 You're welcome back. It's still the breakfast on POS TV Africa. The main thing now is that Jack was seen from everybody wants to go abroad. And it's understandable. People seek greener pastures abroad. But there are those who fall victims of sex trafficking crimes and the syndicates that perpetrate this. What is it like surviving sex trafficking? We're being joined by very lovely ladies who are survivors of this sex trafficking. We have to my immediate left. We just simply want to call her Rachel. Rachel, good morning and welcome to the program. And we have Odion also at my far right. Welcome to the program. Okay, well let's start from the beginning. I'm sure it was a very mild watering proposal that came to you and then you wanted to go out of the country. What was it like? Let me start from Odion now. Excited. Because I never knew that it's going to be something that would make me feel sad. Make me not be happy. At the first when they told me they said that I'm going to do a non-job over there. In Dubai? In UAE. So getting there, it was something that's different. I saw something different in there. But I'm not going to do this. My mother beats me, beats the hell out of me. Shattered at me. I was forced to do what I don't want to do. Okay, well when you say they told me, was it a group of people or what? Was it just somebody that approached you? It was my friend that approached me. He brought me so close together. He told me, look at this. There's an opportunity to travel with. There's another opportunity that he said to Dubai. That the lady said I'm going to do a non-job thing. I said, non-job. Okay, no problem. I'm going to go. Okay, was it the same story with you? Yeah. Okay, how did it get to you? How did this information get to you? It was for my cousin's time. When she told me, I was very lucky that at last I want to raise my family off. Then they told me that it was selling. No, I'm going to be selling. Then when I got there, it was something else. Could you speak a little bit louder so that I can get here? It was something else. And when I got there, they told me that if I refused to do it, that they are going to beat me. Then I'm going to still pay them their money. Then anything that makes me to misbehave, any amount of money I've paid them before, they are going to cancel it. Then I will start from the beginning again. So you were supposed to pay them for something that they had asked you to go and make money for yourself? Yes. You were supposed to pay them? Yes. Oh, that's interesting. So was it like there was an organization that was taking people there and distributing? Or is this the same madam for instance? Let me come back to you. Is it the same madam that sent someone to get people from home? It's the madam that told people. So people were not like, you would tell someone. Like saying there's a vacancy somewhere? Yes, yes. You would tell the person that don't tell them that this is the job they are going to do. They just tell them that they want to go for maybe a catering job, tillering job or addressing. Did your friend know what you were going to do? Or he was also deceived? He was not. I think he knew. He knew? Yes. Because they paid him. Actually, they gave him money. I never knew. When I got there, that's why my madam told me that. He gave him money. Oh. And when you came back, did you confront him? I didn't even see him. When I came back. Okay. When you got there, was it just you? Or you were many that were doing the same thing? We were very many. Like in our house, we were about to eat to 10 girls there. Oh. Three of us came the same day. Then we met the other girls there. Was it like a brothel or it was someone's house and then they were taking you out from the house? It's someone's house. They're right there in the house then they're not turning it into a bath. In the house. Then maybe it would be like a passage that would divide the room. Each of the rooms, small, small for each of the girls. That was the same thing with you? Yeah. Okay. In case you're just joining us, we're talking to survivors of sex trafficking. They went as far as Dubai. Having been deceived here in Nigeria that they were going to take off jobs in the UAE. One of them, Rachel, was promised a job as a seller or a store attendant or whatever name you would want to call it. But she didn't know that it was going to be something else. And the same thing with Odion, the way now turned into sex slaves. Now, how was it possible? Because we've heard stories about people who are taken to those kind of places. Not just threatening you. Sometimes they ask you to swear to some gods that you do not know. Did it happen to both of you? Yes. Okay. So how did you get this kind of salutation? Now you're in Nigeria. That means somebody saved you. How did it happen? Let's begin with Odion. I was turned back because my place, the place we were. Speak out please. The place we were. So the bus that place, police, the bus that place, they were fighting, shouting. So the bus that place, we ran at. Okay. So I went to the UAE government. Okay. So they returned me back. So you were deported? Yes, I was deported back. Okay. What happened to you? How did you get back home? It was 152 when we were inside because during that period it was the first time period. That was when they wanted everybody to go back to their country. So we were inside when they came to Buster. So law ran out. So I had somewhere before, but the police were actually leaving. So I came back by myself because I was already tired. I was ready to go back home. So I came back. That was how I followed them. So when you got there, I'm sure that you had passports before you went to that place. Was it that they seized your passport? Why was it so difficult for you to run away as it is until you had to be deported before you could get back to Nigeria? My passports. I didn't use my own passports to someone's or not to use it. That would resemble someone that looked like me. Oh. Well, it's also possible that it was your passport that they didn't want to give to you. Maybe both of you. Because we here, you can't go to someone's country without a passport. So maybe the process of the passport, but you never got to hold it, which means there's a very big syndicate that is doing this from Nigeria to the UAE. Okay, now we've seen all that and we thank God that you're back to the country in one piece, no matter what has happened. We thank you for your courage for even coming out here to say what you're saying, because it's not everybody that can do what you're doing. But we're interested in since you came back to Nigeria, what you've been doing. First of all, when did you go to the UAE? That was last year. Last year? What about you? Last year. Now you're back to the country. What have you been doing? Because a lot of people are still being deceived as we talk right now. So what are you doing to correct that? Because what you face, maybe you don't want another person to face. I'm an Asterisk. Yes, I do face. Okay. In fashion design, I made crook. Oh, really? Okay, but what about trying to get people to know what happens in the UAE? What are the activities that you've been doing? We... You didn't know each other in the UAE, did you? No, we know each other. Oh, you came back here? I say, organization of survivors. Yeah, so... In Benin, we walk door to door. We have to talk to people. Tell the youth, the younger ones, that look at the way they will trick you, talk to you, that we have to do something. We are... We want to... My sister, my brother, is in a bird. We want to carry if we're not mean, ask job or to say something. There's nothing like that going on there. It's actually a different thing that we go there to do. So we just tell them, talk to them, that we too, we are survivors. We went there before. So we saw many things. So we have to talk to you guys. Every one of the madams told us that two of our girls traveled before we came there. So the madams said, they'll be talking to the girls, telling them that you push not for visiting all these stories. Okay, so this group that you have formed, the survivors of the... It has a name? No, we don't have a name. Okay. That is in Benin City. How many of you are in that group? It's just four of us. Four? Yeah. So how have you been managing to go from house to house? Did you make so much money in Dubai that you are now spending going from house to house? That's one village thing. How big do you intend to take these, let me call it evangelism, to the people who may be ignorant? We just... I will talk to ourselves. You don't have any support from any organization? No. Do you have any plans to talk to the government, for instance? Yes. So is someone helping you to facilitate that? Not yet. Not yet. But you want to talk to the government. So if you have this opportunity to talk to the government, what would you tell them? I would tell them that they have put join hands together so they can talk to the youth. Go to villages like that because it's mostly in villages to go and talk to girls, pick them from that place, tell them that, look at, deceive them. From there, take them. There is an organization called Civil Life Initiative. It's an NGO. Have you had any contact with them? Okay. Well, maybe we too will look for ways to connect you with the right people and all that. But for it, like I said, for you girls to come out, you have been trafficked to the UAE. You were deceived instead of getting the jobs that you were supposed to get, you were forced into becoming sex slaves, into doing prostitution that you didn't dream that you were going to do. But like I said also, we thank God that you got back home in one piece. So if you're watching us right now, know that it's not always greener on the outside. And if it is green, someone might have watered the plants that made it green. So like they said in the gods, gods are not to blame. I think that's the novel that was all I wrote to me. The gods are not to blame. Stay where you are. That might just be the best advice that you will get from anybody. Fetch the water where you stand. That might be the only fresh water that you have because if you go into a wider body of water, it might just be salt water and you didn't know from afar. We'd like to thank Rachel and John, two survivors of these heinous acts of syndicate or syndicates that take our girls out to other places deceiving them that they're going to have very lucrative jobs and end up making them become sex slaves. We hope that after now or now that you're back to the country that the prosperity you were looking for in the UAE will find you where you are. So whatever we can do in the media, generally I'm not talking about just plus TV Africa to encourage you to keep on the good work that you're doing, house to house. It's not an easy thing. Even the pastors even the evangelists know this. Even the politicians that want your vote they know this. It is a very tedious job. We'd like to thank you for what you're doing and we hope that through you girls and the other ones that we're not able to come here, a lot of people will be informed. Thank you so much for coming on this show. Well you've heard it from odd John and Rachel that were taken to the UAE. Some people are taken to Italy. Some people are taken to other countries of the world with the promise of a better life and then they end up doing something else. You could fall victim as well. So if you're watching us now be advised and make sure that you also tell somebody what is happening. These two ladies are some of the most courageous people I have known I've come across in all my years on earth to come to do what they have done here. Most times you don't even see the faces of the people who confess that this is what they have come through but they were able to show themselves. We do hope that every other organization that can will give them the opportunity to talk to the people because every media house has its fans anyway. So let them talk to the people and let more girls especially get to know that it's not always rosy everywhere else than where they come from. That's how it's been on the show this morning. Thank you so much Richard for coming thank you Odion for coming and for you watching us. Thank you for being a part of our show this morning on behalf of the entire team of the Breakfast on Claw Stevia Africa. My name is Nyamu Ghul at Gadji. Let's do it again tomorrow. Bye for now.