 for that so please look through that also to bring up the date where we are on some of our funding with the state and some of our mandates. Michael, you're done? Before I get started I just like to do one more thing. We got a nice email from a family telling how good our police department is, our detective bureau and what a great job they do in the city of Shevoi again and I'd just like to share that with you and the community. They talk about one officer in here and he said he he wished we just say the whole detective bureau not just pick out one officer but this detective did a marvelous job and I think that everyone should know that we do have excellent police department in the city of Shevoi again so so you remember that. Okay we'll call the notice of the 16th regular meeting to order. Pat, would you call the roll? Bowman? Sorry? Deberg? Here. Eberg? Here. Doyle? Here. Manny? Here. Moody? Here. Perez? Here. Ports? Here. Schultz? Here. Stefan? Here. Deven Akron? Excuse. Teven Akron? Here. Vanderweal? Here. Wongelman? Here. Warner? Here. Weninger? Here. 15 presents? Corms present. Alderman Van Akron's wife, Nita, is back in the hospital so hopefully everything goes well. Alderman Van Akron, Terry? Thank you, Your Honor. I move that we accept the minutes of the previous meeting as entered on the record. Moved in a second. We approve the minutes of the previous council meeting under discussion. Hearing none, all in favor? Aye. Opposed? Motion carried. We have with us this evening Boy Scout Troop 872 from our Savior Church. Casey Schmitz with them, the committee chairman. Dave Martin, Assistant Scout Master and Gary Groeschman. Groescham. Groescham, excuse me, Assistant Scout Master. So, Scouts, would you come up and lead us in a pledge of allegiance, please? Excuse me. Thank you, Scouts. I had the privilege of going to some of their court of honors and I think this is one Scout Troop that has probably had the most eagles in the last year, year and a half, then any Troop in the city. Excellent job. Good job, leaders, and keep up the good work. And again, thanks Scouts for coming up. Okay, we have three hearings this evening. I'll read the three and then if anyone wishing to be heard on any hearing, please step up to microphone, give us your name, address, and which one you want to speak on, one, two, or three. The first one is the rezoning property located at 1526 North Taylor Drive. The second one is established to use district classification for annexed property located on the southeast corner of Sunnyside Avenue in South 13th Street. And the third one is established to use district classification of annexed property located on the east side of Fuebert Circle north of Iser Avenue. Any interested parties wishing to be heard? Please step up to the microphone. Good evening, council. My name is Jim Mickelson, and I live at 3226 Superior Avenue. And regarding the hearing 1533, the first hearing of this evening, rezoned property at 1526 North Taylor Drive. I'm just curious, Iowan property actually at 3226 Superior Avenue, which is actually the two backyards. Touch each other, and I was just wondering if the city at this point in time had any indication whether or not they're going to zone our property at that location, which is right alongside of it, or back to back, I should say. I talked to Steve here earlier, and he gave me some information. Okay, Tom, could you answer that please, or Paulette? Oh, I'm sorry, Steve, I'm sorry. Yeah, I spoke to Mr. Mickelson before the hearing, and it's not the city's intent at this point in time to rezone any of the property along Superior Avenue. What we're doing this evening is an applicant has made an application on a property that's zoned urban residential, and they'd like to switch it to a suburban office, which is compatible with our comprehensive plan staff as recommended approval. So with regards to Mr. Mickelson's case, it would be that typically it's an applicant who is submitting a proposal to the city. The city can do that, but typically it's up to the applicant to say, hey, this is something I'd like the city to consider, and at that time, staff and plant commission and council would review that and take action upon it. Thank you, Steve. Thank you. Sir. Hi, I'm Bill Novak, and I live at 3227 West Meadows Court, which is the condos right to the north of 1526 North Taylor. We have a couple of questions on that. First of all, I guess I think it'd be addressed to Tom. We understand there's no water and sewer in that property. Where would that be hooked up to? I guess it would be hooked up if it's available in Taylor Drive. They go into Taylor Drive to make their connections. Because we had problems with in-back coupling up to ours before. The other thing I have on the north side of this property, which would be the south side of ours, there's a drainage ditch. And when the flood was here, if that drainage ditch wouldn't have been there, we would have water. So will that be stained, you know, or you can? I don't know what's planned to go in there. I haven't seen a site plan, but we will look at that when the time comes. And I guess the third thing on there that I have, I don't know if Mr. Pasteur is in, is on the north side of that property. Again, there's some nice evergreens that are not hurting anybody. If they could leave them, they'd be. Our condo owners would really appreciate it. And I don't think they're hurting anybody because there's a nice straight road right about on the line. As far as the trees, Tom loves trees. You see a lot around Cheboygan. So they'll stay up possible. I'm Dan Pasteur, 3234 A. West Meadows Court. The same condo complex, we got it. Just at the spur of the moment, do we know what's going in there? There's just going to be rezoned now. Is it going to be a 10 story building or what's the limitations? Steve, please. At this point in time, there's just been some general conversations. They're looking at it as a suburban office. And I would assume at this point in time, it'll probably be some type of office use. But until the property is zoned and the city actually has an application in hand, we really can't say it. So at tonight, we're just strictly rezoning the property from residential to suburban office. But I would anticipate that if there is the change that an application will probably be coming shortly. And at that point in time, obviously staff would be able to let the public as well as the council know what is occurring here. Thank you. Anyone else wishing to be heard on any of the three hearings? Anyone else? Alderman Van Akron. Move the hearings to be closed. Moved and seconded hearing be closed under discussion. Hearing none. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Motion carried. Public form, Pam? Yes. Carol Table. Carol, you have five minutes. Good evening, Carl. Good evening. Your honor, Mayor Schramm, members of the council, assemblymen elect Terry Van Akron, especially my alderman, Bill and Mike, ladies and gentlemen, tonight I would like to give several compliments and also suggestions for some possible future legislation. Mayor, thank you for the valiant battle with the issue of the state revenue sharing concerns that you worked with hard with the alliance of cities and the league of municipalities. I'd like to thank you, the members of the council, for keeping the position of city clerk an elected position. Members of the council, you did the people's will when you awarded the ambulance contract to Orange Cross. I commend the fire chief, Mark Zier, for his professionalism exhibited with the fire department proposal and also Mike Warner for his diligence as committee chairman. This fall, you elected a new council member in Alderman Bonet's place. I ask that assemblymen elect Terry Van Akron propose and work on the state level that our cities are allowed to have special elections by the people. Four people were interested in that position. An election by the people would have brought great interest into city government, no matter what the cost of election. But I do want to congratulate Alderman Manny, who was legally appointed under the city statutes. As a member of the council, I had proposed shorter contractual terms for department heads. As a team player, my proposal was not accepted. But noting the sudden departure of Jackie Jarvis breaking her five-year contract, I would ask that Ed Zurich and chairman Don Van Akron bring forth legislation that if a department head breaks their contract, a certain fee be asked of that individual if they need to be released before the five-year contract is out. The Northside Traffic Study of the Sheboygan Press Article August 2, 2002 states that there is no need for Taylor Drive extension. I asked this evening that the council would pursue under the council president Van Akron's leadership to initiate legislation here that all city land that is now held for Taylor extension be deeded to the proper Maywood and Evergreen parks. Regarding the 2003 budget and the dilemma that the mayor mentioned earlier on the state level, Mr. Mayor and council members, all you have to do is go back to last fall when we had the committee of the hall and look at the lists that the members of the council brought in at the committee of the hall. An example, there is no reason for our city to be renting buildings when we own the rice building. Please review those cut lists from the council members last year. Regarding the badly needed new police station, your citizens are backing a new police station but are very concerned of where it will be. I urge you to watch very carefully that you do not take valuable property off the tax roll. And the last item this evening, the South Pier project. I wish you best wishes, all of you who are working with the South Pier project. But keep in mind that there is only one little road that goes in and out of that project. That is not a place for an athletic complex. So again, bid you please keep the armory open and updated. And at this time, Mr. Mayor, I would like to give a presentation to you. Over the years members of the council, I had the chance to go to the mayor and say to the mayor, I'm going to be in this country or that country as recent as July when I had a chance to visit Cuba. The mayor was always most gracious. And I can remember taking a pack of pencils into Cuba and what that meant to the Cuba people and the boys and girls who have so little. And so tonight, Mr. Mayor, in appreciation for your being the cheerleader for Sheboygan, I have a book that I'd like to present to you. This fall, as Mike Warner asked, Carl, where have you been during the year? And I went through the list. Well, this fall, I was at a political get-together in Plain, Georgia. And President Mrs. Carter were there. And President Carter signed his own book, Jimmy Carter, Sources of Strength. And I know, Mayor, at times we have talked and we've talked family and your love for your parents and your children. I'd like you to have this personal copy, Jimmy Carter Sources of Strength, which he autographed, and I have a picture to vouch. Mr. Mayor. Thank you, Carl. That was very kind of you. Can't talk that. Can't talk that. You're right. No more. I didn't count the presentation. That was two minutes. Otherwise, you were five minutes. You're good. Did a good job. That it for public forum? Yes, sir. Alderman Van Aikeren. Thank you, Your Honor. On the consent agenda, I would move that all ROs be accepted and filed. All committee reports be accepted and adopted. All resolutions and general ordinances be put upon their passage. Moved in second. All ROs be accepted and filed. ROCs be accepted and adopted. Resolutions and ordinances be put upon their passage. That is 16-1 through 16-18. Alderman Moody. Thank you, Your Honor. No need to pull it. Just a question on 16-7. It says, directing a public hearing to change the text of the zoning ordinance to permit indoor commercial entertainment. What do they mean by indoor commercial entertainment? Is there anything specific? We were wondering that ourselves. Steve? Is that a Steve question, Steve? On 16-7, it's a resolution by Alderman Warner directing a public hearing to change the text of the zoning ordinance to permit indoor commercial entertainment as a conditional use. Are you just looking for an explanation, Alderman Moody? What kind of entertainment? What staff is doing in this particular case is we've had an application submitted to us. There's a group, a martial arts group, looking to do some martial arts in an urban industrial zone. Indoor commercial entertainment, which would include taverns, restaurants, studios, martial arts, all the different types of indoor commercial uses aren't presently permitted in the urban industrial zone. What staff is suggesting is to conditionally allow for indoor commercial entertainment uses in the urban industrial zone. Presently in the suburban industrial zone, the indoor commercial entertainment uses are conditionally permitted. So what we're proposing is to have this conditionally allowed in the urban industrial and therefore this applicant who is interested in this martial arts studio can make a conditional use application and possibly have that use conditionally permitted in the urban industrial zone. So if there's any other type of entertainment in this urban industrial, each one would have to apply? That's correct. And you're right. That's anywhere from... Something that's already there. I'm sorry? Even if it's identical to something that's already there, like you're saying martial arts now, if another martial arts group wanted to come in... If there is a provision in our ordinance as far as conditional use, that if a use has not continued for 365 days, that that use can continue. So if there was a martial arts that wanted to come in and it was 265 days since the last time the other one was used, it could continue. However, if that 365 days expired, then a new conditional use application would have to be submitted. And this is urban industrial, like in the industrial park? Our industrial parks, I believe, are suburban industrial, which presently have this as a conditional use. Okay, thank you. Thank you, Steve. Are there any other questions? If not, would you call the roll please, Pat? D-Berg, E-Berg, Doyle, Manny, Moody, Perez, Ports, Schultz, Stefan, Teevan Akron, Vanderweal, Wangeman, Warner, Weninger, 15 Ayes. Motion carried. Bauman, 15 Ayes. I'm sorry. Motion still carried. Oh, I haven't done that since Great Archie. 1619, well, to be referred. 1620 will hold for 1627, Alderman Berg. Ah, yes, if I could take both of those and ask for a suspension of the rules. On 1620 and 1627. We're not there yet. We'll get there. We'll get there. 1621 and 22 lie over. 2 November. 211, 25, correct. 1623 lies over. 1624 through 26 to be referred. Now 1627 along with 1620 by Alderman Berg, authorizing entering into contract for the bulkhead reconstruction, Harbor Center South, Peer District, Alderman Berg. Thank you. I wanted to give Alderman Venak a fair warning of the suspension of the rules. Requesting suspension of the rules on these two documents. Moved and seconded for suspension. Is there any objections? Hearing none, proceed. Thank you, Your Honor. I think we're looking at suspension. The bids for this particular project need to be in Madison by the 27th of this month. If we don't have suspension, we'd be calling a special council meeting to approve. This is attendant to our receiving a no interest loan from the Department of Natural Resources. You will note the bids came in very, very favorable. We're at a $1.7 million sea wall construction, which really will go from the south pier all the way up to the capsule property on the river. If they start now, I believe that they could be completed by spring. By summer. And I believe that situation is such that they can also work through the winter. So I would ask for the council's approval on saying. Gator, the motion be forced to that resolution be put upon its passage. Under discussion Alderman, I heard of Alderman Venakren. One other quick comment. I did talk to Tom earlier this week. So I knew this was coming and seeing we have the deadline. The suspension made a lot of sense. Also, I believe we had budgeted $2.3 million for this project. So the fact that it's coming into 1.6, I'll suspend almost anything if you can save half a million dollars on it. So I'll remember that. There's another discussion. Pat, would you call the roll please? Eberg, Doyle, Manny, Moody, Perez, Quartz, Schultz, Stefan, T. Venakren, Zanderweal, Wongerman, Warner, Weininger, Bauman, D. Berg, 15 Ayes. Motion carried. 1628 will lie over. 1629 through 34 to be referred. 1635 and 36 lies over. 1637 to be referred. 1532 along with 1568. An IRO by City Plan Commission recommending approving the naming of the front age row in Washington Square as South Business Drive 2. Alderman Warner. I thank you, Your Honor. Can I take them both together? Please. And I would make a motion. We accept and file the IROs and pass the attached ordinance. We would second that. We accept and file the IROs and pass the general ordinance. Under discussion. Under discussion, Your Honor, I'll number 3280203 and general ordinance 460303 is relative to establishing the use district classification of annexed property located on the southeast corner of Sunnyside Avenue and Salt 13th Street and as class SR3 Suburban Residential which matches with the area. Do I have the right one? I'll pass looking. We're only on the IRO and the ordinance for Washington Square. Did you want to include the next two documents with it? Yes. 33 and 34? Yes. Oh, you didn't and 35? You didn't mention that. Okay. And I was reading 1534 first. Oh, we have 33, 34 and 35. I'm going to have to go backwards to 33. And then make a new motion, please. A new motion? Well, you didn't include these three. I meant all three documents. Make a motion to accept the IROs for 1533, 1534 and 1535 and pass the attached ordinances. Very good. Okay. Okay. Alderman Warner, proceed. Thank you, Your Honor. Document number 1533, IRO number 3207 or 203 is relative to rezoning the property located at 1526 North Taylor Drive from Class UR Suburban Residential to Class Suburban Office classification. This will change the zoning of the property, Your Honor, to Suburban Office keeping in line with the city's future plans. Document 1534, which is IRO number 3280203 is establishing use district classification of annex property located on the southeast corner of Sunnyside Avenue in Salt 13th Street is Class SR3 Suburban Residential. The plan commission recommends this classification as it is the same as the surrounding city residences. Document 1535, general ordinance or I should say IRO number 3290203, general ordinance 470203 is relative to establishing the use district classification of annex property located on the east side of Hubert Circle, north of Eisenhower Avenue as Class SR5 Suburban Residential and keeping with the surrounding neighborhood. And the plan commission recommends approval on that also. Thank you. Okay. Is there any discussion? Alderman Doyle. Yes, Your Honor. I'm not big into naming streets or anything like that, but I'd just like to hear the rationale because it seems to me like that's sort of going to be a confusing thing. I'm wondering why they didn't give an original name of its own instead of putting this Roman numeral after. All that please. The rationale behind the naming of the street was, I think there was, and Tom can probably add to this, in the Washington Square shopping center, there is a mailbox, et cetera. And I think they have about 1,000 boxes with an address of South Business Drive. And so that was the rationale behind South Business Drive 2, was to keep the name and name it too. And it went to, it was, I think, discussed intensely. And then the last meeting that was held was with the fire chief, the police chief, and I think director of public works and some engineering staff and the developer for that property. And they came to the conclusion that South Business Drive 2 would work. The police department, in the case of emergency, as well as fire would be able to locate those businesses in the shopping district. And then it went to plan commission and plan commission recommended the naming of the street. Alderman Warner. Thank you, your honor. This was discussed in plan commission and actually I can remember our previous director of city development bringing this forward just over a year ago. And there were a lot of issues involved with the businesses. This has been a lengthy process to come up with an acceptable name and has been in the works for over a year. There are several issues that impact the naming of this frontage road. The businesses that are located there have a vested interest because of thousands of dollars invested in stationary business cards and advertising dollars. The emergency services, police, fire, and ambulance, as well as building inspection have been involved in this process also. Emergency response is extremely dependent on the accuracy of an address. But by naming this frontage road South Business Drive 2, there will be no doubt about the location of an incident requiring emergency service. It is very important that this change be approved. Does anyone remember what the property that Washington Square now sits on looked like before the present development? A sprawling brownfield, oil tanks, piles of tires, litter strewn acres of useless property. And I saw on one of the city's southern entrances. We now have the flagship store of fresh brand foods. Who doesn't know the phrase shop the pig? Bookstores, coffee shops, and a new and modern Walgreen store community bank and others have made a commitment to this once dilapidated area of our city. They have all been involved in the naming of this frontage road. Although I do not adhere to the one size fits all belief in most issues. We already have set similar standing for the naming of streets. And I would add that these constraints that we have been used before and we can see it right on Cole Memorial Drive where we have Cole Memorial Drive frontage road. These locations are well defined. South Business Drive and South Business Drive 2 will give the same distinction to the businesses located there. We should not stand in the way of this compromise and that's what it is. This is just too important. Thank you. Thank you, Alderman Schultz. Thank you, your honor. Another thing is driving this is all of those businesses are on the west side of Business 42. All the numbers are used up. All of the even numbers are used up. And there can't be odd and even numbers because they're both on the west side. So they had to come up with either another street name or some other method of identifying the buildings that are being built to the east of the existing ones that are built on the west end of the property if that makes sense. But anyway, because they're both on the west side of Business 42 they had to come up with another way of identifying them. Correct. You were on a plan commission when this started, you think Alderman Schultz? That is correct. Alderman Moody. Well, thank you, your honor. Did anyone discuss the possibility of having the same not host number but business number as Business Drive 2 and Business Drive? Is that possible? Probably not, huh? I'm not sure what you're asking. Paulette or Tom? Is it possible? You're asking if you could have the same number for South Business Drive and South Business Drive 2? Right. Yes. Right. Is it possible? Yes. But we have the situation that we have Quill Memorial Drive than Wright South, we have Quill Memorial Place. We have like South 17th Street or South 17th Place. It's in line with what we've done. And that doesn't get confusing for people who may have to call in an emergency? Not that I'm aware of. Okay. Okay. That would be the only concern I had. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Just another discussion. Pat, would you call the roll please? Doyle. Manny. Moody. Moody. Perez. Ports. Schultz. Stefan. Teevin Akron. Vanderwiel. Wongerman. Warner. Weninger. Bowman. D-Berg. E-Berg. Thank you. 15 highs. Washington carried. 1553 by Alderman T. Van Akron. Perez, Schultz, and Doyle. Transferring appropriations in the 2002 budget. Alderman Van Akron. Thank you, Your Honor. I'd like to take 1554 and 1555. All three are transfers in the budgets. 1554 being a transfer of funds to provide monies to establish an estimated revenue and appropriations for federal subsidy for bus purchases. And 1555 is authorizing a transfer of appropriations in the 2000 budget. I'd move that all three resolutions be put upon their passage. Moved in second. That the three resolutions be put upon their passage under discussion. Caring none. Would you call the roll please? Manny. Moody. Perez. Ports. Schultz. Stefan. Teevin Akron. Vanderwiel. Wongerman. Warner. Weninger. Bowman. Dieberg. Eberg. Doyle. 15 ayes. Motion carried. 1573, RC by Public Protection and Safety, recommending filing communication from the Sheboygan Clinic requesting a removal of the parking sign on North 25th Street next to the clinic employee parking lot and passing the attached ordinance. Alderman Warner. Thank you, Your Honor. Make a motion. We accept and file the report of the committee and pass the attached ordinance. You want to take the next one? That would be 1564. Right. On that I make a motion. We accept and file the report of committee also and pass the attached ordinance. Been moved in second that. We accept and file the RCs and pass the ordinances under discussion. Alderman Warner. Thank you, Your Honor. The Public Protection and Safety Committee for Document 1573 discussed the traffic safety issues on North 25th Street with Mr. Merceburger of the Sheboygan Clinic at our October 30th meeting. The police department's traffic division reviewed the area and brought forth the recommended changes. There's a small strip of on-street parking on the west side of the street that will be added to the no parking stopping or standing regulations. The east side of the street is already designated as such and this will make both sides the same. Up to about where the fire station is beyond that they can park on either side. And in Document 1564 this is a response request from Cindy here regarding the intersections of North 11th Street and North 12th Street with Grand Avenue. Grand Avenue is the street that borders North High School to the North. These two intersections are presently uncontrolled with no stop signs or yield signs on them at all. And it is our recommendation as a committee to add stop signs on 11th and 12th Street at their intersection with Grand Avenue. We always take extra precaution when we look at intersections around our schools and many urban middle school students use these intersections as well as North High School students and the Public Protection and Safety Committee recommends passage. Thank you. Just another discussion. Would you call the roll please? Moody? Perez? Ports? Schultz? Steffen? Teavan Akron? Vanderwheel? Longerman? Warner? Wenninger? Baumann? D-Berg? Eberg? Doyle? Manny? 14 Ayes, 1 Noa. Motion carried. 1638 will lie over. 1639 goes to Public Works. 1640 and 41 lie over. 1642, Public Works. 1643 go to Public Works. Steve? 1644 is a resolution authorizing signing easements for many storm sewer to be constructed in portions of various properties. Public Works. Should become more there. Can I stick them together? Now they're all clipped. All right, 1645 is communication from James Schlegel of Shepoigan Area, Great Lake Sports Fisherman requesting removal of the two-hour parking restrictions along the riverfront boardwalk. Public Protection and Safety. And 1646 is a communication from Ron Sefelt relative to the condition of the property at 1611 North 15th Street. That will go to Public Protection and Safety. Motion before us, seconded to adjourn. Before we adjourn next Monday night, seven o'clock, special council meeting on a budget. Everyone be here at seven o'clock next Monday night. For it's for the hearing. We have to hold the hearing for the budget. Okay, all in favor? Aye. Opposed?