 Daniel and I swin with the black pieces in the Karakar. Now we hear from the very start that one shouldn't move their piece twice in the opening, but clearly your game was breaking all such rules. Okay, I mean this is general rule of course, which often doesn't work. I mean it's for concrete purposes and just chased his queen and I'm fighting for the black square so I wanted to exchange the black square bishop. He also played bishop f4 and bishop h6. I mean, bishop f8, bishop f6, this more or less standard in many games also on Queen's gambit, but okay, knight j8 looks a little bit ugly, but I'd want to move my knight to f5 actually, and then later g5 was an option, it wasn't necessarizing because if I just castle maybe it's equal position, but I thought that g5 was really interesting trying to create some play. Right, so you mean this idea of knight f6, you develop first then you went back to g8 because you want to reroute it to f5, and then you played g5 and bring it to f4. Yes, okay, this wasn't my plan from the beginning because I didn't expect him to play this variation first and then this bishop f4, bishop h6. I'm not sure that ever happened, but I mean it's normal. I'm trying to exchange the queens after which he have absolutely nothing. He put his queen on h2, which is kind of ugly, but okay, he have his ideas, he waiting to enter to c7 for example or to d6, so I have to be careful, but what I don't like is his move before. I mean, it's okay maybe for him, it's really complicated, but I thought it's unnecessary because my idea g5 and h5 and g4 it's little bit too slowly, he always can play knight e5 and I don't really think that I can make him or create some real attack. The plan was that actually to play queen f4 at some moment and exchange this queen from h2 and then I have equal position I guess. Right, now we don't see the Karakan so much at the very very top elite events, why do you think it doesn't have the best of the repetitions? Okay, I have very bad experience myself actually, I'm always losing against strong guy Karakan, for example in the first time I played Dortmund super tournament, I lost twice against first second place, against Karakin and Karoana, both in Karakan in the same variation, by the olympic I decided to play Karakan against Valakitin and I lost as well. Maybe this is the reason why they are not playing this on the high level, but Rezanza for instance, he is not playing all these elite super tournaments, but he won Russian super final which is by far not the weak tournament and he played Karakan all the time so I wouldn't say it's a matter of mode, I mean this is fashion, at some moments everyone starts to play Karakan, at some moments everyone starts to play Petrov or Berlin or whatever. It's actually quite interesting because though you say you lost with the Karakan it seems like all of you know that it's maybe not the best line, but you can't stop yourself from playing it because we see Fabiano has been playing it as well in this tournament. Okay, in those times in Dortmund it was against Karakin, I was just naive because I analyzed something like one hour and I stopped at the moment where his analyze just started and yeah, okay I mean it was possible to save the game but you need to play like 10 or 15 only moves, computer moves, no chance. Against Fabiano I got actually quite good position like out of every opening and he overplayed me and I mean it can happen, if nothing to do with the opening and I limpied my loss against Wallachitian, yeah, he played some strong novelty and I reacted to principle and was crushed out of the opening more or less, but it was principle line with third move E5, yeah, and what Zvagantsov played, Zvagantsov is very original player and it's really difficult to prepare against him because he played like all kind of moves, we know that his E4, C5, Knight A3 for example and against Karakan he played all kind of stuff, he played D4, F3, he played E5, he took on D5, he played Knight C3, he played Knight C3 and Queen A2, third move like every possible random, almost random. So I checked something except this variation, of course like always, but I saw this variation. Happens to every chess player. Yes, yes, but the reason is that I think this variation is really not dangerous for Black, I mean you don't need really to prepare some long lines. It's a positional game, you get this typical structure out of the Queen's gambit and okay, you play, you're shuffling pieces around, I mean there are no big risks that you get mated in 15 moves or something. This was the reason I didn't prepare this variation. I played a lot of games in this variation already, I mean you have some experience. Right, and in fact this idea of G5, Knight G6 putting a Knight on F4 was quite an inspired play from your side in trapping as Queen on H2. It almost felt like a one-sided game. Don't think so, I mean I saw that after before I was quite happy with my position because after rook c8 I have all this, I mean I don't want to play castle long anyway, so rook c8 just logical and then I have this tempo when I play Knight c7, so c3 is hanging, I was quite happy, but it was quite tricky. For instance I think instead of Knight a5 to the end of the game when I played b6, we exchange on c6, he took with the pawn and then I started my attack because all my pieces staying good, I think it works, maybe computer will say otherwise. Instead of Knight a5 I was calculating c4 immediately and the position, I believe that I should be better but it's such a mess, you know, like everything is possible and you miss one move and it's already over or it's white is better, so I wouldn't say that it was one-sided, maybe it looks like, okay we should check with computer of course, maybe it was, but it doesn't feel, no, not during the game. I was quite happy with my position but not that I'm overplaying him, like... Right, of course and now you're here with Ana who's also playing in the tournament as well as your baby, how are you managing? Yeah, the first few days wasn't that easy because we contacted some person from the kindergarten here to babysit our son and at the arrival day they said we cannot, I mean the person said we cannot. This was a little bit critical at the moment but thankfully to wife of Kaidanov she looked for Yosha the first day, the second day Ana took her by and then we get a hint that we should ask the lady from the gift shop and local connection and they found the babysitter for us so she's babysitting now and I will release her soon. Right, so is it like a little bit of a family holiday also? Okay, it's not really a holiday of course, you should play, you should prepare which is not so easy when two years old is jumping all over you but I think it's interesting for him and for us it's a little bit difficult but we don't have much choice in this situation because he is too young to stay at home with my parents for example and so it was the only chance for us to take him with us. Right now of course it is a big challenge to have a two year old with you but does it also help in kind of keeping it a little easy, the atmosphere a little easy because you come back after the game and then you've got this really cute baby around? No, of course, I mean I'm happy that at least one of our child is here and first of all we don't need to worry what's going on at home and of course he's a funny young guy, okay not always of course but often I think, yeah, a joyful kid and yeah I think it's quite good, I wouldn't repeat it a lot we did it already by US Championship the last US Championship I played we even travelled with both kids but I was only babysitting, it was also a little bit difficult but it worked but we don't have too many tournaments when we're both playing actually only Gibraltar and Olympia one in two years and once in two years, yes Right, well despite juggling it all you seem to be doing pretty good five and a half out of seven a great win with the black pieces against never easy to do that congratulations and we wish you all the best for the remaining rounds Okay, thank you very much