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Hey, man I ain't gonna lie. I jumped up on me to some gyms, man You know what I'm saying? God been guiding me though. I already know what it is, man Fave ain't fair and all that other good stuff, man. Check it man. Hey, man Minister Seymour is in the building. Check on the moon. I'm here man. It's so nice to have you on the platform, man I've been looking forward to doing an interview with you. I mean, I love what you got on to say man I'm gonna step my game up. I see these boy layering out here in Chicago every time I come they layering They got the nice clothes that the coast is hanging to the floor. Hey, you got to help me out here, baby No, but Texas don't have that type of weather When I come up here with T-boy these boys ain't playing fair up here, man Say so let's talk about it. Let's get into it. So were you born and raised here in Chicago? Yes I have I was raised here. What part all over all over. Where were you born? I was born All in it's called Jute Town in the street where everybody hang that we were little kids snatching grab little boys We're bad little boys, you know So Were you raised with your mom and your dad? Yes, I did in the same household the same household until I got like 10 Years old my mama passed when I was a little boy. That's when I got wow Wow But it's normally the other way because normally daddy is the one normally have the reins on the son and the mama can't stop You from going super wild, but it's the other way around for you You know my my daddy he worked and he did the best he could you know I was like the preacher kids the preacher kids was bad the kids in the neighborhood by my grandmama She had a pod, you know and raising us, but my mother passed and that was it. You know, we just she was your heart The best thing that I ever knew So if I say some of the young brothers got a mother father they give them respect and you remember a lot I remember my mama. She was a safe woman Christian woman prayed a lot. She was in church My daddy was a preacher and you know as we became the baddest kids. We all had to preach and Saying in the choir and everything, you know, so How many siblings do you have? It's bad. It's bad. Maybe six and six out of different Relationships, you know, are you the youngest or oldest one of them? I'm 65 now. So okay I'm not really young but out of good family, you know, I I was the worstest child my daddy had bad boy in Chicago, you know up and down this Streets of robbing the telephones and hey man down to knuckles was was just like Robbing the piggy bank hmm, but at ten years old you said that's when it turned because your mom had passed away But what attracted you to the streets? What and and what did you see? Well as I got older I become a As she passed I went to school. I got education. My dad made sure I went to school. I went to school but I I seen Guys Live the fast life. I just always wanted to be a superstar and I became a superstar But what made me wanted to stay in the streets, man? I liked it a pretty cars You know with the white walls on in the kitchen stuff like that, you know, hey, man So that would change my life. I didn't want to be the doctor of the lawyer, man But I know we used to be in church all the time preaching preaching and singing for the Lord And I just got tired, you know, and I just man Seen them pretty cars and man, I just started living the street life You know, I think God I never got drunk or got high off of drugs But I was just riding. I think I was like 17 years old or 18 years old when I met my friend Bishop Don man, that's when you met him. I met him. How did you meet him? man, I was uh, I was young and I had a I had a pretty cat-lack pretty pretty pretty powder blue cat-lack Wow, and I hear Battle 72 73 I met Bishop back then and he was riding in a Rolls-Royce And he be caused me now the rose was yeah, yeah, yeah, all this. Yeah It was too brand new I got like 30 some roles watching that Wow, that was the best thing in my life as coming up in the game He was a sharp dude man tall slim had a big sombrano hat on green and gold Man, I seen this cat. So we became best friends. So we ride down the street of my cat-lack He ratted a road or he'll be blowing at me. He told me to pull over. I Think that was like in 74 73 or something. He did the group the big player ball. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I remember that We was doing them on me. I remember them happening. You know what I mean? It was doing them on and on. So that's well Me and him became best of friends. I got in the car roll with him. I said, man, what is this Batman? Kaisa, no So it was a job. That was my first time got in the Rolls-Royce I think he had a silver shot of 62 or 63 man He had naked women's all painted on the man He was one of the custom work all custom work and one of the baddest cats. I done been around a lot of players in the town We come friends as 48 years. So that's we did a party and We write iced tea to come in. Okay, you know I did that was a that wasn't a movie. This is just a party. There was the party That did you know him at a time when you invited him or you just invited it? We're at the time, you know Right with Bishop man this man I done been to the White House with him Man, I mean this man have been everywhere. So he was like a hero I was shot because I had my mother's brothers with some cold players and Max back then Okay, and I didn't want to be what a lot of brothers wants to be I always want to be a superstar but see When we bumped in here with iced tea It was cool. He was rapping and the gang bangers Bishop told him say man if you want to join the famous players come on. So he stepped up. He came around for about 10 years hanging with us and kicking it man, but At the time man, he was bad iced. He was cold whatever he did. He was shot Yeah, so he did I forgot the name of the video it did he was a He was sharp. I think had a white suit on with two girls on the side. Yeah. Yeah, yeah The players yeah, he had a couple of a couple of bad bad jam man, too cold until He bumped Cocoa, okay, and Cocoa shit his player game And he become the guy be a family man. He married that's right. That's the best thing he ever could Receiving his life was Cocoa. How was it when you guys? You know when this picture took place that we talked about well We He called Bishop and say man, I want y'all guys to marry me see because Bishop was the chairman of the board of famous player Organization and see I stood on the top of the of the world of church. Everybody holiday church. Yeah I'm the rich in a little church been had a patent for 25 years Wow, so Bishop and Snoop Dogg took it to another level, but when iced tea stepped up Bishop said man, you sure you want to marry this girl? He said yeah, man. I'm in love He said I can't a pimping player fall in love iced tea. He said man I don't know man, but I'm in love so Bishop took his players card from and told him get on out of here Yeah, it took it bro took his player card from so pimps and players do not fall in love. Well If you run across the right chick, you know anything can bust the cap Right. Yeah, I've heard a lot of pimps say that they loved their host Well see iced tea and Bishop them they was they was pimps I was always been a superstar and candy man them boy. They was packed up him You know, I feel you know that they can take it to another level But man when you meet the baddest chick and see Some guys got about 12 13 girls, right? And so they manage that just for the money like Bishop He didn't have 20 20. I'm 15 or 20 of them The man don't know how to do nothing. He don't know how to change a tie on the car He really just learned how to put gas in the car. No. Yeah one time. Who's at the club? And a player ball we come out because he won the crown. I have to give him this credit He won the crown she took the crown man. We wanted with New York. We want the floor there where we go He took the crown. Mm-hmm. So we came out one day they to cut all this ties So I'm looking I'm gonna try to get him submit some help man. So at the time We had a number of people's back then yeah, yeah, yeah from seven man What you have when you call me and sell him he got to a pay phone to call me He said man, I'm driving. That's how you drive. He drove the whole car to the west side on flats I said man, this you could have tried to fix that. He said what is that? He don't know how to fix a flat He ain't even trying to hear it. He ain't got trying to hear it man Man, so you like like so how was it like what did you go out to go to, California? Where did you got married iced tea at? I think it was in California Cali California, New York County. What was that? Man, well, I was like his best man standing there. He was crying iced tea crying Man, man, bitch. I'm hoping each other and he crying. I said look at this big pimp He said that's why I took his players card. He's not ready. He fell in love I said man, he fell in love man looking sharp with Coco Coco finds like pretty Yes, he can be so white. She said man. It is what it is man. He said I got tired running with y'all Then I got in trouble all the time Something else I wanted to ask you about as well like you told Snoop Dogg to go home You say going home Snoop Dogg was against that. He was running with us He wanted to pimp. I said Snoop Dogg check this out. Let me pull you to the side, man Let me pull you to the side man Snoop Dogg you get his chair so we can pull him you not No pimp man, you were gangsta Snoop Dogg. Yeah, you were gangsta But yeah, man, I want to talk about Snoop man like Snoop Dogg is Man, he did he different man He everybody knows that he can go from one thing to the next and still look grand deal See one thing about Snoop Dogg. I told him I told him good Jamie Jamie magazine They put it in the magazine one day Snoop man He come there with a cape on at the player ball, which he bumped a few Bishop girls, you know and took him home Man, I said hey, man. We just accepted as the game. Wow, but you know, I told him I said Snoop man Man, you're not no gangster Jack and you're not no pimp, man Why he said why not man, he said who said I won I said man, I've been in this game a long time man Why would you wait? Till you get rich and leave your wife, man Why would you leave her? She got y'all got a lot of money together But you got a beautiful wife man and beautiful family man go back home to your wife, man This game is not for everybody. This game is not for you, man. This shit was a Good thing that came into his life bad Talking to him telling them and saving them was a spiritual advisor when him and uh, she looked like them didn't see the I remember that, you know, I remember I had a some some some girls were singing out of Chicago they was a called fulski and They I have a guy went to school with me his name was a Well Raino and let's show that they were some good friends of mine. They took them girls to California and they were singing so We got there with two pot this one he was living yeah, yeah, yeah two pot he listened to me I used to encourage him and tell him a man. Don't be so Wow, man, cuz when he was when they killed him We was there at the MGM the day Mike Tyson. We had a fight that day. Yes, he was we was there me and Bishop and Cuz I introduced Snoop Dogg to Bishop and Bishop the Snoop Dogg that's where you made it bad. Yeah, I gave a Snoop Dogg Bishop book and so we all became good friends cuz the friend of mine Her name was Stacy small as she introduced Me to Snoop Dogg and I introduced Bishop to Snoop Dogg because they was working with death row back then Man, and they was singing on the death row records and with little boy in Chicago called Danny boy. And so at the time I Got a chance of no snoop. We was kicking it. He put me in a lot of videos That's the best thing ever second thing happened to me because Snoop Dogg made a way to all around riding Looking good now, you know, he's support me money wise too. And I thank God for him today cuz a lot of rappers ain't Did nothing for me and Bishop number one the hip-hop all this bling bling bling it came from us Yeah, but I gotta go back to Snoop when he I remember when he did that that that video and the family's Dramatic she's like everywhere. I guess oh and never remember that video in California when he did that Okay, it was there. What did y'all think about that because that was pretty much him really showing Respect, but then some people could look at it is should he be using this because this hip-hop thing is well And you know what I mean? We're at the time To get where he had to get today. Yes, he used it and you know, Bishop was always standing there with him I'm in Chicago, but Bishop been standing there with him day one. And so If you hang around pimps or whoever you hang around players or whatever You're gonna you gonna pick up some ways Watch who you have around your house the babysitters are people come to your house around your grandbabies You check that's when we came up my grandmother said y'all go another room So Snoop just picked up some ways when we did the Pamp with 50 cent. I remember we made them brothers Man Bishop a cold man it I'm not trying to hold his hat and I ain't gonna hold nobody hat But Bishop was a cold brother when I met him. I still respect him. He gave me my respect, but when I was a 17 he was about 23 or 25 Few years older than me My like I said, my uncles gave me the game my mama brothers was sharp when I met Bishop So I dressed purple and white them my colors he green and gold was still Snoop dog wants to live that life And we crown them at the player ball. We crown him. We cry on ice tea They got to come through famous players through Bishop down magic one if they want to be stamp certified Because He the president I'm the vice president So I respect them was Snoop dog. I said man go home man go home to your lovely wife He went on we said man. Thank you. So he just did a birthday party two years ago. I Walk in Snoop dog jumped off the stage and ran For I can get in here in the door and told his wife he said baby this man here The cause we've been together Made me come home minister Seymour made me come home to you and she said shook my Thank you so much for making my husband come home forever And Snoop Dogg party After you had did that and said that to him mm-hmm now we had Naomi Campbell We had pup daddy at the party Show you the respect that Snoop Dogg has for his wife today Is that Shantae walked in there and called his name one time Calvin? In front of Naomi Campbell, yes, sir in front of Diddy And looked at me I Took my hat off. I said yes, ma'am When he come down to the wife That's golden with the players Man, grab a note and she she didn't want she didn't want her husband hanging around that and I understand Because my wife be saying the same thing. I say I know him always been a superstar. So when you hear famous players I originated that too. She's me and my wife got the argument that she said I Have your last name I'm pristine beard. I said yes, you are but this she said y'all ain't you y'all ain't famous Players, so I got that from her. Y'all think y'all so famous player. So I got it for my wife and I Kicked it with the players, but when I told that brother Snoop Man ain't nothing better going home when I go home every day with them grandbabies in them great-grandchildren I have a job to do. Mm-hmm. I learned to be a grandfather a great grandfather. Hey, man When you become a great grandfather Hey, man, that that puts you on a Another level You not no father number to a grandfather than a great-grandfather because grandbabies coming here coming here and coming there Hey, man, that made me grow up a little bit. I want to ask that's a legacy. You don't have to pass down That's right. I want to go back though. I want to go back to when you said you was in Las Vegas the night Tupac was killed mm-hmm at the Tyson fight Keefe D and all these guys going to jail all these years later It's a surprising thing for me when I think about it like like man I thought that case was closed. They never it was always gloomy. Just give me the spill on how was the atmosphere that night? After that it happened when you know what before it happened We was there, you know and when the fight broke out from everything when the fight broke out We was there. I'll let me tell you something too. I want to cut you up, but uh Who else was there was a floor Mayweather? He was there floor Mayweather. He said I'm gonna be the first Professional fight and I remember Bishop said get out of there little punk And and in the front of our made recipes keen bean said come on man Let's take a picture with floor Mayweather. So when he came to Chicago Years later. I say hey, man I'm the one you beg to take a picture with and you don't want to take a picture with me now So I remember when he first he didn't want to take a picture with you Why he came to Chicago because sometimes he was bigger that time. That's right So he got the big he he got the big ear. So that's why I'm telling you that night We was out there at the key scene of what I remember they kicked over to the Casino tables They it was they were it was riding and they would they told they told the place up Y'all was in the fifth center y'all seen all this action going on is going on real time real time all this was going on They told a casino up man, and uh everybody was running screaming and hollering and stuff like that. So When we heard about it everybody was running in I said hey Two part got killed how long after that? How long was it after that before you heard that? Yeah in the casino to hearing that well We was in the casino and when we heard we heard about it and everybody it was still in the casino Yeah, we was in the casino, but they was outside of someone you know that's what I'm saying So from time y'all never left the casino. No, we stayed we stayed in the casino, you know And from the time the fight broke out to you hearing them come back to say he just got shot was it like When when when everything jumped off we were still inside, you know, everybody was going look at peeking, you know Most brothers and so so we all knows yeah, he was like they knows you knows it too. So You know everybody was want to see what was going on, you know, and everybody wanted to make Mike Tyson. Yeah, you know and Because we was getting ready to go I'm listening to we was getting ready to go to the fight but All the news moves and brothers with Farrakhan they was there on the security for two part for Mike Tyson So we was all going in the tunnel and that's who we met a two-part He's he had a army suit on And we was going all down it in the tunnel and that's a man who was just wild dude That was two-part. He said man, let down one in let down one in Let the bitch you don't want in let them in We didn't know who it was, but he knew because Bishop Care that cut take cares colors every way you go. So Two-part said man, let them in let them in let them in because the brothers didn't want us to come in So two part why I said man, I shut this joint down right now. I shut it down So Mike Mike Tyson, he was getting ready to go on because we was all backstage with Mike Tyson Getting ready to go on because he wanted Bishop down magic one The move when he moved. That's what Mike Tyson wanted, you know So he said man, I'm going down one of going with me, you know, we was all together, you know, but That's how I went man. So man the last day of two-parts life. Y'all was right there We was right there with them. Wow, and he really wanted some Some players with them man a lot of brothers when they get around their wives, they don't know the pimps in the playoffs But soon with Mama Lee Man, I'm gonna tell you some some rappers now, but I ain't gonna bring their name up They burn they burn my friend for him up all day and all night come over to his house Man, open up the door. Bishop open up the door They did many many were him. Yeah, man. Can I be at the next player ball? It's a lot of them Come to the player ball Big Daddy King all them they come at every rapper, you know Have been to them player balls with us. So fifty-six them. They got to respect the game man the bling bling We brought it to the table, you know Bishop You see mr. T all that jewelry mr. T. Yeah, yeah for sure. It came from Bishop Really? You know, mr. T was a good brother, but he came out of the neighborhood one was working at Dean's as a time You know, he was Bishop by the guy that first really mr. T Yes, he was man a lot see a lot of people don't know the history out of 48 years I've seen a lot Wow y'all want to push up to the side y'all would never push up us to the side cuz we're gonna stay down and what I was telling you I thank God for Snoop Dogg again push me and help me one of the rappers and a lot of them know They owe us now, but I'm playing for one young brother when he get out young thug I've been working. Yeah. Yeah, you were doing it. He's getting ready to get out. I've been going to jail to see him I've been flying back and forth back and forth as a minister of him standing with him when he go on the court I've been there for young thug, but I know he's gonna get out cuz the judge said on the 16th if y'all don't bring that evidence He gonna be gone. How long? Okay. How did you end up building even having a relationship to even help him? Yeah, well, I have a beauty shop and my daughter shot a and Shea, you know, I got Reverend Toby got a barber shop and Vic run to the I have a luxury rental Rolls Royce's company. So my kids When people come to Chicago We have a rental Luxury rental or USA. Mm-hmm. We pick up all of the celebrities their age So my daughter she go pick them up in my daughter shot a she make wigs for the Girls and so this little out of them. So my daughters, they know a lot of people, you know in the young generation So when he came to the beauty shop, he knew me. I didn't know him He knew you didn't know who I was And so when you seen all this happen with the Rico charge and gun and all I'm going to jail You knew you had to be there for man. Let me tell you something. We know our Kelly Why would they give him a Rico charge? I can't even I Tell you again. He came around us coming to the playoffs ball. Yeah, they all want to be Bishop down magic one Not me. They want to be him Kelly we used to go visit him know what they do. He'll clap his hand his girls are going to back But our Kelly is not no film. It's not no player. He may be have some Mental problems or whatever. I don't know but what I'm saying He wanted to be like Bishop and why would they give him the Rico charges? Why would they get the other people charge? It's a new law. They want to bury young brothers now. Well the young brothers Man, I don't want the part is they have brain trucks come and throw money all off the roof brain trucks of money 2050s and hundreds man, you know what we came from Couldn't afford to throw a dollar away. I couldn't throw a nickel away And man the shifty young brothers down they came up with a Rico law Do you think our Kelly will ever come out? Yeah, I believe so. You know why they know they just The slow sometime we get hard headed sometime, you know Some of the women's they get hard headed to and they marriage and stuff like that Then you know and people don't understand that some of the best the beautiful women They like to sleep on the couch don't like to sleep in the bed with their husband They want to sleep in the bed with their blue jeans on so they get hard at it Oh, you know it it goes up and down And you got to be ready for the game because the game is cold, but it's fair So we know our Kelly and do that, but a Back again, like I said on our boy Snoop Dogg. I love the dog The dog is a gentleman and he can go on anybody's show and do it right That's any commercial you see you Snoop Dogg do He did it right. Well, let me let me ask you this man Cuz I gotta get I gotta get this out of you man I'm a Texas cat. Okay, and I'm real stumped down on Texas stuff And I've seen you you was over there at that a player I choose you video shoot stop playing y'all y'all boys man, and that was pimp see I'm up That's my number one of all time now so pimp see, you know In me like when it come to Texas music, that's where I'm at with mine So tell me about when you and Valentino and Pimping Ken and all y'all was sitting in there and done one I won't know about that Well, man game recognized game. So that's why they put it together now pimp see came to my Beauty shop in Chicago. I didn't know pimp Kenny sent him over there pimp. He gave me a bag then a bag of money Really and showed me so much love and say hey man. Thank you Whatever you Wants to shoot my video being that I want you there Man the man showed me so much love and the first Cody got on the white one. Yeah, the white come from church First I made that coat from my company. You made it go made that coat. That was a 25,000 Okay, you can't just say that how did he end up? Did you he called you and say I need to get a coat? Man, you don't mess me up now You might stop boy. I'm a fan. Oh, he came. Yeah, he came to my beauty shop real play of me I didn't know him my barber said someone here to meet you I said I don't ain't nobody looking for me because I don't even come in the barber shop I don't even come around So I was so happy that day. He pulled up in the Lincoln a black Lincoln a car Not no long limousine, but it was a black with tinnitus He got out and came in with a lot of juice by itself. So hey man. Oh, you're buying solo He said hey man. That's how you do. That's how you doing young man. Come on in he came in He said do you know who I am? I said no, I don't he said I'm film see I said what? He said man you my mentor and I did like folk Folk songs with them on on his CD What song? man, I Think one of them is Lickie Palace one of them What is What is that? It said I don't like one of them is I don't like titties titties think or something like that. He was tough wasn't he? Yeah, it was tough and I've been trying to get with them for I can get paid Let me know about this jacket though. How did he end up you did he pick it you are you picked it for him? Or how was it? No? He he wanted to be top in the game. So He said he a big boy. So I gave him big boy prices And brung him in at the player ball. He said man. We'll do ours and we'll shoot the video So when he's seen us come in and Kenny Kenny was sharp in this game, too He came on the bishop can I have he came in? PMC came in on the Kenny. So at the time He said man, I wanted to give my ma me a fur coat to the floor. I said what let's do it We made it up. I think we made one for his mother, too. May she mama Wes? Yeah, you know, I think his son We made we made a couple coats for his son. We made a few coats. He spent up a bankroll with us Wow Man, how did you how did you okay? How did you think it looked when y'all did the after seeing that that video? How did that look to you once you've seen how it all it was beautiful? You can pull it up now It the coat is beautiful. He had all the top-flight female skins man He spent a bankroll on that coat, you know, so man, we gave him love and we gave him support man And he just he could he couldn't stay out of Chicago. He you know, he Came all the time unexpected. So I came out the house to kick it with him He just felt so comfortable around me man show love and I Hate he gone on be with the Lord, but he did show some love Wow, man I want to get back to like like y'all early on I remember Pippa Ken told stories about seeing Magic done one when he was young and then having a you know, him being out of Milwaukee Just just how did that whole thing used from your side? How did that even come to be okay? Check this out? He came in Now Kenny under me now, okay, I'm the chin my church He's a great friend of mine Well, he always hey man want to come to the play ball because we did pimps up a hole down And I got a lot of brothers in there Okay, you know and I put that thing together and Kenny got a big check out of it I think I got a big check and Bishop got a big check But all the mother buzzers didn't get it done get it done So when he came in and man, we're gonna be down mom. We're gonna be done. Wish you don't I say hold up player Now I'm gonna walk y'all in but y'all got to pay me Wow, so him and one his friends today Him just divine big Lonnie. You probably know Yeah, I think they just he just he just got over 200 million dollars out of some rap or something But he doing good money. Yeah, that's my man. He was a One guy was real on Lonnie was real slick and sharp And bump your ball for you know it. He was real quiet big. Oh, they thought he was a jab But Lonnie a bumpy chicken two seconds and so Invited them to the playoff ball. That's how you brothers have a seat. I'm gonna get the bishop out So we was on 87 a mr. G's player. We have Bishop behind the the wall and They got a chance to meet Bishop signing his books buying his books and everything I think that was the best thing that ever happened to the Milwaukee boys Snooke and all of them. They was marshmallows when they come down our game His players is right now. No, they couldn't step up to us. We know we're gonna steal minister Well Kenny actually came two or three years man. I was like hold up. Yeah. Yeah He came in he came in but he still had to go through Bishop. That's right when he came in Kenny was good What he did he good Kenny was cold But some kind of way he fell off his horse and got out of sight see a lot of time people get out of Get out of sight and follow on their horses. They can do good or do bad But he he stayed back and just did his thing. What are you doing now? Put the guns down what I do put the guns down Stopped the killing with Kenny doing nothing. He's doing some some good He's doing a lot of great stuff for the community like I'm doing put the guns down stop the killing He's feeding a lot of people right now. He got a lot of rappels behind him. He's doing a great job Man, you know, why did you meet? Sorry? How did you meet Kenny Ivy? Kenny, um, was it that night? Well, you're gonna do some of the dumb one No, I met him So happen When we do play-offs balls, a lot of the newcomers they stay in the back See my I'm always got my eyes open looking for that dollar She bitch you're they gonna talk to none of him. He ain't gonna answer no phone I said, man, why you got a phone? You're never answer it. You can call them a hundred times He don't answer the phone so they can get through me. So I talked to them brother That's okay. I'm gonna fight y'all out y'all get a chance to talk to him So man, that's what they came in. They start coming in and snooker them They came in there with all that girls got the head down Which that's something we don't deal with in our game when guys mess with babies and stuff like that We we don't know nothing about all that because the game you got to respect the game in order to get respect but when they start the gas I mess with the keys and now we don't know nothing about that and Put a bad room on us because we don't live like that You got to be old enough to come around this organization. If not, we're not letting you in No, I get that man. I can't say it I think he said that him and down one had done and got mad at him because of the word it was a church or something It was something that he had he had see it. Yeah, this is what he said Like I said earlier My mother and father was preachers, right Church CH you are see it. It's church now Church is CH you use the age. I designed the name. I designed the word. I made the name up What's the meaning of the word? The meaning of it is When a group of people get together if you listen to the OJ He said family reunion When a group of people get together longest positive and we having a great time a good time No cussing no fighting That's what mean church. That's what it means when a group of people get together and we'll agree on the same thing That's called church having a party having church and my grandmother used to say y'all kids do and they get ready for church She ain't said church. She was old-fashioned Such that's why I got it from church. Okay, so what did Kenny say? Kenny said Man they plan with the with the church they plan with the Lord. No, we won because it was he wasn't church He would think it was church, but it's church and I explained to know y'all see a lot of people don't know what I Guess they know what church me and they didn't know what church me like I said I have a pattern and I know what it is because I created it. So it was something I created the majority of all the rappers shouted in a Versus or what singing but Bishop dawn magic one the Snoop Dogg elevated and took it to another level So that's what it is. Mm-hmm. Wow that and that's and that's something else because when you think about just the way Everybody use that word the way everybody use y'all terminologies How did that what how did you guys feel when everybody started in the hip-hop game with carrying those cups? And they was carrying them cups on every video Acting as if they was busy. See that's the point deputy glass lady. She created the glasses She been around us about 12 13 years, you know out of 48 years and me and Bishop and We've been doing major things in and all over the world But they still had to come through him the bling bling all the jury you see all the rappers talking about bling bling and jury and pretty cars It came from him man came from him. Yeah, cuz he exploded and never know. Hey, man For the hip-hop thing. He did the Dundella You know, he he kept it off Because man uses man this this man used to come down the street with his car Yeah, the big old rose was big old white walls on it him He made a way for a lot of brothers to ride slick a lot of guys want to be on the takers man We wanted I wanted to be a superstar, but he was one of the number one pimps You know, I don't seem a lot of pimps In the game for the last 48 years. I've known him. He's still He's still dressing every day Like I say, okay, no man hit, but I'm just telling you him. Yeah, he wears suit every day Even now he will suit every day and stay sharp and ride a slick green and gold every day I got his jury done and got his jury on bling bling hip-hop for all the hip-hop the rappers that came through us When uh, too short. Yeah. Yeah, we gave on it too. Too short came to Chicago at night like 83 82 Scarface them. Yeah, we remember all them boys, man We remember all them boys. Oh, okay Oh, we remember when they came here they came scratch they came here under us We didn't go to them they came to us man That's my friend. They came through us We didn't go New York or Florida. We didn't go to Houston, but man They came to us like pimp came to me bust around it speak for itself, man And y'all need to give us our stars. They try to shut us down from the movies and videos Bro, we still gonna do it man. I got so many roads was so many pretty houses now We got six yachts on the water not both yachts. So you come to Chicago look up Luxury rental USA Luxury rental USA You're gonna either get a rose was Lamborghini whatever car you want. Oh, yeah Call that number seven seven three three five five seven zero one two you're gonna get me and I'm gonna let them deal with my kid My son's I don't do no business with him. Why you stay booked all the time We stay booked cuz we's a praying family. Well, let me ask you I'm gonna go back to the You said something real about somebody getting peeled. I've talked to different guys Somebody getting peeled for they for they you know, he's a different word. Yeah, you use a different word Yeah, when they went to get bumped like I talked to Ken about that and I talked to Rob Lowe to pimp about that And and he was saying that it's a weighted, you know, etiquette. It's a what it's a etiquette It's a way that they pass off like, you know, if somebody appeared you you call and tell them I gotta and they pretty much they okay with it sometimes sometimes they not that was in the young This new generation thing. Let me tell you something These niggas will kill you say how did a woman back then I've seen Bishop man. I've seen Bishop Do the dumbest thing I ever seen this boy came in the door with three girls He won't he was thirsty to meet my buddy He was glad to meet us man He was glad to walk in the door the famous player coming in the door with a bishop say man What you working with it? He said He introduced Bishop to his girls. What do you do that for? Bishop say hey man, you want fellowship with us? He said yeah, he said we'll go to liquor store with them Let's fellowship. We did we drink Dom Perignon round and they smoke in him and through dog They smoke I don't smoke that way. They were smoked up in the joint man man Why would he leave his woman? I was just about to say Why would you need your woman a man? He came back They go when he came back. I feel sorry for my he was crying. I said, man, you a man You got accepted game Man the man came back with his shoes on back with his coat on back with Cryed he called the police when the police came He said I'm here are the young the young man say he left his woman these girls in the room. I Said it is these young ladies. He said yeah, and she told the police. She said sir What's you looking for me for she said I'm not with him no more with Don one He peeled him just that fair he peeled him But why he think he could call the police and what the police gonna do these are grown women that choose Where they gonna be so the game is so game is different You must you got to pay for the game anytime you're dealing with me I'm not gonna get you this game for you got to pay for all the young brother You want to play us cause you want to join the organization. It's not free. You can't go to Jews You can't go to Burger King. You can't go to war money get nothing free. You got to pay Man, I'll interview one Montmarnita Kenny Red But RIP Kenny. Oh, yeah, like like Martina Martina. Did you know Kenny Red Kenny Red was a great friend He was an enforcer. He was with the famous players organization. He was coming here on the Bishop dawn magic one That's what I'm saying these brothers be so Funny when they with their wives, but you got to check in with Bishop dawn one man. You got to check in with me That's why he told Kenny Ah, man, I just see you sure you sure you want to be with cocoa. He cry. Yeah Bishop said turn your players card in right now He turned his card in and got with cocoa He never looked back man. He's living good iced tea living good man I know when I talk to ice-cream. I pulled up in that last time a few years ago ice tea was in Chicago I pulled up in my great front. I'm he said man. That's sharp Jack Man, that's sharp. He said man. I Can't go back man. I Got to stay with cocoa man. That's my baby. Then he got a little pretty baby girl Yeah, and she made him cut his head man. Yeah It's all going so it's gone man. He turned this he took his gloves off and I ain't gonna box no more But look coming up on the Bishop see when they come in like they want they've been Bishop summer make sure you show me what You're here for you come in this church. You got to show me so I just he stepped up. He was a good member and and Showed himself approval What what he want to do and there it is now Kenny red the same way Kenny Red was a cold man out of Vegas He was a concrete jungle Kenny Red was our man and the young lady talk about I didn't know he married it So he found love with her too because he married him and everybody didn't know that was his hope But he mad up so it happens like that. Yes happen like that. That's why I'm just right Excuse me. Hey, man. I don't see But when he married them do you have to turn because he didn't turn in his players card when he got married So why did what he was still pimping though? So he didn't turn out to turn It's like bringing sand to the beach. Yeah, you know, he didn't bring sand to the beach. What would he did? He had it saying already he brought he brought Martina with him all the time. So that's how she be Got famous hanging around him. So I guess he loved Martina. That's why you matter So you can be in love being a pimp and married but still be a pimp and have your players card You said one more time you can be in love Have and be married and still be a pimp You can be whatever you want to be but out of Vegas in California now They got one guy named him on the great great great grandmaster out of out of California. He's not good him and Kenny rare was running together for you See when they said he brothers a lot of these brothers just came around this year and they think you're supposed to come in But if you're not crying right You got to be stepped right in order for to be in the church you cuz You can come in but you're gonna be over Pairs are quiet. You're gonna be about a deacon boy. You can probably wear it by the ursus You ain't gonna be in ain't nobody gonna know you one dude said man. I've been coming right y'all 20 years I ain't one none yet. He said man. Let me give you this hundred thousand. I said a hundred thousand He had it. I said come on. Let me bring you in the church I Today Believe me he Lord to be sure man. He loved this your man. This boy loved to my gonna say his name out But he Lord to be sure hey man. It just like this you and your wife y'all organization Yeah, it ain't mad this y'all built this. Hey, man. I'm gonna tip my head off to him This Bishop organization famous players in his organization. He's my friend, but Somebody they had he the head of that. I'm not did you ever meet you knew feel more feel more something feel more slim Yeah, I mess him. He just had a party last this Saturday. He did I didn't get a chance to make it because man like me I've been I never turned my players card in I'm gonna keep my players card all my life because I can't forget what this card Brung me. Yeah, this car brought me away a mighty long way and but number one I'm a respect the queen of my life. That's Christine. See the queen. I got to respect her I'm not gonna bring that mess home. I don't have company in my house. I'm a big house. How long you've been married? 45 years. Wow, I asked you how gangsters have done everything in the book with that But they bring you to the house around they found that's right I don't have company in my but my relative street people's off the street. You could you know, you're not welcome Right. How can you welcome when mama walking around cooking chicken? Right? You know, and I mean I put it like this here I Like my my wife to be sexy when I when I take my coat off and take my house shoes off And I go take a shower and she get out the shop my kids run it to the house And you know and she ain't got no underwear, but she got the gun on and she's safe. Come here, baby Picking up my grandbabies hold them and see cooking my food and bringing my plates in my to the table to the In the chair that I got a bigger climate. No, I'm a controlled Not sat down. Yeah, I want to see her pretty feisty keep a nail on my feet here Who don't want to see a beautiful woman? Walk around now. So why would you bring your friends and your I don't do it. I don't do it No, and I don't blame you. I don't do it Let me ask you this man Like when you think about like you guys being up here in Chicago and when we being in Texas We look up here and we see the the way the whole setup is we hear about the violence and but we see I hear about the Pimping and I hear about the players and I hear about the macking but about the gang wars as well How did you guys parallel that? How did you guys keep itself? Well, I'm gonna tell you this here number one. Just like I said look me up luxury rental USA Luxury See what I do sometime. I may I may put 10 rosewoods in front of my office Pretty in the summertime and every rapper in the town come they being lying I'm gonna take pictures and shoot video. I said listen who running every time you I'ma leave these cars out here All y'all can shoot y'all videos But the somebody scratch a cup y'all not gonna get no More chance to shoot those videos So they come on Lake Street to shoot their videos and everything and have a good time and they Put their guns down and the police. I saw officer don't mess with them. Leave him alone. They enjoying this stuff, sir Leave him alone The police are mad. Thank you for telling me that but that's my job for this not your job. Just to mess with the young man They ain't bothering nobody who got don't worry about who cause you try to slow down and so I got Organization put the guns down stop the killing and so that's why I thought he joined With me when he come home. He's gonna join a Chicago our organization for the teller brothers Put the guns down stop the killing. So that's where I come in that man. I just I grew up and Got my life together more I can think better because I have influence on them young brothers Tell them hey man respect your mother and father put the guns down and that that's why I sound like what Kenny doing Kenny doing a great job, you know, and just like you said Houston It's a lot going on but when you come to Chicago y'all got to check in with me That's real, but what makes you change your life because when you was young you was in the street You was doing all you said you was your daddy's most worst Yeah, what do you know? So what changed your life to say that? Okay, is it age you got older? Well, I'm gonna tell you this here I got a chance One day I was working on this guy's car. He was the leader of the vice-law. His name was Don Coteen off a cis role vice-law, okay And we got to fighting cuz he wanted to take his car free and I spanked him real good Hey, you didn't care who he was. He was a leader right spank them real good Then there was another one got out of hand called King bean he was a leader of the vice-law So I had to spank him too. He wanted to say he was gonna jump me I have to spank him then I had another fight with another guy called baby time. I had to spank him too Wow, so D was leaders here right and they wanted me to be their leaders. I said no, I'm a man of God I'm older now I'm working and trying to take by milk and food for my kids So they was trying to tell me I have to check in on my checking. I'm not with y'all so I Began to meet a lot of people's heard about this man. You whoops. I said I didn't meant to do it But they put their hands on me. Yeah, and I had to defend myself And so one of the guys walked up and kissed me in my mouth for man. That's all up, bro Hold up man. You are chief. That's I'm not y'all chief I'm not your chief Yeah, y'all people leave me alone and that's why game. I respect man But you know and and I was rival guns in my pocket bitch. It's a man. You can't ride with me with no gun He don't like guns. No Man I'm looking at every time I turn around he said man So he straightened it out with this guy don code in cuz he put his fellas on me But I was ready for him that I was wondering about that because normally when I think about somebody who's a leader of a gang And you whoop him whether he lost or not he's gonna come back and that's what I was like That's what Bishop don magic one come so I told Bishop man. I don't want to see them. God know what he did He took me come on get in the car with me We ride he pulled right in front of the guy while I beat the guy up It was a hundred game bangers out there. He said come here to code in the leader this minister Seymour man Y'all don't y'all don't fight leave that alone. He said I was truly you don't I leave it alone, man But he beat me up Just like Bishop say it's noob dog life. Wait. Yeah. Oh, yeah, what do I want to push it when him and shoot was in Bishop not steal snoop dog spiritual vizier, but you got to check in with the archer You got to check in man If you don't check in man, you ain't doing enough of winding up winding up winding up losing up You got to check in man Has he ever told you where he got all his wisdom from who don't want Well, he got it from the streets the knowledge just like I got my knowledge from the streets From him he learned stuff from me too so I respect them in his in his order He respect me where I stand that but I don't hold no matter nobody had I'm not holding nobody right right maybe you may hold They had I ain't holding they had I'm a respect them That's your position. He's older than you right? Yeah. Yeah much older about six seven years older me Okay, but you know if I was 20 he was 27 you Guys over here in Chicago the Bay area they go with that plan and pimping the hard to where did it where did it first take? It came from Chicago man. The Memphis boys and the Detroit ball. They was all right But man, I'm telling you when they did The Mac Mac junior. Yeah, he came to Chicago. I brought him here did the ball, but we have to let him know Hey, man, you was a dope dealer. You want no pimp You was a dope dealer So when he came in he was a hustler, but Mike Julian when he came in he checked in with the bishop They checked it man. They came here to Chicago The the whales brother when they did the like I said the Mac They wanted Bishop to do the movie Bishop said I can't do it. They bagged him to do it He said man, he was getting so much money now because he had some bad chicks, man Man, he had some bad girls man super bad He had one she was notorious man, and she's still living today and she loving the devil Who have the who had the baddest girls out of all of these pimps? You've ever seen and came across who's ever had the baddest girls me Haven't said nothing I just been sitting back and just analyzing and seeing things But see what the minister was saying about thug and how people come in. I was a gangster I come in is you know can two three pistols man And I wanted to be around the players and hustlers at a young age I met minister Seymour in high school Well, he was a senior and I was coming in being a freshman and I wanted to know the game I seem just kept with shop Cadillacs and riding shop and he said hey, hey player I see you. I know you be in the church, and I've been here you sing in the church and all that man But they will check this out. It was this guy that gave me my first mink coal It was this guy that gave me the first diamonds my first mink hat and things like that. So call this man showed the luck 1314 no no you stopped at seven seven See he gave me seven, but then he charged me for 13, okay, you think I'm saying I have to pay him Yeah, for real just as the minister what you see is what you get with this guy for real for real But they brought me in and I wanted to meet Bishop. He said hey hold on You know got them guns. So I'm still care my guns I went around Bishop, but we kicking way on he introduced me to Bishop He said man, take this out candy. You can't get them guns, man To put the guns down. We don't live like that. How hard was it for you to put those guns? Man, it was real hard because you know, we still this guy still was when a half a million quarter million dollar Well for jury Bishop wears jury every day and man, we have had cats come up. They want to man They want to rob us. They want to take everything, but they don't no I was this personal bodyguard for 33 years is to hmm real one and ain't nobody never took no way I don't know all these stories come from but they ain't mess with the minister and they know that church So when you a bodyguard you you you have a pistol if you're a bodyguard though Oh, yeah, well, you know, I learned to do things on another level. Oh, I mean, we have to know how to circumvent So how is it being you guys? You know all these years man seeing things because you guys talking y'all talking the 70s all the way up So how's the journey being like I'm talking to you candy man Like like did you ever think that you guys y'all seen a lot of people come and go y'all seen a lot of dels Yeah, y'all seen a lot of people blow up in Famism and all that other stuff like did you how do you think about this whole thing? Well, you know Man the archbishop dawn magic wand and minister Seymour made the game fashionable in the world church fashionable that We could have something to look up coming from the ghetto because coming from the mud man you you you you seen it You you you on public aid you understand me It's hard you ain't got money like that and you see in these cats do that this man is an advocate business owner Yeah, Mo always had a business man. He always had a time shop He always had something going for itself as a young man So that's what attracted me even though I was going to church man. I'm in the street You know what I mean? Man when they let out quite rehearsing man. I'm man. I'm trying to check it man I'm trying man. So I put that And I got with a crew man that was a wrecking crew, you know what I mean for real for real So I learned to do it, but when he came into my life, it was a total chain This man had children and everything, but he took time out You understand me to man put me in his tow truck with man show me a different way of life man You know what I mean real talk, bro. That's all for real man. Don't make me take my gucci's off Seriously see and when a young brother get that it's young brothers now. I'm in our industry They look at for love man. They want somebody man. Just to say hey, man You know what you can do it you can keep doing that man. You understand they ain't got nobody these players was the voice My father couldn't reach me He couldn't reach me and I'm the oldest of five. So I'm handling big brothers. This guy became my big brother Wow, Mr. Seymour. Did you you don't I think your your parent was your dad a pastor? Yeah, he's a preacher and your mom's like like how did they feel about you in these streets after so long? You was out there. You weren't coming back in my mama. She was she had passed on but my daddy said young man Let me tell you something. I Don't know where you get this life you living, but I didn't raise you like yeah, my daddy said I didn't raise you like that He said man, you you you You're a crook It's a crook. That's right And I was laughing he said but he was he said I didn't raise you like this He said I work from nine to five for you can't man. I use I you I don't do some crazy things I've done everything but dad and I thank God today Man, I was able to encourage Snoop Dogg encourage iced tea and Encouraged big daddy King. Yes, the old man Dolomite. They get ready to do the movie The daughter want me to be the Producer, how did you know Rudy Ray Moore? That was our friend. He's friend. He used to come to all our players boss I brought him a few times the players ball and I was I got a gospel CD came out really on there Dolomite on the iced tea on my new Gospel CD and the Bishop they on there I'm doing gospel because I it come from you you would never forget church So that's why I tell young brothers. That's your foundation if y'all don't want it come to church easy We're gonna roll you in in the casting and we can keep one foot out depending church and one out of the grade We can help you so I Still had that Spiritual in me and some things Like I said with Bishop man, this cat this cat was something else man. I was with him one day Man, he whooped it. You know the jockstrap with the horses He used to whoop his chicks man with no what that and he tell him get in the bathtub and sprinkle alcohol all over Man, he used to whooped them chicks with that jockstrap man. He's big they scan with bus open man This guy was man Bishop was something else You need to get this story this cat was something else man He was something else man. It's a and then they go to work They want to work, but it was him Man, all he wanted to see what's the money? Why would he do why would he do that to them? He wanted money. He didn't want the honey. He wanted all the money There are no man. The man was crazy man. They may have a hundred thousand all the day. He broke the mall. He go get 50 suits 200 pair of shoes 25 shirts 100 pair of socks Four five diamond rings made with big diamonds and come back the next day and do it again Man, this man was a bad this man was cold in his games. He can wear all of that. Yeah, he did. Yeah He went We used to go to the tailor shop and get a Suit made for the morning. That's right. That's right. We parted all every day three times a day three times a day We changed three times. I never wore the same suit twice man. Listen man. Look the man his best of his friends When Bishop gave the self to the Lord man his woman Gave all this suit to some of his friends you should see all the guys was wearing this shoes You would think it was with Bishop. He stopped wearing green. We were wearing black suits every Sunday He had a church and his friends had his suits on you would think it was him They had all this big hats on his shoes and everything like on coming to America. Yeah, you know like that Hey, let me tell you something you'd be surprised what a woman do my daddy told me after mama died He got me some chick at the lake late of his that damn bed He said man this woman. I just got she know how to cook. She know how to make up A poach I'll take like a steak. This is how he He said man, and you know My other step mom all up under wows and stuff like that was in the attic for years She went up there and washed them and I had them so can you imagine what another woman to wear your clothes if you leave? Hey, man, I think this happened The man was so cold. I watched him. I took notes He did this thing. I did my thing, but he was just wild man and chicks man. The chick was on her dime bed. She got shot Her birthday as I told the 23rd like man with the same birthday. I mean, she was on my name was Michelle He go to the hospital. I'm with them the chick dying bleeding them She said I just the only baby get you get you some more money. I just want to get you some money Give him some money. Who this thing is? She told bitch of that on that dime bed. I'd rather get you Man left the woman get saying he wanted to get up and go to work The man so cold man, I look at him. I said man is this my friend we came up again But he will real cool number man. I haven't seen them man Damaged them chicks man. These guys one of them these guys was simps They was on the cover dope doesn't you know the one I'm talking about and they're coming just hang with us man They'll come around as a hang man They wouldn't leave they wanted to be something they want man because you can't be a pimp and a drug Do you want to do you can do what you keep that? Yeah, you can watch this camera like you're doing all these cameras You can do what you want to do But a lot of guys fake they self chasing clout the day they come around us you chasing clout stop chasing clout And come on in the right way they they want to know this person They want to know this person want to know this person gotta pay for it. I sit man the game is sold Man, I just know that when when you look at Chicago I seen ice cube came up here and did Barbershop that was a base a story based out of Chicago like people are based movies out of Chicago, man How do you guys feel when other actors? We don't like that No, we don't like that you check in with us when you come to Chicago You check in with us cuz we got enforcers. We got we got brothers will step up Brothers Don't let y'all can't come in do what you want to do Cuz my I got brothers now let a movie truck pull up in Chicago Don't contact us and put some our people's in it the Jews want to come in here and take over Chicago Yes, and our people don't laugh they shut them down You stop it it take them maybe seven days to pack up. I'll tell you what when when our people come back I ain't gonna call their name. Hmm. They'd be gone in about eight hours. They'd be packed up and gone Wow, because number one, why would you come in Chicago and take over Chicago? This should be in California. So I'm holding Chicago down now That brother now you just feel him last night. Yes, sir. We got do what called them boys. Hmm them boys coming You can't take over Chicago. None of you rappers none of y'all come in and respect us and put some our guys in your video Pay some our guys don't come downtown and run in Chicago. We love you But you got to respect us too So when you seen the barbershop movie and you seen those actors that were not from here portraying that well I like ice cube ice cube did a good job on that movie portraying it Yeah, he did I love ice cube. He did a good job But they they try to put my son in it some happened with my son. He couldn't make it ice cube a good brother too now Okay, but I'm talking about the Jews now. Okay, you're okay juice because I think and put up the money But the Jews that's you that's right ice cube ice cube a good good brother. I'm just talking about the Jews They come in set up the movie trucks and try to take over man least respect Chicago because these brothers have paid their life For the corn them corners. You're not gonna do what you want to do in a community in this community If you think I'm driving look up tea fly Okay on California and Harrison yeah, so your good brother he feeding a lot of brothers over there He take care a lot of brothers. He's doing a wonderful thing. So they won't respect. That's all they want Hey, man, if you can feed other people's feet some of our guys been living on these Decoralists for years. That's all ain't nobody trying to hate and hurt nobody. That's really what it's love and respect No, they respect you man respect the community and fight fight off our community man We need brothers over here need jobs. We need need help man They should do that everywhere because a lot of times these big productions come into all these different cities And bring their own people and it's filming. They ain't gonna not give anything back to the city Oh, they don't have to check in with us and amen what you like to do, sir They didn't get a lot of scenes. You know, I did something in empire. I did some stuff in there But I ain't got shut down to a lot of stuff. You got to do right. You have to do right in Chicago Yeah, you must do some of those scenes and right on the phone. Yeah, right on cause what you have to do, right? They take they feel I'm right in front of taste book I did some did some did I'm his new show here too. I'm one of his new shows was a lot of Chicago They do a lot here, but sometimes man is good to check in with us and see right Can we do something? You know, we may say yes or no, but we got a lot of young talent here today, man Chicago is nothing to play with Chicago with so much killing in Chicago Get him something to do when y'all come to Chicago contact us Get a young people these young rappers a chance. They good. Yeah, they real good man And you got a host of like little dirt. You got a bunch of people here man a bunch of artists here But you have some that like King Von are no longer here. You got all these kids a lot of them died You know mama duck. She always talking about her son Like it's a lot of it's a lot of history when it comes to the music It's a lot of history when it comes to the culture whether whether it's the start of a gang or whatever But a lot of people talk about Chicago. They a lot of people because of the media won't even come to Chicago They're not gonna come because you know why they know they don't play fair. That's all see you here Yeah, I'm gonna you when you play fair It's hard to do right If you do right right gonna follow you But you got to do right with folks man. Yeah, that's why people said man don't wanna steal it He done right he did this thing but man, then brother got a tip they had off You know to us man. They got a tip they had off for we made a way for them rappers We made a way for him Nelly and all up Nelly was done. Yeah, you do your stuff We did stuff with Nelly Pimp juice. Yeah, I remember that experience with Nelly. Nelly mom Man, there ain't no rapper Once they get the bag do they come back and say huh? No, they forget man Man, we don't put a lot of I'll put a lot of people And I'll say I love Snoop Dogg did that that's the one that really embraced like y'all man And just y'all seem like y'all and you like y'all in one accord Like I said Kenny Kenny doing a good job and I see doing a good job. What are you doing ice tea, man? I'm glad for you at home with mama Did you got a question? I'm gonna say yes. Yes, so um with Don Juan did he ever find up and get married you look married Yeah Man Bishop Bishop his mother told me before she passed. She said see more You my son best friend Bishop came fight He don't know how to work on no car He he don't even know how to mop a floor. You only know how to sweep the floor She said all he know how to do is Deal with these girls and take these girls money. They money. Hmm. She said help my son Please help my son. He don't know how to do nothing So he still then he don't know how to do nothing Do you can find my good woman to settle down with? He got 24 kids I'll tell you what Okay, don't he's got way more kids That is some 60 something Wow Man Bishop ain't gonna work man Man the man gonna get his shoes shine and put his suit on and put his big hat and know what he's gonna do He's gonna look up at the Sun like this year up in the Sun. He asked her to the Sun. That's it Man, thank you didn't talk to the moon at night time Man, what do we do? He have a lot a lot of squirrels at his house by 78 square He know how to make them talk. He feed them peanuts. He can make them talk Yeah, they go in the house. That's who we love them. Don't swear them. Them is best friend But a chick he fall in love with no chick that I don't see them have some bad chicks Oh boy said my bitch you can't bump up. He said much money you got It's like that And they and he said What did you? What you want me to do with them? Do you want him? He started laughing The man just he good at his gift. What do you do? He's been doing specialized in women's and that's what he's doing You got to give a person this crown. That's what he specializes in My boy, and I love him. I ain't gonna say nothing bad about it But I'm just telling who he is and what he do, you know, he definitely Changed the game. Yeah, ain't been nobody like him You you know I see would have been worse if he to stay if Cocoa wouldn't grab ice tea Worst in hell Cocoa If Cocoa wouldn't grab ice tea and she changed ice tea life ice tea would have been the same way ice tea was something else Man, wow, I see from New York love ice tea ice tea was something else. I know Man, you see some stuff that he that's a blessing Cocoa got him by the hook and he a good guy. He had a home now being a father ice tea was something else No sugar coated That rose Royce I come to town. I want to give me a rose rush to ride around in town. What what what do I got a car? Oh, you got a come a car look at that website I'm saying USA and I'm gonna send a driver if I can't be there, but I'm either saying one of my driver Somebody gonna come pick you up in the new car. We ain't we got a lot of antiques But we got no old rose was is why we got another all new cars all new car Many new ones you got all of them new New right there in the front. I draw one that my son was one one I waited on Canada drive one, but he didn't show up So, you know, hey man, I really don't drive but you know, I came out just a sport support little Larry Hoover He's a good young man. You know got his life together make doing positive things for my young brothers in our community May God bless him and keep up That's what we are man. Like I say turn 50. That's why I came up He asked me, you know, we talked he asked me to come up and I'm here like anytime he called and going like that ever since we've been We I'm I'm two years older than him though. I got you got us. So you you know g of us all, you know Do you think you made the right decision getting with Not only that see he didn't even bring this up and listen, I didn't want we've been we've been singing together in the gospel group Over 30 years Y'all ain't singing like this father. His father became like my father and he told me what to do And he knew I was in the street and being a gangster, but I had to take my hat off to Minister Roy be it may he rest in heaven, you know in his brother Daryl beard the late Daryl beard We call him both. Yeah, you know what it mean He went on and that I know that damaged the minister and I was away, you know, I was way in the penitentiary But when I made a vow I said God if you take me through this and let me get through this I'll get back and I and I and I and I made that vow to my friend and only that my vow to God To do that. So a lot of my wife and a lot of people they don't understand the relationship that we have But if it wasn't for minister Seymour, I know I would have been dead Yeah, because you know one thing about him he won't put the gun Hey, man, you can't keep right with me with two guns every day. Then you got one in your sock. Yeah, come on, man I don't I don't want to live like that no more. No, I tell him man. If you stop can your gun You're not the other day. He wrote with me in the road. I said, man, can't nobody roll them This is on one side. Yeah, he in the back seat only none of them brother right in the car with me I tell him that you can ride with me Madden nigga shoot you in the head any nigga, you know, I've just been paired Lord like to me. That's what I asked a man Get in your own car. I don't want to ride what you get caught with no gun He won't put his guns up Put your guns up man. See, I don't you know, I don't have to indulge in that today, man It's like I said, you know, other people man It's around, you know famous to see more. Thank you for coming on the show candy man Like let's see what that means to see more name man. Like like When did you when did they start calling you that? Well Years ago, like I said when I was saying bitch you pull up in that rose. I thought it was Batman guy Hey, man, I want it more. I see more and I always got more and more 30-something rose was a big old big old big old pretty house Grandbabies, I just wanted more to take care of my family. I wouldn't want to see always wanted me a family And I got me a family. Wow. He got him a good girl. That's what's a fighter every day They be fighting up in front of the players But he mad he got it She checked me man the queen check me man much love the queen She checked me man Man, I had to lay it down, you know, I want you players be mad at me, but the truth is the truth man, man Thank you so much Okay, this is how long after okay, you saw Bishop with his Rolls Royce for the first time How long did it take you to go by your first Rolls Royce after that? Maybe I couldn't let me tell you something I could have got heels when it sees his Rolls Royce came from Tyrone Davis Really I play good time play good time for Bobby will make Johnny Taylor Wow We was all at the gambling table. They was gambling Bishop. They was gambling Tyrone needed some money If Bishop said he had a lot of one got my money out about it because I had the money But he bought it Tyra. They was gambling but he bought Tyrone Davis Rolls Royce Then when he wouldn't it had to psyched out so after then I had a pretty kid Maybe about 10 years later. I styled multiplying candy with women when I got my first Rolls Royce, right? So I went and got it and he was with me and I I just been building up because the US USA luxury rental USA. It's really going and You're looking at Indians a rafts. They love to be in Rolls Royce's It's only Rolls Royce's you do or you have other I got other cars But I got other cars what they love. I got them antique Rolls Royce's 1936 1937. I just have phantom earlier I got all them was fine through two fantasies out there last. Okay, but the older cars People love them. Yeah, they go. Oh, you know like your mother is mother father all the people man I remember I want always getting a run on so you come to Chicago look up luxury rental USA You can get the Rose was you can get in a yacht cuz we got six on the water now so next year Early, maybe April or May Call that number come to Chicago. Jamie Foxx was on one of the boats. Oh, yeah Oh, the week he was on you to mess me up with that Tyrone Davis. I'm a big Tyrone They who the get Tyrone David little Milton any of them boys man. Johnny Taylor good. Zee Zee But come on man, you couldn't get tired for all of them. I play guitar down through the years Like I said came from Utah With all the wine is all the old people just jump around I have an uncle used to call the chicken man He used to make all the chickens dance with the music. He made rest in PC going on Everybody used to be down there that street and playing guitar aunties aunties uncles and had no shoes on drunk and fighting down there the old school man Holland Wolf, thank you Hey, man. Thank you guys man for coming on the show man The lie candy man man miller to see more it went down man boss talk one-on-one what a boss is taught