 We talk about everything in hip hop culture on the mic and off brand man how you feeling today my brother good good man happy to finally get this live stream shit right yeah it took us a minute to figure this shit out but thank god you know hopefully this shit goes smooth yeah shout out to Corey man we did the session live stream that's where I kind of worked out a lot of the kinks out figured it out so Corey appreciate you bro what topics we got today all right so really I want to open it up with this little Nas X story you know you probably familiar with it but pretty much this dude I really wasn't familiar with the dude prior to this story I'm gonna be real with you people you know at my job I would have informed me that you know there's a guy on Twitter and he's kind of a troll in this and the third yeah after I heard the record solid record the fact that it got solid record breath I mean I mean I'm not gonna lie but that shit is the hardest fuck I was laughing at first and then this beat that bass drop around like oh shit yeah man so here's the thing man a lot of people been chiming in but here's the thing if our music you know our if our interpretation of what a country music a country music country record sound like isn't gonna be respected then we need to take ownership in our charts that's the problem right now rap is really friendly rap is a very friendly genre we let everybody in but when it comes to these other genres they protecting what they feel like is true country rock whatever music and it's a double standard it's a double standard going on and hip hop needs to kind of step up and kind of take some some some ownership in and kind of like you know I so should I go deep with it or take notice level okay I mean when you go into the like the genre and the way you're talking about people being friendly and everybody else protecting their culture first thing I honestly thought of which I had heard this this early this week I never thought about it is like isn't that like black people in general though like everybody else is good all these other categories or specialty like groups of people they are good at like no this is that so we aren't gonna be we're not gonna be tolerant of this and we're gonna come attack you guys if y'all if y'all violate but you know we we we're a little friendly we're very forgiving as a as a overall people you might have a problem and that's why I mean I don't know we share too much I mean how many genres that we already given up anyway right we gave up rock and roll right we gave up house music right if you came up in 2000 you probably think house music comes from like Europeans or some shit like that you know that's us you know one thing I told my brother one thing I told my brother I'm like yo hip hop is Brooklyn if you're familiar with Brooklyn I thought it was the Bronx nah nah nah what I'm saying what I'm saying is more of a metaphor so yeah in the Bronx for sure okay if anybody if anybody follow if anybody in this chat is from Brooklyn they know that Brooklyn today in Brooklyn 20 years ago is like two different worlds because of gentrification okay hip hop has been heavily gentrified to the point where um we don't really have no say in nothing we don't have no say in who gets a job we don't have no say in who stays who doesn't we have no say in nothing and the thing is that's a problem especially when we're not invited to go into these other genres and say hey can we do this can can we give our interpretation of this genre we like this music too but for some reason that I haven't seen identified um his music isn't respected as a as a country record and I don't really understand do you do you know what the technical reason what the press release was as to why this song what's taking off I mean too much 808 probably I don't know bro I really don't know because Kante why I mean he talked about a horse I don't know man like because I like I come from back around where I like genuinely enjoy like a vast array of music I like I know a lot of people say country music is trash I fuck with a lot of country music honestly um and as a matter of fact if you look at hip hop there's a lot of current low-key country influence in hip hop now because of Kanye and it's mostly around hooks right Kanye came out and said like early 2000s um that how like he loved country music or he used country music basically for the melody and hook and you hear that and think about Kanye stuff and then think about how Travis is off shooting of Kanye and then you think about other people who are inspired by uh Travis so it's interesting that you have like once again us accepting um stuff or uh we'll be putting things in there slick I don't but I don't really care about like the technicality of why it is or why it isn't because you know at the end of the day genres are a little theoretical it's subjective blah blah blah I I just don't I'm just mad because I didn't even know you could do that shit right that's what I'm mad up because if you if you look at the top tracks on um hip hop charts right now right bruh like they aren't like the top two or three tracks um I was listening to Joe buttern somebody uh earlier this week I think and they were talking about the top track was like this track from spider man post Malone in uh what's his name is it Sway? What's the dude from Ray Sherman? Oh Sway Lee? Yeah Sway Lee yeah post Malone Sway Lee a little pop little kitty track you know um the second one on the track is post Malone which is more of a hip hop record but it's still like all right it's post then a third one then it then a middle child is like number four which is true you know right right so that's the problem man and to sum it up you know really what it is is that hip hop was a genre that started in the Bronx it grew 1979 first you know record on the charts then 1980 Curtis Blow then you know Grandmaster Flash all of these guys sparking run DMC comes through they sign in the D this dude this changes the game it's now blowing up you're getting rock hips you're getting big daddy canes you're getting the ice cubes the NWA's it's going crazy you get the MC Hammers the guys who have a number one number two hot 100 record this is where the split happens this is where you have three different coaches really going on you have gangster rap you have backpack rap guys who listen in the tribe and guys who listen in the main source and then you have the commercial rap lovers mostly white people they like MC Hammer they like vanilla ice they and maybe ice cube so so then what really happened is in 1992 death row breaks through the chronic Snoop Dogg sells millions of records and this is the first time really gangster rap backpack rap and commercial rap were kind of all bundled together with the crowd like the chronic was a type of project that really serviced all of these fans at one time it didn't matter what type of hip hop you like you like gin and juice you like uh you know uh all of them records everybody smoked basically at this time at this time everybody saw this as a great thing everybody looked at Snoop and looked at Dre like rappers are getting rich and being real at the same time this is crazy this is crazy so they would sign these deals they would sign away their record companies and this was the end of the black owned record company this was like when the the curving point started happening where in the late 80s when everybody was wearing black green and red everybody it was tons of black owned record companies you had uptown records by 1995 uptown records don't fold it yeah you got bad boy records but they owned by arista records which is owned by you know so it's like at the end of the day everybody saw that commercialization of hip hop it's like wow we made it and we did make it but 25 years later we're seeing that fully grown monster and what that actually looks like and people didn't really weigh the cons all of the way I think way back in the in the late 80s and early 90s. The biggest con of what you're saying right now is basically that argument for assimilation representing a loss of power over time. The loss of power over time for a family? My biggest like I think a lot of that is I like I agree with a lot of that my biggest problem right is kind of like how we talked about like black people giving up like the things that they create and I mean that's what the whole music industry is right artists giving up things that they create from its onset now it's trying to change whatever but I think it won't change anytime soon because the same shit that makes black people so great at creating culture is the same thing that keeps us from maintaining it and honoring it like it's the same reason we look at house a lot of times or people starting to look at house as oh that's old that's what right black people they don't like old shit bro you you you get new houses in a neighborhood bro like they're they're gonna move to the new you know all this is new it's not better necessarily it's not brick houses it's a wood house but it's new it's clean right and like it's that we that innovation like that innovation mentality that the culture has that's why we're so finicky right and you that is what have you done for me lately and that that forces us to create new stuff be different right we quickly getting this taste from things that feel old or feels like everybody are doing is doing right but but that same thing that forces you to innovate it also you know it also causes you to not be able to honor uphold the legendaries that have already happened and in order to work and put it in and now other people say oh shit it's still like a lot of money to be made here it's still a lot of foundation here let's let's go build on this ground so we lay the foundation and they build we lay the foundation they build that's the problem with that with that right now yeah yeah agreed