 Big shit, big shit, big shit, big shit, huh It's a unique hustle, big shit, big shit, big shit, huh Name another podcast like this Who gon' burn it to the tape, boss top Who your girlfriend fave, boss top We gon' do it how you want Check it, check it, check it, this is Unicode This is your boy, E.C.O. And I'm here with the lovely, amazing official Mr. Maker, what's going on? Nani, Nani, no, my dad will walk on. Man, hey man, you know we still down here in New Orleans, man, and hey man, we going into everybody's hood, man We trying to find everybody and the streets is talking, man They say go this way, go that way And you know what I'm saying? We went the right way, man We over here, my boy Paco is in the building What's going on? Wow, what's happening, man? How that intro be going? You know what I'm talking about, man? I just get into it, man, cause it's real, man Like, you know, when I came down here I ain't know, you know, I'm like Who am I gon' see, man? Who am I gon' get to talk to, man? New Orleans is lit, you know what I'm saying? What all they got? The Jazz Festival, it's three different festivals going on, right? That's what we heard. What's all going on in this town? Jazz Fest weekend, this weekend is why the hotel room is so fucking high that's y'all paid for it. Is that how it works for you? Yeah, it's all popping, right? I know, like, it's popping like everybody in the streets Yeah, right So it's not normally that high? Not like this weekend, but, you know gentrification got shit high. Right. Say, man, so just tell us, man, a little bit about yourself, man just growing up in New Orleans just give us an understanding on like how you was raised, what neighborhood? Like, we're not from here. I mean, shout out to Dallas, Texas we out of Dallas, but they're my wife from Jamaica being I'm from the country but we've been in Dallas for a long time. So just give us a spiel on like how it was and then I'm gonna pre-Katrina and post-Katrina too. Okay, New Orleans, from my perspective New Orleans, you're asking me like how it is now? No, how it was when you was coming up as a kid like where did you live? I grew up in Uptown. I grew up Uptown. You was Uptown. I grew up Uptown. Okay And, you know, I was my family from Uptown my dad and my mama, we come from that way. So we grew up in the Cali area. So that's the same area, P from that the Cali, we think about Master P Give a fuck about, nigga starting on that water wall Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were always listening to Master P like this dude was different, man for us, like when we first started hearing him say one and nine and nine and all this you know, it was different for, and I remember that time but so for you, it was a different time you've seen a different Master P, right? Like the first Master P I seen when he was on top, you know? Exactly When I was a kid, they were on top they were running and everything So how did that make you feel to know that you were from the same place where Master P was from? Let's be real I felt like I was a part of No Limit I felt like I was there I felt like I was Really? Yeah, like you know You like this, he from here Just like everything that go really big everybody feel a part of it You know, it's like, wow Yeah, I'm No Limit Not just they don't let me I'm No Limit Yeah, I felt like that as a kid So, and basically coming out hearing the stories about you knew it, you was young but as he lost a brother named Kevin Miller and I know because you said, you know he always would say his name's in the song and that's how he kept him alive so to speak just his name so that people will remember him And so you being a young kid you know, you come out then you hear about the sea murder you know, like his brother being gone like all these stories you hear in them and then the judicial system and all that stuff What are you thinking? To me it's normal because you don't know nothing else Okay That's all you know So it's like, I don't think nothing I think this is what life is I think this is like everything you think that's what it is Okay, I get it But you know, there is a lot of killing that's jacking, carjackings right now all of that However, there is another side that we don't really talk about because everybody in the hood ain't killed five people this year You know, you would be led to believe everybody on it Oh, it's hard And that's real but it ain't just that They're like, put your wallet in your front pocket down there because they tripping over there on French quarters You know what I'm talking about? I've been in my whole life, man I have never had a problem and I go anywhere I want That's cause you run Come on, man, you Come on, man, come on You run the city like Pete did, he did It's just about how you move it So you know, it's got to be in you If you got that, yeah, it's how you move it It's got to be in you, not on you You know this because you you know what it is to move up and down French quarters and all It's like, you're just being around you earlier You like when you go place, you already, you know people know Yeah, it's always like that Yeah, so that's that's cause you you know, you knew Orleans Yeah, yeah So when you first heard about the like the the same What was it? What about Birdman's movement during the Highboy era? Did you know a little bit more about that? I didn't know more I mean, so when that started I do think that took it to another level You know, cause No Limit was crazy with their sales But the Highboy's was like Kid Backstreet Boy from the hood group or something Yeah You know, the boys was like They were lit Yeah, it was like that level So I remember they had Teen Summit at Teen Summit was what we used to have when I was small Okay But like all the artists performing in No Limit and Cash Money And I remember I'm always No Limit So I'm always like No Limit But I remember my auntie said No Limit was good But when the Highboy's got up there, it was over, Paco She was right They had the city up They had it was another level It's because they they they had came in after You know, you got to realize I remember Body Body when it first came out You got to understand I was wrong when it came out And it gave a certain feel And this is something that you can't touch You can't you couldn't tell me Hey, man, nothing during that era was better Than what PNM had did King George and all of the KLC Beast by the pound All what they were doing It was remarkable Like we was watching it, man And man, it was the thing that was magic It was Mr. Magic Yeah, Mr. Magic It was it was a bunch of manfiends You know what I'm saying It was going down Soldier Slim But then Fast forward to 19 About 97, 98 These niggas came out Talking about, man In my ice top, he bezzled up And my pinkie will be thrilled And they were steadily telling you about everything they got Everything they got Sucked up Like like I got all this niggas And my ice can be bezzled up I'm a good I'm a bus And all I'm like, you know, I'm a All this crazy stuff, you know And I said, damn, what is this? Man, I love Stunner as a rapper I did not know what the hell it was I'm just giving you I'm painting a picture for you Yeah, I'm listening During this time, I had been a little bit I had to sit down for a second I had to sit down for a second I come home and I'm like, what is this? These niggas stripping I think just they were ambitious Birdman Talking that ambitious You were about to say you like what Because a lot of people talk about Birdman Why he can't rap, why he just talking But it was something about the way he would say things That made me love what he was saying Because it ain't just what he's saying It's his attitude in that In music, you feel it more than you Sometimes you feel music, you don't You're not saying it per se, but you just feel it Like if I say, ah You know, you just I don't have to even explain what that means, you know Yeah, yeah And Stunner do that Like he just loved it, bro Because he really feel like he came Not to be fucked with, you know No, no, he can't even come across No, no, no, no No, it's for me It's real No, I know, but I'm saying He had to think that And then you think it because he thought it so much I think it because I think it because he proved it The way he carried itself The things he was doing The way he came in the room The way he stood on the stage I seen that nigga come to Dallas, man And I seen that it was at a car show, right? Yeah And this nigga was supposed to be up there on the stage, right? Yeah And then niggas say, you know what, man He say, man, I come down here to Dallas, Texas, man And ride with you, boys I'm gonna get out here and go look at some of these cars Now, you got all these people in here He didn't have to do that But you don't know what these niggas got You don't know That nigga came and walked in the whole crowd As he would move, was just moving with him And that nigga did not care about none of that Nothing, he just That's hard, bro It is Or when he came to Vegas, if we was at Magic And we had Magic or whatever And that nigga come in the room And that nigga energy right You see what I'm saying? You can't make this up, bro You can't make it up So that was a heavy part So these, I was just saying, are two different phases And let me shut up Because let me say something to my people That be following my channel We get excited over here, right? And we start talking because I love music And I'm here to kick it with Paco And I'm in New Orleans just so y'all know And they be like, man, the interview it is And I don't give a damn Let me say that right quick Because I'm here to have a good time I'm glad you said that because I love music, too Yeah, I'll be excited I know music Music itself is crazy being a person who do music Sometimes that's not even What people are caring about, the music It'll be like, that'd be like the last thing to worry about We could go shop it The music is the last part of the process Like if you think about it Yeah, it is We could go to sex and get poppin' musically Some people don't know You know what I'm saying? It's going to have fun It's going to have fun Yeah, and that's cool You know, you could go Your outfit might make your music better It's crazy But tell me how that phase was Where did you... Oh, go ahead I was going to ask about that phase for him Before we get out of it With the phase in and phase out After your aunt With your mom, your mom After she told you that After you heard the bird man The hot boy That was my auntie, though Your auntie She said that And you say, yes, you're right How did... How did... He's like, damn Nah, I kind of... I wouldn't... I wouldn't do it, man, I didn't Cause... It's still Luzi It's still Wallace Yeah, and... A part of me liked it, too So, like, you know, like... Like, yeah, I really... I can't really hate this, you know I wouldn't hate knowing it Maybe a little, but then I was like Yeah, I like it, too I can't even fight it Like, this is just the way it is So, that was the time when BG And all of them was together It was my favorite hot boy, BG Stop it, BG, the one For me Chopper City? For me, that's my favorite one Cause any from Chopper, where's Chopper City? He from Uptown Uptown, okay So, when he did... Okay, I loved the... And I'm not gonna stay on this long But them boys... They did good And then they got into it They would have the differences That's everybody And then they tried to blame Birdman Which, that pissed me off Cause I'm a boss, so... When you go at Birdman, it's like You're going at me I don't play by Birdman I don't care if it's Jay-Z I don't care who it is I don't care if it could be anybody She know this, cause she hear me talk all the time I don't play by Birdman, doubt I really don't play by people in the south But I don't play by them Like, you can't talk about them to me I'm with you You better find somebody else to talk about them with Cause I'm gonna tell you a lie You can't do no wrong I'm with you But so, let's talk about... Whatever, Mr. Maker wanna talk about now I'm with you, I'm with you Now, the only thing I was thinking, so... When did you finally find your love for music? When did you start taking it serious, I should say? I've always loved music I mean, since I can remember I love music, I don't even... That's something I can't think of But when did you start taking it serious? Cause you can love music But when did you start to take it serious? As in, this is what I really wanna do I'm gonna say When I took music seriously, it's when I was with Young Greatness I don't know if you knew that What? Yeah, so... Bro, I just asked somebody I was like, find Young Greatness, family, somebody I wanna interview them Are you serious? Not by blood, but we like brothers So, me and Greatness were sitting in the house Me and Greatness were sitting in the house and just like Make music like 20 songs, you know And kind of like a sibling rivalry It's like, I wanna just fuck him up every day We stuff, you know, every time we do this I'm trying to like be better than him, you know And he talk a lot of shit Is he older than you? Yeah, he older He talk a lot of shit So, you know, it was always like sparring, you know And he was kind of... I always felt like he couldn't fuck with me on the songs But he could definitely talk a lot of shit And get shit going from that perspective I'm gonna just talk shit and get fly I was trying to like get on these songs and go crazy, you know Wow, I just was talking about him on the way down here I was talking to, I think it was Jida What's his name, Jida P? I was asking him, I was saying Do you know anybody from Young Greatness Because he passed away, got killed, you know I was like, do you know you was probably... We was driving now, I was like Do you know anybody from his family? Because I wanted to talk to him, you know what I mean? Because of his legacy Because of who he is and because of what he does That's not a deep thing But to the question you're asking That's when I took it seriously because he took it seriously Okay He took it down first, you know He was really like really doing this Like I mean in high school I remember he opened up for a LaWayne concert at the... Down the street from here When he was in high school, you know, like And you know, so it was like He was pushing for this before I was I just... I just loved the music before he did But he really gave it a push first Because I remember him first rapping for me And then we kind of like was fucking with him about rapping Because I'm like, I rap all the time Nigga, you just started this Like I was rapping, you know I don't have a start of rap I was rapping Your whole life Yeah, I don't remember not rapping Yeah, yeah, that's dope Yeah So he's one of them ones When they saw that Moola get that man This nigga's man, that song... Listen, bro, when I started watching him I fell in love with his style, bro And it was just a heavy song All my life I hustle just to get that Yeah, it's kind of soulful It's kind of... Yeah, he hit me, bro He just made me feel like He really gave it all for what he wanted Like I mean This dude was literally Possessed by what he wanted You know, he was different Than a lot of us at that age I wanted to just rap I wasn't even thinking about it He was like Going Rapping, going to the studio Getting this shit pressed up, you know He was talking He just Like stunning them He just had He had that I'm gonna beat a shit I'm going Just a different energy at a younger age Than most of us did Did you... Okay, you... How did you and him First, y'all going to school together? No So His... Now he older than me Okay My mama ended up living in Gentili Okay Directly across the street from his mom Okay How was y'all... How was he? He was in high school And he was in junior high I was like something like junior high And y'all just always would talk We were brothers Like literally his grandma would talk to my... His mama would go by my grandma We lived next door to us at that time Where... I'll ask you that off the line Because I really... That's serious with me I definitely would love to talk to his people You know what I mean? Just because I know that that's gonna push the legacy even more His mom Who's family to me She is... Still really Frustrated about a lot of stuff So that's why It's kinda hard I could talk about it probably for her Okay It's gonna be hard for her to talk What is the... What is the frustration? She feel like the city Has shit with it and not... You know? Like they knew what was going on with it She was on the news in New Orleans saying New Orleans just fucked up And you know Just frustrated and rightfully so Yeah, but that's so soon Hold on, hold on, hold on Because I don't know anything about this So y'all have to film me How did he pass away? He was killed At the Waffle House or something Yeah And how long ago was this? This was about... Two... Is it two... I don't know now 2017 2017 And they don't know who did it? What they got guys who was arrested on it I don't know, you know? Yeah It's just something that when you lose a son Yeah And you're from a city that's supposed to embrace that son That's the part, you know what I mean? And he's doing it for the city That's the part right there And you're supporting the city showing them love And they acting like they love But you gotta always remember In the midst of that love is some hate Yeah, it is You see what I'm saying? The love can oversaturate you With this love thinking everybody love you But a lot of niggas hate you It was like somebody told us the other day Like y'all got y'all haters because people see you And they see you movement And some people just not gonna like that Because they wish they could be you A lot of times I don't know man, but I just... So Young Greatness was a dope artist from New Orleans That I followed That I... You know how I am about music I don't even have to say it I just love it, bro It's the same He's such a strong personality We would always like go at it You know, always That's good But when he got that deal He called me and he took me to Atlanta Not Atlanta, we went to South by Southwest Okay, in Austin And that's when I'll get there And it's like Rista Kid, it's Migos And it's like... I forget some of the other dudes that was there Skipper the Flipper At this time, you know And then he has... He playing records for me And I hear him move like this one I'm hearing him thinking this could work But I'm also like just listening to songs And we just... So to see what that did You know? After he was just buffing that song And I'm just listening to it And then it just... It went Then I'm used to it by myself And it's like I'm waking up and it's playing You know, I'm just... And I'm like... You know, it just thought to become real Right And he texted me I'm like, dog I've been to several places in Houston And they keep playing that record And it's like All they just thought to like feel real Because that man dedicated His life To like really making music work Wow You know For real I could feel it I could feel it because I could tell In his cadences In the way that he was delivering this stuff He put his heart into it He's ambitious too He would just... Because I love the music more than he loved the music Yeah What? You call him? That's my... We call him Teddy Okay Teddy would... He would go to the studio And knock that shit out And he would say The video gonna be so good I'm having so much fucking fly shit They gonna let that shit It was kind of like It was a game with it And ambitious start more so than like I thought I wanted to make the fucking best music And he like that It's a movement It's exactly And he understood that too Because you know most of us love rapping Everybody rapped When you got drunk and rapped And you just... Everybody has rapped Everybody has a style and they love it But for somebody who wanna like pursue it It's like I'm gonna fucking have a press kit I'm gonna have... You know He was on that type of way And you said something earlier about Birdman That's why you felt like that about him Because of the movement The way he was pushing the narrative That's another reason why And I hate to keep going back to Birdman That's why I don't play about him Because when I see a Drake Or when I see a Nicki Minaj Or when I see a Lil Wayne I think about Slim and Baby And I think about the business heads I think about what's going on on the behind scene That people are not even caring to think about Yes You need all of those elements In order to make this work And I think people don't really Respect that part enough They just see the lights And you know everybody love the flashy lights And they don't think about what's going on In the infrastructure Yeah, I agree So that's important, man So this young Grayness dude He was before his time too He had a movement down here And I hope somebody recorded Like in a book or something To make it sure that it stays I always say I'm the only one that could tell the story Well, that's why That one who was at the session Nobody else was there? Not as much as me Like I mean some people probably was there at times But I was there from the beginning of it From the beginning Till Moola came out So let me ask you a question Where were you when you heard about him being killed? In the bed I got a call from a friend Who lived in a Gentilia area He called me in the morning And he told me what happened And I fucking get up And I'm like because We always had our times of like friction You know That's brotherhood Yeah exactly So it's like I couldn't believe that's just why I got up I just get out the van I'm like what the fuck is this for real? Then my mama called me And I'm like oh yeah this is for real You know So it was at the Waffle House I remember the morning happen I remember hearing the news But when you hear something like this And it's so close to home Not only home But just being a part of his life Like that and his legacy Yeah Do you What do you How do you just How do you how you process it You see what I'm saying I think about it A lot I think about a lot A lot I think about it from a lot of different ways Yeah I think Sometimes I think Crazy as it sounds Teddy would prefer to go out Swinging that for everything he wanted to fucking become And he wouldn't have ever settled for anything less You know I think he put it all in the line That I really do So it's like I don't see him not going all out in life Or like he would have had to like be running some shit You know he was gonna have to be stopped Like he just that type of person He just He was never going to be an average person Since he was a baby He's just not like that He just too he wake up like I'm going to like Be great Yeah like for real The name was young great What's the thing that you got from him With his journey The things that you You know you were hanging with him so much Yeah What's the thing that you saw you learn And that's what you took and implemented it in your life In your journey Yeah I learned just that I said I was always great with music and creativity I'm an artist Like I'll make a we'll write I don't just like do music I would like Help formulate to how to beat come in Or I'll sit down with the producer And tell him damn that how this shit gonna go And I'll do the verse I'll arrange just tell him how it arranged So I'll just do what I want Like so with all of that I like I'll do a video I'll help direct it Or I'll sit down with the videographer And say no that's not right That's how I want that you know So I'm more of an artist He was more of a personal show me that That's a mix of just being an artist And making this shit big And I think it shift my perspective from just I could create something amazing today But it's a different thing and Literally you could make something average do great Yeah that's right If you have the The if factor The if factor are just a Are just the confidence in that Are you gonna just Are you gonna just be more enthusiastic about that You could just be like No this song might be average of you But if you rap it hard enough in front of enough people What and you believe is great They themselves don't believe in this dude It's great You know I saw that you know like yeah That's why we rock like on boss talk Like the same thing pushing the narrative And being consistent That morning when you heard about it You know and after that Just going through life Like did they arrested somebody But was it I mean was it a beef that was literally going on That the streets knew about Or was it just some random people that just Cause some people get called slipping You know what I mean Like he got money Like I'm the type of nigga you gotta move different Cause you know niggas watching Cause they know you're the nigga in the city with it Or is it a situation where it was some people Enemies or something that That Or was it random Cause it was early in the morning right It was that night Well it's early in the morning Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah But I don't know I don't know Yeah because you and him wasn't talking before this We always talk But we always don't talk I don't know like you know We always talking We always don't talk You know Yeah Cause he has strong personality It's like And he talk a lot like bitch Like he talk like that Like bitch That'd be like Somebody could have too He could have came off wrong to the wrong person I have no idea It just it wasn't nothing that you could have ever seen coming It's what I'm trying to figure out If he wanted to talk like I got niggas in the streets That you know if something happened to him Like that nigga was warned It always was into something But then I have also niggas that Something happened to that That they got the wrong guy He ain't even about like that I mean you see what I'm saying Yeah I get what you're saying I don't I don't know He wasn't What's he up He wasn't a person who He wasn't He was my homie So he was never like Somebody who Wait Do no shit Or it's like You with him and you think he gonna bust a nigga head Or something You know it's never that situation That's what I'm talking about He kind of cool But I don't know I got niggas that I mean you know me that At the same time he talk shit He talk his shit People talk shit People I don't I don't know the situation I'm just saying Yeah yeah yeah I literally don't know I get it I get it I'm just saying Because you don't know what the streets were saying You don't know what Who was there that You know the work got around So we just We don't have thoughts But I don't I don't like the speculation I don't know No you can't If you don't know Yeah I don't know Yeah you can't speak on thoughts But my thing is like Like I got niggas like That really be in them streets Like That's always into something Now he ain't that He man like that Now you see what I'm saying Then it's niggas that He's like damn They pull this car too fast You know what I mean Like it's certain Certain people that That are just great people And that The devils are looking to Try to figure out a way to take them out You know what I'm saying Yeah And people know when you're doing good man People The more you go up The more the haters come The more And that's just the way it is Man I hate that Bro I hate it because it's some good people That is leaving here too fast Bro Yeah You know what I'm saying Like the young dog For all these people man These good artists you know But they But these streets take them fast Bro Yeah So what did you think about What did you think about Like as far as the city When the music kind of Comes down a little way in them They in Florida right They're not here Yeah it's not here No Nobody's here that's That was the like Everybody in Atlanta Florida Upstate somewhere Whatever You know But now you here Yeah What's What are we doing Well we're about now We're about to run the town That's that's what we're doing right now I I look forward to putting out music Man I'm not In the keeper G Man I I really want to kill For us just unleash this Shit Because I think we got it I know we got it This is about us unleashing at this point So I'm just pushing for him And the I told him the other day I'm like I'm ready to go And he's just He's trying to pull it When he failed to pull it We got it When it's right Never the right time It's going to be the right You're going to always Think it over And it's going to be You know Let's go I'm ready Like I We got So much ammo It's just like Let's go Now You know So I really That's what That's the thing We pushing for We pushing Run the town to come out No I want to flood So You think you You think you You think you got what is going What's going to make it move like that Yeah Doubt or doubt Yes Okay having that Because I I listened to Project Barbie earlier Yes That's your label, mate I listened to I mean, you know, I always talk to KL And I see the energy man And I pray for success I pray that The success continues Because Working with him Is a whole other level as well This guy has been producing Every since before you was Even thought of You see what I'm saying Yeah So how is it to work with KL? It's I love music, man So I expect it to be better than he expected to be When I get in there I think You know, when he first I remember his first reaction I had a record called Duffy I don't know if you heard the song Yeah Put in Paco trust that Duffy When I saw him playing that song I knew that he felt Just how I felt about it When I was doing it When I created it What'd you say when he heard that song When he heard Duffy What happened? He was reacting Like I reacted When I felt that it is you I knew how good that is Who produced that song? Fest For Pac along with KL KL was More so in post-production on that Okay But when I did that I knew Like it wasn't no I don't need him to validate it Like it's like I know this is fire You know And in any deals what it is? Yeah Like I love the music So I don't need With respect to the big homie KL I don't need anybody to tell me It's good I know it's good Really it's good Yeah So hold on But all right Cause everybody who has a love For something We're all human beings Have you ever found yourself At a time in your point Pointing time in your life That you're like I don't know if I love this anymore This is getting too stressful I can't really deal with it Music? Yeah No Hell no Because everybody finds No matter how much you love something It can get interesting I never came in it to be successful Like in rap I just loved music So then it became Let's make it work You know It's like to make music For me it's like I do that That's like nothing You know I'm great at that But sometimes it can take the love away Because when I say that Because you're good And then the better you get And people The more people start to love you The bigger you get Yeah And with the popularity And that success Comes other things That can also make you like You know what I like it I mean I love everything that come with Allowing my music to go further Me to create more If it allows me That my perspective is going to be This is great Anything that come with You being able to do something That you would do for free It's like That's fire You know Give me everything that come with Because that's what I would enjoy doing I mean I would take anything to do What I love doing I mean it's just It's like I don't know It's just like Just your hobby What's your end point With your music Like what do you want your music to do I know people say to touch people But if that is it In what way My first goal I'm going to say To be specific I went upon a classic project That's what I wanted I went upon a project that you're going to bump And you're going to be like Man That shit was like That was I was running that And that was like That took me through this So that That was Man I could play that today Any time that come on You know I want to do something like that So my main My goal would be to make sure I do that I get that done Wow Yeah I think that's important That you understand That that creates a legacy How hard is it to do something like that though For me I think it's easy Then why you ain't done it yet It's about the timing and the promotion of it We've done albums and we've done music But we haven't put a focus in on that yet And I don't think it's the timing yet for it We're going to have singles coming It's going to come to the point when we got that I know I can do that It's just about Kind of like dialing back to it My brother taught me It's about playing this thing out And dropping singles and getting that going But when I drop that type of Bomb that type of effect I know I could do that But now we're in the business route We're taking these steps into that I could go cook that up But they're not prepared for that right now That's why we don't run the time Yeah you gotta make sure you deliver Correctly And you have everything lined out correctly Yeah we can't drop an album right now It's like not time We gotta drop this We're dropping a single Yeah Yeah So do you feel like I know you said When you listened to And I got Because I loved his music And I loved his movement As short as it was When you sit back and listen to that young greatness Now that he's not here with us no more How does that make you feel? I do it all the time That's what I'm thinking I do it all the time Because that's how you can kind of reach that place That he was at That's right That's exactly what I- Yeah So like I do it all the time And I think just like that When I'm listening to it I'm like Man What was he at in his head? What was he- And more so with greatness It ain't so much the words But I take the tone from him Yeah Tone out like Yeah it's just tone You could tell how you feel more from a tone Than like the words Because he don't really Care as much about the words As he care about his state Expression Yeah yeah You know if that makes sense That make a lot of sense Yeah so When I- And I go back into it It makes me feel like Being average is worst in Not being here Wow You know that's what I begin from But he'd be like Being average is the worst thing ever You might as well go all out Or it's just gonna be a wasted existence And you're gonna play an average life That's true Yeah because I mean you're not putting 100% Of your potential Yeah then his boring life is stale And it's like it's just It's not what it is Ain't so crazy because you're so laid back You have this personality that's just laid back Don't seem like you're You see it when you go into the studio The music- You see it when you- I think because I think so much I don't like to like It's hard to talk all the time Because it's like Like unless it's with the music Unless it's like some type of conversation That we get going But I'm such a thinker I always sit back and just listen a lot Because I'm like I'm already Having all of my own thoughts It's like yeah yeah yeah Let me just chill and listen to you How many songs do you have with him I couldn't count that I mean we literally spent months None of them None of them Zero Because that was the process of us like Honing in on music and creation So we would make these songs To play for ourselves And we would do it to work on it And some of the songs are so terribly mixed and Yeah But we were proud of it But you can't go back and remix them So yeah we was doing these things Can't you? It's hard because of the way they recorded it Yeah but it was good though Because it was just practice It's how we kind of got it Better like a skill thing See I said listening at his project But you got other music that you listen to Not listen to the projects You don't have the other music I have songs on my computer But I don't listen to that Because it was like amateur work to me Yeah It ain't mixed right It was just like But you know that project was the one The one he put out That's right That's the music I listen to Yeah Yeah Yeah Okay I get it Yeah So when you Okay you showed me a video earlier Are we able to talk about that or no? Yeah and run the town it's coming Because he told me Yeah he told me that y'all done it Run the town when y'all done it It looks so exciting I know everybody hadn't seen it yet It looks like Fantastic It makes you want to be there Yeah the production is right And it makes you have a good time It gives you that real Louisiana feel It gives you the New Orleans Like the whole You feel to get a dose of what's going on In New Orleans now Yep That's what it does Yeah See I'm laid back right now and I get on stage It's not like that Yeah yeah yeah How often are you doing shows though? We haven't done a lot of shows as of late Because I was literally Working Yeah and I was so focused on Doing what I ought to be wanting to do Which is kind of created That I'm trying to get the people to But we're going to start when we run the town That's when we're going to begin To start off do some things like perform again You know When Duffy was running I was performing a lot Yeah And as of late we kind of dialed back And I was like out of sight And I was in my cave and we got to like working You know and we got some stuff man Make sure you record When you look at Just What has KL told you or said to you I know you said that you hard on yourself In so many words But what has is something that he said to you That really really helped you a lot He said You do things on songs I wish we could have done a no limit Wow man that's motivation Say that woman he said what He might not even remember saying it But I know you heard it what did he say He said you do stuff on records That I wish People could have done on no limit Wow You know How does that make you feel Motivated To work on the craft and continue to Wow It's more so like confirmation on what I do believe Yeah Yeah Yeah I like that man I like it and we're in a different time now So to be in a time we are now The things that he did in no limit The in the time that he did it May not even be the same Impact Because of the way that things are moving now Back during that time it was a cassette video You know maybe a video here or there You see what I'm saying But now because of the way the digital world is And the way that people are dropping music And the way that people are pretty much Visualizing the music that's being dropped It's a whole different level of how it's going to hit you and impact you So when you say packaging it up I really understand where you're coming from Because literally I feel like In music and you may not agree with this Because a lot of people don't a lot of people do I just feel like when the project come man It got to be like it was when cash money did it To where everybody in young money did it Where it just keep going This movement of the music In order to get the people to believe it You got to have so many consecutive consistent things going on So that people can really vibe to it And see your movement so that they can understand And grasp who you really are I agree You agree with that right I agree with that 100% Because that's what matters You said the delivery But the delivery has to be so impactful And so powerful that it consistently go all the way out to like the end of 2022 All the way up into 2023 I'm being real Because of the way that people are seeing people on the internet That's oversaturated with crap When something real hit it it could knock it out the box That's what I'll be saying I'll be like am I right I believe what you're saying is true Okay I believe what you're saying is real Man it's like That's why Duffy did what it did Because it was like it was so different And I break all the rules when I create Like that people told me you can't have a record with 316s And the climate we in today They said I had to come in with a hook first It just was all these rules of creativity And I'm like I didn't do nothing they said And this shit was better than all the shit they was talking about That's it That's it That means you know you have self-awareness Yeah I feel the music I don't you know I'm into it Like I feel the music I don't literally make it a I don't formula I don't have a formula Like I'm gonna do a hook And I'm gonna do this And I just fill it out And it kind of gets me I know what I need to do where And I like it I follow that direction Yeah Do you um top 3 artists of all time did or not You told me that I hate that question I don't give a damn That's how that's We ask every single person Any genre Any genre did or not Top 3 artists of all time Did or not You should have been thinking about it Yes Any genre Number one I'm gonna tell you about this a hundred times in my life But today Number one On today My favorite artist of all time Is BG Hot boy BG That's my guy right there man That's for today That number 2 That don't talk to me killed it Don't talk to me with Cal Yeah No no That don't talk to me That's Cal on that beat No Yeah I gotta talk to him about that I'd have played it when he was at the store You know I'd have played it Are you serious? Yeah that's Cal Damn I'm not posing you there I don't want your beats I fuck with medicine man You said that yourself That's Cal Number 2 Favorite artists of all time My number 2 favorite artists of all time Any genre We went rap We said Who I said first I said BG first Second Favorite artists of all time Shit man I hate this question Number 2 I fuck I'ma just say some off the wall shit I'm going mystical Don't forget Hey that boy that's serious though When that boy start rapping He get cranked like a truck Like a like a That ain't gonna be going in man I'm saying that because it's important For people to remember What mystical meant And I think people don't They forget They forget What did he mean? Come on man That man was a monster man That man was one of the best artists Wrapping Definitely from New Orleans We definitely don't Give him the respect he deserved He He was definitely one of the best rappers in the 90s Definitely in the South Yeah Everybody know that Hold it down for the South I think a lot of people know it I'm glad people are saying that Cause I don't know about him Cause I'm an older cat You know what I'm living somewhere else And I just know He one of those guys that when you really Really You gotta understand T.I. remade his song Like It's certain people that remade his songs man That respected And you know they respected it And then you gotta realize He was running around with no limit And then he came back And he jumped over there And hammered with cash money a little bit He just showing you I'm from New Orleans And I think that's the part that Niggas They know Niggas Everybody know Yeah I flagged my list as the most Sleporn New Orleans artist right now What's the number three? Let's go I cannot keep this going Since we're going this direction already I'ma keep it in New Orleans And I'ma just say Spitter Okay what is it? Spinner that drops the Spitter currency Spitter Currency? Yeah He was kind of like Since we're going this direction I didn't know his name Spitter I didn't know that Look I know currency That nigga laid back like Real laid back He is He is But like I just wanted to give some Doosteros What the hell is he at? We don't get it He here He's from there I know Where is he at now? He here That nigga supposed to come do a Boss talk Wanna interview I need to hit that nigga man We got a record A hotel Let's put it out Really? Yeah Man I need to talk to this guy man I'ma hit him up You think that record could go hard? Who had the best verse? I'm not doing that one Look the man came to the studio And I didn't think he was really gonna do it and He told me the time he was gonna be there He pulled up and his verse came through That's what's That's what's That's love You know off the love That's a while back but it was just The name of the song is It's Love It's love That nigga fly boy I love his style I remember when he was popping It was something It either had to be some video There was some footage of him in the hood or somewhere And it was showing And I seen that in his movement Yeah You know what I mean? Like it was some visual that showed me Some behind the scenes on currency Internet don't kill me for my top three list I know y'all gonna go crazy on that shit I know when I said it y'all was gonna be like What? What? Now I'll give it a day Mr. Goo VG really Yeah currency Yeah New Orleans man Respected Nigga have you ever heard Andre rap? They go people gonna see that shit in the comments Look I just wanted them to get some shine Alright That's all good man So it's all love So man we love you bro Thank you for coming on the show Did we miss anything? I did most of the talking this one I ain't gonna lie Cause I love when he said What took it over Was I didn't see the connection to young greatness I didn't watch none I didn't know that I know And you gotta understand that's my guy Bruh like when Nobody was checking for him like me Around me You understand what I'm saying? It's just certain people I love music So when I connect to something I don't care what nobody like If I connect with you I'm fine I don't care if you got one follower nigga I'm with you Yeah So when I heard that song And I started listening and I said This dude got it What was the first song That moved like that That's the one The one that yeah That's the one they was trying to punch in our face That's free when they caught Yeah They caught And when they when they When they hit I didn't Everything else he done was gonna ride I was gonna ride with it anyway If there's someone with a little slower tempo and all that But I didn't care That song showed me this nigga good at this That's what it was And after that it didn't matter what he done I was gonna follow it anyway Because I know once you do something like that You can't miss A lot of niggas though they'll do a song Then they'll change their style And they I don't like that But that's just me That's personal Something to switch it up too much for me I think a nigga's music Should be like Money Man Money Man Just done the same when he did his first run That whole album the cadences were sounding the same The beats was changing But I said get older and they evolved No no he changed it now But I'm just saying that first I'm talking about the first project Yeah You don't want to confuse the people that you And I feel like that project that Young Greatness did was all that in the end so You know what I'm saying? Yeah So um did we leave anything out? We left out Paco Trasclett coming Run the town to be out soon How can we find it? What can we find you at? You can first of all go here Duffy Paco Trasclett Duffy Start with Duffy Run the town to be out soon But come to my page man Follow me on everywhere on IG Twitter YouTube And get a load of Duffy That's the greatest in all this video What the hell though? All the time How do we get to it? Elf of Wild Wayne said How do you get to like on the Insta Paco Trasclett P-A-C-O-G-R-O-X-C-L-A-I-R Okay Paco Trasclett Man thank you so much man We love you bro I enjoyed you I spent more time with you than anybody else Down here Okay that's what's up You know that right? That's what's up I don't know nobody so I'm down here Like just finally to go okay Over right here Right So we rockin' with you man Thank you so much for coming on the Show man It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101 Where the Boss is Talk And we