 We played together a long time later, I think people seen watching the video there, you had an array of haircuts during your time, which was your favourite? I think the one where you had the big wingbacks, the big floppy pieces hanging down, that was me, not on the head is it not, that was me rebelling against everything. I remember you rebelling, not only against, you rebelled against the world at the time I think. Now all serious now, you've been out a while, how's the injury going? It's going well at the moment now and back outside just doing the tail ends of me fitness stuff and I've probably got a tough week this week coming up with a tough day today and hopefully I'll come through that and drop back into training in the next week, 10 days. You've had a few hairstyles over the years but I don't think you could carry a perm off quite as well as you did. Who'd a perm? I had a demiweave, it wasn't a perm. I think they've died out now haven't they? Ozzy, did you find one of them? I had a mini afro at one point but I didn't really pull it off, I've got to be honest. It became a bit floppy at the back. You must have some special goodness and part memory Sharpie. Is bi-immunic the one? Yeah I think so. I just said there's been an awful lot of memories there, good memories as well, winning the league against QPR. I think everybody remembers the bi-immunic game, I think that was the best atmosphere it's been there for audiences since I've been at Everton Football Club, I think Fiorentina in the European competition recently has been there. But the bi-immunic game was incredible. I think the crowd was estimated at 52,000, there must have been 60,000 there and 59,500 wherever, the noise, incredible. Down one nil a half time, could have heard a pin drop but that was when Howard and he's famous saying, keep it simple, do what you're doing and the glad the street will suck one in and that's what happened. On to win the game, quite comfortable at the end but the glad the street that night were incredible, incredible. Back to you later. Talking similar, what was your favourite goodness and part memory? You've stitched me right up there haven't you gone off the back of Sharpie? I kind of knew I was doing it as well. Funnily enough one of the first things that come to mind probably cos your ear was like say the European nights were always pretty amazing and I just recalled that goal like you scored. I don't know if they've shown that one, not shown that one. Just nods and diamonds to Lee, the one against Larissa? Yeah, that was like something that just popped into my mind and it was a good bit of play that I was involved in myself, Stephen and then finished off. But the European nights were always amazing, special games to play in and so hopefully there'll be more of them in the near future. We've seen that biomeunic game a few times at various dinners that we've been to Sharpie. If the biomeunic game was played tomorrow it would end up something like four aside wouldn't it? Why? Are you with animals? Yes, well, listen in those days and it wasn't just us, we gave as good as we got. You know they had some fabulous players in there, Lothar Matias played, Sorn Lerby, Big Ogan tall with the centre back. They could look after themselves as well. So if it was a case at first and foremost you had to win the battle, we won that and then we were fortunate enough we scored the goals at the right time. But people talk about the game being fast now and it is, it's incredibly fast, sorry. But if you see that game, if you get a chance to watch it again, it was unbelievable, really unbelievable. We went around kicking people all day long, but it was a fantastic game to play in. It was a really, really most enjoyable game to play in. I also played in the Liverpool 4-4 draw at Goodison, which was fabulous, but the biomeunic one just tops it. It was extraordinary. Is that one of those games where the noise is so intense you can scarcely hear your teammates shouting but there must be a part of you that's saying we can't lose this, we don't lose this in front of these people? Well we went 1-0 down Dan and as I said I think everybody was shocked by it. I think Howard was brilliant, Howard Kendall was fabulous and I said he could have lost it at half time but he didn't. He just said listen boys I can't fault you for anything you're doing, just continue to play the way you are. You're kicking towards the Gladys Street, it will be good for the whole turn, the game will turn. He scored two goals off, long throw-ins, Gary Stevens and one for me, one for Andy Gray, then Trevor topped it off. But listen once we get back in level terms there's always going to be one winner. There's numerous stories come out of it, I don't know if you've heard Reedy and he's after dinner, he tells a fabulous story. But it was a memorable night, one that everybody will remember. And the final was even better? The final was better Ozzy, the final was easier and that was it without being blasé but I think the semi-final was the final itself. Bayern Munich were the best team, Rapid Vienna had played Celtic in the other semi-final, we went to see them and we thought we'd beat the two of them. So we knew if we beat Bayern Munich we'd win the cup and that's what happened. Bainser you've taken many last gasp penalties a good of some part down at the Gladys Street end. Can you see the punters, might sound like a daff question, are they in your eye line or are you just focussed on the ball, the goal and the keeper? Try to keep me focussed as much on what I've decided I'm going to do. Every now and again you will make eye contact with someone or you'll hear a shout. I think the most recent one was Wofford and that was late on and I think it was an important game at the time we needed to win. What popped into my mind at the time was my kids watching and I stood over the ball and I was thinking are they going to get leaded in school if I missed this. I've never really allowed myself to come out of my mind like that and what I'm focused on. So I had to quickly put it to the back of my mind and get on with the job but generally I'm quite focused. Can you hear the fans during the game? There's a lot of people sometimes, especially if things aren't going well and there's a few moans and groans and I often don't hear that or if I do I don't pay any attention to it or too much attention. It's easier than me, I had every single one. I do tend to hear more individual shouts as opposed to being aware of the global atmosphere at times. I think you're aware of it and more probably if it's positive you go with it and if it's negative you try to just block it out. It's more the individual shouts and there's a few witty people in there who can be quite cut one as well. I think you've done now 10 years at the club already this season. It's a fantastic achievement. Do you see yourself doing many more? I don't know. What's the aim? I sort of haven't set any targets or you just have to see how long your legs are still carried and also those decisions are not yours to make. The hope is you can carry on forever but everyone knows it's not possible and your body will naturally decline. I think whoever is in charge of the club to manage any other people will eventually make that call. I think the onus is on the individual so myself to live my life right, be as fit as I possibly can. So I can look myself in the mirror when that time comes when they say you're not for us anymore that I've given everything I've got. Right now, I'm not good after today. Sharper, you and I have done many commentaries at Gwerson Park and you do tend to hear the odd murmur of discontent, shall we say, from the supporters? Let's roll here tonight and everybody knows what wonderful place it is to play, especially when you're doing well. But I'd have to say that it's one of the most difficult places to play when things aren't going well and you can hear the crowd and the stick you're getting. The lads are talking about it before but I remember playing against Coventry in a league cup tie and Howard was struggling and there was six, seven thousand at Gwerson and not only could you hear the boos and the disapproval but you could actually spot the guy who was doing it to you in the test and you knew it was coming from him and you knew it was coming from him and let me tell you. So whilst it's brilliant to play at Gwerson when it's like that and times are tough it's really really difficult. A quick question to both of you, in terms of talking at Gwerson, what would you say was your stand out or your favourite goal each that you scored at Gwerson Park? Go on, Bainzy. Again, one that sticks out for me was Tottenham. I had just broken into the side, not long broken into the side, I think around about 82, 83 and I hit a volley at the park end. Ray Clements was in goal for Tottenham. Ardilus, Hodo, they had a really good side at the time. I think we drew the game 1-1 but I hit a volley Aussie from outside the box at the park end so that would have to be the one at Gwerson. Past Ray Clements as well wasn't it? Yeah, it was past Clements in goal but again I was just breaking into the side at the time so it was important for me to score goals and I managed to get one in that day, it was spectacular. One goal of the season, I went to the TV studios expecting a beautiful little bit of crystal or silver salver, a fucking tea towel. A fucking tea towel, we kick off on it. Needs us to see it, I haven't got it any more. Follow that, what's your best goal? At Gwerson, the one that springs to mind at the moment, I don't know if it was West Bram or Newcastle, I think a bit of a combination with Stephen, I think as normal and then broke into the box and finished it. All my free kicks have been away from home and all strikes. What about one of your free kicks? He said they were all away from home. I was thinking about the Newcastle one, it would still be travelling if there hadn't been a net there. Yeah and I was reluctant to hit that really, just no one else wanted to get on it at the time and I thought it was more of a crossing position for the right footer but I just couldn't sell it to anyone. So I think just being a bit frustrated, I ended up thinking right well I'm just going to whack it then. And that was literally all it was and for that reason it wasn't always my favourite because it was literally just an old school, I'm just going to put my foot through it. Every now and again you catch one like that and it just flew. My favourites were the two you scored down at West Ham away, especially the one that went off the right post. I mean the one that went off the other post, you picked your post either goal but the one that went off, the one you killed inwards I thought was just unreal. I'd prefer those because there was thought behind it and a little bit more skill. I remember Randy so Moisey's assistant manager used to tell me sometimes about the goalkeepers and I think we might have played Bolton and before the game he told me Yasker Lyonon cheats and takes a step. Now Yasker Lyonon had gone to West Ham so I remembered that and then the first one is why I went goalkeeper's side and he did take that cheating step and then through doing the first one it meant he had to stay honest for the second one he couldn't afford for that to happen again and probably if it ended a bit in the post but even if it was a yard or two inside he probably wouldn't have got to it just because he had to wait that second longer. Did you ask Snotty's questions what were his best goals? We could have said to Snotty's talk us through all your goals. We've had a couple of young players on here tonight who I thought did really, really well. You've completed the journey sharpie from a very young man in the first team all the way through to being a senior player. Who were the guys who helped you when you first came into the team because every young player needs a little bit of guidance? When I first came down I was in the dressing room at Belfield and looking across at Bob Blackshire, the Aesha Hartford, George Wood, John Goodman, Peter Easto who played up. So they were all a massive help for me especially being away from home it was difficult for me but you know Gary Stanley, Gary Megson had been bought at the same time. So it was tough for me but listen we all know that you need a little bit of luck along the way as well. You need hard work and desire which the lads have shown but you need a little bit of luck as well. I was fortunate enough I got that luck and enjoyed my time here but Ozzie and Benzie will have their own memories of growing up and coming through the system as well. For me I was 19 when I moved down so maybe a little bit easier in terms of age but I think those players I mentioned were really instrumental and also the coach Colin Harvie who I wouldn't have achieved what I achieved if it wasn't for Colin. He was a fantastic coach I think you worked under him Ozzie so Colin deserves a lot of credit as well.