 position so literally if I was like hey dude I'm just gonna turn you like this and he was like that big of a scrub all I gotta let him do is belly back down you go defensive position I don't have to take my legs out I can go right back to it and that's essentially what Mitch Clark did it wasn't this move all right but he turned the guy let it belly down turn the guy let him belly down over and over and over again I think it was closer to the first move that I showed all right but this is what we're gonna do we're gonna do a little skill drill I'm gonna pinch his hips with my knees my legs are not in all right I want you to go your left and your right but if I'm going to my right my right hand's pushing down on the mat my left hand's pulling up if I'm going to my left my left hand's pushing down my right hand's pulling up but I'm pinching with my knees so I can control his hips we'll do it with our legs in in a minute what I want you to do is get used to pinching pulling up tight to my chest and getting this guy to roll through so I'm gonna pull and roll okay and I'm gonna go the opposite direction push up pull pinch right here so I'm pinching with my knees I end up back on top of my saddle I'm pushing down pulling up pushing down pulling up rolling side to side