 is on air. And then Steve, you see a little live button in the upper right. Cool. Perfect. Yes, I do. Well, hello. So this is the video version is now live, right? Are we live on AlphaGeek? Yeah, a little. I will have to start at the AlphaGeek or... I can follow those directions that... Thompson, yeah. If you want to do that, that'd be great. Yeah. I will have to start at the AlphaGeek or... I can follow those directions that... Thompson, yeah. If you want to do that, that'd be great. Okay, wait a minute. Are we hearing stuff back here? Sorry, that's me. I actually had the live feed going just to check it. For some reason, even though I muted the audio on it, I could still hear it. Do you know what I mean? Someone has the YouTube page. Yeah, no crap. Is that me? Probably you. It's not me. Ah, here we go. That's me. Do you know what I mean? Someone has the YouTube page. Ha! Closed. Uh... I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Ha! Closed. Uh... Okay. So here's the only problem, is that for AlphaGeek, it's not pretty populating my login. So I need the username... Oh, wait, hold on. Yeah. No, I need the username and password for AlphaGeek. Okay, I'll get it live then. If you already have that, then it'd probably be easier for you to do it. Here it is. It should be Scrape. It says success, so chat room, let me know if you hear anything on AlphaGeek. It's going to be a little delayed from the video. Maybe a second. Hopefully not more than a second. Oh my god, don't break my computer. Literally... This is literally pegging my laptop's processor. I forgot to... Ah... Why is it in Spanish? Why is it in Spanish? What's in Spanish? That is so weird. So I tweeted out the live the link to the the YouTube show and then the seven minutes it followed in Spanish version. Oh, I see, it's just saying that it starts with... That's weird. I have no idea. But hey, DTS 2771 is live. Just click on the link. Watch. Chat room, I have no idea. Wow, I'll tell you. What do you sell odds? We might actually have this thing flying on time, no less. Just remember, don't forget to hit the audio hijacker or whatever you use to record. No, I got Audacity ready to roll right here. And you can hear me, right? I can hear you. I can hear you, Len, yes. Hello, though. Me? I don't know why. I'm going to goose you a little bit, hold on. It's not, it's only important at the beginning of the show. I don't know what you did, but that made it better. I probably just talked loud. I'm sure once everybody is in production voice, it'll be... Justin, do me a favor. When you start, just say, hey, we're going to start and then I'll just hit record on the screen. We'll make sure to say, hey, we're going to start. Say, are you ready? Are you ready? I am going to get these stories up on the screen. Then I am going to hide myself. Are you ready, Dave? So you should still hear me. It's not my audio. All right. So I'm going to go away and if you have any questions or anything, you can speak them out loud and I will try to interject. We have like 60 seconds. Len, if you want to do whatever you do, typically. Yeah, I don't see what he's like. Did I hear... What was that? Was that just a noise on a channel? Yeah, I don't know what that was. It might be my kids in the background. Let me hang on a second. No, it sounded like some kind of interference, but... No. All right. I'm going to disappear. Gotcha. You do have to relinquish... How do I relinquish control to you? I don't know. So wait. What do I need to do? I might still be showing up for people. I just might not be able to see it. You're showing up for me. Okay. Good. Good. Good. Good. All right. Audio levels look good. I think we're ready to roll. Finally, here we go. Yeah. Roger. I think... Did I close the one thing that I needed to not close? Yeah. There we are. I believe we are ready to start. When I first tried the Daily Tech News show, it was so good. I told two friends about it, and they told two friends, and so on, and so on, and so on. It gives me super tech news, super informative guests, and super fresh-smelling hair. To support the show, use the hashtag slash support. This is the Daily Tech News for May 27, 2016. My name is Justin Robert Young, filling in for a off. Tom Merritt, he's taken a day off, but you want to know what the news doesn't stop, and neither do we. Joining me is my old friend, the senior correspondent for Tech Insider, Steve Koveck. Joining us from New York. Welcome Steve. Hey. Thanks for having me. talk about today uh... face book seems to be expanding their ad empire trying to take an even larger uh... position as far as display advertising than they ever really had before as well as so much more and really uh... this is this is kind of a missed opportunity of a day of because steve as you know somebody who has been in the media for as long as you have it's days like today fridays before a long holiday weekend that we normally get all the bad news dump uh... so so i almost feel like we should have some sort of a dendym uh... later in the uh... later in the afternoon when everybody starts dumping bad news right yeah what's four thirty here on the east coast which is about markets are closed so if they're gonna dump bad news it's any second now so i'm i got my one iron twitter just in case uh... something happens uh... while we're talking here but so far nothing yet uh... all right well we will have our our producer roger jeng with an eye out as well and joining us as he does on every friday it is a a nervous yet hopeful cavalier fan len parol to have his team can advance to the nb a final say you don't know i'm doing well i'm doing well it's uh... yes tonight so we're gonna it's we the north will be uh... no more so we'll see how that goes well let's go ahead and see what the headlines these will be announced thursday that it will expand its audience network targeted ad pro a platform that includes users who don't use or aren't connected to face book at all washington post reports that through the use of cookies like buttons and other embedded plugins on third-party sites the company contract both face book and non-facebook users facebook users who want to opt out can do so uh... in the ad section of user settings and non-facebook users will need to go through the digital advertising alliance in the u.s and canada europeans can do so through the european interactive digital advertising alliance much more to talk about this going forward steve any any initial thoughts to face book pushing out forward on this uh... particular strategy uh... my favorite part about this was face book to be p came out and said uh... this is going to be better ads for you like which is what everyone wants to write better ads for them now it's it's going to be more of those ads that follow you around and even worse i mean i guess there are too many people who aren't on face book these days but you know those things that you see that follow you around you look at shoes on zappos or whatever and it follows you to face book and other sites when out face books can be able to predict uh... who you are based on other history and serve you ads that way so it's just going to be even creepier ads following around the internet uh... even on instagram to add now instagram is able to do it so it's going to work whatever after service using it's going to be all over the place i i do think they have an opportunity to slightly lessen the creep factor but we'll get into that later in the podcast roiders reports that according to sources in congress white house and tech sector legislation for a quote unquote back door is dead further the draft legislation by senators burr and feinstein will not be introduced this year cited causes include a lack of support from the administration and house representatives and ambivalence of both the c i a on and n s a on legislation that could interfere with their encryption efforts low the tempest in a teapot that was the apple san bernadino face off seems to have kind of officially now coming gone right steve yeah i think uh... this whole thing and what they realize was they were asking the impossible right the the government wanted this back door while still maintaining some level of privacy and that's just i mean that's like trying to find a unicorn that's just literally impossible to do uh... i think that was kind of obama stance that this kind of there should be a middle ground and there really isn't and i think they probably realize that and scrapped what they're working on for now and going back to the drawing board what's interesting to me is that the n s a n c a a we're like hey we already have tricky ways of finding people by way of of spying on them uh... let's not do anything more official that would compromise or or bring more to like the stuff that we are actually doing which is which is that an interesting state to take ours tecnica is confirmed that a european game studio is developing a vr game set in a long-running established franchise for the xbox one the game will be released on the pc n p s four and uh... is set for a twenty seventeen release uh... that's at least a time frame that our second that gives uh... credibility to the reports that microsoft will be releasing an updated vr compatible xbox one next year uh... you guys attack insider of uh... always have of great gadget coverage you guys have had very good coverage of the commercially available vr options do you think from what you've seen between oculus and vive that a uh... console based vr solution is something that's going to take off yeah and they have to do it because sony this fall is going to release their vr uh... platform is a playstation vr and sony has already outsold uh... the xbox one i i i forget the last count but at least several million uh... so xbox has to do something to keep up uh... what the common speculation is now that uh... the xbox will be able to work with oculus so it's not like they're building their own vr goggles they're going to be able to use one that's already out there uh... they already have a cozy relationship with oculus they give when you buy an oculus now comes with an xbox one controller for your pc uh... so it's not surprising at all what's also interesting though is uh... how uh... video game consoles are getting refreshed more often than they used to be you buy a video game console and it lasts six or seven years now you're getting these minor spec updates you know after three or four years uh... so that and part of that is fueled by things like four k tv and vr so not surprising at all xbox kinda has to do something to keep up with stony and and regained some of the footing it's lost uh... but i if i had to bet it's going to be oculus compatible it's not going to be an xbox one exclusive vr headset or anything like that well and that would seem to be not only the better solution for them in terms of not having to build their own vr compatible headset but also just the easiest way for them to plug in to a rich community exactly there's no reason why they need to build something is probably not going to be as good as that yeah no the big challenges how does that work is oculus you know have has its own store and platform for downloading software uh... so what you know what does that look like on the xbox can it tie into the xbox store somehow there's a lot to figure out that they do go with oculus uh... then again you know we might be pretty close to the time where these virtual reality headsets become commoditized and it's relatively easy for anyone uh... to make them i saw tons of them at c s uh... so it could be a xbox one but i think it's going to be oculus saying in vr z t e announced a new google daydream compatible smartphone the axon seven along with a compatible vr headset known as the z t e v r the five uh... five point five inch phone starts at four hundred fifty dollars united states and features android six point all a snapdragon eight twenty system on a chip and either four gigs of ram or berserk with sixty four gigs of storage or six gigs uh... ram with a hundred twenty eight gigs of storage z d e vr headset has a piece of glass configuration nine access gyroscope in eighteen second delay plus ninety six degree field of view the phone is available in china now and will ship to the united states quote unquote shortly and will uh... tie that as well to this news speaking of the our hp in msi announced wearable backpack pcs that promise to avoid the pitfalls of having cables when using a vr headset hbs offering as part of its own in line and will feature a core i five or i seven processor but up to uh... thirty two gigs of ram and a vr compatible gpu plus a belt that holds two batteries one of uh... one of the cp use and one for the gpu the battery will last about an hour but thanks to a third smaller battery you can hot swap it in for new batteries without turning off the pc msi's version called the backpack uh... pc sports and a core i seven with nvidia gtx nine eighty gpu no word on price or availability on either machine both of these steve seem to be trying to deal with the very very real problem that i am facing right now as a vibe owner i love the vibe i play it almost every day and yet i have a hard time not believing that it is an elaborately constructed death trap which can be asked me to walk around in circles while i have a chord that is not only tied to my feet in my own personal safety but also thousands of dollars of equipment i get a hard time believing that either of these are going to be the actual solution going forward right it it's so early in the space that it's gonna be a long time you know several years before we have the kind of headset that looked like you know standard warby parker glasses that you can walk around with and not look like a total dork with wires coming out of your head uh... so this you know this is like a one-off solution of one of my colleagues in the backpack thing is very interesting i mean it's not necessarily you're gonna be walking down the street with computer strapped your back uh... but it's for things i don't know if you've seen things like the void which is a vr theme park company and they do all these years they do the same thing they have you basically have a backpack tied to you are strapped to your back with one of the headsets on and you can walk around an entire environment which is super cool you're totally free uh... so it's just kind of a hint at where we'll be in five or ten years when they can just shrink it down and become you know super portable but for now yeah you're gonna have to either have a backpack on or slot your phone into it or or some combination of that uh... so you're gonna be tripping around this vr wires for a while yeah i i think my solutions i i'm just i'm just gonna invest in a little pulley like right above me that you can just kind of feed the wires uh... in and out so at least they're not at my feet while i'm playing hover junkers and taking a header into my uh... in into my yeah please please be careful i will i will thank you thank you for your concern cc has made an additional two point five one five billion available for rural broadband projects after voting for the funding wednesday uh... two hundred and fifteen million will be spent each year for the next ten years on i s p's via a reverse auction according to the ars technica and uh... the i s p's who bid must meet any one of four performance tiers a quote minimum tier of ten uh... makes down and one make up with a hundred and fifty gig data per month baseline tier twenty five down three up with a hundred and fifty uh... gigs data per month or uh... hundred down twenty up with unlimited data and the quote gigabit performance here which is one gig down five hundred uh... megabytes up uh... with unlimited data carriers who sign on will need to complete forty percent of the build out within three years sixty percent within four years and eighty percent within five years and a hundred percent within six years no data on the auction has been set in the fcc plans on taking public comment on the auction procedures now channeling the the righteous rage of tom merit who very often will point out that these incentives are good they are very good in theory however what is more important is holding these companies uh... to their promises like of verizon has taken uh... public money and then not built out their files network on the northeast let alone uh... you know some of the other places where they don't already have strongholds uh... do you think that this especially may be focused on rural areas is something that that companies might take more advantage of because it could be creating money where there wouldn't otherwise be as opposed to busier hubs in the northeast i don't know it's i i mean i think you just know that it's it's i mean this rural connectivity problem has has been forever and it's just hard to trust these private companies that they're just gonna go ahead and take these incentives and follow up on it and so like what what i would say is that i i don't know i don't think it's gonna happen and i i i'd be i'm just very skeptical of it and so it sounds great in theory i love the moves fcc has been making these faces recently you know that tom wheeler has been doing great stuff but i i honestly i'm just so skeptical of this and i'm with you on with tom merit verizon worked it before uh... let's let's let's crack down on that before we start talking about new new subsidies to new and an exciting gigabit rural clad uh... connections bbc news reports that apple is fighting a new case against texas base of vernet x who was awarded a six hundred twenty six million dollars in february over patent infringement vernet x wants an additional one hundred ninety million in damages and apple blocked uh... from using patent infringing technologies used in face time and i messaged apple wants the court to throw out the verdict because the u s patent and trade office has already invalidated vernet x patents and a retrial because vernet x's attorney misrepresented evidence to the journey or to the jury uh... and if there's one day we should write up uh... i mean that not really much to say here uh... apple dealing with patent issues apples got a lot of money they'll fight all these things to the end uh... that they don't care i don't think they stand to die anytime sooner police keep your fuzzy warm memories with all of your returning veterans and new born babies don't worry they're all safe face time will still be there for you writers reports that people familiar with the matter the old people familiar with the matter save for rising is working with an investment bank on a bid for yahoo's core assets additionally has added bank of america to its list of investment banks as it works out of to maneuver other bidders ahead of the june six second round deadline rise in yahoo and bank of america all declined to comment uh... it is a day that ends in why and there is speculation on who will buy yahoo uh... not much news here right now uh... it just sounds like it's going to be president doesn't it i mean after all these things it's not between eighteen t dipping its toe and maybe eighteen t is trying to jack up the price and force for eyes of a more who knows it's i mean everyone has it is looking and and there's much like even face book uh... looked around and said no but i mean you gotta do your due diligence when uh... you know something that valuables up for sale so uh... i'm not surprised by anyone who's at least as they're looking around it is kind of interesting on a larger metal level that these telecoms are being as uh... are as interested in some of these online properties that that you know that that they are looking at at their own declining revenues and saying okay well where is the future although i don't know anybody's looking to buy yahoo is looking at you know a big bright blinding beautiful future but thanks to everybody who submitted uh... these stories that we use more subreddit including as we share it in and low key robert if you would like to submit stories or just vote on them serve on over to daily tech news show dot reddit dot com but that does it for the headlines as to our discussion story face book has uh... made a big bold push into selling more ads off uh... selling more ads outside of face book to non-face book users as steve so elegantly pointed out at the top of the show these are those ads that you know traditionally right now you go and you buy a a vacuum cleaner and then for the next three days you happen to be shown other vacuum cleaner ads on on all sorts of different websites that are using these kinds of smart trackers over a hundred companies already serve this purpose but face book says don't worry we're gonna make them better and here's why they're going to refuse uh... pop-ups and auto plays that's their first thing is that they pledged they will that if the ads are going to be there at least they won't be the most annoying versions of them do you think that this is will you let me let me ask you uh... uh... the series of questions do we want better tracking ads me as a user and he has uh... advertiser you as a just uh... as a consumer uh... understanding we need to live in a world tracking ads do we think that they are damaged to the point that we would like new and better but it depends it's like what's your definition of better i mean if to me it sounds like their definition of better is i'm gonna see ads for products i'm likely to want to buy so i'm not going to see ads for uh... i don't know i i'm not a parent so i'm not going to see ads for like baby clothes or you know kids or us or something i'm gonna see ads for iphones and oculus is and things i'm interested in uh... is that better or is it there is a sure yes it's more relevant to me it's stuff i'm interested in uh... but it's also got an extra layer of creepiness to it uh... though you know we already experienced this we you know like i said earlier in the show you go to zappos you go to amazon you go to any of their sites you kind of poke around but you don't buy something you hop into facebook and all of a sudden the ads for that kind of stuff shows up in your feed i was researching a cast for mattress a couple months ago and i still to this day i bought it by the way i bought the cast but still to this day i'm getting cast for mattress ads in my facebook feed i'm getting all their competitors they're just a bunch of cast for clones out there i'm getting sheets like these uber for sheet startups ads so you know that that just gets annoying is that a better experience for me know it's it's actually knowing i already bought the product see that that to me if you want to talk about the annoying level of that you've just nailed it take away the things that i've already bought yet like that i don't have to tell me that i already gave you eight hundred fifty dollars for a mattress yeah oh my gosh alright so here's i think you've already answered my second question so we don't trust facebook to provide that there's no inherent baked in element to how granular facebook can understand your interest that would give them an advantage in giving us better versions of these right it depends like their definition of better means targeted better yes not a better experience and i think no one that'd be happy that there's this beautiful ad in front of them or something now the no pop-ups think that's great there's nothing that annoys me more then and by the way tecno center business center does not do this clicking into a story from twitter facebook and before you can even you read the story for a second and then i had pops up nothing is more annoying that uh... some happy that's part of this program but other than that i mean again better to them it means better targeted that's great for businesses it's great for facebook uh... but there's just it's just creepy is it odd that they even lead with the consumer element because this announcement is really more for people who want to buy facebook ads right they are they are offering the wider wares for the businesses of the world to engage in is it interesting that they even lead with the consumer element of or mention the consumer element of like hey look these are going to be better because as far as the consumer we're not going to know outside of face book what's a face book ad and work serve by one of the hundreds of other companies that do this yeah i mean they made the announcement the wall street journal i think it was so i mean it is like a busy focused uh... story that they put out there you know they tell like gizmodo or the verge of story necessarily uh... you know like a gadget bloggers but this is what i love is what i love having you on here is the kind of stuff that i love to talk about we always can tell more about the story who the sources are talking to right sources that it was officially announced right it wasn't like some bleep thing no no no no no it was it was announced through there but especially when you're doing things through a friendly source but again even talking to the wall street journal as business focused as they are as well read amongst the business community as they are that is still a public thing and it's not like they did it at you know at their own private uh... meeting at some sort of right exactly and you know that you know their clients are going to be uh... reading the journal every day so big name advertisers big name advertised media companies are going to read the wall street journal every day so that's the audience are trying to reach out like hey you know you're already working with us your digital ad spend most of its going to face book anyway and now we have this other great new product we're launching that's going to make the ads even more targeted even for people outside of face book we cracked it we have over a billion users and now we figured out how to get the other two billion people use it and that we figured out how to show them targeted ads so give us more money now let me ask you this when when uh... we know we have gotten into to covering tech over the past decade and then there was certainly this idea uh... about ten years ago of of sites like face book of being uh... this kind of wild west like all you can imagine the different ways that they can monetize these things that this knowing so much about your users knowing exactly what they wanted exactly how excited they are about it based on how much they're liking certain stuff that can open up all these wild frontiers for for how they can charge uh... how they can make continue to make money and yet now we're just kind of back to where we were at the beginning where it's like you know you just sell ads either you build a product that you charge money for or you sell ads or you sell hardware like uh... there's there really there's no revolution we just found a better and different way to sell ads this has been true since the beginning of media i mean how how did newspapers make money they sold ads subscriptions were a tiny part of it uh... how did how did network tv make money days sell ads they breathe you reach this massive scale this massive critical scale and the audience becomes locked in and and addicted and it's so easy to uh... get that money that's what go on facebook pretty much have all the internet advertising spent locked up and and yes i mean it's not surprising at all there's no innovative product here other than they're getting more clever and how to get better ads to people so here's the only most interesting uh... theory and this was a twenty twelve uh... posts by uh... tech crunch uh... where in the positive that uh... knowing that facebook was pushing more and more into serving ads outside of their company possibly a way that they could make their users happier and bring more people into the tent was to either lesson or eliminate in face book ads that that there be a richer prize outside and it would be more important to them to get as many people inside the tent that they could track and that by removing ads that would make it more attractive do you think that this has grain of of of of of a possible up but i think that they're going to stop showing ads in face book yeah that would be the theory of course that they have uh... how many over a billion people looking at the mobile app every uh... every month yeah and constant and most of this people are doing multiple times a day several times a day uh... no that's the most valuable users showing that they're not going to stop showing ads that no answers now it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's i was going to attack rent even link this in their story about it because of course not if you had a look there's a big pile of money outside face book we can make it slightly larger if we gave up this entire pile of money that's already generated all this uh... all this cash inside of our walls now though just you know that will be like the mean and say why not both uh... they're going to they're never going to give up a gigantic revenue stream no of course that this is just uh... and supplemental uh... revenue stream on top to monetize people who don't use face book and like i said i think what they're three billion people on the internet now so that's potentially two billion people that they can reach across the world who are using face book that's great for them i don't even understand i don't even think that if they took ads away i'd be more likely to use face book or i would think that it was a a tremendous value add like you know sure there's ads in face book that's fine at this point i become used to him uh... i don't i don't know how much of a uh... plus moving on to our pic of the day uh... ryan officer sent us this i have a fascination with things that are old especially when it comes to technology so those audience members who share that appreciation for retro tech i suggest you take out check out tech moan on youtube this guy's amazing your views different types of tech but one area i'm most impressed with is his reviews of older tech uh... his videos consist of well-known tech as well as other tech formats you've never heard of heat uh... even does time traveling episodes where he does complete unboxing of really old tech this guy is great he's very detailed and he knows his stuff i highly recommend him cheers again that is tech moan on you too thank you so much for that ryan if you have a pic for us you can send it to feedback at daily tech new show dot com and you can find more pics a daily tech new show dot com slash now do our messages of the day jason from surprisingly warm sydney australia sent us this email i was catching up on episode two thousand seven hundred and sixty nine on my walk to work this morning and just as you started reading through the first emails about self-driving cars i witnessed a minor accident between a taxi and a tiny fiat minimal damage and no injuries to either party but i couldn't help but smile as you finish reading the email the accident was the perfect example of a common situation that would happen far less often uh... one self-driving cars the roads of course for taxi driver probably won't have a job at that point just thought i'd share keep up the good work you jason meredith got three a phd at the university of pittsburgh had this to say about the timing of the angry birds movie there's a sense they didn't expect to say today hey tom in the gang i've been writing in to give you a little background on why the angry birds movie may be coming out i have a uh... media schooler who studies are as middle schooler studies children's media among other things i have three kids under ten while angry birds isn't as popular among adults as it was in its heyday it has remained popular with kids particularly little kids that rovio has quietly become a major kids entertainer well-known for cartoons books toys and partnerships with established but brands like transformers and star wars even uh... angry birds which includes a video section with classic kids shows like wallace and grommett uh... an original rovio productions like piggy tails instella their videos of hundreds of millions of views and they've spun out their video section into a dedicated aptunes dot tv among the under ten set rovio is well known for their cartoons as well as their games so it feels pretty natural for kids to see this movie now other reasons it took so long for the movie to come out include the huge amount of time and money that it takes to produce a high quality animated picture i can't save the movie is good but it does look like it'll be high quality rovio may not have the necessary capital for a couple years and my kids haven't seen trailers for the movie for a solid year it seems i'll probably watch the movie with the kids this weekend keep up the good work i guess the only problem that is i think it didn't do well at the box office but images because uh... meredith and her children didn't see it all right i'm a check in with len maralza out there in cleveland furiously sketching to get his uh... uh... custom art as he does every friday land what we got yes white i drew the main story uh... which you know i'm i'm okay with ads going all over the place that you know i i suppose but you know this is just that a little bit farther uh... of course uh... the images of a non-facebook user who is actually uh... passed away and is getting a uh... an ad for steven justin's comfy caskets pay attention comfy caskets is with a k uh... so you know it's good better for us and the uh... and the tagline is tim stupidly thought he could finally avoid all face book ads so hopefully will come to this but uh... but you know what uh... with face book you just never know you never know so but what those ads are pervasive i i would not be blown away about the next out by south west somebody is telling but uh... screens inside the lids of coffins so you can show uh... the were most relevant ads even in decomposition absolutely the comfy caskets which will be uh... which will be a really well we're already selling those caskets uh... where 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uh... i'm with steve i'm gonna head out alright thanks guys thank you alright uh... thanks hopefully nothing broke uh... everyone just dropped out so it's just me so i have the audio i will keep talking there we go but we're back you're back so good i have a copy of the audio i think i can how do i export this monkey out uh... actions review and finder that would help c okay so i have the audio uh... it was a little bit more inconsistent i had goose uh... steve but people were complaining about it in the chat room cat and i didn't know whether or not it was about alpha geek or uh... the video so i i assumed well i don't know what was i feeding it might have just been on my end i for the most part except for actually you were fine the only thing was maybe steve for my end started a little bit but that seemed more like a connection uh... not even not even a volume issue it's just like he just kind of clipped a little bit because his connection was slow but it wasn't it was actually overall really good so i can take the one i have yeah then let's just use uh... and then i can upload it and you don't worry about it uh... cool well i'm gonna leave this here just on the desktop just in case sorry for uh... using the old frog pants uh... no worries i will am i still locked i'm still locked in awesome i don't have to remember that crazy password so many so many passwords i know they use last pass but that is not my thing i need me i need uh... mnemonic passwords things i can remember all i need to turn off e g r so uh... you know i keep talking if this does everyone really want to listen to me keep talking because it would just be me runway through captured level later where's level later here duty duty just open it p o s this is a thing he had about all this time even though you have an application that you approved before through the security block what you do like a system update it totally forgets everything and then you have three approving thanks beatmaster you've been a big help privacy all of its general thank you uh... justin i have done it without you well yeah now that actually when a little bit smoother than i thought it was going to that was uh... a little paranoid about lake forget i probably forgot something i probably won't forget something open anyway just open it and look guys who went it we we went a whole forty five minutes or whatever without having or with a card-carrying member of the new york tech media elite on the show without talking about peter teal yeah you know we were really debating that i can't you know what you are welcome i mean that is that can be a story for next week it's it's very again tnz but like what what is the future for doctor are they just gonna maintain okay if gawker i mean gawker right now is still looking for to to appeal the decision so so that's uh... that's that that's the next actual newsworthy step and again peter teal coming out publicly in saying that he backed hogan's case and he is backing others that is a noteworthy story deserves to be talked about to be talked about once does not deserve to be talked about for seventeen thousand uh... think pieces and does not need to be looked at as the death of all journalism uh... right cannot level eight let me see so so with my kids screaming next door are her to her can focus on that can focus on the current no head down power through i guess i have to re-download this app was working before now it won't work thanks for that not compatible with all this time eleven no previous you do anything for the long weekend uh... to be honest in in my line of work these days every weekends along weekend it's not like anything's really gonna change uh... but uh... yeah michael in the city dual board game night tonight have a little vr schindig tomorrow nice or they'll be a thing uh... vr party uh... you know i mean we're it's gonna happen tomorrow probably in a stream it so will you not level eight if you do not level eight i'm gonna be very very upset with you uh... in your your schedule for the rest of the summer's good don't see any large absences uh... we're gonna have to juggle stuff in july if uh... the convention stuff comes in of the uh... which convention uh... the republican and uh... if uh... the rnc somehow manages to literally burned down the house oh uh... that's that's the wrong side now man now it's not now the republicans are all falling in line it's it's the democrats that are at each other's throats you know this has to be the most bizarre election in my memory uh... by the way here's the latest on that donald trump is on on jimmy kimmel says that he'd debate bernie sanders bernie sanders is on the next night says he'd debate donald trump they both go on to say hey listen let's do it let's let's have a debate trump verse bernie right uh... and now trumps backed off let's see he opens his mouth before his uh... handletters get a chance to but you want to know what here's the funny thing it's like sense when almost the most shocking thing is donald trump having restrained it's uh... it's you know it's it's gonna be i don't know what to think you know it's there is a there is a definite strain of belief that thinks that he will he will usher in the end time that uh... that humanities rain over this earth will pretty much end as soon as he takes office i mean yeah speaking of pearl clutching i mean listen i'm not gonna vote for tom trump i'm not a particular donald trump fan but i mean i've there's been worse presidents in u.s history uh... i i think so as well uh... yeah we chosen uh... crap let me uh... wait so are you gonna take care of the rest of the yeah you can go if you need to okay well here do we need to pick a title here yes actually if you want to pick a title i'm gonna find a title i'm gonna be back in two minutes so we have what's your definition of a better ad hacking the vr system two certainties in life death and ads virtual death traps uh... and you get ads and you get ads and you get ads uh... by first then you see the ad which i don't know if that is a ring reference and i'm excited about it facebook ads targets uh... pre-holiday bummer news show you get a facebook ad and you get a facebook ad better for whom twenty uh... ten begs better for whom uh... i almost like uh... i almost like the best i feel like that's that's succinct that's pithy so i like better for whom question mark did you find a title that you liked better for whom uh... right cool well if that uh... if that ends my my my hostly duties then i will uh... and i'll be back right here at probably three fifteen an hour uh... for politics politics politics you need one more thing yeah let me keep you on until alright everyone on alphakeek video and audio thank you for watching listening stopping it off right now then i am stopping the broadcast right now