 At the media event a little bit earlier this week we got a preview of MacPaw's Hyder 2 and now we're in the booth with Philip Struchkov. I gave it my best shot. I told you I might not get it right but I would try. So tell us about MacPaw and Hyder 2. So MacPaw, we're a Ukrainian software development company. We developed Mac application for already six years. Our main protocol clean my Mac 2. We released it last year in Macworld. Then we also have Gemini as a duplicate finder. The application which lets you find and remove duplicates from your Mac and here's our third application called Hyder 2. It lets you hide and creep files and folder on your Mac so no one will be able to find them or access them on your Mac so it's completely secure. So this is for the example of you're coming across I don't know the Canadian border. I think they like to open up your Mac and look at stuff. They just simply wouldn't realize those files are there. Yeah sure you won't be able to find it in finder, spotlight or even terminal. Okay so is it using any of the built-in tools of OS 10 that you can do? I mean I think you can do this sort of thing through the terminal right? Yeah you can do but it's still so don't know these files will be able to find them. Okay all right so we're gonna do a little demo here and we'll hopefully be able to describe it for the listening audience as well. Okay sure. So the app itself is password protected. In order to unlock the app you need to enter your password. It's got a really cool combo lock fake combo lock on it that looks really cool. Yeah so once you unlock the app you get the list of files and folders which you have hidden with Hyder. In order to add another file you can simply drag the file under the application window and then file will be the file will disappear from its original location and will be moved to our secure vault. So you won't be able to find this file through spotlight file for example go to spotlight type in the file name and we won't see the file which I just hidden. It also works the same way with folders so you can just drag the folder and it will disappear from its original location. If you need to unhide the file or folder you simply click the button to unhide it and the files are back at their original locations. So do they actually physically move location? Yeah they do actually physically change the location because we are copying our files into our internal library and encrypting them with AES 256 encryptions. Okay cool so it looks like you can show some as visible he's toggled some switches and some are hidden and you can also choose to hide all when you're done. Yeah yeah there is also a global search card so you can hide all files with just hidden three buttons or you can log the app with the same combination. Very good well I've got a copy of of Hyder 2 and I hope to give this one a good test how much is Hyder 2 cost? It will cost $19.99 it will be available on the Mac App Store starting from 2nd of April next Wednesday but we are introducing 50% launch discount for first week so you can hurry up and buy it for less than 10 bucks. I hope we get this interview out before then. Well thank you very much Philip and the company again is MacPaw and the product is Hyder 2 the number two. Thank you Alison.