 My name is Stephen Lowry. I'm the director of the equity gender and tenure program at C4. The aim of the program is to provide opportunities for young Indonesian leaders in the forestry, conservation, biodiversity and private sectors to pursue a master's degree training in the United States. The program is very interesting because it's a master's degree program. It's a resource-based master's degree so that all students are required to do a thesis. But importantly, USAID, the funder of the program, has provided additional funding that enables the students, for instance, to return to Indonesia between the first and second year to do field research in Indonesia on really urgent or current Indonesian problems in the natural resources sector or the forestry sectors. So this is quite unusual to have this kind of added research opportunity. Another aspect of what I call program enrichment, due to the generosity of USAID, is that the program enables universities to bring their faculty to Indonesia during this period of field research to work with the students in the field and the faculty gain a better understanding of the context within which the students are going to work. And then thirdly, C4 scientists are assigned to work with each of the students as members of the research committees. And so, of course, C4 scientists have tremendous knowledge and experience of the research issues and the environmental issues, the forestry issues in Indonesia. They add, let's say, further and rich the experience of the students by being on their committees. My name is Jeff Lazar. I am a natural resources officer in the US Agency for International Development, Jakarta, in our Environment Office. I feel very fortunate to be involved with this program. So far it's been a tremendous success. The first cohort, I'm meeting a number of them today. They're coming back, getting ready to conduct their research. Also, some of the members of the second cohort who are just beginning will be heading to the US soon. With USAID, one thing we're always concerned about is sustainability. Sustainability in the sense of our investments. We're always concerned that, you know, if we're investing in some effort, what will happen after USAID's funding ends and will there still be impacts? Something for me is very exciting about this program. I really think it's a really great investment of USAID resources because when I see these very passionate, very bright, energetic young scholars, I think, you know, USAID may be this program, you know, eventually will come to an end, but these people, maybe young people, 20, 30, 40, maybe even 50 years from now, they will still be positively affecting biodiversity conservation in Indonesia.