 How do you plan on handling Saturday after we talk about as a staff? I thought we had pretty good work. We've got a good camp pushes guys hard and we got to evaluate where we're at. I feel like most of the team is what do we need to see on Saturday? And the decisions we got to make. And then that's for June. You said, okay, so it's not the back. Yeah, coach, how do you feel the work when coach Doug said the spirit of cooperation was great? You got two professional staffs teams are trying to get better and understanding the objective out there and we got a good situation work. Can't thank Doug and the staff and really the Jacksonville players. It was awesome. Yeah, what do you think? I get fine if I talk about it. So I'm curious what you thought on some of the calls. You don't want to get fine, do you? I don't have any thoughts on the call. Oh, come on, come on. That's taking the easy way out here. Do you lead? Well, you're trying to get me fine. So what are you asking? No, no, no. Because we have those coaching opportunities that we're trying to go to. Yeah, in all seriousness, yeah. How did you try to take advantage of those coaching opportunities this week and we got the refs out here? Yeah, we talked through them, you know, because as you're going for the preseason, what are the points of emphasis? Can they clarification of certain calls? Like with odd A's penalty, right? You know, you're trying to clarify those and the points of emphasis. You know, the stuff that I always say you can control, we can control pre snap logistics or operation, pre snap penalties. That's the stuff that drives me insane. Obviously, you don't want to have the penalties in between the snaps, penalties of aggression, right? We got to clean the holds up. Your hands are outside and you're clamping. God doesn't care, they don't call it every time. So we can be better fundamentally and that's what you coach off of to your point. But having the refs out here, having Jerome, his staff is awesome because I get to go in there and talk to them. And as you guys know, they're making calls, right? And then obviously every fan on TV, they slow it down in real time. Like it's hard, easier said than done, but you have to have perspective and cooperation. Once you do get them corrected or not, my next question is just how difficult the cut down is. Your roster was symmetrical last year, 25, 25 and three. Is that the formula? It's always going to change, D-Led. And then there's always the new normal now, right? You've got the 53, you've got a 16-person practice squad, you've got elevations. You can use, there's a lot of different roster mechanisms. And it's continuing. I mean, you saw there's players that we added late. There's other guys that we developed that we expect to help us at some point. So there's a lot of strategy that goes along with it. You know, nobody's 53. Then you have a pizza party and you're on scholarship. That's not happening. I mean, it's very fluid and it's good. It's good for the health of the game, developing players. So we've got a lot of decisions, but even next week, it's nothing set in stone. What kind of is a set in the biggest jump? Where do you think he's seen the biggest jump or the biggest surprise to you that he's been able to do this? I mean, you're saying he can't do it? No, I'm saying because you're buying into narratives because he came from the CFL. He didn't come from Alabama. Who cares? Players come from everywhere. Everybody's got the same opportunity. He's taken advantage of the opportunity. And he's translated everything he's done off-season to own the practice field and he's shown up so far in games. And excited to see where it goes. If you went into a game with him as you're starting, Nick, or would you be okay with that with his team? Anybody who put out there, we're okay with it. Again, because people put labels on and they got to fight the biases of group think, a lot of good players come to a lot of places in the NFL. However, it's Edelwamba Community College. Give you $100. You can guess who came from there. He did spend some time here. Came by the way of CFL. That's a trivial question. Anybody know what receiver it was? Picked up a cell phone under the end zone. Go hard. Edelwamba Community College. Play for the Memphis Mad Dogs. Play for the CFL Memphis Mad Dogs. So guys come from everywhere. Again, when they get an opportunity to come on here, you got a chance to go earn it. And so I'm excited for a lot of our guys. Did you also evaluate the guys in the kicking game? Sure. How does that change him in your in-game strategy? Let's say it's a fourth-in-ins. Right. If you need to see a kick, you want to see Liam get another snap, whether it's a short snap on a field goal where you may potentially in a regular-season game go for it, you got to make a decision. Let's get an opportunity to get an operation on the field goal next. Same thing to kick off. You want to go see some guys cover. Let's put it up there and make them return it. Those are evaluation tools without the pressure of the regular season. Ericka, can you talk a little bit about the culture of this team and what you're trying to build and still and how different it might be the second training camp versus a year ago? Yeah, I think it's going to be different every year. I mean, the foundation you're trying to set, I think our guys understand that what our core values are. I think every year you're going to fight this, whether you've got great expectations or you're ranked the 35th roster and coaching staff out of 32 teams. Same thing. You got to go prove it every year. And you want to keep that competition. You never want to get complacent. Keep things in perspective. And the good teams improve as the year goes on. Even if you come out hot, it's a long grind. And that's the objective. To keep turning competition, to keep improving and to be there at the end. How have you changed this personally as a head coach, going to the second season? I hope to change every year. I'm fortunate enough to get to do this. I'm thankful every day. I got one of the greatest jobs in the world. I got to go coach football and national football league. That's not lost on me. I'm thankful that it's here in Atlanta with a great organization. So I hope every year I'm here, I get better as a coach. So certainly coming in year two, there's things you learn along the way. And I don't think you ever want to as a person. No matter if I'm 80 years old, I don't want to stop learning and growing. So I'm always looking for ways to improve. But certainly, you know, there's a lot of, you've gone through a season. There's always going to be surprises. Every day I walk in, expect the unexpected. And it certainly helps. So it's the last game. You know, I don't know. It's traditionally been where you see guys trying to really push to make those last spots and so forth. A lot of starters tell back, you know, what are you looking for for your approach to this last game? Yeah, that's something we'll finalize tonight, tomorrow as a staff. You know, feel pretty good to where we're at. We've gotten guys reps. You know, something that's one thing where we changed from a year ago where we assessed and, again, this different team and we felt like our guys needed to play for multiple reasons. So we'll weigh that and weigh, you know, the opportunities for some of these young guys that we need to get more looks at. All those guys did. News, News's group. News and the boys, they come out swinging. Lee Roy, Shaef, News Flash, Harry and Tyler. So, you know, we'll see. But those guys get a lot of work at some capacity Saturday afternoon. They've had a month to kind of show you what they've got. So how much pain is already in the barn? Never in the barn, man. Never in the barn. So you guys can make the team based on what happened Saturday? Absolutely. A bunch of them? We'll see. I mean, you want to go ahead and just tell everybody it's over? I mean, it's every day it changes, you know. I mean, it's like there's like an ebb and flow. Guys get, they come out hot, fresh legs. First three or four days, maybe flash a little bit and your first mock game or whatever you want to call it, scrimmage. And then as the camp goes on is, you know, so you had these hot takes early on. It's just the long, slow and steady. And the hardest thing is to be objective. Take everything in perspective. So everything that we do matters. Certainly it's a very important game for a lot of guys Saturday. It certainly looks like you get two different defensive philosophies. How much does that help you to get ready to go against the Jets and now these guys? Yeah, completely different. It's great. It's great work, you know. You get prepared to go up to New York. You get that four down, those jet fronts, the old Jim Washburn fronts, got to find up the field. Then you go down this scheme, you know. A lot of people are playing base five down fronts now, whether they're under, you know, jam fronts, you know, there's a lot of base five down fronts in this league right now. So this is a good scheme. I mean, obviously we got multiple scheme with Dean. So in my call, I mean, I got, I think he's a terrific football coach and that's a good front. So we're very thankful we got that work in a day. You may attest on your manager, but what message do you have to your team as it relates to the expectations or the low expectations that people have? It's like, here's what I kind of referred to. Good or bad, they're peripheral opponents. Because neither one of them are true. Because that's the best thing. It's the most competitive, in my biased opinion, the most competitive league in all professional sports. Things can change on a dime for you in a week to week. And if you buy in to group think narratives one way or the other, shame on you. It's toxic either way. And so the biggest, the hardest thing is to be objective, have perspective and continue to make progress. That's all we try to do is make progress here. How do you think that this camp went as well as the course in the last four or five months? Yeah, obviously nothing's perfect, but very encouraged. I think we've had a great camp. It gives us a chance as we still got a lot of work ahead of us before Saturday and certainly before New Orleans in September 11th. So please, like I said, I love coaching these guys. These guys work. They're fun to be around. So we'll keep chopping away at it.