 Welcome Member Steffi. Can we test your audio and video, please? Hi. Thank you so much. And Member Harrell, can we test your audio and video, please? Yes. I just unmuted and stopped and opened my video. Can you see me? Yep. You're perfect. Thank you so much. Okay. Danielle, would you like to administer an oath before we get started? No. Member Harrell has already had her oath of office. Okay. Good to know. Thanks. Thank you. I just saw Member Lange come on in. Did I see that correctly? Yep. Hi. We just need one more person to make for him. All right. Looks like our eighth member is here. So we can get started. Good, everybody. A second to turn on the cameras. Thank you. Good evening, everyone. Thank you for joining us. I'd like to see all of you. At this time, I'd like to call the order. The June meeting of the Canadian advisory board. And Danielle would you like to take a poll? Yes. Right. Member Barnett. Here. Member Bartholos absent. Member Harrell. Thank you. Member Innocencio's absent. Member Lange. Present. Thank you. Member Rom. I've not seen him come in yet. Member Richardson. I see her. Member Rodriguez. Here. Member Square. Member Square here. I don't see him. Member Steppy. Here. Thank you. Member Wiseman is absent. Vice chair weeks. Here. And chair graves. Present. Thank you. Member Bartholos. Okay. So let the record show that all members are present except for members Bartholos, Innocencio, Rom, Square, and Wiseman. Great. Thank you. I do want to welcome our new member. Chair graves. You made it yourself. The heat is getting to us all. Okay. So, uh, I was saying that I do want to introduce our new member, which I will leave that to item number three at this time. We've closed out item number one and moving on to item number two, which is public comments. There are currently no hands raised for public comment. Great. Thank you. And. I misspoke. That's item number four that I'm waiting for, for that introduction. Uh, so moving on to item number three is the approval of the minutes. This is the minutes from April 27th. Uh, this year. Uh, and that was attached to our emails and made available to the public. And we do not have any minutes from May. Um, because our meeting was canceled due to lack of a forum. So. From our cabinets. Is there any discussion about those minutes? Any need for an edit? I am seeing none. Thank you. Thank you. I'll motion to approve. I'll motion to approve. Thank you. I'll second. Thank you for that second. You can catch both those Danielle. And Danielle will do the roll call votes. Okay. Um, as a reminder, if you were not here for the April meeting, you will need to abstain. Um, so member Barnett. Member Harold. You will abstain. Okay. Okay. Member Lange. Yes. Um, member, okay. Remember Richardson. Yes. Okay. Member Rodriguez. Abstain. Okay. And member Steppy. Yes. It's approved. And, um, let's see vice chair weeks. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'll move to abstain. I was on vacation. That's right. And chair graves. Through. We may want to visit. If that. Would simplify an approval of the minutes because of form, because of a. A lack of form to approve. Yeah, we only have five yeses on that one. Um, we're going to need, uh, we need more. Okay. Thank you. At this time, do we have any public comments? I did this incorrectly. I, I, uh, I apologize to our guests that are here in attendance this evening. This is my, um, I have no excuse. I don't, not even the heat is an excuse for this one. I knew better. Do we have any. There are no hands raised for public comment. Well, thank goodness. And that saved me on that one. I'm going to try to be better at this, this evening. Uh, Moving on to item number four, which is our cab announcements. And before we go around the zoom screen on that, I just wanted to make sure that we have a couple of questions. Um, If you do want to welcome a new newest member and this, uh, from district number. Three. Yes. District number three. So council member Diana McDonald has appointed member of Harold. And this is the first time that we're meeting. And I would love if you could maybe just take a quick 60 seconds. Uh, Tell us a little bit about yourself. Introduce yourself. Uh, my name is Iris Harold. I lived in Oakmont, uh, for the last six years. I retired from, uh, Silicon Valley as, um, Founder, uh, have, uh, as a, of a general contracting design build company sold it to my employees. All 40 of them. And they're doing well without me, which is a good sign. I have been very active on the, um, Volunteer work here at Oakmont. Uh, Oakmont is a senior community of what? 4,700 people with 3,200 homes. And I, they needed their facilities updated. And I have been a member of the fountain grove golf club. Cause I'm like, I golf in my retirement and I helped rebuild that, um, fountain grove club house that burned down. And I just, uh, love being part of this community. And, uh, I, my wife, uh, is in Benson and we've been together for 43 years. So I'm here to represent some diversity with my gray hair and LGBT community. Well, thank you. Yeah. Exactly. Thanks, member Richardson. I love that. Um, thank you. And welcome. We appreciate you stepping up and, uh, serving with us. Thank you. At least once a month, but we'll probably see you at a few events as well as we talk about that. Potentially. Um, And I know that we are still looking for more cab members. Correct. Danielle. One more. Which district is that? That would be district two. Um, Um, Um, So district two. So, uh, if you know of. People who could maybe pass that along to council member Sawyer. And, uh, let him know that you have a potential. Uh, And remember here, we'll just start with you. Cab announcements as a time when cab members may share community news of interest to the cab as a whole. And you may also announce if you need to depart early from the meeting at this time. Member Harold, we'll start with you. Oh, Do I have any announcements? Oh, I don't think so. Actually. Um, I'd like to go last. Let me say that. Okay. Oh, There were other people are announcing that I'll announce something. Great. We'll have you mute. Well, we have everybody go. And member Steppy, you are up. Thank you. Thank you. Good evening, everyone. My announcements are, and you might have already heard this, but I'm really excited. We now have two amazing beautiful murals at L. Seattle in high school, both of which the cab helped to fund. So weaving cultures was created the last year during actually the last few years during the pandemic and the students kind of, really involved with that. And it's a gorgeous mural that's in the front of the school, and they just finished the spirit of healing, which is a collaboration between art start and the high school and the high school foundation and the art department and the Pomo project. And that one's now completed. They're both gorgeous. So next time you're in that neck of the woods, which hopefully you are often it's a lovely part of our city. Check out both the murals and know that you can be proud that we helped to fund them. So that is what we're going to do. We're going to be proud that we helped to fund them. So that is my announcement. Thank you for that. And thank you for sitting on top of that and participating. We appreciate it. It's been my honor actually. Any further comments? Have members. I just want to piggyback on what member Stethi said. I saw the murals. They are absolutely stunning. I was very emotional looking at them. It was my reaction. Maybe because I haven't been to LCN in a long time, but I was part of their first graduating class. But I just think that they were absolutely beautiful. And they're just breathtaking. So if you get a chance to go over, I would second that and encourage going to look at them. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, member Richardson and thanks for that tidbit. The first graduating class at LC all. That says how old I am. Well, I just, I just love that little tidbit. That's a great community. Factory right there. Not not meaning to put you on the spot member land, They will piggyback on the last announcement. I sit on the LCL and high school foundation board. And so it was nice to have the end of the year celebratory awards and to be able to inculcate the celebration of the mural and the overall art exhibits that they've been doing this whole year. They did a phenomenal single tile piece of Cesar Chavez that was then put together in a various form of modality and painting. So again, if you were looking and want to contribute to this community, we could always use helpful community advisory members on the foundation board if you're interested and further service, plug, plug. Second announcement, we had our Juneteen celebration last Saturday and that was co-sponsored by a number of organizations, but most importantly, Black leaders and organizations setting that out in the MLK Park and the South Park, or excuse me, in off of Henley Street. And it was really well attended and it was fun to kick off the day with a march in honor of Vince Harper. So we started at Juilliard Park with the Boogaloo crew and marched down Santa Rosa Avenue up through Petaluma Hill Road. Other opportunities to engage with all of the organizations, of course, as they come up, I will share. In the next few weeks, Summit County Black Forum will be launching two partnerships. One is a rapid assistance fund. They receive approval for two of their ARPA proposals. So one will be for rapid assistance for rental needs and for financial support. As folks see it fit, some more on the application and process I'll share as the contracts are confirmed. And then the second piece is a Black therapy fund, which will provide 120 people with one year's worth of therapy vouchers. And we are establishing the network of therapists in the region. So we have about nine folks who've committed so far. Our goal is to get to 12 so that their caseload in addition to their regular patients is not saturated but we recognize there are not a ton of Black mental health therapists here and we also too wouldn't wanna overload them while they're trying to manage the already strained market and need. And hopefully that data and that program will allow for us to present back to the county a much needed effort to pull the load for mental health support and services as we know that the pandemic has had a hard impact on most of the community. And I think that's it. Cause everything else I sit on is on a summer break. So. I know that you also had your food distribution drive. Oh yeah. I was not there. So it was a finishing up volleyball but that food drive did feed 500 families and it vaccinated another 20 people. It's my understanding at this last, at the Juneteenth celebration of the additional maybe 20 people were vaccinated which has now continued to grow the threshold of overall vaccinated folks. I'm gonna fumble this but work with me. I think it's the demographic for Black, African American identifying is now the most vaccinated ethnic group in the county. So being 2% of the population, I believe it's like 1.7% are vaccinated. So the efforts have definitely made a huge difference running before vaccine clinics at the major food drives and again, having it available at Juneteenth. Fantastic. Thank you for allowing me to put you on the spot a little bit right there. Yeah, no problem. I do a lot so I don't remember half the time. I appreciate it. And vice chair weeks. Hello everyone. I also attended Juneteenth and it was indeed well attended, a lot of fun. I got horribly sunburned unfortunately, probably during the dancing component or they were doing Zumba and wandering around from stall to stall chatting with folks. And so it was a really great time. And in the background, I think you could also hear country summer playing. So there was kind of a lot of mixed vibes and it was really great. And I had to say it was a little bit emotional for me, you know, being an honor for, you know, Vince and everything and, you know, me filling his seat. It's a little heavy. It's a heavy burden to bear. So it was a really nice event and I'm glad we were able to honor him. I'm sure he would have really appreciated it. On a slightly less upsetting note, I'd just like to let everyone know that we have until July 3rd, actually, for the public to contribute to the housing element process. And for those that are not aware, the housing element, excuse me, I identify as the current conditions and future needs of housing in Santa Rosa, while, you know, really kind of categorizing objectives and aligning policies and programs that'll help us meet those needs. And so it's really important that folks engage in this process because it's going to help, you know, us prepare for the future and create the community that we want. And this is being done in tandem with our general plan update. So there's a lot going on and a lot of this, you know, kind of circles around, you know, everything from walkability of our neighborhoods to bikeability, to ensuring that we have complete streets and that we can safely move about the downtown area. So as I'm sure many of you know, college is terrifying to bike on and almost no one does it for that reason. The same can be said for Mendocino, but I know the city's working really hard to actually improve that. And they're looking into a variety of options to actually expand our existing plan and really focus on expanding our bike network. So I'm very pleased to hear that, but I would like to really encourage the public to get engaged. This is, the housing element specifically is a once in an eight year process. So it's crucial that folks get out there that they voice their opinions. Right now you can actually visit sanarosaforward.com and then you click the housing link up top, it'll take you to the draft housing element page and you can read the document. And then they actually have this nifty little tool that allows you to provide direct comments into the document itself. And you can actually see other folks comments as well. So again, I would strongly encourage everyone to participate, engage in this process. It's super important. Housing is the foundation of any community and we can house our families. We're not gonna have much of a community. So again, please participate and spread the word. And if you have any questions, feel free to reach out to me. Thank you. Thank you for that information. And for those of us that can see the chat, Danielle also included a link in the chat that also is a little bit of a pitch for the Let's Connect website. Go figure. Thank you, Danielle. And that is a resource here in sanarosa. It is an adjunct website to the city's website. So the Let's Connect. Let's connect sr.com. So L-U-T-S-C-O-N-N-E-C-T-S-R.com and that was spelled out for our guests. And I'd also like, oh, is there any other comments from those who haven't spoken up? Timber Barnett, I see reaching for a keyboard. I can't help myself. I'm always thinking that you're gonna have to comment, but is that true? Sure, I'll pitch in. Sorry if I sound like a frog in my throat. I'm actually recovering from COVID and this is my first day testing negative. So I'm 50% of the way because you have to do two tests, but so apologies if I sound froggy. Earlier this month, I went on an infrastructure ride with Rob Sprinkle and Bjorn Greenberg with transportation after I submitted. Well, I did a couple of things, but I submitted to council and I also submitted to the My Santa Rosa app. And the thing I forgot to ask them is, which way it got to them, whether it was through the My Santa Rosa app or it was through the email to council about Steel Lane and the infrastructure in front of the school. And as Cal was just talking about, that it's not a very convenient route for pedestrians or cyclists. And so we actually went on an infrastructure ride on Steel Lane. I was able to give some direct feedback and some follow-up with them on email. And then as far as community events, I figure since I got the mic, I do wanna encourage folks since it crosses through three districts, Santa Rosa Taco Tuesday ride has been the paper. It's an awesome community, socially distanced event. And it is exactly what it sounds like. We meet at Humboldt Park at 545, pedals up at 615. It is a community bike ride of every walk of life. And they leave from Humboldt Park ride through the neighborhood and the JC neighborhood actually end up over in the McDonald neighborhood and up back and downtown. They stop downtown kind of like a little intermission and then take either go behind the mall or we take the path and go out to the taco trucks in Roseland. So it crosses through three council districts and it's a great opportunity to meet your neighbors. There's folks that are coming from all over the city to come to this ride. Our youngest rider to date was eight weeks and our oldest was 80. So it's a lot of fun. So that's the two things I can talk about for this month in June. And thank you for continuing to mention them the Tuesday taco ride because it is gaining in popularity. So I know that a lot of people have been putting work into that. So thank you for doing that. And it's just a fabulous thing. And I'm sorry that I haven't been able to get myself out there yet for various reasons. But before I go on, Vice Chair Meeks. I did forget one thing. There was actually a mural that went on the parking garage behind Russian River. I don't know if we funded it. I have no idea because it might have been pre my time but it turned out really nice. And I for one am tired of these bleak, you know, dismal looking parking structures. So adding a little color is most welcome. I know previously when I was on the cab many years back we actually helped fund the mural that's kind of on the backside. And it's like a redwood grove. And it's quite lovely. So I think we should keep it up. And anyone in the community who would like to propose a mural project I certainly invite you to come forward. I for one would be very interested in funding more of those in the future. And then I think Member Harrell actually wanted to say something. I couldn't be mistaken. Hold on. So I also want to just quickly mention that the chat is not a public forum. If I'm correct, can the public see that, Danielle? Yes, it should be equal to. If you click on, I think it's everyone. Is that not correct, Madeline? We normally disable it to overlaid conversations back and forth. So I would, I would just ask the CAB members not to communicate in CAB. If there is a link, Danielle can do that. But that would be something that we shouldn't be communicating back and forth on as I've been told. So I just wanted to point that out. Thank you so much, Member Harrell. Well, now that I realize that this is about what's going on in the city that I don't know about, which is great. You know, many of you probably haven't been into OGMON because if you drive in there, you'll think you might turn 55 automatically. But I assure you it won't happen. There is a, we have some incredible artists here. I mean, incredible artists. And they're having, they have an art club, but they have an OGMON artist here. They have an art club, but they have an OGMON Arts and Crafts Fair on Saturday at 10 from 10 to 12, it's under solar canopy. So nobody passes out on the parking lot. And they sell, you know, art and other, other things there. That's this Saturday at the Burger Auditorium. But so I just want you to know what people like your grandmothers are doing and grandfathers out here. You know, when you see OGMON geographically, it's kind of like an arm stuck out from the city. And when you talk about bike trails and bike ability, Highway 12 should be bikeable. And it's certainly not taking your life in your own hands. We, we, the other thing I wanted to tell you is that once June 11th, we had our own little, there's our rainbow women club here in OGMON, the 150 lesbians who meet once a month. And we have our own little gay day parade. This time we did, mainly because of COVID, we didn't go to the city one. And so we had one through Oakmont Drive, which is about a mile and a half long on golf carts and bicycles. And I just woke everybody up as we blowing horns and stuff. So just so you know what's going on in our part of town, I am going to be talking with the city person who is in charge of bike trail planning this week. Oakmont has an interest in that because we have some bike trails that'll come into Oakmont through some of our, through Anondale. So we're very excited about what's coming with bike trails. Thank you. Thank you, Member Harrell. And I can, I bet you Member Barnett is interested in what that conversation will end up being. I will not go on any further, but just know that Member Barnett may be contacting you. All right. So I wanted to chat a little bit about just give thank you to our staff and the community engagement department for putting on a wonderful wildfire ready resource fair. I know that was back in May, but since we didn't have our May meeting, I just wanted to mention that. And also your participation in a good many events here in the city, like whether it be our Pride Day festival and parade or our Peggy Sue classic car show. There's been quite a few events and also the Juneteenth event, which again, I apologize. I was not able to make it. We did have a family emergency on Saturday, so I was not able to be there. I also want to point out some upcoming events that may be of interest and we'll be taking place before our next meeting. There is a WaterSmart Expo on Wednesday at the Wednesday Night Market coming up next week on the 29th. It's really important, obviously, during this time of drought and increasing drought, unfortunately. We also on that same exact date next Wednesday, I know that our presenters may be talking about a virtual town hall that's coming up about Measure O, but I want to mention that before our guests leave that there's a virtual town hall on Wednesday the 29th with council member McDonald and Sawyer as well as Shwelltown. It'll be from six to seven o'clock and there is information on the city website for that. And then coming up on July 9th is our Park a Month program where the community members are invited to come out to a park each month. It's a different park each month. This time it will be at Galvin Park, that's district two. I hope to make it myself. Over by the Bene Valley Golf Course from nine to 12 on Saturday, July 9th. And on July 10th, this is just a deadline to be aware of. Our merit awards is having a deadline on July 10th. If you have not checked out the merit awards page, I encourage you to do that on the city website. And I encourage all of our members here and our guests to think about someone that may have been contributing over this past year to community and to our city and nominate them for a merit award as this is open to anyone who has spent their time volunteering to do good things in our community. So with that, I will now open it up to public comment. There are currently no hands raised for public comment. Thank you. That'll close out that item, which is number four and we're moving on to item number five, our staff updates. We have a good list of staff updates, Danielle. I'm gonna pass it on to you. How would everybody feel if we move this item till after the measure of presentation so we don't keep our guests in the room? So we don't keep our guests waiting? That'd be okay. So without any objection, we'll move that item to, we'll move item number five, the item, an addendum of item 6.2. And I don't hear any objection. So thank you for that. And at this time, I'm going to pass over the gavel to our vice chair weeks. If you are still open to that vice chair. Sorry, I lost my mute there for a second. No, I'm definitely happy to take the reins and thank you so much, Chair Graves. At this point, I would like to kick off item 6.1, which is gonna be a presentation of measure update in public education outreach. And I'm very pleased, I think to, I believe Mr. Alonso will be moderating this discussion. So at this point, I will pass the virtual gavel to him. Good evening. Thank you, Chair Graves, vice chair weeks and members of CAB. My name is Scott Alonso. I do intergovernmental relations and a legislative officer for the city of Santa Rosa. And I am here this evening joined by our fire chief, Scott Westrup and police chief, John Cregan. And we're here to discuss a sales tax that has been in Santa Rosa since 2004, known as Measure O. And that is a dedicated public safety sales tax, including funding for violence prevention programs. And the reason we're presenting to you tonight is last year, the city council directed staff to come up with a robust public education initiative and engagement strategy to hear from the community about Measure O and convey to the community what Measure O is because it's been around for so long. Folks may not realize it's around and that you're paying for it. And the reason this is so important and we'll get through it in the slides is that the council on July 12th, so coming up here just in under two weeks, will consider whether or not to renew Measure O on the ballot for this November. And so that is why we're meeting with various community groups and stakeholders. We've been meeting with folks for the past just over two months now, groups like the Measure O oversight committee. We've met with the board of community services. We've met with a few Rotary groups, Health Action Santa Rosa we've met with. And we've also had some town hall meetings. So happy to dive into that too and convey that as well. So we'll get right through it. We have a few slides to go through and we're really here to answer questions and hear feedback on what you all wanna see in the future of Measure O for the city. So if we could go next slide, thank you. And so Measure O was a quarter cent sales tax approved by the voters in November of 2004. And as you may know, a dedicated sales tax in California needs a two thirds vote in the affirmative. And that is a very high bar to meet. And for the city's benefit, 70% of the voters in 2004 approved Measure O and is now in effect until March 31st of 2025. So that is when the tax expires. And Measure O provides a dedicated funding that cannot supplant general fund funding. And so it's a separate stream of income for three city departments, actually four, excuse me. And so it provides funding for the police department, fire department and violence prevention programs. And so the violence prevention programs are under two different city departments, the recreation department, and then the opposite community engagement, which oversees VPP. And so the way it works right now under the current funding formula is that 40% of funding goes to the police department, 40% of the funding goes to the fire department and 20% of the funding goes to violence prevention programs. So Measure O currently funds over 25 city staff and we'll dive into that a little bit when Chief Cregan and Chief Westrop speak. And then in total, if you look at a yearly basis on VPP programs, it's over 400,000 hours of programming for youth and family such as mental health services, public health, gang prevention and social services. And so all that programming is from the VPP and recreation side. Next slide, please. And then I just wanna turn it over to Chief Cregan and he'll go over the slide for the police department. Thank you so much, God. And thank you so much for our community firefighters of your board for allowing us to speak before your group tonight. For this, we wanna talk specifically about the police department and how the police department is utilizing some of the Measure O funds. Some of the information they have on here is from the stats from 2020. And we saw over 203,000 calls get handled by our 911 dispatch center here in the city of Santa Rosa. Over 72,000 of those calls were emergency 911 calls for service saying that I need someone here immediately for my assistance. For us, 2021 was another busy year. We saw one of the stats that we've been talking about some of the community groups. We saw 471 reported shootings in the city of Santa Rosa in 2021. I live here in Santa Rosa. I don't wanna see our community to continue to have 471 shootings. We had six homicides in all of 2021. And so far we're just through half the year we see in our seventh homicide we had last week for 2022. So those are alarming trends for us. And some of the things we're really working on some of our violence reduction efforts for the Measure O funds are instrumental to us being successful for that. Where we have right now is in the police department. We have 16 full-time funded positions funded directly by Measure O. 11 of those are sworn positions of police officers and five of those are civilian positions which are embedded with our dispatch and our records division and our field evidence technicians with processed crime scenes and testifying court as experts on crime scene and the collection of blood, DNA and other evidence. For us, Measure O we follow the original parameters of Measure O which is to focus on patrol. So for us, the patrol resources not only going for our calls for service I've responded to about a dozen emails today about our sideshow responses. And it's certainly something that's of a community interest and patrol has certainly plays a key role with some of the things that we need to do to increase our capacity with the sideshows that are occurring across the city of Santa Rosa. But the other one is responding to local emergencies and the biggest emergency that we all know about and especially is looming over our head as we approach the fire season is our wildfires and Chief Westrop is gonna be talking now and his incredible team plays such a key role in actually fighting the fire themselves and being able to protect our community but the police department's role in the wildfires is solely focused on evacuations and we've had in some of the larger fires here that we saw with the Kincaid fire where we evacuated 60,000 residents from the city of Santa Rosa but year after year, we've seen thousands evacuated from Reakin Valley, from Bennett Valley, from Oakmont and different areas across the city and these are very staff intensive. And then the other sad reality that we need to deal with is the traffic control after to reduce some of that especially when the power's out to decrease crashes but the one that's troubling is the looter patrol that we see every single fire. People moving into these neighborhoods where they know people are in the neighborhoods and it's like, and basically it's they're revictimizing people who've already been victimized. So we have to really put a heavy presence in those areas to prevent residential and commercial burglaries in these homes and these areas that are affected by the evacuations. Also conducting traffic enforcement and that really is like leading with the sideshow enforcement, which is one of our top efforts but also we've had five fatal collisions so far here in the city of Santa Rosa this year. So we're working to do what we can to be able to address some of the community traffic safety complaints but also what we can do to reduce some of the serious injury and even fatal collisions that we have occurring in here in the city of Santa Rosa. And then Mejaro specifically calls out of having an increased presence in the downtown area which includes a substation which is funded by Mejaro at our transit mall or transit center right there in downtown Santa Rosa and also in our focus on the railroad square and Prince Memorial Greenway area which are specifically mentioned in Mejaro. When we're doing that right now but out of our 11 foreign positions are focused five are in patrol. We have two in our downtown enforcement team two in our motor team with our motorcycle officers and others with some supervisor positions and traffic and with our event planning. And those are key areas that we wanna continue to focus going forward. We wanna look about what are some of the other things that we can use Mejaro funds with outside of just personnel. So one of the things that we're doing this year is we've written in for this next year and it's already going through the Mejaro oversight committee is expand our use of our body worn camera system. So right now each one of our officers wears a body worn camera like I have here on my chest. But what we found over the years is they can be rather limiting the what's captured on the body worn cameras especially in close contact exchanges. So we wanna install cameras on each one of our patrol vehicles. So there actually be three different cameras and all the patrol vehicles with a forward facing a side view and on the rear passenger area for anyone who's being transported in a vehicle. And that's for us for like the transparencies of our community, which is so important to us and certainly a demand from our community here in Santa Rosa. The accountability for us to be able to have a better understanding of any contacts that our officers have with community members and especially when we receive citizen complaints or other reports of misconduct that it gives us now three more lenses to look at to be able to really capture and understand what occurred and what was said in a full and complete capturing that incident from that community member. And then also most important too is the liability for the city. Now that we have pursuits and collisions and other things like that that we're gonna have them more holistically captured on that one of the other goals that we wanna use measure for is for building a substation in Roseland. And that's been clear for us as something that we wanna have a stronger presence in the Rosin community. We've heard very loudly and clearly from the Rosin community about wanting to see more officers there. We don't want officers who have to come across town to come back to the station for processing report and evidence. And so that's one of the things that we hope to use measure of funding within the future. So that's just a brief highlight of some of the call volume, the 16 funded positions that are right now part of the police department's staffing and then some of our vision going forward about what we wanna do with measure of. So I'll go ahead and turn it over to Chief Westrop to talk about some of the priorities with the fire department. Thanks, John and good evening everybody. Good evening, Chair Graves and members of the board. Scott Westrop fire chief of the city of Santa Rosa. A little bit of history in the last calendar year about the city of Santa Rosa fire department. We ran just over 28,000 calls per service last year. And I'm gonna throw some stats at you that'll become important as we move through this, but 65% on average of what we do on a day-to-day basis is medically related. So emergency medical services response. We typically see a two to 3% increase in call volume per year. Looking at the stats as we come up at mid-year, we're probably gonna breach the 30,000 calls per service mark, which would be the first time we've seen that in Santa Rosa. We do this with 148 dedicated employees throughout three bureaus, our operations bureau, administrative bureau and prevention bureau. We also manage the two emergency managers we have here in the city. And as you probably know, we have 10 strategically located fire stations throughout the city. On a daily basis, we have 10 advanced life support fire engines, which are the short pumping engines you see on a daily basis and two advanced life support ladder trucks, the big ladder trucks with two drivers in the front and the rear. So our minimum daily staffing is 39. So that fills all the seats that we have on a daily basis. On top of all that, we conducted over 30,000 hours of training last year and that's pretty much on par for what we do. Completed 3,200 plus fire inspections and 13,000 weed abatement inspections. So for our size, we're a very busy fire department. Right now we have a strategic plan and a deployment analysis that shows we need to move two of our fire stations and build in staff to fire stations. So we're undersized, we're making good progress. We're getting there, but there's a lot of work to be done to make sure that we're providing service to the community now and to the future. So talking specifically about Measure O, as Scott referenced, Measure O can be used in three different ways for the fire department. Personnel, facilities and equipment. So on the personnel front, we have 10.25 positions tied to Measure O. So that's three fire captain paramedics. Those are the frontline supervisors on all of our apparatus, three engineer paramedics. Those are the apparatus operators or drivers of the equipment, three firefighter paramedics and our training captain who manages the training facility on West College Avenue. The quarter is a quarter of our EMS or emergency medical services battalion chief time is charged to Measure O. On top of all that, our truck companies, the ladder truck companies are advanced life support through Measure O. So the paramedic incentive is paid for Measure O. So in reality, we have 15 paramedic positions tied to Measure O. I know I throw a lot of numbers at you in the last three or four minutes, but the math is pretty simple. It takes nine positions for us to staff a fire station on a full-time basis. Three people on a fire engine, three shifts, three times three is nine. So we have 10.25 positions tied to Measure O, nine of which are in suppression. So essentially what we have tied to Measure O is an entire engine company. So if we were to lose 10% of our firefighting force, where we actually need to expand with four more stations or two more stations really, you can see where there's a delta there that Measure O really helps us keep at that minimum that we're at right now. So we need to expand, not contract. If we were to lose a station, it would take us back to probably right around 2009. As far as facilities goes, Measure O helped us build fire station five in Fountain Grove. Unfortunately, we lost that station during the Tubbs Fire and we're working on rebuilding that. Station 10 in the Southwest where I'm at right now and station 11 in the junior college district. One of the problems that we've seen with this tax is that it was obviously, as Scott Alonso referenced, was put in place in 2004. And what we've seen is the construction cost for everything. I rebuilt my house after the Tubbs and building fire stations is just all that much more expensive but the construction cost of fire is the revenue of Measure O dedicated to facilities. So what we don't have enough to build a fire station in there, what we've been able to do is actually enhance our facilities a little bit in certain areas. And what we did recently with some of the Measure O funding is purchase property to build a new fire station eight in Roseland. So we still have to make up that gap in funding to actually build the facility but we're able to purchase the property when it was available and it aligns with our strategic plan or our deployment analysis on where that station needs to be. And it's turning into a much bigger project in that it's actually the Roseland Community Hub is being planned by Office of Community Engagement down there. So we're really excited about the opportunity but that's the things that Measure O can do for us as it gives us that revenue so we can actually go out and make those improvements to the community. And lastly on equipment, we've purchased type one engines which are the pumping engines you see on a daily basis driving around with Measure O. We purchased a type three wildland firefighting engine with it. We purchased swift water equipment and training with it. So we're actually a type two California typed swift water team. So when it does rain, you know, this equipment is getting a little bit, a little bit dry as you might imagine but we have rescue swimmers, we have the ability to put boats in the water, things like that. So as an all risk department, we have to be able to adapt to any circumstance. We've purchased command vehicles that our incident commanders use for commanding large scale incidents. And then this last year, what we did was we found there was a communications gap that we had and as we all know, communications, the first thing to fail and usually the most catastrophic thing to fail during the tubs and the glass fires. So we purchased all new dual banded mobile radios. That's very technical, I understand, but mobile radios are the ones that go in our equipment or in our apparatus. They're mounted in the vehicle and dual banded means we can talk on fire frequencies and on law enforcement frequencies. So when we're doing a coordinated evacuation, no matter what the incident may be, we're now on the same sheet of music, we're on the same communications channel. The other thing that came with that radio package was mobile repeaters. So typically our tactical networks, we have to be within line of sight. I have to be able to see that fire engineered to be able to talk to it on a certain frequency. Now we can put mobile repeaters in place. There'll be disks on top of our command vehicles that we can turn on and expand our repeater network and expand our capability and communications. And also if we, hopefully we don't, but if we do see something like tubs again where we lost 72 cell towers that had our radio infrastructure on them, we have mobile radio infrastructure so we can keep our communications networks up and running. So that's the kind of things that Mejero does for the fire department. Obviously it's huge on the personnel front in that it essentially is the equation of a full-time fire station. The facilities, we need to build a lot more and expand. And the equipment is pivotal as you saw in our budget this year. The addition of a capital replacement program is obviously a priority to make sure that we're putting the right hands, the right tools in the right hands to protect us all and protect this community. So with that, Scott, I'm not sure I'm turning this over to I didn't see Magali or Jeff on the call. So are you handling VPP? Yeah. All right. Thank you. Thanks, Chief. And thanks, Chief Krigan. So next slide please. So the last bucket of funding, the 20% of Mejero goes to violence prevention programs. And that provides funding for the Center for Violence Prevention Partnership, which is a collaborative effort of over 50 organizations that are focused on strengthening youth and families and creating safe and resilient neighborhoods. And so really this is about preventing the violence, right? So that historically, when Mejero was passed, the city of Santa Rosa had experienced gang violence, a lot of gang violence. There was the infamous single-demio violence that occurred. And so the community came together and really wanted to include violence prevention funding as part of any sales tax to support this effort. And what is unique about the city of Santa Rosa is we're one of the only jurisdictions in the entire Bay Area that has dedicated funding from a tax for violence prevention. And so this goes to fund four staff members within the violence prevention team under the Office of Community Engagement. And in addition, that funding provides programming through our Choice Grant Program that the city council actually just two weeks ago approved the latest round of Choice Grant funding where eight different nonprofits received funding for the next fiscal year, which goes to supporting youth and families from mental health services to childcare services to food. And so just a wide variety of important, important programs that our CBO partners are working through the Choice Grant Program. But what else is included in that is our Neighborhood Services, which is under our recreation division. And so they receive about $900,000 a year give or take from measure O funding. And that's really for youth and programs from after school to sporting to other types of violence prevention that's within our recreation team. And so one key example during the pandemic when schools were closed, the recreation division through Neighborhood Services set up at the Finley Center a remote learning for 100 kids where they could go to Finley and have internet access, have a computer and work virtually in a safe space. And so that was a targeted program where they looked at specific children that needed extra assistance, that needed more stability and needed access to technology. And so that was just one example where the Neighborhood Services team was able to pivot and be flexible because of measure O, because of those dollars. And so just a really important example there of what was happening there at Neighborhood Services. So unfortunately, McGaulay, Tana, Sir Jeff Tibbets they couldn't be here tonight. They usually are the ones handling this slide but certainly we can answer any questions that come up on violence prevention. So that is that. And so what we talk about in terms of potential cuts if measure O were to go away. So again, it's approximately $10 million a year. Now that number fluctuates. In fact, last night, the city council just approved next year's fiscal budget and there was almost $12 million of measure O funding for this coming fiscal year. So even during a pandemic and our economic times measure O sales tax has actually increased. So that the slide is actually now outdated because now it was $12 million for this upcoming fiscal year. So again, as the chiefs mentioned, if measure O funding were to go away we could see reductions in staff resources, staff positions, programs. The fire stations can be impacted and emergency response times can be impacted as well if measure O funding were to expire. Next slide please. So again, really to summarize, that measure O funding helps us improve our wildfire prevention, our emergency preparedness, evacuation planning, maintaining our rapid 911 emergency response, providing those key programs for youth and families and violence prevention efforts with our partners in the community-based organizations. And again, it'll help prevent reductions in staff, including those paramedics, firefighters and police officers. Next slide. And so one of the key aspects for accountability for any dedicated sales tax that a local government considers includes a citizens oversight committee, which we currently have with measure O. The measure O oversight committee meets quarterly. They produce an annual report. They look at what funding is going through measure O sales tax dollars, what those departments are proposing to spend, how they're spending it to ensure compliance with measure O. And all money raised by this dedicated sales tax currently with measure O, it cannot be taken from any other city department. It can't be taken from Sacramento and it can't be used for any sort of city administrator salaries as well. And just with any type of sales tax like this, essential purchases like groceries or prescription drugs are exempt from the sales tax. So anyway, that's some of the accountability measures that are currently within measure O and with any future sales tax, the council would certainly consider similar provisions as well. So with that, that's the end of our brief presentation. We're happy to answer any questions. And again, the council is gonna be considering this on July 12th. And so all options are on the table. When measure O was passed, there was no in response team, right? And so we're certainly thinking about how future measure O funding could go to other type of programs. So that's just one example. And so, again, we're here to listen to you all and answer any questions you may have. Thank you, Scott. I appreciate this, yes, round of applause, definitely. This presentation, thank you, Chief Westrup and Chief Praveen as well for your presentations this evening. And I know that you've been out there hitting the streets and getting this information to a wide swath of the community. So I'm gonna hand it over now. I'll call on CAB members for any questions that you may have. And I have advice. I'm gonna go with member Stephanie. Thank you, Chair Graves. And thank you so much, Craig, and the Chiefs for that great information. I don't know if I have a question. It's more of a thought because I know if this is gonna be on the ballot in November, we all know we're dealing with inflation and a lot of people I know are just like one more thing. Don't ask me for any more money right now. So if that's the case and it will be on the ballot in November, I would just strongly encourage you tell stories that include numbers because when I looked at this presentation, I think it was a month ago. I didn't see any quantifying factors and what the Chiefs shared with us were like really nailed me. Like, okay, we'll go back to staffing levels of 2009. Those of us who are afraid of wildfires, that's like, no, there's no way we can do that. So I just would hope you'll tell stories. Whoever works on any of the marketing or outreach about measure O, tell stories that include numbers and people can resonate with and then they're not gonna be so freaked out about the fact that a gallon of milk costs more. So it's really not a question. It's just thank you for what you've done. And I would really encourage that you think about where people are financially when the messages go out and really hit them hard that this is your safety. This is your children's safety. So that's my only comment and thank you so much. Thank you, members, Becky. And I just want for education purposes for us all, maybe a couple of words from Danielle or Scott who would be appropriate right now to have this information come from around the actual putting it on the ballot and a campaign effort from what I remember that can't come from, internals that can't come from staff, that that would have to be an outside agency or a political action committee of some sort. Could you clarify that for us and give us any education around that that you could? Sure, thank you for those comments and questions. So yes, the city council is allowed to engage in public education. And so that's what staff, we are allowed to do that. We cannot advocate for anything and or push for any sort of provisions of what we want. So that's why we're trying to hear from folks what they're thinking about and what their priorities are. So as part of that, we've engaged with a consultant. We've sent out mail pieces you may have seen in your mailbox. We have a website dedicated to measure O. We actually have an online survey through Let's Connect that you had mentioned earlier for one of your other agenda items. So we're trying to gather feedback through Let's Connect. We've done some surveys as well in these community meetings and council town halls. We actually have a town hall next week on June 29th if you're able to attend on Zoom. And so that information's on our website, which is srcity.org slash measure O. And so you can attend that way. So the city council can put it on the ballot. They need four votes. So they'll do that on July, they'll consider that I should say on July 12th. And so they're legally allowed to do that. They can place any ballot measure like this on there and they could do it for November. So part of what to a board member, Stephie's comments. So what the staff recommendation is is a renewal measure that would be the same sales tax rate. So it's the same rate that folks are paying now that would that that's the staff recommendation for the council to consider that if there were a war to be a new measure it would be the same amounts that folks are paying today. Thank you for that clarification and education. I know that I've heard that somewhat before but it's good to have it all in one spot for all of us. Vice member or vice chair weeks. Thank you. And thank you, Mr. Alonzo, Chief Creve and Chief Westbro for being I really appreciate it. I have many questions and some comments. I would also actually like to echo member Stephie's concern around the timing of all of us with kind of so many compounding issues. I have serious concerns about whether this could feasibly be passed amid rising costs on so many fronts. So I for one would love to volunteer for the campaign to ensure its success because cards on the table I'm a huge supporter of measure O. I guess my first question is for Chief Westbro. And actually this might also apply to Chief Cregan with the annexation of Moreland kind of front of mind and really picking up pace. I'm assuming your strategic placement is taking into consideration that community once it is presumably annexed in the next few years. So I was wondering if you guys could comment on that briefly. Yeah, so the short answer is yes, it is. The current strategic plan didn't consider the Moreland annexation because it really wasn't part of the conversation at the time but what it shows is that, you know, where I'm at a station 10, where station two is out on Stony Point where station eight is currently out on Burbank they're two boats together. So we're actually moving that prior station farther south to the area of Kern and Dutton. So it actually serves the Moreland area much better as it stands right now and certainly when it's annexed. So actually it was a, you know, not a flu but it was just a good thing that happened. And so where that station's landing actually will play right into that and we will have the enhanced service to the Moreland area when the annexation is complete. Yeah, I think for the police department even it amplifies the need for that rose and substation to have more of a presence on the southwest side of Santa Rosa and it's been many community meetings I've heard from Rosa in that area and that gives us quicker access of going to calls for service in Moreland and certainly we have that on our like future horizon of that being part of our jurisdiction and we're going to be prepared to serve that community. And then a follow on question then I'm assuming I don't think the police are, I don't recall if this was mentioned or getting rid of any of their substations but Chief Rostrop you said you're moving stations. So are we going to presumably sell those stations or they can remain public property? Do we have any sense of what's going to happen? Is the funding or the money from that property can be reinvested into the new station or is there a separate dedicated fund? It's a great question. I don't have any answer to it quite honestly. I've been asking the same question. And so for instance, if you look at station eight because that's where that's one of the stations we needed to move. So moving station eight South will have the Burbank property available to us. So whether it's going to be used for another public resource whether it's going to be sold whether it's going to be revitalized or utilized we're not that far in the conversation yet. So I don't have a clear cut answer for you but we are aware of a lot of the community desires in that area. And the same will be said when we move station six on Calistoga Road that will open up 205 Calistoga Road and while fire station somewhere else. So what do we do with that property for the best use of the community? So there are public assets we own the property we own the building. So we'll have to make a solid community-based decision on what we're going to do with those properties in the future. And then I also have, you know obviously it's always fun to mine the concerns around the risk of wildfire. And I know you mentioned Chief Westrope that funding is always lean and we have to, you know, work with what we've got is there a, is there an additional tax that will be proposed or considered to help further bolster, you know, our fire services? Not at the moment. We've been working on, if you recall in 2019 measure G was placed on the ballot it was a countywide, half-cent sales tax measure that was supposed to bolster fire services throughout the county and it didn't pass by, I wanna say like 0.87% or something like that. It was a very narrow margin. So we've been working on reformatting that and looking at that, every Thursday I meet with other local fire chiefs. We have what's called the fire service working group to renew that tax and put it on the ballot. So we're working on a lot of the same polling information as the city is working on at the county level this is under the fire ad hoc of the board of supervisors. So we are working on that. It's just a matter of timing and it did not pull very well just before we did measure O measure it pulled much better, but it didn't pull very well. So we're kind of starting from scratch again but there is the desire from the fire service community to put on a quarter or half-cent sales tax measure for the entirety of the county. And so it adds fire stations throughout the community it adds firefighters throughout the community it adds resources and vegetation management because the way I look at it and the way I've been saying it for years is it's like the chain of survival in CPR there's the chain of a wildland fire and we have to break every one of those chains to make a difference. We don't start fires in Santa Rosa we end fires in Santa Rosa. So it takes the state, the county mutual threat zone and everything in between to do that and also to build those resources in. So Knights Valley for it is an example it's a volunteer fire department with a few people there that's where a lot of fires start and they come over the hills. So we could put a fire station out there and fires are stopped when they're small they're not going to come to our community or if another fire department, you know, Sebastopol for an example, they become advanced life support and have full-time staffing. Our resources don't get pulled out to provide that level of service out there. So building the entire system stronger is our focus and it's something that we still work on on a weekly basis and we're trying to get something out there that there's nothing slated at this moment. So my final question for right now that I have for you, Mr. Alonzo mentioned the possibility of funding from measure on the future being utilized to help support in response which you know, through a leadership program and then I was told, I mean, it's been an incredible success so far and I'd very much like to see it continue even past, you know, the sunset of like, what is it, three years, I believe it is. So is this going to potentially be one of the more foundational or core funding streams in the future that will support in response or are we going to, presumably, I'm actually guessing pull from multiple sources? I'd just like to hear a little bit more about that or anything you have for us right now. Yeah, I think we can dive into that. So right now in response is not funded by Mejero and the city council is still looking at their priorities. Right now we have funding for about the next two and a half to three years depending upon how quickly we get to the full 24 seven response. And we're using, we have $3.9 million of ARPA funds from the American Rescue Plan Act. We got $1.1 million from a federal earmark that we received and Scott was instrumental in being able to get us that funding. We have $400,000 from Providence, St. Joseph's provided to the team, 96,000 we got from the county's Mejero and another 495,000 from a state grant. So we really have like, and the city originally started this with $1.1 million from the city's general fund. So we have all this pot of different fundings that we're doing right now. And we have this pot to be able to pay for it for the next two and a half years as we work to expand the team. And then that's where we're gonna have to do. So whether it's part of the new Mejero or no matter what, the Mejero allows this team to be sustainable because it's not taking, as Scott mentioned, we have $12 million that add it to our general fund this year from Mejero. So it allows in response to be sustainable for the years to come by the existence of Mejero itself, whether it's specifically built into the ordinance or not. So it's a key part for me and Chief Wester open myself we're both two of the kind of co-creators of our in response team with a lot of other city stakeholders. So it's really important for both the police department and the fire department and for our community at large to be able to see in response sustainable for the decades to come. And I feel very confident that whether directly or indirectly passing Mejero and continuing it forward is gonna be as gonna be a key part of keeping Mejero here for all of us and for our kids. And apologies chair grades. I have one more following question. So what can we do to help? Like, as a community advisory board, we're to some extent all of us are involved in our community, whether it be just our individual neighborhood or the entire community itself. What do you see us doing in terms of helping you? Is it just, you know, broadcasting this information sharing it with our various neighborhood associations with our friends via next door maybe can you elaborate a little more on that? Thank you, vice chair. So really what we need from groups like you all is to really one, communicate with your council members, to encourage folks to come to the July 12th meeting either submit testimony in advance of the meeting or during the meeting. And then, you know, for, you know, if folks want to come to the June 29th zoom town hall we have three council members, McDonald's, Shwed Hellman Sawyer who will be co-hosting. And again, it's the similar information we're presenting to you all tonight but it's a chance for them to hear from folks directly and that's what's so powerful. So you all are connected, you're tied in, you're active. So, you know, we really just want folks to be aware of what's going on. There's no surprises that the council is going to be considering this. And it potentially, you know, there's some big questions they have to settle, right? One, does it go on the ballot? Two, what are the allocations for the funding, right? We talked about what the current allocations are. And then three, what's the size of the tax? And then four, how long does the tax stay around for? Right now, it's a 20 year tax. It expires in 2025, but the council has discretion on what a future measure would entail for in terms of what we call a sunset provision of when the tax would expire. So those are kind of the four big questions. Again, staff is not necessarily advocating for any specifics in terms of the political side of it. Our recommendation to council is really the, essentially status quo, right? That it would be a straight renewal with the allocations currently at the same rate. So that's our recommendation, certainly the council will make the final policy decision on July 12th. Thanks so much. I'll reserve the rest of my questions and let other folks go now back to you, Chair Grace. No apologies needed, Vice Chair, weeks, but do remember that there is a meeting on June 29th. And so you're welcome on that as well. If you think of more questions between now and then. So that's just next Wednesday. Member Harrell, I see that you are unmuted. I wondered if you had questions or comments. I wanted to comment. I think you're right. The timing is unfortunate because of inflation, but still I think you have a great case to present. And I think it's really important to say the wonderful issues that you're covering, like support, family support, violence prevention, the training of kids at remote learning that need technology. So I think also I'm pressing that groceries and meds are not taxed. So it's not a burden to, it won't keep people from eating. I think that's a really important thing. And when you talk about education, so can you give talks as an education? I mean, it's when the fire chief shows up at Oakmont, everybody stands up and salutes. They're so excited to see either Paul or Scott come in and say our heroes are here to tell us, educate us more. So is it possible that you can give this presentation to large community groups as an educational thing without it considering to be political? Yes, remember, Harold, yes we can. We presented to the Valley of the Moon Oakmont Rotary Club a couple of weeks ago. And we're actually trying to get to the Oakmont Village Association this coming Tuesday afternoon. So that's, we're still working on some of the details there, but we're hoping to come in person for that this coming Tuesday. That's tentative. So I don't wanna promise that yet, but yes, we've been meeting with groups large and small, either virtually or in person, we're happy to do so. So yes, you can reach out to Danielle. We're happy to work with Danielle to make that happen if folks want us to come present to their board of directors or their membership or neighborhood association. Yeah, just as Scott was saying, we've also been trying to reach out to different neighborhood associations and haven't had very much success in getting any interest, which has been very interesting. I know people are busy, but it's important information. So if you weren't neighborhood association or a group that you know of would like this presentation, please let me know. Okay. Well, it's great that you're reaching out to Oakmont because I think that they do have educational workshops and they really need to hear this and they'll be very supportive. Thank you, member Harrell. And do I see any other questions from members? I don't see any other questions. I know I had a couple of questions, but they were answered. I just let you know, you talked about the in response and the grants and I just wanna follow that up kind of in a more broad question. If I can to, you know what? I'll go backwards a little bit. From what I recall about this potentially going to the ballot in November is that, then that also allows time that if it didn't pass that it could potentially go to the ballot later on. Is my correct? Yes. Thank you. And obviously we wouldn't want that to happen. We just wanna push it through. This is really important. Also, you talked about that there's decisions to be made on July 7th, whether it goes to the ballot, what the allocations may be, the tax amount and the duration. I'd be interested in hearing if you've had any feedback around that that is different than what the status quo is right now. Yes, we've received a mixed bag essentially, you know, some community groups and folks we've met with wanna see the allocation change. They wanna see it be the same equitable between all the departments that are receiving the funding. So essentially the violence prevention partnership and neighborhood services would receive the same amounts that the fire department and police department are receiving. So we've heard that feedback. We've also heard the opposite, right? That folks wanna see the same or essentially status quo for what it's funded. So I think the good news is almost every single group we've talked with are supportive overall of what the city is doing with measure of dollars. It's really the nitty gritty on, you know, do we update it and how do we update it and what do folks wanna see? So we've certainly heard a lot of feedback, you know, for including mental health type response either through fire or police with like in response, right? That measure could help fund that. And so that certainly has come up repeatedly. We've also, you know, what the challenge is and I didn't, I apologize for not saying this more explicitly but the way measure is crafted is that literally by law there are certain things measure of dollars can go to based on what the ballot measure says. And again, that was passed, you know, 2004. So times have changed. So, you know, there's specific items in the expenditure plan that are called out and even neighborhoods that are called out within the measure, oh, expenditure plan. So as Chief Triggan mentioned, there are specific neighborhoods where they can direct police services to. And so that certainly is, you know, we've heard from folks in Roseland that would like to be included in that as a specific call out. And as Chief Triggan mentioned, they wanna build a substation there. So, you know, could measure of dollars go to that, right? That's certainly on the table. So those are some of the key things that we've heard from folks. Thank you. And that's a great segue. My next point, comment slash question, would the wording of a ballot measure allow for some flexibility if this is going to have a duration of another 20 years for the tax measure? Seeing that I know in this past few years, maybe since 2017-19 through the summer of 2020, there were quite a few comments from the public around what the measure O funds were being used for. Glad to have the measure O funds there, but maybe wanting them to be redirected a little bit, but there's no flexibility within that ballot measure as it was written. Is that possible? And I'm leaning on you a little bit. Sorry for my, you're saying Scott earlier, Mr. Alonzo. I feel like I know you a tiny, tiny bit. So I'm leaning on your knowledge a little bit there for this answer. I understand that is something that is unknown at this time. Yeah, that's really a policy question that is hard to answer. I think the council has discretion to be as specific as they wanna be or as broad as they wanna be. I think a good example of that is the funding for violence prevention. It's actually pretty broad in the ordinance, which gives, that's the staff of flexibility there for VPP and neighborhood services. On the flip side, the language on the fire department says you can hire firefighters and paramedics and build fire stations and buy equipment. So that's pretty specific. So there's no right or wrong there. It's really what the mood of the council will be. But ultimately to your bigger question, it is locked in. There is no flexibility once it's passed essentially. So that's why there's a provision under measure O right now under the police department for school resource services. That's the language in the ballot measure. So for SROs within the school districts. So currently that's there, right? And that's a decision that council made back then 2004. Does that mean it's gonna be the same decision now? That's certainly on the table if the council wants to continue that. Thank you. That's a really hard question to answer. But I wanna put in a little bit of a nod for the potential to maybe not have it be as long of a duration of 20 years. I know that that is a scary thing to say out loud. But being at times do change rather quickly and our needs change quickly that the duration maybe be cut in half. So that 10 years down the line which I know would then create another need for a vote in going to the public which is extremely hard with two thirds vote needed to pass it. But how do we gain any type of flexibility with this type of a tax measure? I just can't see that in 2045 but times would be similar at all. Who knows what would be developed by then? And our needs may be greater, they may be less. I can't imagine them decreasing. I can only imagine them increasing. So it's a tough one to say out loud but I do need to say that. And I also think that potentially some training I know I sat through the community experience that Chief Cragen and his team put on recently and the amount of training that is needed for both the fire department that we just got that information tonight and for the police department which I've heard in detail is needed and potentially that's another place to put some funds. And with that training I would hope that maybe we do some outsourcing to get a more or increase our diversity of staff within both those departments as well. So that is my two, three and four cents on that one. So thank you so much for allowing the time for all of us to contribute. And once again, thank you for the presentation. I do want to ask you just to stay for just a moment potentially while I pass it over to public comments. Yep, of course. There are currently no hands raised for public comment. Great, thank you. And that would conclude the presentation. I look forward, I hope I can make it to next week on the 29th, I certainly will be broadcasting that within my groups and on social media. I appreciate your time and energy to go out to additional groups and have that. And that will be recorded one last question on the 29th so that that will be available after the 29th meeting up to July 7th. Yes, so the Zoom meeting will be recorded and also will have Spanish translation available as well for a separate Zoom channel for live, ongoing interpretation in Spanish. And so that, and then the council meeting is July 12th. So just that Tuesday. Yeah, thank you for correcting that. And thanks for forecasting ahead with that question about the Spanish translation, I appreciate it. So thank you once again to Chief Reagan and Chief Westrop as well. Thanks everyone. And that concludes our agenda item. Oh, you know what? I'm not in charge. Vice chair weeks. You just let me slide right in there. Did I do that? I figured I'd just let you run with it. You were so good at that. I owe you one. Oh my goodness. Totally fine. It's like stepping on your dancing shoes or something. My goodness. Okay, I'm gonna be quiet now. I guess it's a good thing I can't dance. We do have another, remember that we need to go back to staff updates. Would you like to just handle that? Because obviously I need to just be quiet. Danielle, feel free to take the floor. Great. All right, I've got a couple of staff updates for you this evening. First one being is our office of community engagement staffing update. We are currently down two permanent positions and one VISTA member position. So we have the Violence Prevention Program Manager position, which has been open for the last year. And the administrative analyst for the partnership as well. Both of those are vacant. And we're hoping to begin recruitment for those sometime this summer to fill those because it's a giant hole for our team. The admin analyst family is the choice grant program, which is a significant part of Violence Prevention Partnership and funded by Measure O, as you heard in the last presentation. In addition to that, we have one VISTA member position is currently vacant. And then the other one, she's on a leap of absence right now. She will be coming back soon. So it's been really hard without our VISTAs. The good news is, is we have one VISTA candidate for the upcoming academic year. We were hoping to have more than that, but unfortunately we're just not getting the interest this year in the VISTA program. We're also in the process of recruiting and interviewing for two student intern positions. That hasn't been posted yet on the website, but it will once those get approved by human resources. Moving along, we'll probably have more on the staffing shortage for our department next month. More updates for that. Moving on to outreach and engagement. We have been incredibly busy here, doing community engagement out, actually in person this year for the first time since March of 2020. From March of this year to early this month, we've engaged in over 3,500 people here in Santa Rosa and Sonoma County. And we have done that through participating in 12 large community events. I won't name them all, but that includes the Wildfire Ready event that we hosted. We also participated in Sonoma County Pride and Peggy Sioux Car Show and Cruise and most recently the Juneteenth Festival at MLK Park. We also participate in community partner events. So those are things like Rosemount University Preps Cultural Heritage Day, Wellness Fair at LC M1 High School, partnering with Sonoma State for one of their educational summits, so on and so forth. I won't list them all out. If you'd like a list of these, I'm more than happy to email it to the group. We've also had seven Town Hall meetings for measure O as well as a couple other smaller group presentations. And then in addition to that through the Violence Prevention Partnership, we began a pilot program called the School Outreach Program. And we partnered with Santa Rosa Middle School to provide a group of identified youth, so both the administration and the restorative resource specialists at the school helped to identify these youth. And we provided life skills classes. So anger management sessions, conflict resolution sessions, also did a little bit of career exploration and academic exploration as well. We had a couple of city departments participate and come in and talk about the different job opportunities we have here at the city. And then we added in a component about low writing. Low writing is a form of violence prevention and healing and we incorporated the Mary Lou into those sessions. So we held 14 sessions at Santa Rosa Middle School and we're hoping to expand that to additional middle schools in the fall. And then finally, we've done a lot of crisis response in the community responding to gun violence that has been happening as well as a sideshow activity along with the police department. So really going where our community partners need us and providing gang incident de-escalation and mediation and community outreach and follow-up in some of the neighborhoods where we've had shootings occur. We have a lot on our plate coming up. So we will be in August, we're actually taking the month of July off and we'll be back in August for national night out. We'll also be having a police auditor community engagement series with the OIR group who is the police auditor for the city. So we'll have more information about that but those will are tentatively taking place August 4th through 6th. We have a multicultural project exhibit at the Finley Center that will be opening up in August and a reception on August 11th, a Rosalind Disaster Preparedness event on the 18th. And then something that I'll talk about in just a little bit is we're hosting a take back the neighborhood event collaborating with the residents in Apple Valley and Valley Oak neighborhoods through the partnership. We're also participating in the Fiesta de Independencia in September and the South Park Day night festival also in September. And finally, this I don't have a lot of information on unfortunately Magali couldn't join us this evening so she can talk about this more next month but we are in early planning stages with the police department and several other community partners to put together a gun buy back program for the month of August. That'll be happening tentatively at the end of August it'll be a one day event. So again, more information to come on that once we have more hopefully I can bring that or Magali can bring that back next month. And then the Herron Community Hub project that will be kicking off here very soon. The council did approve our contract with a consultant Ross, a jewelist in Pusenberry architecture firm. They have a lot of experience in community engagement and participatory design process. So that like I said, the council just approved their contracts. So we've got to get that finalized with them and then they can start the work starting July 1st. We do have that interactive website on Let's Connect SR. As CAB members, all of you are signed up to receive information. You are not required to participate but I thought it would be really helpful if you did receive the information that way. If you have community members asking you about what's going on, you have all of the information that you need for that. So you will be receiving updates as we go through that process and you're more than welcome to participate in the community workshops and meetings. So more information to come on when those will be here once we get started with our consultant. And then finally circling back to that take back the neighborhood event in Apple Valley and Valley Oak. We're looking to hold a community cleanup event, bringing those two neighborhoods together on August 20th. It'll be a half day event starting in the morning where we do a full neighborhood cleanup and graffiti abatement with residents in that area. And then we'll finish off with a little celebration afterward with food and a time for discussion, bringing in our police department and other city departments that will participate as well as our violence prevention partnership partners. So if anyone is interested in participating in that event, CAB participation is more than welcome. So please reach out to me and or Danny if you are interested in that. And I am done. I'll turn it back over to you. Thank you so much, Danielle. That was really informative. And anything, yeah, you need from us, please let me know. I would love to volunteer and help out because you well know. I used to go to a lot of these events back in the day and I'm always happy to picture when needed. With that, do we open it up for public comment on this or is it just staff updates kind of just delivery? Yes, staff updates, questions from the CAB and then public comment. Of course, does anyone have any questions? Chair Graves, go right ahead. Thank you. And Danielle, that is just a bevy of events and programs that you all have been doing. And I'm glad that you get to step back from it just a little bit and have a little time to regroup especially since you're down with a couple people or three people at this point. My question, you talked about the take back the neighborhood, the Apple Valley and the Valley Oak area. Did you have a date with that? That's... Yes, Saturday, August 20th. 28th, okay, sorry. 28th, two zero. Okay. So with that, you talked about CAB members being welcome to be there. It sounded like a lot of those events, if there were potential interests from CAB members, how, I don't wanna overwhelm all the CAB members with laundry list of things that are important and potential for them to participate in. But I'm just thinking that, there might be a CAB member here or there that sees something on a list like that and says, can I accompany you? Can I be there? That's something that is of interest to me. It's in my district that I was appointed to and whatnot. How best to communicate that? But sometimes we get this list of everything that you have participated in very graciously and put a lot of energy in, but it's after the fact. So, and I don't wanna make more work for you, but at the same time, I wanna avail the opportunity and I want to avail the opportunity in an equitable way to every CAB member. And unfortunately, the only way to do that is probably an email from you. Yeah. So what I can do is send out the upcoming events and those dates and times to the entire board. And if there is interest, just let me know. I have had members sign up in the other list that I sent out and I get it, everyone's busy, but we haven't had any, like not any, but we haven't had a lot of participation this year at community events, unfortunately, and also not follow through. So I really just, if you do sign up or you do indicate that you wanna be there, please just, if you can't make it, just let me know so that I'm not left wondering where you are. Or if I need to schedule, I don't know, schedule like an initial staff member because then you're not going to be there, that'd be great. And that's great information for all of us to know, but I also want everybody to know how to contact you because some of these events are on a Saturday. I know that I have the privilege to have your cell phone number on hand programmed into my phone because I didn't have a family emergency, actually, someone passed away very close to us. My husband's dad on Saturday morning, very unfortunate over Father's Day weekend. But my first priority was family as everybody would imagine. So with that, some things are unavoidable and I was able to text you and I appreciate your return text letting me know that it will be fine. But that might be good because we have a lot of new members and not everybody knows right off hands, is it okay to text you? Oh yeah, absolutely. So on my email signature is my work cell phone and I will make sure, so when I do send out the actual list, probably tomorrow or next week, that I'll include it and make sure it's highlighted so that you know that that is my cell phone number. But yes, please feel free to text or call if you're signed up for an event and something comes up. I know, for example, Member Steffi got sick for one event and wasn't able to make it and that's totally understandable. So I just don't want to have to worry about you guys I'm wondering who's going to show up, so yeah. Yeah, and I appreciate it also reiterating that in an email potentially as well because I know that not everybody is here and it's unfortunate that we have to communicate that way. But the next item will be coming up. Thank you Vice Chair Weeks for the time. Do we have any other questions from the board? Okay, seeing no bunch of head nods. Yeah, I would like to add to what Chair Graves said if you could resend like the current event list that you have, I think we discussed this previously and I never found it in my email. I would be happy to look at it and sign up. And are there like Google invitations that are embedded like links that we can just click on and then it'll immediately download or kind of embed into our calendar? If not, I can totally do it myself. I don't know, but it's very convenient. No problem. Yeah, if you could just resend those lists, it would be terrific. I would really appreciate it. And then I will, I'll take a pass at it and make sure I get that on my calendar so that I carve out some time to help support some of our community engagement. Happy to do so. Sure, what I can do is, if you do sign up for an event and we have it on our Outlook calendars, we'll forward it to you. Oh, terrific. That sounds great. Love it. With that, seeing no one else raise in their hand, I'd like to open up to public comment. There are no hands raised for public comment. Okay. And with that, we will close out item five, staff updates, and we will transition to item 6.2, which is the discussion of our holiday meeting schedule and in-person meetings. This is a very important conversation. I'm personally very excited about this. I assume, Danielle, you'll be leading this for us. Yes. So, first of all, with the holiday schedule, as many of you know, and for those of you who are new, December, November, and December, the cab meetings, so all cab meetings are held on the fourth Wednesday of every month. In those particular months, though, they fall so closely to Thanksgiving and the Christmas and year's holidays that we try to move them around and or they get canceled. So we would like to put this out as a discussion, our decision for the cab. What would you like to do during those two months? We can definitely find a new date or we can go ahead and cancel. I would, as a staff person, responsible for coordinating your meetings, I would really like you to consider just having one meeting rather than cancel both, but it's completely up to you. So I will turn it back over to you to make that decision. Are we also going to discuss the in-person component as well or do you want to kind of break that up? Let's break it up. Let's do the holiday discussion first. All right, it appears member Lange, would you like to say something? Sure, I propose we meet once just so that there's not too much time lapse between the two and I'm open to in-person, but perhaps maybe having, if there's the hybrid option just for folks, because we don't know what will happen between now and then and just so that folks can make the best decision to attend that makes them feel as safe and comfortable as possible. That's my preposition. All right, thank you very much, member Lange. Member Rodriguez. Yeah, I would just ask if we could do the in-person versus Zoom that might help sort of dictate when we reschedule holiday meetings for. I mean, especially if we're moving the calendar around, I know for me, school schedules and family schedules that would be really helpful to know that I could be available. That's an excellent point. Member Sefi. Yes, I was just going to maybe propose that maybe we have the one meeting in November and we move it up a week to maybe the third Thursday in November and not meet in December. It's kind of similar to what Danielle said, but a little more specific. That would be my suggestion. Member Howe. Another option might be, I agree with the one, if earlier one week in November is too soon to the prior meeting, perhaps we could do the first week of December. It's return from, you know, return from Thanksgiving, but Christmas hasn't really engaged yet and people are still kind of around. That's just another option. But the in-person thing, I got COVID on Saturday, so I can do in-person, but I'll certainly be wearing a mask. So you won't recognize me, except with the white hair. All right, thank you. Would any of the members like to comment on this? Member Barnett. I would just say historically, when we did this combined meeting, it was a potluck. Saying, and of course, I'm making this, you know, making this nudge in that direction as I'm getting over COVID. I might be completely naive in my assessment here, but that is a thought of, you know, and there's always the possibility of like, well, could we meet in areas like an open corridor? But that would be my other recommendation. And I think, I remember his, like, I think what we did was the, we moved it up a week in December. I think the last time we did this in the long, long ago, way, way back for that exact reason of the October meeting happening and of October and then it was like, and I were meeting again. And so I think that was the compromise that we did. It was a 2019, maybe. So, but I must get my two cents in of potluck, I'll bring meatballs. That sounds wonderful. Chair Graves. I remember that meeting in 2019, that was my first meeting I sworn in that December meeting and I brought sliders. So, you know, if you wonder how I got to be chair, that might be part of it. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. No. Anyway, I do realize, I want to acknowledge that we were going to separate out the November, December from the in-person discussion. I will say that I agree with everybody about just holding it once in November, December. I love the potluck idea. I think that we should have a potluck our first time that we're anywhere close to each other coming up. So if we are able to meet in-person or a hybrid, even this summer, I vote for a potluck more than once. And I would vote for hybrid because I do think that it just avails itself to be more accessible to those folks who may have something else going on in their life as I certainly did over the past year and a half or so. And yes, I just got over COVID 10 days ago. I was cleared last week, this past week I went back to work after being off for like 13 days or something. So it's happening to all of us. I only say that so that we can all recognize that it's definitely making the rounds. So be careful and wear your masks out there, folks. Those would be my two, my two votes. Okay, would any other members like to comment? Okay, well, I guess now is my time. So anyone that knows me knows I'm a very sociable person and so I'm strongly, strongly in favor of us coming back together and as a hybrid option, of course, I think we should offer that. In fact, one of the things that's frustrated me the most is the fact that so many of our jurisdictions in Sonoma County have removed the hybrid option, the Zoom option altogether, which brings I think forward a question of accessibility, especially when COVID is still very much among us, the fact that three of our members are either currently sick or have been recently sick, I think indicates that it was a bit too soon for these jurisdictions to make that move. So it's very unfortunate. So I would support a hybrid option. I would just ask, Daniel, that's not gonna be too much of a burden on you, correct? Okay. No, the city has it all set up towards the hybrid. That's what I thought, I just wanted to check. Excellent, that sounds great to me. Strongly in favor of the potluck, I do remember that. It's a ton of fun. So I would love to do that. And I think the first week of December is definitely best. It's my recollection. That's what we did previously as well and it spaces it out a little bit more. And while we might be in a little bit of a coma, from all that Turkey, I think it might be the more appropriate week to hold our meeting during those two months. And with that, I think that's all I have to say. If anyone else has any final comments, now is the time. Okay, seeing none, we'll open up to public comment. There are no hands raised for public comment. All right, excellent. Well, that closes out item 6.2. And with that, we'll begin at 6.3 and I'll hand it back to Chair Graves. I would do wanna ask, Daniel, did we need to make a motion or make any decisions? Cause I don't know that we made a consensus there as a decision. No, but since we have so many people absent today, what I'm gonna do is send out a doodle. A, I need to check also the availability of our facilities just to make sure that I can find a date that works to hold that one meeting either in November or right before Thanksgiving or after Thanksgiving in December. So I need to check on availability. And then once I have that, then I can pull the cab and see which one works for the majority so that we do have a quorum. The other thing I do wanna throw in there about the hybrid meetings is, I know, actually I think it's, well, no, Chair Graves, you were there too, but Member Burnett and Vice Chair Weeks, you recall that we used to meet in the old chamber building across the street from City Hall. We will not be meeting there. When we get back together in person, we will have to meet at the city's utility fields office or UFO, which is off of Stony Point Road. It, oh, sorry. Malone was just telling me when they have availability. It's set up for the broadcast and the hybrid capabilities. And it's also large enough to where we can safely meet and spread out. And members of the public that wanna come in can also safely meet and spread out as well. So with that, I realize Vice Chair Weeks, you've closed out that item, but I just want some clarity around, are we talking about our next meeting in July? And we didn't really clarify that within that topic. Yeah, I really jumped the gun there and probably should have raked. It's my first time in my defense. I think I get a pass, but those are all pertinent questions. Danielle, should we open the item back up again? Yeah, we can open the item back up again. Okay, well then let's proceed with reopening item 6.2 a holiday meeting schedule and in-person meetings. I guess Chair Graves actually raised a lot of really good questions that in my haste, I did not take into consideration. I guess I was proposing without really articulating it that we transition to a hybrid option next month. So starting in July. And then of course, I think we can play it by year and kind of see what happens. If things worsen, we'll take that into consideration if they get better than who knows, maybe we can, most of us will be back in person and we can still have the virtual option available. And then in terms of location, I don't imagine for most of us that'll be an issue. I mean, it's a little bit farther. I believe that, actually I can't remember which district that is, I'll tell my head. It's across the street from Finley. Yeah, of course, yeah. Yeah, I think that would be a fine location and it is very airy, so very appropriate given the ongoing pandemic that we're currently living and operating in. So with all this new information available, does anyone have like additional comments, any additional feedback input, et cetera that you'd like to provide? Can I get a show of hands to see who would come in person next month in two, three? That concerns me a little bit. I bet it's just two of you. Wait, I guess. Sorry, Danny, you're a staff. Remember, Harold? I just wanted to say, I think that next month might be a little early since three of us on the screen have just had COVID and it is on the rise. Maybe we could wait a couple, a week, a next meeting and a couple of meetings to see if things have calmed down because I got this, I got the COVID at a board meeting at Fountain Grove, actually. So I know specifically, that's how I got it, so. Yeah, I was wearing a mask. I'm going to a national conference with thousands of people and I have to fly across the country. So I'm gonna be hibernating for days, just to be safe. I kind of agree with that too. My daughter currently has COVID, so she's quarantining in another area of our house and we still wear masks. She's more on it than me actually. So we try to figure out where she got it from but and she's vaccinated. So I'm able to attend because I could be home with her while she's sick. Right. Good grief, all of you, all of you folks are dropping like flies. What's going on? Where are you guys going? So let's not meet in person next month. We don't go anywhere. Good grief. What I do want to say about next month, next month is a critical meeting for this board because we have grant applications to decide on. So we absolutely need a forum next month. So if you see your fellow CAB members out there in the community, please encourage them to attend the July meeting. We have quorum tonight, but we're barely, barely hanging on. So yeah, if we're going to hold it virtual, I just please ask that we have a quorum next month so that we can make those decisions. Member Harrell. I think you might have greater attendance if you have it by some. Yeah. Yeah, of course. We actually have better attendance in person. Those are all really great points. I guess my haste to bring us back together really kind of stems from, my recollection of when we were together, there was a lot more opportunity for us to have friendly banter, both prior and after the meeting. And I think that was a really great way for us to actually establish strong relationships. Unfortunately, I could if I really wanted to and I've just been so busy. So I guess I can't say too much to this, but I would love to get together with you folks and get to know you more. I know I got to see member Rodriguez recently thanks to a leadership program I'm involved in, but I would certainly like to bring us together as soon as we can, just so we can start establishing those relationships because I think it'll really help us drive our own internal mission and get our own engine underway. Oh, Member Steffi, I see your hand raised. Yes, I'm another one who's recently gotten over COVID. So that's why I'm just, and my granddaughter, I was with her last, Father's Day and now she has it. Now my husband's already has it. Anyway, we're not done with it yet. So I'm thinking maybe in my mind, I'm thinking September maybe, and I'm always trying to be the optimist that things will be better, but yeah. So when I totally get what you're saying, Vice Chair Weeks, I agree. I've met no one on this board and I've been a member for, I don't know. Seems like forever, maybe a year or two. So I'm just gonna throw out there, maybe September to try and do this hybrid. Chair Graves. Thank you. And Member Steffi, it was pleasure meeting you in person. I actually got to meet you. And I look forward to meeting everyone else as well. I think I got to meet Member Rodriguez, I got to meet Member Lange and I look forward to meeting others on the board. But yes, this is, it seems fraught, you know, with some landlines for us to get together. But with that being said, I think that maybe having a commitment from Vice Chair Weeks and myself to be in person at a facility with staff and do a run-through in a hybrid isn't a bad option where everybody else is coming in virtually so that we work out the kinks before we try to do it a virtual where you have just one person that is dialing in over the computer. So is that something that, I know we're taking up staff time no matter what we do, but is that something that could potentially be an option and be a benefit for us to work it out that way? Yeah, I mean, let's stay virtual for the July meeting because that is a really important meeting and I want to make sure that we just hold it, we don't have any kinks that like interrupt us testing it out and then why don't we do the test run-through in August with the Chair and Vice Chair and see how that goes. That sounds great to me. I'm on board with that. I think that's an excellent idea. We'll do a little bit of a dry run. It's been a little bit, it's been a minute since we've, I think worked with some of these technologies. So yeah, it might behoove us to do a trial run. That's an excellent idea. Would anyone else like to provide input before we come to some sort of, it sounds like what I'm hearing is, so dry run August, Chair Graves and myself, September, possibly, we'll come back together, but it'll be a hybrid option. And then it sounds like first week of December, we will hold the meeting that will cover both November and December. That's what I'm hearing. And the potluck. And the potluck, yes, of course. Absolutely, we can't forget the potluck. Member Rodriguez. Put us up maybe after the hybrid testing, we revisit it and sort of pull the rest of our cab just to see what the rest of the years should look like without over committing at this point. That is absolutely fair. Okay, so that is kind of the tentative play of men. We, I believe, Danielle, you plan on sending out an email to the rest of us and then we'll potentially send some feedback or maybe not. I'm really bummed because I go back to school after August, so I won't be able to join you guys in person when you finally do get to meet, so. But you have to be there for the potluck. I will, I will, for sure. All right, so this is, it sounds like this will be a TBD year to be continued, but right now we have tentative plans, and so with that, because I think I covered everything this time, I will open it back up to public comment. There are no hands raised for public comment. All right, wonderful. Well, that was a smashing success for my first item. With that, we will proceed to item 6.3 and I will pass it back to Chair Graves. Thank you. That really is a job, I think. Navigating all of that, I appreciate it, especially navigating my snafus at the beginning. And moving on to item number 6.4, no, excuse me, 6.3, which would be the next step for implementing strategic plan and objectives for 2022. I want to point out the time is 8.06, we've been at this for over two hours, and is there any objections for taking a break? Five minutes, 10 minutes. Or maybe just tabling this until the next meeting? We can table this, and so the next meeting, that is true, and then the next ones would probably go through pretty quickly. I would still take a five minute break either way. So let's either, since we're doing a five minute break either way, and I don't see any objections to that, let's take the five minute break now and then think clearly about our next steps when we come back. It's 8.07, see you at 8.12. All right, has it been five minutes? Let's regroup. Thank you, everyone, for joining us back. I'm gonna give member Harold a moment to come back as well. We are missing someone. Member Romero? No, we're missing, I think, member Richardson. Oh, okay. She's gone, gone. Let's give it a couple minutes. Little ones at home, as we just heard. Just to be clear, so everybody knows we're lacking a quorum, so we can't get started. She's back, she just joined. Thank you. Great, thank you so much. So continuing on with our agenda items, we are on item number 6.3, the next step for implementing strategic plan objectives for 2022. Those of you that were at our last meeting in April, remember that we, skillfully, I might say, came up with our objectives, and that was sent to us by Danielle. So you have those as an attachment. At this time, this agenda item would be to take that priority list and decide on how to implement the objectives and or as well as prioritize them. They're not in necessarily an order of priority right now. There was mention before we went on break for the potential to table the item. I want to provide a moment for that to be considered before we dive in. Member Steffi. Yes, thank you. As Danielle mentioned before our break, my personal opinion is that we're all, at least I don't have air conditioning. I'm in a very small room, really hot and kind of tired and just took my five minutes to pet my dog because my husband had taken Advil. So that's my evening. So I think since the July meeting is gonna be so important because of the Cal grants, we might get more members there and therefore maybe we table this till then because it's really important. So that's just my two cents worth. Thank you Member Steffi and thank you for being, thank you everyone for being here this evening. It has been challenging in all kinds of ways. Vice Chair Leeds. I'm actually in my office because I also don't have air conditioning. So that's how I survive on hot days. It's quite lovely. I hate to say it, but I do agree with Member Steffi that the fact that we don't have more members here is concerning because this is obviously a core component of what we do as CAB and I feel like all the voices should be involved. So maybe what we should consider right now is potentially just giving everyone an FYI in advance of the July meeting. So they are prepared to be here potentially for three or four hours. And maybe we just make that a longer meeting. That way we can actually really dive deep into this and I think have a robust and substantive conversation. Ironically though, it's 2022 objectives and we'll be halfway over halfway into 2022. And now that being said, I mean, obviously it's still COVID, things happen. There's just unavoidable things that we just can't, we can't anticipate. So anyways, that's my two cents, I guess. Would anyone else like the four Member Harrell? I believe I saw your hand go up. Are you trying to unmute Member Harrell? There you go. Yeah, I think tabling is really important because this is an important topic. And next time if we're gonna have a three or four hour meeting, I'm gonna have my picnic basket right here next to me. So you won't have to watch me. Does everybody else not have dinner or do you guys have a late lunch? I don't know. I'm new, so I'm gonna get it. But I never skip a meal. You'll know that when you see me, so. Pro tip, scarf before. Granola bars help. Well, yeah, they'll get you through for a little while, but I do think it's a really important topic. And we can't, I mean, where I think people aren't expecting to be, if we're gonna have a long meeting, we need to know it to anticipate that in advance. And Member Rodriguez. Will someone help facilitate it through that? Cause tackling those three items can be very overwhelming. So there's a process or some sort of format in which we can sort of break those down and start thinking about that would be helpful instead of starting from scratch on each of those three items in, that I do also support moving it forward in July when we would have more members, but also to make sure that there's sort of a format for us to have that discussion in. Thanks. Thank you. And Vice Chair, And sorry, just to add on to what I said, I think we should definitely strongly encourage our other members to be in attendance if we do decide to kick it to July for many reasons, because we will be covering a great deal. So again, I think if we all just go into this with this on our calendar, with these plans in place and encourage everyone to be there, I think I would be perfectly happy to stay here for four hours or however long it takes to get it done. I'm used to being in long public meetings by virtue of my professional background. So again, more two cents from me. You're up to four. And I think Vice Chair Weeks and I share in a lot, including being a little verbose maybe during the meeting. I certainly wouldn't want a meeting to go four hours. I do respect all of your time, even this evening now that we're two hours and 20 minutes in, I agree and echo that we should table this. And I also want to point out that these are self-imposed priorities. So considering that as Vice Chair Weeks said, it's 2022 and then that would be July, we can also impose that we narrow the focus and we bring it down to one of the priorities and make it somewhat functional as to what we can actually get done during the rest of the year. So don't feel, I just hope and consider that no one would feel obliged to stay for four hours and make all three of these priorities just push them through no matter what, because the reality is we probably couldn't functionally get them all done. So, Member Harrell, you wanted to follow up? Yeah, I think that's a very good point that you make. And if we're trying to get people to really attend and we tell them it's gonna be a four hour meeting, that may be a not a good starter for getting them to come. And I don't think we can get all three of those things done between August and December anyway. I think that's a great idea that you have. But let's not advertise it as a four hour meeting because we're not gonna get the quorum. And the other important point to that is that we do have to approve grants in July. We will have grant applications in front of us. So it's imperative that we have a quorum and a robust quorum, not just the minimal of a quorum that would be ideal. Vice Chair Weeks of power. Yeah, cause you actually raised a really good point. And seeing as we're still on kind of, well, fingers crossed and not to jinx it, the tail end of COVID-19, I would imagine, our top priority would be to reactivate and reconvene our neighborhood groups. I mean, I reached out to the JC neighborhood folks, no response. And I believe I sent a couple emails and that might be something that I have to communicate. I believe with members, Steffi, and see what we can do to get them up and running again. Maybe they are, and I just didn't get a response. But we can discuss that offline, but I think it's really important that we get these neighborhood groups back together. I know West End is held strong, but that's because they're probably one of the more robust neighborhood groups in our community. But yeah, I think if we were to choose one, it would probably be number one, but maybe that's a discussion for later. I just wanted to kind of dovetail off your comments about maybe narrowing it down. I think that's an excellent idea given that we're so far into this year. Thank you. And I would leave that as a discussion for later so that more can participate in that discussion and that we don't sway it early on. There may be valid points for all of those priorities. So at this point, I'm hearing that maybe someone wants to make a motion to table. I had a number 6.3. Do I have any takers to make a motion? So moved. I second. Moved by chair weeks and seconded by member Harold. Oh, I'm chair now. I know, I just got updated. Yeah, I'm gonna let that slide because I made that mistake. So, Danielle, do you want to do a roll call? Can I just get a show of hands, please? Yeah. Thank you. Appreciate that, everyone. Appreciate the discussion and let's move on to, oh, public comments on item number 6.3. There are no hands raised in public comment. Thank you. Item number 6.4, city email addresses for CAB members. The staff will provide the CAB with information on the process of obtaining city email addresses. The CAB will discuss whether the board would like to move forward with obtaining an email address for each member of the CAB, Danielle. I will make this very quick. Madeleine, can you please share my notes so that everyone can see what I'm talking about? There was a community group that asked that CAB be given city email addresses. I looked into the process. Here it is from our IT department. There is an annual licensing fee of $75 per person. So that would equal for all 14 members, $1,050 per year. You currently don't have a budget for that. So we'd have to ask city council for that money. In addition to that, we would have to give every CAB member who wants an email a city device. If not, you use your own personal device. Your personal device is open for public discovery. So if there is a public records request, it opens up your personal device to that discovery process. So the whole public could know what you do behind closed doors. So it's really, really important for you to know. You have to take cybersecurity training every year when you get a city email address. And IT has to work with each individual member to set up their own account. And that could take anywhere between two to three weeks to do. So it is a lengthy process. If we're gonna do this, I'd want everyone to have an email address and I'd want everyone to be responsive to IT. That way it's equitable across the board and community members can get a hold of you. We would post those addresses on the CAB website. One potential issue that I see aside from not having the budget right now and needing to find the money is that if someone emails the entire CAB, it could open it up to a Brown Act violation. So that is my one concern with this. So I will turn it back over to the CAB to make a decision on this. This particular group would like a decision as soon as possible. Thank you. All right, thank you, Danielle. I do see hands up, but I am going to bring up a procedural issue that I see before we go to comments from the CAB members. You provided the screen here to us, but it was not provided to the public. These are my notes. I just wanted to make sure that you saw what I was talking about. I didn't provide a presentation. There's no need for a presentation. Everyone can see my notes. Okay. And they'll be in the minutes also. Right, but it doesn't allow the public any time to look at these before the meeting in order to potentially have public comment. So I think we may be out of procedure at this point. No, I don't think we are, but we can bring it back next month for discussion. Yeah, I'm going to go ahead with the discussion and the potential votes, but I would ask for staff to fully investigate my procedural question and make sure that our votes holds after the fact if we do take a vote. And because if it needs to be revisited then these notes potentially need to be as an attachment for public consumption prior to the next meeting. So with that, we'll go to member Stephanie. Thank you. Thank you Danielle for going through that. I was aware of this big quest. And I guess I just have one quick question. Do any other boards like ours have city email addresses? A couple of them do like the Planning Commission Board of Public Utilities. I think maybe the Design Review Board. So very project focused ones do. And then a very specific advisory board is like the general plan update and I think the charter review also had their own as well. And that makes sense. Those are the groups I would think would maybe need them. My opinion is that I understand why this group might want us to have them, but I think it's not a good idea. Personally, I don't wanna check yet another email address and all the other issues on your notes. Tell me that it's just this time. Not a good idea. And I know I've worked with some of these groups and they have my personal email and they can communicate with me that way. So that's my input. Thank you. Thank you. And I'm gonna go to Member Harold. Member Harold, you're up. I agree with what Stephanie just said, Member Stephanie, that we don't really need to do this for lots of reasons that Danielle brought up. Thank you. I don't wanna be liable with the, you know, and it's just a lot more and it costs money. And I mean, if there were a great need, I don't think, I don't see the need. Thank you for that. Member Lach. So just as a note to your procedural question, her sharing her notes, isn't technically a preventative from the public reviewing since the item was agendized. And having sat on commissions from the city and the county and in county commissions where it was both project or just other entities similar to the work we're doing, those that were project-based, we did have county emails established, but there were very strict provisions around the ways in which we could access the email address, i.e., you know, not downloading apps onto your phone to make it ease, check it from a desktop computer for any potential records requests. And then entities that I sat on that we didn't have emails, it was through the chair or coordinators, county staff, and that helped facilitate the information, the one commission that I participated on that did not have a provision in place. I endured a lot of harassment and aggressive communication from community. That was really hard to be addressed and protected because it didn't go through the chair or the staffer because there wasn't a policy in place to support it. And I don't know the dynamics of all the types of communication that people may feel they need to have with us, but it appears that in now, I think this is my third or fourth meeting where it's very information-based and discussion-based and folks can very fully engage in public comment should they choose. I don't like the idea of being available to people at their will of me. I think that's why Danielle has a really great job with security and benefits to provide her ample time to help Spheres along with members of her team. I don't get financially compensated, therefore, I don't feel the need to be available to answer folks in that way. As Member Steffi mentioned, I think if people knew me personally and wanted to have a conversation, I'm open to it, but I just, I'm not feeling the floodgates of like one more email address to keep track of. Or a device that would cost money that we don't have allocated. Thank you for all of those points and Vice Chair Leeds. Yeah, if I recall correctly, I believe Mayor Rogers actually announced yesterday that we had a perfectly balanced budget. I am not super thrilled about the idea of once again, I mean, obviously the budget has to be somewhat flexible. I mean, nothing's perfect or permanent. I mean, things happen and we have to obviously augment the budget to support whatever need there is, but that aside, it's a lot. And I think Member Lange raised some really good points, you know, in terms of opening us up to folks that, I mean, I know them. I know most of them are the folks that'll reach out to us and if they want to contact me, most of them have my information and if they really feel compelled to sit down and chat with me, which I'm perfectly happy to sit down and talk with people, they're more than welcome to reach out to Danielle and Danielle's, you know, able to relay that to me if they don't have my personal contact information. So I'd rather have it funneled through a single conduit being Danielle, which I'm sure she thoroughly appreciates, but I think that might be the best option for now. Maybe we can revisit this at the beginning of 2023, but I don't want to change things up right now, especially with, you know, things still kind of being a little bit nuts with, you know, everything going on in the world. So yeah, I would not be in favor of moving forward with that. Thank you. Any other comments? Member Barnett and member Richardson, we haven't heard from you, so just leaving that open. I personally agree with all the things that have already been said. I have three cell phones, one personal and two business ones. And so adding a fourth cell phone with a third compliant. I don't have enough spaces to keep them all and I don't want to put it on my personal phone because it does open it up for a FOIA request. So it's in discovery and legal litigation. So I feel like if there's a community member that wants to ask me a specific question, I'm open to having like dialogue with them that way, but I just feel like another device where I'm available to somebody, I don't want to do it. It's not good balance, right? And I also think as a mental health professional in 2021 of the things that I preach is self care. And I don't think it would be a good form of self care for myself and or other people. That's just my personal opinion. Thank you, member Richardson. And I always appreciate your voice here. So many times that you've brought it back to a real realistic point of view and your professional point of view. And I appreciate that. I don't mean to belabor this point, but I am still gonna make that request of staff to check about the procedures and why I'm doing that. Everyone is because this is a charged topic. It's a charged situation with folks that have requested this. And I want to dot all the I's and cross all the T's. So I'm making that request publicly. And I'm looking for follow up on that. And my own personal point of view is at this point in time, this would not be a prudent decision to move forward with email addresses. And I can make my personal email address very available to everyone. It is available. All you have to do is look me up online and you'll find just about everything because I've decided just to be open and transparent. So people can reach out in that way. But I also, again, truly respect everyone's time and their energy, just to be on this board. And I don't believe that we need to go to the next level of having a city email address to be available to our community members. That decision, that might change in the future. Maybe every single board would be requested to do that. Maybe with that kind of request, every single board would be compensated financially as well. So, and that's something that I would be asking for for all board members if an email address was attached to our participation and our service here. So with that, do we need to actually hold a vote and have a motion? No, this is not a voting item. Okay, thank you. We need to go on to public comment. I'll open it up to public comment now. I see those coming in. Sorry about that. There are no hands raised for public comment. Thank you, I appreciate that. So, Danielle, you've got the information that you need from us. Thank you, appreciate it. That closes out item number 6.4. And just to be clear, it sounded like we were all in agreement and Danielle, what you've got from that is that we'll be giving the information back to this group that we are not considering having email addresses at this time. But do check into that. Okay. Okay, moving on to item 6.5, issues of concern to city residents. This is a standing agenda item. So this happens every meeting. And then we can also have a public comment. So are there any issues of concern for city residents at this time? Member Lanch? I would just like to raise as a point for follow-up. Who can or who is in charge of like trimming the city residents in the city as a whole? And then we can also have a public comment. Who's in charge of like trimming the center divide trees and and bushels? I don't know what you call them, but that's what they look like. I live off of Marlowe between Piner and Durnville and that whole stretch is overgrown. And the only way to exit a subdivision is to drill down into traffic, but you can't see because all of the things are over six feet tall. And so that's a safety issue. There was a bad accident last week. And so people raced down the street at night. And so the visibility is very low. And so I would love an opportunity to, if there was like a little cheat sheet of who to call because when I called the number I thought would work. One, the person wasn't even familiar with the site of town I was talking with and couldn't direct me. I mean, something similar. Yeah, I know. Something similar happened when a tree fell during the high winds. No clue what side of town I was talking about even with the landmark like cutting down. So just, if there's a way to come up with a short little directory to have that handy just because the side of town seems to get a little over groomed, not groomed. Yeah, I'll gather the info from our weed abatement team. I believe it's actually park maintenance that deals with the islands and the tree issues, but I'll get the correct info and send it out. Okay, thank you. I saw member Harold. Yes, follow up on that. The islands, the mediums on the highway 12 heading from Oakmont to Santa Rosa. The grass is like three or four feet high and it's fire season. And it really needs to be cut. The CalTrans. Yeah, the highways is CalTrans territory. So I will call them up. Yeah, I'll cut that info along and they can make their contacts that they need to contact over there. Terrible. Yeah. I will say I traveled that stretch of road. My next door neighbor, well, she's moved out to Oakmont but I go out there every other day to check on her. But she had a doctor's appointment today and I went with her. And part, I said right past the same place and there's this huge corner. But as I circled back home, I went and looked and it's the property owner and I felt like leaving them a note like don't you know it's fire season? Please cut this down. I did it. But it does need to be trimmed. It is CalTrans because it's highway but also I think property owners or us as community members, I don't know the legality of that if we could be neighborly or community oriented and do some of our own pruning work or gardening cleanup, yard clean, agriculture cleanup, landscape cleanup is the word I was looking for. Yeah, so on private property, you just have to get the owner's permission and get a crew together to go help them out. Fire season has officially begun and I believe there is going to be an article like the headline article in Tomorrow's City Connections all about fire prevention and weed abatement and just all the contact information that the community needs for issues like you're talking about right now. So I will, I'll take a look at that but I'm also gonna contact our weed abatement crew over at fire to see if I can just gather or if they have something that's already been created for this to get out to everybody. Thank you and vice chair weeks. I know through my leadership program actually just the other week that city manager Smith actually said that one of her like kind of made things that she really wants to tackle is actually the weeds and some of the other issues that we have that have kind of been popping up everywhere because what does it say about a city if its own city hall has weeds all over the place? And unfortunately we're not able to use herbicides which I'm not a big proponent of herbicides but it does make it more challenging cause then our parks folk have to go weed by weed and hand poll it which obviously is very time consuming and we have limited resources but I appreciate her commitment to doing that and I look forward to us moving forward on that to just really quick things. Yeah, I just wanna say coming out of Beaver Orchard any of those streets onto West College or excuse me college is incredibly dangerous and I would love to at some point in the near future have a conversation with city staff or have someone come here to maybe discuss some sort of option that we might be able to put into place where there might be some sort of signage or I don't know I just know personally exiting those streets on a daily basis it's not safe. There's often cars blocking your eye line and so you can't see cars coming and so and imagine I'm not alone in feeling those sentiments and then oh then at some point I would like to maybe have a city staff member come forward and discuss some of the issues around potholes as well. I know I've traveled throughout many of the all the districts really quite frequently and there is a lot of inequity in terms of where the road is being packed and I know it's because there's scarce resources always scarce resources, but and I know the general plan will to some extent address this but I still have some concerns about some pretty major potholes and I know we have an app I believe that you can actually message the city and then within three days they'll come fix it is that still a thing or is that or my misremembering? The My Santa Rosa app? Yes. Well, I can't say that they'll come out in three days and fix it, but it's the app is still available. Excellent. I will be sure to share that on next door with my community members because I think that's a really important resource that they should know about and be readily accessible to them. So that's it. Yeah, I just put the weed abatement website in the chat the link to that but that's more focused on like private property. So I have to do a little bit more digging on the public property side of things. Thank you. And thanks for getting that link out there that link again for private property and a follow up for more of the public information and it dawns to me and I think I've said this remember Audrey, please go right ahead. Sorry, I just, you know, one thought we are in a drought and working in the water world please support the city go to the water wise remind people to please save water drip irrigation, do everything you can these next couple of months. So we really kind of beat into that. So our firefighters do have the water in our reservoirs should we need it but please encourage everyone to also conserve water in these summer months. Thanks. Thank you. And yeah, with that, do you remember that that water smart expo is also on next Wednesday, the 29th at Wednesday market. So you can drop by encourage folks to go by they'll get free supplies, low flow showerheads and aerators for their other sink fountains and whatnot. So even a nozzle, an adjustable nozzle for their garden hose and great information. What occurs to me is that there's so much information here that I feel like sometimes we miss out we're saving all of this and Daniel is feverishly trying to process it all and write it all down and then it comes to us in an email with the minutes closer to the next meeting. If there's any way to kind of divide out some of that information we get some of this important information of contacts and whatnot earlier that would be much appreciated. I also want to encourage Vice Chair Weeks to maybe try out the app and have a testimonial to go to social media with before you go on next door can be fraught with a lot of negativity. Let me tell you and talk about sometimes an unsafe space for people. So I would love for you to have robust information to give people how it works and be able to manage those expectations a little bit if you're gonna post on there. And I do agree that City Manager Smith had mentioned to me as well that this was one of her priorities was to cut down these weeds and I know that flucking them one by one probably is a little time consuming but sometimes those bigger areas the six foot tall out on Marlowe just needs to be cut down and community groups can gather I want to say this for public consumption community groups can gather and get resources from the city and potentially even resource us for some grant money through the community improvement grant to host a cleanup in their area Bennett Valley Strong in District Two did this back in April they were not able to access us for grant funds in time so we may see their application coming in this next round which again for public consumption our deadline for our next round of community improvement grants is June 30th for our decision to be made in July that our July meeting so if you have a community group out there that is just like we need to clean up this space and we just can't wait for the city timeline to get it done that's something that they could propose and even potentially get some support from the city and permits and whatnot to make something like that happen Bennett Valley Strong did it on the medians on Summerfield actually and down in a creek area as well and they do that twice a year so I know that's why an application may be coming in this next round for a grant I think that's maybe all of the issues of concern for now for members can we open it up to public comment? There are no hands raised for public comment Thank you we'll close out item number 6.5 and go to item number seven the future agenda items please remember that the schedule is tentative I'm just gonna read off what is coming up this is subject to change and we can also have input continue working on the strategic plan as needed it's needed we'll be bringing that up to our next agenda in July in the city's diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives tentatively scheduled in June obviously we're pushing that back community improvement grant Q2 funding so that is the important meeting here coming up in July and we will be approving potentially approving some of those applications that come in and applications once again are still open until June 30 so if you know of community groups it is not a hard application folks to fill out and you can give them assistance by answering some questions you can't fill it out for them and you can certainly send them to Danielle for any assistance that they may need and then to meet our new city manager do a meet and greet sometime in the future as well I suggest that if we do that that we definitely do it during a hybrid meeting and that we definitely have a potluck and make ourselves available in that way for those of us that can so are there any suggestions for future agenda items member Burnett I want to say member Ram Ram wanted us to potentially have a presentation on the My Santa Rosa app because he had issues trying to troubleshoot the problem when he submitted a request I've submitted a request and what you get on the response side is a message that basically says you know completed which is not the case and so I think he had put a request is that a future agenda item that if the department that's running that so we could kind of find out of what exactly is the process when we tell someone in the community to submit it through the My Santa Rosa app where does it go and how do they get follow-up on I think was the question that he had brought forward I do remember that and I actually remember talking to him in person at the wildfire ready event as well and that word completed is somewhat of a misnomer if it's completed as in it's filed in the system but it's not completed as in the project is done so you know just a communication issue potentially and I encourage us all to use the app and you can you know go online on your desktop do it on your phone and you can follow up I have had success with it in the past most recently in 2020 about a tree over in the cherry district I want to say of the Grace district I can't remember which one but I had to do a lot of follow-up I had to do a lot of work so that's why I was suggesting to have that experience because when you're putting it out there and you're making community members do more work than then you might expect that can be frustrated frustrated frustrated so any other items we'll include that item thank you member Barnett I don't see any other items going to public comment no hands raised for public comment I did not change the page and there was also a to be determined office of community engagement strategic plan and the out there Santa Rosa but those are all to be determined on your list as well are you looking at the agenda or you looking at the agenda the minutes because the agenda actually lists out the a more updated list so out there Santa Rosa presentation is scheduled for July we have their their consultant coming in July next month that that would be an item to discuss definitely then we're moving our strategic planning to July and we also have the grant grants so like the four-hour meetings back on so that is the only time they're available in the next couple months so if you would like to push it out then it's going to get pushed back quite a bit is is there any well what's the what's the topic the topic is out there Santa Rosa it is somewhat of an arts component of the city their neighborhood mapping piece which is what member Barnett wanted them to talk about seems like we could do that later couldn't we is there any objection to pushing out the out there Santa Rosa agenda item I see no objection so we request that it be pushed out well contact the coordinator for that thank you I think I did have a page of my May agenda mixed in in my June agenda I apologize for that I was trying to save paper so which is saving water and and gas and electricity and all kinds of things so I'll continue with public comment just to round it out I don't believe anybody's there no hand trays for the comment that closes out item number seven and we're moving on to item number eight which is adjournment I would see no objection to being sure to adjourn second we're making it official member Lange and vice chair weeks and it looks like everybody's in agreeance so thank you all so much oh my goodness you all are getting more sliders when we were able to have that potluck I'm bringing good stuff let me tell you hold on please hold on thank you thank you everybody have a good night thank you