like us to continue for the moment i haven't got on with my life i don't sleep i don't eat sadly it's still a long way from dancing but i think it's our duty to a certain extent noam alone who has also come in search of answers is hoping for the release of his girlfriend we know that she tried to escape from the terrorists but at one point she was caught because she couldn't keep running later hamas released a video showing four terrorists around her we see her wounded we hope she's alive this is the last piece of evidence of her being alive i came here today to ask our government to do everything in its power to bring back the hostages even if we have to release palestinian prisoners supply them with fuel or sign a ceasefire a short distance from the site investigations are continuing in reham where the nova festival took place 270 people were slaughtered by hamas on october 7 and with me now in the studio is ron azulai hi ron thank you for coming thank you for giving me the opportunity you knew six people at this party that did not come back yeah tell me about them well one of my best friends antonio massias went to the rave party near kibbutz reham and came back in a coffin he was one of my best friends i don't know i don't know i can't imagine that he's not with us today um he loved to go to rave parties um we woke up like the rest of the country at 6 30 am to sirens luckily for me uh my room is a safe room so i went back to sleep after i saw that nothing has happened just another rocket or something yeah exactly like everybody else yes and um i woke up later uh in the morning and i opened the whatsapp and i saw that antonio told us that he was in a rave party near kibbutz reham and um i started getting stressed because i knew that uh they started kidnapping people it was later that day they were start kidnapping people and uh shooting people just sheer evil and uh he told us that's like something's crazy going on and he doesn't know what's going on they went inside a safe room a portable safe room uh on two three two uh road near kibbutz reham um it's a very famous like a lot of videos show the exact safe room and um they started throwing grenades and um start shooting everyone uh a mutual friend of me and antonio um his uh brother who was with antonio he got saved uh you can see on the picture antonio is laying on the ground with the beige uh sweatshirt on his back the guy that stands in the in the entrance he threw seven grenades out on the eighth grenade he couldn't catch it and it was he got exploded and uh uh he died the guy um my friend he was with his girlfriend yvonne um she got killed as well um she had a son uh four-year-old son of iel and uh he had a small daughter six years old uh it's not the same it's not uh everyone brought his their own kids kid yeah and uh they just said okay it was it was a first site connection between them they are columbians and seeing what the columbian minister prime minister said about that it was an accident it just balls my blood really but what about yourself did you consider going to the party or it's not you know it's not something i do um antonio he liked to go to those parties uh it's not uh my cup of tea um as well as antonio and yvonne uh he had a different group for rave parties um as well as them uh two of other friends of his i knew them but uh they were friends but not as close as antonio um tomas segev and dan ben chemo also died while partying they just went to party and uh found their death in the party did you get any communication from columbia except for the famous statement well antonio's family did an interview for the columbian television and uh they told the story of antonio and yvonne um but nothing nothing than that are you in touch with other families in other families of your friends yes are you in touch with them yeah i'm in touch with them they all they all shocked about what happened uh he was a very very uh friendly guy they let everyone around him feel like they were his best friends always optimistic thinking about him dead it's it's unimaginable it's it's i can't describe it because he was so alive and we are talking about 260 people at least only in this party exactly unbelievable unimaginable ronnie thank you very much for coming and telling this story thank you for antonio thank you very much we should do best thank you many many terrible stories 34 days after the attack families of israeli hostages demand answers and they are not getting any neither from the international red cross here's more in the next report dozens of people are setting up a presence next to the kineset in jerusalem they're gathering to protest against the government and to call for the immediate release of the israelis abducted to gaza during the hamas onslaught of october 7th both of mao's yinon's parents were burned alive in moshav nativ haasara my father was a farmer and each year would seed wheat in the land and one year there will be a drought the second year there will be floods the third year insects the fourth year the prices would collapse worldwide it would have no one to sell the product to he would always say next season i'm going to see it again the future will be a better future and i'm continuing his legacy and i'll keep sitting the seeds of hope the seeds of love and of peace bruchia reyman the sister of yahuda cats a missing idf soldier from the first lebanon war 41 years ago also came to support the protesters there is a big difference regarding the social media and the exposure to the world at that time we didn't even have cellulars so in that aspect it's completely different but basically when a country sends soldiers or citizens to live next to the front we'll take a short break we'll be right back is officially in a state of war this is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking within a hundred soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped entire families including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong everyone is showing up this is the unity our special coverage mary mcgallow phytophonious correspondent is in the north live with the latest from their merry hi okov yes it remains to be a bit of a quiet evening here today we know there's ongoing shelling going on in some parts of southern lebanon that's coming from lebanese reports from inside but we haven't had any reports of activity from the idf in a few hours but that's not to say there wasn't a number of different activities launched throughout the day the idf said that it struck forcibly a number of different hezbollah targets inside southern lebanon who launched a number of different attacks across the border targeting the idf including an infantry unit right along the israel lebanon border and targeting a number of other different areas this area saw a number of mortar attacks across the border today those mortar attacks also setting off sirens and some communities that were evacuated in recent weeks most of the communities within the israel lebanon border at least five kilometers have been told to evacuate because they do remain within this anti-tank range and we do continue to see that there is no shortage of the anti-tank missiles that hezbollah has and it continues to routinely use them to target both the idf but also civilian areas mary thank you very much for the update uh back to the studio here with daniel alone former israeli ambassador to washington and dr fadi ismail from the international institute for counterterrorism um let's talk about what's happening right now in the southern city of alat sirens again there was uh some sort of explosion earlier today there apparently the address is yemen ambassador alon what's going on with yemen well we have the hoodies which are chiites and they have actually started a uh military campaign a few years ago against the legitimate government of yemen and of course immediately they were supported by iran and iran again shows the uh the real i would say the full um threat from iran to the entire region and when they said that uh they are aiding the hamas they're doing it but not with their own blood you know they would fight till the last yemen they would fight the iranians till the last palestinian or lebanese but the fact is that iran is the uh is the head of the snake if you will this is what we understand this is what the south is and all the other sunni countries understand in the region this is what the united states understand and there should be some reckoning after this war what to do with iran which is backed up by russia and china why wait we have american forces here we have israeli forces what about deterrence deterrence of course that will come after we do the job look i think we're already beginning to see some sort of a rebuild of that perception of israeli might no one expected this response from israel no one did and uh when you listen very closely into into the tone in arabic speaking media in different countries yeah a lot of anger a lot of uh you know calling israel names all that that's okay but when what is underlying all this is a sense of shock like what are we going to do now especially listen to the egyptians uh they are the the the uh the media personnel is like they're trying to wrap their heads around the idea of hey the israelis are striking back and they're going crazy that so when you talk about deterrence i think it is beginning to build up beginning back so i don't know if that's good news i don't like war in general but that's what it is sometimes we need to do that as far as the other issue with iran uh i've said it also before the war is not israel hamas yes it is tactically on the field but they are here international axes that are reorganizing along new international order uh there is the american sunni american european sunni arab to india axis and then you have the other one china iran russia and so on and and what hamas did on on october 7th is messing up with the most probably the most critical brick in this axis which is a connection i couldn't contact in israel and saudi arabia that would have changed world's economy and they just threw a wrench into that wheel and so the interests here are very big they weigh more than what we talk about here locally you know it's all normal maybe it is all combined let me ask you ambassador and i along the oldest question what would have happened if some southern american country would have fired a missile towards the united states arizona i don't know what would have happened i can tell you a short story when we visited the white house in 2001 after 9 11 it was ariel sharon was the prime minister and george bush door w was the president and mr sharon was trying to explain to him you know what it is for the for a sovereign country to receive missiles how you have to act and so he told us the the president uh mr president i'm sure if texas would receive some rockets uh from mexico in one hour there wouldn't be mexico and and bush looks at cv says why one hour in 10 minutes so this is how countries react right but still they're firing uh nobody around likes them neither the southeast nor the americans who are in the in the Gulf with their ships and everything no reaction so far well the the united states what biden has expressed so many times and also the blink and the secretary of state is that they do not want the war to spill over and actually they brought in all the aramans and the strike groups for deterrence in order not to enlarge the war because they want to limit it to uh gaza to hamas they say let's just uh take them one by one if the victory over hamas will be very decisive then maybe we'll not have to worry about another front now they also have a very specific goal in mind and that is to eliminate hamas as an entity uh certainly is a governing entity in in gaza they're already thinking about the day after nobody knows who will govern gaza after the military operation is done but one thing is certain hamas will not be the one meanwhile art of itwin fernios correspondent pierre clochandler was at the nitzana border crossing with egypt between israel and egypt and filed the following report we're at the nitzana border crossing between israel and egypt and these are trucks that are going to cross to egyptian territory reach the rafa border terminal and transfer food water and medicines to the gaza strip to the non-involved palestinian population there this is like a life supply for that population it carries um all kind of food supplies energy bars water as i said medicine 100 trucks a day more or less are reaching the rafa terminal from egypt and crossing into gaza the colonel that is in charge of the whole operation said that it's in coordination with the egyptian authorities these are egyptian trucks from the red crescent society and with coordination with the un let's hear what he had to tell us this operation is with coordination with the egyptians the un the idf it's it's complex with the operation but it's very efficient the colonel said that he hopes to increase the number of trucks that will cross to gaza right now 100 trucks in batches of 20 trucks each time after they've been inspected by these Israeli authorities but there is one hour drive between nitzana on the egyptian side and rafa the terminal to gaza he ensures that also this is taken care of the convoys that are going out from nitzana to rafa is being monitored every second every matter by the idf and these convoys are also coordinated with the egyptian's army it would have been simpler to have israeli trucks do a back to back at the kerem shalom crossing between israel and the gaza strip or at the eras crossing between israel and the gaza strip yet both terminals were destroyed during the war when hamas waged its massacres on october 7 on israeli territory and thus nitzana is the only solution this is pierre clochandler i-24 news nitzana border crossing israel thank you pierre the war in the middle east was very much present in the glp debate last night aired on nbc news if you are here on a student visa as a foreign national you're making common cause with hamas i'm canceling your visa and i'm sending you home no questions asked i would be telling bb finish the job once and for all with these butchers hamas they're terrorists they're massacring innocent people they would wipe every jew off the globe if they could we need to be very clear eyed to know there would be no hamas without iran there would be no hezbollah without iran there would not be the houthis without iran and there wouldn't be the iranian militias in syria and iraq that are trying to hear hit our military men and women if it hadn't been for iran and who is funding iran right now china is buying oil from iran russia is getting drones and missiles from iran and there is an unholy alliance we need to be clear eyed the last thing we need to do is to tell israel what to do the only thing we should be doing is supporting them and eliminating hamas the founding vision of israel was based on the idea that they don't want to depend on anybody else's sympathy or direction in defending themselves so what i would tell bb is that israel has the right and the responsibility to defend itself i would tell him to smoke those terrorists on his southern border and then i'll tell him as president of the united states i'll be smoking the terrorists on our southern border let's go to mike wagon i'm i24 news senior u.s. correspondent mike looks like a competition or one i don't know if there's any true winner because if you look at the polls the guy that's still winning wasn't at the debate last night and that's donald trump but amongst those that were actually there i nicky hailey has been gaining ground not just on foreign policy but within republican circles now for what the last three debate cycles here so she continues to remain a strong contender essentially for runner-up i don't think ron desantis lost any ground there but it was certainly interesting to hear republican candidates going all out for israel last night when nicky hailey former um uh u.n. ambassador was asked what what should israel do with hamas she said finish them finish them almost like something out of a movie and tim scott who i don't think we had a clip of him playing there the south carolina senator very very strong in denouncing iran essentially saying listen it's time to stop playing around with the proxies there you can attack the proxies all you want it's not going to do much good in the end if you don't go for the head of the snake of course referring to iran and of course ron desantis pro-israel bonafide really can't be um question ron and he was very adamant last night yeah mike i have to second hearing about it essentially thank you very much we'll have to listen to idf spokesman now maybe commenting about the release of two more hostages one of them is the security quarter a very central area in the northern part of the gaza strip that contains sites of hamas including the headquarters of intelligence aerial and ammunition areas we have cleared that area we've taken down terrorists we're taking down over 50 terrorists we found many um weapons intelligence uh tools that we will learn from and this is how we will continue to clear the area we also took down a number of commanders among them senior commanders of the anti-tank missile system we took down and that is a severe blow to the hamas movement i wish to update that a few hours ago i accompanied the head of the idf and the head of the shin bet we entered deep into gaza strip in armored vehicles the same vehicles our fighters go on we went deep into the gaza strip there is a risk in it but by the fact that the senior commanders of the idf go there meet the forces understand the battle understand the challenges this is a significant statement they go to the soldiers on the field they understand the challenge one of the greatest challenges in the middle east and maybe in the entire world to fight in a densely populated area like gaza and also with an underground activity we sat together with the head of the brigade and the other commanders the fighters on the field we understood the challenges we understood what they're missing what they need and we understood that they're getting fantastic intelligence and we understood what we need to give them we understood that the air force strikes are very significant that assist the forces we will deepen those strikes in order to aid our forces and maintain their security because we want to maintain the security of our forces and kill terrorists we made sure that they have enough rest that they fight and their rest we check their defense how will they fight while defending themselves one of the main things that they mentioned is the technology and logistic part of the idf that has been operating to fix the tools being used being fixed very quickly on the ground we are at 90 percent capability with our forces with our armed vehicles the rival of the head of the idf and the head of the shin bet on the field understanding how to take down the senior leadership this is a significant statement we received a strong backwind from the forces who told the chief of staff we're determined to kill the terrorists we get everything we need and we're ready for a long battle for a long war we're ready to take down hamas we'll start in the north part of the strip and continue to finish the goal that this is the message from the commanders at the front fighting is ongoing there is no ceasefire we repeat this there is no ceasefire we continue to fight and when we went back we passed through the humanitarian corridor we saw that it works we saw today over 50 000 gaza civilians from the northern part of the gaza strip going down southwards they understand that we fight significantly in the city of gaza and its surrounding and that hamas has lost control and it's safer for them in the south that's where the humanitarian aid goes to that's where food water and medicine led by egypt and the us this is where it all goes to we continue the ground operation even deeper into gaza we will reach more and more strongholds of hamas while we were touring the field others were sitting in bunkers disconnected connected from reality and from their people disconnected from the fighting allowing terrorists to fight while they're sitting and eating in the bunkers and the people of gaza understand this very well and they express this as well in the north we struck two terror squads that were planning to fire towards israel and a squad that's fired in towards an israeli vehicle in the afternoon a drone has struck the city of eilat we're still investigating this where did the drone come from why was there no alert we'll learn all the details and we'll update the public our deterrence a few minutes ago we had an alert because uh an arrow missile has intercepted a target our ground to ground missile was intercepted our defense from the air and from the ground is a good defense we will investigate why whatever happened in eilat has happened and we will update the public in the west bank over the night a shooting attack took place our forces are scanning the area searching for the terrorists we continue the operational activity day and night arresting hundreds of hamas terrorists and thwarting attacks this is how we also operated in the jinnin refugee camp 900 brigade is still operating there thwarting terror inside the jinnin refugee camp in the home front we continue to update the guidelines the aerial defense system is already took down thousands of threats over the skies of israel even if there is a decrease in the number of rockets do still stay vigilant listen to the guidelines take those 10 minutes in the safe room before you go back to your normal routine this saves life this evening a documentation has been showing a sign of life from khanan yagil dear khanan yagil from the gaza strip we embrace them and their families and we tell them and to all the families of the hostages if they hear us we have not missed the chance and we will not miss any chance to return hostages the IDF operates together with the other security groups around the clock with a superior effort to everything that we can do we will do in order to bring back the hostages so far we have notified 239 families of hostages we do everything we can to update the families with every information that we have right now and in the future we'll update the families and then the public we've given notices to families of 354 fallen soldiers together with fallen policemen and emergency teams including the fire and rescue systems will continue to embrace them and their families questions that was the spokesman of IDF he mentioned the older lady and the young kid that were according to islamic jihad in gaza will be released no more than that no word on any deal of any kind but uh danny and um we just spoke about the the hutis and and and yemen and he just said that this another missile was actually intercepted by israel so they're keep shooting there yes you know it's when they talked about this multi-front attack they really meant it and basically israel is now dealing with five different fronts you know we have the gaza of course we have the north with the hezbollah we have the golan heights with the militias the iranian militias in syria and we have of course still the west bank in janin today i guess like nine terrorists were killed of us and the fifth one is the hoodies that we mentioned now and that's for later fadi right yeah i i see some reports from arab sources and say that it was more than one inside and apparently the aero system was activated um yeah but as the ambassador said uh it's supposed it was supposed to be a much bigger party than what is so far i mean originally i think they have miscalculated they really wanted to have everyone joining at one time and the synchronization just did not work for them uh i have a feeling that hamas jumped the gun the same way that uh salah jumped a gun in 2006 um lucky us i guess in a way and because if it really if that concert would have happened the way they planned it it would have been a different picture let me know going out to uh televiv i24 news uh nicole uh tzadek is joining us live from there with the families nicole yes jacob we're hearing from healthcare professionals as they're standing here in televiv right across from the offices of the international red cross listen to what they're chanting act now act now this has been their call for the past month now they're saying how can the red cross stand by and do nothing they want the red cross to not only get a list of names of the 240 hostages that are still captive in gaza get a list of the names and demand that they go in and can provide medical attention to many of the children babies elderly all of them that desperately need medical attention and so that the rod cross can even see as to what physical state they are in and so you're seeing all of these different healthcare professionals come out though they're wearing their scrubs they're wearing their white coats they're coming together saying as medical professionals ourselves how can an organization like the red cross stand by and in their words do nothing for these hostages that remain that remain captive in gaza so they're coming out together they're writing letters to the international red cross urging them to do everything that they're doing that they can to gain access to these hostages but more than a month in the main feeling right now is anger and disappointment in the international red cross for for all of the little that they've been able to do so far jacob right nicole said it uh in tel Aviv uh right now how many people do you see there nicole if you're still with me i just want to get a sense of what's the dimension of uh the happening there i'll step out just so you can take a look at just the crowd in general we're talking hundreds of different healthcare professionals and medical professionals we're seeing nurses we're seeing doctors uh medics from again to be the dome the lifesavers forum all of these different israeli organizations israeli medics healthcare professionals all coming out here along with family members of the hostages many of them you could hear a speaker up on stage right now as well they're they're they're talking from their medical perspective about calling to action from the international red cross to act now that's what you can hear once again these statements of act now and i want to note that many of the speakers who have been on stage they're doctors themselves of course but also many of them are of course impacted by the horrible tragedy of october 7th one of the doctors who are up there who operates daily here in tel aviv she lost 10 family members either murdered or kidnapped by hamas terrorists on october 7th so the people that are here they're not only healthcare professionals themselves but they also have many hostages and have lost many family members themselves so there is a deep personal connection as well here right nicole thank you very much live at tel aviv so far no word whatsoever from the red cross or anywhere else uh about the hostages in gaza