 What but when they walk in, you know, they already did their research They know why they're there and then when I start speaking about it that puts them at ease You know just first glance no one takes me seriously Man, I'll take you serious as hell you coming at looking at me telling me this is wrong with me I'm gonna be serious. You got that white coat on. I know what is going down. I don't like wearing my white coat That's what really scared a hell out of me wearing my white coat Right it makes you nervous. It may it puts the wall up never wear my white coat Damn white coat man. It's your old dupe. You feel like you fit it. I don't know I have a very small team of people that believe in me That really see my vision and believe in that vision. So my little sister is my Everything actually she runs the practice Pretty woman get up in there like that. I don't know. I'm trying to figure that out It's hard to get the older men to take me seriously. I'm serious What but when they walk in, you know, they already did their research They know why they're there and then when I start speaking about it that puts them at ease You know just first glance no one takes me seriously Man, I'll take you serious as hell you coming at looking at me telling me this is wrong with me I'm gonna be serious. You got that white coat on. I know what is going down. I don't like wearing my white coat That's what really scared a hell out of me wearing my white coat Right it makes you nervous. It may it puts the wall up. Never wear my white coat Damn white coat man. It's your old dupe. You feel like you fit it. I don't know Nervous as hell it does it really does and you could down with some patients have white coat syndrome So you take their blood pressure. It's super super high and it's a real thing I think it really puts it puts a wall up. I can't you know, like we're Talking to someone that's this, you know God or they think they're God and then it's that's why I scooted my chair closer Well with her friend Tiffany didn't have a white coat on what's going on. Tell me what's going on. Wow I want to ask you about Just really the way you know It's a crazy thing. I just had this phobia when I go I fell out when I was little when I got a shot and I ain't never been the same since I go in there But it's like damn and you gotta understand when both of your parents died in the hospital after surgery It sends you to a place where you don't trust no more. I'm being real with you And I'm like I'll just fall dead on the in the front yard I can do better than they did. It was looking good when they went in there, but then when they came out It was a one didn't live long after and the other one of dead the next day So I'm just saying like that's a that's a big deal for me. I don't know about other people I hope somebody getting this, you know I'm saying but when when I went to talk to my dad He was doing just fine. I was like man, you know, you sure about this and he's like, yeah I'm gonna do it and I'm like, okay, so you're gonna do it. Okay, you know, I left that the hospital that night and Because I had experienced something early on with my mother. I was like this dude is tripping like wow I wouldn't do it. I'm being real in my mind. That's the way I felt and the next day he was dead. I'm being real So this is the kind of thing that makes a person when they do go skeptical What people are doing because my biggest misconception I want people to get this Yeah, you can help me But what if you don't what if you don't work What if my other partner he and I'm just giving you worst-case scenarios and he owns a pain body shop He'd been there for years. She know what I'm talking about before he died. They cut both his legs off He didn't make it This is just happened by two months ago, which I can't say his name I like to say this name But I'm just telling you when you hear these stories and then you've been through what I've been through It's like they just poking their head out at you And then my wife had to force me to go a lot of times, you know what I'm saying? So I'm just telling you from a perspective of a person just opening up about personal Ways that you feel like man I go, but I don't feel comfortable and I go I'm being real So you're I hear a lot of what ifs. What if I don't make it out? What if they don't do a good job? They didn't make it out. You know, what if my mom didn't make it out my dad didn't make it out But what if my friend didn't make it out? That's all I'm saying. What have you gotten a car wreck on the way there? You still could have went. Yeah, so but The cutting the legs off and all that stuff to save him and then it don't work. That's a horrible way to die That's all I'm telling it. So and it's a trip because and I'm gonna let you down. I Just see when you cut somebody whether you cut them on the street. So if you cut them in the surgery You still cut them So I don't have any scalpels in my facility so that I'm not cutting but what your friend experience sounds like a Condition that really affects a lot of Americans specifically the black community And that's peripheral arterial disease. So I mean we grew up in the US, right? Like we eat burgers. Everyone has a little bit of fat in their blood vessels and That fat can kind of narrow the blood vessel a little bit Like I said, I don't want to scare people I was telling you about my experience You know what I'm saying? All I'm telling you is and you right Let's talk about that. You said in the black community. They'd be chopping off stuff. What is that? So when the fat kind of narrows a blood vessel, you're not getting enough blood down to your legs And so when that happens your body has to start conserving, right? So kind of the first thing you get is you're walking and you get a cramp or Your toe starts turning a different color And so all of that is because of what we call peripheral arterial disease That's fat in the arteries and that can calcify And so one of the procedures that I do because we do everything with the blood vessels I'll go in there through the IV find the area. I'm like a glorified plumber Find the area that's kind of blocked off And then I have a little fat shaver that fits through the IV and then I'll take out all the fat Use a little balloon to open up the vessel to what the size it should be and then the blood flows here legs is restored So if you're able to do that, then you avoid an amputation Yeah, so interventional radiology one of our hashtags is hashtag stop the chop. Wow We believe really strongly in that it shouldn't you shouldn't go straight to the worst case scenario with you You know it you you shouldn't have to go straight to someone cutting, right? And if that's what you choose then okay But you have to know that there's other options see all the options and then you pick the one that's right for you As long as the knowledge knowledge is key knowledge is key. Wow, but you see when you think about The fat like what you were talking about. I'm thinking about so does that have to do with how they eat? Lifestyle so it's just getting older, you know, okay, I have fat in my blood vessels I'm sure okay That's the reason why I'm asking that because then when I see people who do all these different surges for all these different things to Remove this fact, but they go back to eating Whatever and however and don't really try to take care of their bodies because they know that I've heard people I promise you who tell me oh, I don't even work out I eat what I want if this happens. I just go do another surgery Exactly. Yeah, because you do get it kind of a new lease on life, right? And I tell my patients like this is not just because you have a new lease on life Doesn't mean you go back to your old ways because you're gonna end up right where you were and The procedure gets more and more difficult for me the more times that I have to go back in and fix it To the point where there's one day where I'm not gonna be able to help and you have no choice But to go under the knife