 Welcome everyone. Thanks for joining us today. We're going to give everybody a minute to get signed in and get comfy. And we'll get started in just a little bit. Hey, baby. Hey, Carla. How's it going? Good. Good. Thanks. How are you? I'm doing okay. We're surviving flu and all kinds of things over here. So I'm not in the best physical state right now, but I'm good. You got better for cube comb. Don't worry. Exactly. Exactly. I have my immunities built back up. And Aliza, I think we are the only ones brave enough to show the video today. Oh, hello, John. And the bed stayed. Oh, no. We're talking about me. I'm talking about myself. No, no, but no, I peer pressured other people now I can see. Of course, don't feel pressured if you cannot or don't want to show your camera. But sometimes it's nice if you're feel like it. See faces. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow, it worked. Great. Hello. Otherwise we're not going to recognize each other. If and when we meet at cube con. So it's good to start to see and recognize our faces here. Good idea. Yeah, get some live live version. Yes. Okay. Well, I think you can maybe go ahead and get started. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody still kind of come in. Obviously we are recording. We don't have a whole, whole lot to cover today. We're just going to do some housekeeping and hand things over to Carla for a little bit. We've just got some results from our polls. From the last meeting. So. I think we'll go ahead and get started bear with us. We're going to try and pass back and forth on the slide deck. Here we go. Thanks for joining us, everyone. Obviously here's at our conference info for today. Our next meeting actually is not going to be in March. We're going to skip this one because of cube con. So we will update the calendar after that. The call is recorded. If you don't want to be recorded, please stay off camera. Okay. So we're going to go ahead and get started. So we're going to go ahead and go ahead and get started. And the slides are always found in the marketing committee slides folder and the recordings will be posted on YouTube after. This is our L at the antitrust policy notice. As always, let's keep everything in the green and keep the lawyers out of it. So everyone just play nice in the sandbox. Our agenda today, like I mentioned, we're going to discuss upcoming meeting discussion topic. Poll results. Do our quick team updates. And then we'll do a couple of key takeaways. Carla, I'm going to hand this over to you so you can start chatting over. Poll results from last week when we were kind of voting on what we want to talk about in the meetings. And then I will hand it over to you for your slides and then we can see how we do passing back. Excellent. Yes. It's my fault that we're doing this slide. Hopefully Zoom is going to, is going to work well. But anyway, before we jump into my mini, mini deck, thought it would be great to share the results from the poll that we launched last meeting about the topics that you would like to discuss as a committee, something that is interesting for you. You would like to explore more, to learn more about. And I have to say, I'm not surprised to see KubeCon with the strongest result over there. And that's why we also chose KubeCon to be the topic of the conversation today. But if you look at the slide over here, I can see that online programs, for example, are pretty, pretty close. So once we're all done with the KubeCon excitement back in April, like Libyn mentioned, we can already jump into the next topic. And since we're going to have a bit more time also to prepare, I'm encouraging you all to already start some meetings, some questions, some doubts on some specific areas around online programs that you want to explore. This way we can make the conversation even more collaborative and also making sure that we are talking about the things that you care about, like the real details that you want to understand better. And after that, we're going to experiment a little bit with this format and see if it's working for us. And I love feedback. So I've already disclaimer, I'm going to ask for feedback a lot. And I think that's why we're here as a committee as well. So we can find always ways to improve these kind of collaborations and communication. So this is actually the very first experiment. And I can start sharing my slides if that can... Let's see. I will stop and you get started. And I think you can see my screen. Excellent. Okay. So these literally three slides, don't worry. But since KubeCon is the topic, I thought that I could share a recipe to make KubeCon a delicious event that we can all enjoy and maybe improve also for the all community. And I'm not really sharing some unique or incredible hard to find information, but I think it will be a great start of the conversation. So I'm really counting on you all to jump in as soon as I'm done here so we can all share our experiences. So what is it? I think that in order to make a great experience at KubeCon any event or in general with the community, content is always at the center of the scene, of the ecosystem. And it's really hard sometimes to do content that is really useful and consumed by our ecosystem. And this is the recipe that I found, which I've also used in my past and as work in building communities. So the last good part is that it takes many years. So it's not a recipe that you can do in two hours or so. But the best part is that you can serve the all cloud native ecosystem. So everybody can taste this dish, this recipe that you're preparing. And the ingredients are only three. And, you know, in marketing we love to find this kind of puns and acronyms is three E's. And it's all about entertainment, emotions and education. So why am I sharing this preamble with all this? It's because what I've seen working at events like KubeCon or even smaller or even bigger is that finding a way to connect with the community. And in order to connect with the KubeCon community and any other community, you need to connect with the human beings as well. Those are part of this community. And if you share content and content can be around your product, around your services, whatever your business is doing, that is, first of all, entertaining. So kind of people can laugh. They can also remember better because they're having fun while they're consuming your content. But it's not just about the entertainment part. It's also about their emotions. And I don't mean emotional in a dramatic way. I mean like resonating with them, with their needs. What are the pain points every day at work that you with your service or your company and your product can actually help them with? And finally, because it's an event and because our community loves to learn, they definitely need to like your content needs to be educational. So you can share something that is new for them or not so new, but they can learn and they can improve their experience in the ecosystem. So hopefully the result is this. This is from last year in Amsterdam. It was, of course, a great event. And hopefully we're gonna see something very similar in Paris, if not even better. But I think also I've talked enough. I would like to ask you all or whoever feels like speaking now, if you would like to share your experiences and your tips and what you think us work to engage the KubeCon attendees with your booth, with your swag, whatever you're using. Oh, hello. Buddha, I think I hope I'm pronouncing your name right. Yes. Hello. Yes, that's Buddha. Hello. Hi. I'm Buddha, developer advocate at Dike. I think of one tip. I've been to a couple of KubeCon so far. I think one that recently happened in Chicago and one come back in Amsterdam. And I think we'll be there at Paris as well. I think one of the things that I've realized with the scale of KubeCon, you always have to prepare beforehand. Like the amount of work that you do beforehand is also just as important as what you do there. So if you can plan out what kind of sessions you want to go, who are the kind of people that you want to network with, reach out to your own network and see who is going to be attending, set up meetings and in-person things if you want. And then just see if you are having a booth for instance and see who's going to be near and around you and what the location of that booth is. And then if you have some sort of a demo that you can provide, this is a fairly technical audience on what I've seen so far. I think they do enjoy, prefer no fluff straight to the point kind of things from a content perspective. Over-the-top marketing can be eye-catching, but I think if you want to hold people's attention, be a little bit more straightforward demo, getting things done sort of a content that usually resonates well with people. It resonates well with me as well. But I think planning ahead makes a huge amount of difference. Whether you're going to be meeting people, whether you're going to be looking to have a live discussion with people, whether it's, I don't know, there are usually live podcasts and things happening there as well. So, you know, if you can reach out before time, then you might be able to, you know, have a live discussion with people which can be used later on as well. So, plan ahead is going to be my number one if there was ever one. Yeah. Thank you. Plan ahead and then be educational, I think, because, you know, demos are great for people to learn new features and about new projects. I can see, Michael, you have your hands up. Yeah. So, we did a CubeCon last year. And one of the things that we found really valuable at our booth, we actually scheduled out known times for when we were going to have little demos, little 15-minute demos. And we did that twice a day. So, I was delivering that. And, you know, on that demo note, I'm a big proponent of this and I thought it worked out really well. Just like what Pluto was saying, the marketing aspect of the demo is like really having a demo that's very real world. So, one of the things we did with our demo, I actually rebuilt the Spotify application as part of our demo for kind of showcasing everything in our product. And the nice thing about that in my demo is actually had an audio factor. So, like, I had a little speaker that was playing a song as the start of the demo. And, you know, when we were using like our product and our stuff, we actually paused the music through our product. So, it's very showing like this is a very real world thing. And you can actually see people's eyes perk up when they realize, like, oh, that actually did use, like, Spotify's REST API right there. And you can see their eyes light up versus kind of showing a little bit of, like, you know, a fake little demo inside of there. So, I think that in that we're very engaging and high quality in there. Yeah. I love this idea. Well done. That's a real creativity there. And, again, I think also this approach is quite unique and people are, I think, they're really thirsty for different things that we see a lot of the same sometimes on the floor. And it's hard to come up with ideas. So, definitely kudos to you. But, yeah, I think I'm also taking notes so maybe we can share a summary after the meeting if you don't mind but thank you. Thank you for sharing your experience. Anybody else? You can also share about swag. I have strong opinions about swag, by the way. I know that, you know, we're trying as an industry, we're trying to be more sustainable with swag. I don't know how much we're achieving this goal because I'm also guilty about that. I'm not judging anybody. But the point that I like maybe to raise here is the connection between the swag item that you choose and your product or your company and how you live together. Because sometimes it's very, we see a lot at conferences like big conferences like KubeCon or others very sensational swag items that have little to do with the product or the company and then it becomes a very short-sighted effect of the swag. So, I don't know if I'm being too provocative but, yeah, I would love to hear your thoughts about that. And Ben, you got your hands on that. Yeah. My video, let me select the right webcam. You know, one thing that I found as an attendee is, you know, you grab stickers or something and you come back six months later and you have, I have no idea what this logo is. So, you know, it's really important that, you know, there are very few brands who can get by on their logo alone. So, having something on their website, their company name, something that when people pick up that whatever it is a few months later, they associate who it's with and not huh, I wonder what that company does. I don't remember. Yeah. Absolutely, I've been there. I can relate differently. Kimberly, hi. Hi Carla, how are you? I'm good, how are you? This is Kimberly Long, I'm an event global partnership manager and a lot of you are some of my sponsors and I work for the LF and I get a lot of sponsors to ask a lot about this type of thing and obviously entertainment is key. Attracting attendees to your booth to create conversation is a key part of that. Having some sort of interactive game or spin the wheel to win our swag prize. Anything that could create more of a buzz around your booth giveaways are really kind of fun. I see a lot of sponsors who end up having groups of people around their booth where they give away things. Demos are also very exciting like Buddha mentioned. Anything that you can do to create interest in your booth, whether it be lights, colors food, you have to have a request that and ask and get approval first but anything that you can do to create that entertainment in your booth really kind of pulls the attendees to speak to you and then obviously the emotional part of it is very much like Michael said is having some sort of ability to interact and have conversations with people that is of interest to them and then obviously education is key to any of that and I always recommend that my sponsors also go to sessions and actually listen to what's being said at the event and that way you can also create more networking types of conversations with the attendees who are asking them did you see the keynote, did you have any kind of questions about what they were talking about maybe my company does XYZ for you. So it's really key that our sponsors also attend the event as well and not just wait for the attendees to come to them and talk to them and find out what they need and you'll probably have a better event. Thank you so much Kimberly. I think yeah indeed I'm sure you hear these questions all the time so it's great to get your input in that and to maximize the experience for everybody. Buddha you have your hand up. Yeah just a small one I think one of the things that I as an attendee gravitated towards quite a lot has been sort of the books giveaway side of things I think especially there is something where a book is signed by an actual author. I saw that quite being quite popular at Kupkan, Chicago as well so again very specific time so there's a book signing or something like that happening could be really really good so and again it speaks to the educational side of things it's something that people take away it's a little bit more that you remember it's sort of got that memory built into it as well like when you're reading that book you potentially think about who gave you that book sometimes especially if you can sort of custom make some kind of a bookmark or something of those lines but yeah books to me are the ones that I look forward to the most. I mean t-shirts are great and everything that's good but I think books is usually my personal preference Oh well yeah I can agree more also I'm very lucky to be working with Liz Rice and you know her book on EVPF is always an immense attraction at Kupkan so I've seen like super long kills for her book signing Liam hello I would just comment I think you mentioned Liz for example or if you think of Kelsey or the people that have just dominated and done an incredible job with user engagement is I think there's no replacement for authenticity and the way to be truly authentic is to match your personas so if you're there to speak with developers you need to bring developers in the booth because you can't fake have a marketing person talk to a developer it's going to be a mismatch they're not going to connect with them authentically you know they're going to be able to you know ape the words or can be part of the message but it's not there's going to be a limit so you can go beyond you know a technical sales level so the most authentic conversations that I've had in you know the 20 years of delivering and executing around multiple businesses have always centered around that authentic conversation moment and I think if you are out for platform engineers bring a platform engineer and always have one in the booth because when you find those personas that want to double click and go one step deeper in that journey because they are that customer and that persona there's no replacement for that and there's no spinning wheel or swag that can ever replace being authentic and that connectivity to your brand yeah again I totally agree with you and there is still a way for marketing to collaborate and be involved make sure that the message comes across that there is a sort of qualification so then the follow ups that you do but to have those genuine and authentic conversations yes it's you need to have the audience speaking with the same persona I think we have time for one last comment or question I've already gone beyond my slots sorry but I'm really happy to see that the conversation is so engaging so if there's one last person otherwise I would hand it over back to Libby good that was awesome y'all thanks keep that up submit to us any questions you have anytime let me go ahead and re-share my screen and we will keep moving okay one more thing before we head into kind of our team updates coming involvement opportunities deadlines to sponsor these are a couple of events coming up be sure to click through these links and take part today alright with that I'm going to hand it to membership is there someone here from this team if not I will cover it real fast here are our new members silver members welcome nonprofits end user support welcome everyone and now I think I see Carl I'm going to hand it over to the PR and AR team cool is anyone from PR on sorry it's just getting off me thanks yeah so here side we obviously we are super heads actually just had a really great article just up here today in French based on an interview that Taylor had with the reporter this morning so that was really great we have a couple really good articles slated for PrecubeCon so just going down into my first slide though for January we had cloud events who graduated which was really great got some good coverage there and then the other slide that we have is this sustainability survey that we're working on it's a micro survey if you aren't familiar we've done quite a few micro surveys around interesting topics like get ops or recently we just did training and certifications and so it just gives us they're pretty small but it gives us like a good look into these topics and if you are doing anything around sustainability or anybody in your organization is please share this survey link with them we would love to hear from you or anyone you know there you go and then I'll pass it on to you Carl on the topic of sustainability Nikki got interviewed by or you can go to the next slide Nikki got interviewed by Rachel Stevens one of the analysts over at Red Monk on her work and the sustainability tags work and that's a fun fantastic interview slash podcast slash you can just straight up read it they do a great job over at Red Monk and pushing these things out on a bunch of different mediums for people so I'd encourage you to read that but it's also just a nice flag and it's really awesome to see that we're continuing to see the effects of QtCon Chicago which is where Nikki got connected with Rachel in one of our analyst sessions so fantastic if you want to hop to the next slide I just want to kind of circle back on what happened in January and the analyst community is really busy with their planning of the research for 2024 and as part of that we're seeing a lot of research plans coming out and I wanted to highlight this one which is from Lee Tracy and Devin who are three of the top analysts covering the cognitive space over at Forrester so definitely worth briefing them if you haven't briefed them if they're relevant to you and if you want to see what their upcoming research is going to be and you don't have a Forrester license in order to get there the official document this is a great webinar to sign up for on the next slide we've got Gartner a bunch of Gartner primers which we pulled out which we thought would be helpful for people you do need a subscription to be able to access these primers but if you haven't planned out your 2024 analyst calendar yet or if you're still kind of editing it a lot of these plans are really fluid definitely click down into these primers this is only a fraction of them there's a ton out there and make sure you're finding a relevant primer clicking down and then that will give you the relevant research and the relevant analysts so then you can plan your briefings around it so just a pointer to make sure you're aligning with the correct analysts and not spinning your tires talking to the wrong people on that note if you stop the next slide if you missed last last month's meeting we presented this industry analyst coverage report go ahead and click down on that if you haven't already the reason I'm flagging this is we've got kubecon coming up right around the corner and a lot of the analysts who will be attending kubecon in paris are listed in this document we have a fairly consistent community so if you're looking if you're wondering hey who should I be speaking to who's relevant industry who's hot definitely re click down into that it's got some it might just give you a little bit of a shortcut so you're not digging through a bunch of research trying to figure out who the authors are on slide 17 we've got some highlights we always just like to pull out some of the stuff that's happening out there across all the firms this month's great stuff coming up from Forrester Gartner kind of the big three or four also an awesome article coming out from Donnie over at playful insights on kubecon so we're continuing to see even more kubecon stuff just because analysts have such a long research cycle compared to journalists and so if you have article if you have subscriptions go ahead and click down these are great articles to read if you got the time for it and that's it so thank you that's what our team's been up to awesome thanks Carl okay into content marketing I'm going to go through these pretty quick but online programs here's where we landed for January we still have q1 spots available for you to book your online program so definitely hop into the link and book now we had four cloud native lives this month two on demand webinars and five playlist submissions we did have about half the month shut down just trying to get everything ready for the new year so we were really only operating in about two weeks so those are picking up and y'all are booking them out already so thanks for doing that and I know this is a hot topic so now I'm on deck to talk about this in our next meeting so I will start pulling things together for that if you have any questions or things that you want to address specifically you're welcome to send those directly to me or to the online programs email alias and I will compile those for next time and then just a quick overview on cube weekly and these stats and how we're doing continue sending those articles in remember that is there's an unlimited amount of articles you can submit to cube weekly it reaches beyond just the scope of kubernetes days we're addressing all new releases projects technical and editorial articles so definitely keep submitting those and get your content out there and I will hand this one over to Charlie thanks Levy and hi everyone so yeah just a quick update on our ngs of case studies we had two really awesome case studies from our friends over at William who contributed these from form 3 and Rabo bank which were super interesting and I really enjoyed at my end getting to work on these so just a note that if you'd like to take advantage of this service you can publish your case studies on cncf.io our only big request is that please do not make these sales pictures we really want to hear about how your end users are leveraging cloud native projects to make their businesses better I'm happy to chat to anyone over Slack or email if you want more information about these going into the new year and if you go to the next slide please Levy and just a quick update on our blogs we had a really fantastic January as that comes as a prize to no one top blog was posted on the 5th of January got almost 900 views and it was the top 10 observability resources by the cncf community in 2023 so awesome to see that performing so well and just a note as well you can go and look at our analytics for blogs and for case studies at any time that you like there is a link here under the cncf metrics and you can also change this to different views whether it's monthly weekly or yearly so you can use this in your reporting too awesome thank you Charlie all right and a quick overview on projects is there anybody from the projects team on sorry we can hop in I can't sorry Levy there's also a couple of questions sorry yes you want me to pull them up yes so for feedback for Q-weekly we do submit to the group of editors in a doc and if they are not if your article is not accepted I do keep the notes so you can reach out to me directly to get feedback on that typically what we're looking for are recently published articles within about probably a three week time frame since it's a weekly newsletter definitely staying within that vendor neutral content and that's those are the big things so also you can submit as many articles as you want we do try and keep it limited to one per company if we can so there are also links to the guidelines on that Q-weekly slide so if you have any questions beyond that feel free to reach out anything else okay Thomas I will send these to you after the meeting if that helps if Michael is also asking about March and online programs let me see March dates available there should be March dates available we go through Q1 right now I believe it's probably going to be on demand webinars that are available I believe the live stream has a waitlist that you're welcome to join if you're interested and yes so we will usually open the next quarter so Q2 will open probably midway through March so we usually do that about halfway through the last month of the quarter and send out some announcements via email and the Slack channel so let me know if there's any other questions there let's see there we go ah thank you Annalisa okay moving on to projects do we have someone here do you want me to help you can click it on over and GV and I will take this GV I know you're on hi well I'll pass it off to you to talk about chat loop back off yes so before anyone says anything we're super good at naming things I'm very creative while we were at Chicago there was a twitter thread started by a bunch of community members wishing that TGI capes would come back and I kind of thought about it and went you know you're absolutely right we need to just bring something of that format back we need some way to try and get everyone to keep up with cloud native because it is still moving at break next speed so another thing that we've been doing is this little show at Keeb cons called clash loop back off where we kind of do an iron chef pitting two folks against each other trying to appease my whims of technical challenges so now we're going to do chat loop back off which is going to be a very similar format to TGI kates we're going to have a community member that is going to drive us through one or more projects we're also going to use this as a way to highlight some you know key news that has happened over the last week and just kind of be interactive and build more community connections that's that's it we start tomorrow it's going to be every Thursday at 1pm pacific which is what 3pm my time in central and the first stream is going to be on Kubernetes gateway API and I think the second stream and we're going to ride that hype train and do kates GPT me double check but we have content planned out well through June so there is there is no there's no want for topics one thing I will say I am going to personally host the first few just to try and set the tone and make sure that you know all the kinks are worked out and then we're going to start including some hand-picked community members at first just to make sure that handoff is good and everyone else can kind of follow the format after that we're going to open it up to all community members ambassadors whoever wants to host one we can just let them go to town thoughts questions Katie did I miss anything good nope you got it all I just dropped the link in the chat for anyone who wants to join we're super excited about this and would love to have you join that live stream and or share it with your developers and your teams that way they can ask Jeefy all kinds of questions and further on the discussion around our technology yeah and I think just just to kind of elaborate or expand on what I mean like what I mean by setting the tone I'm going into these blind like I have not personally interacted with Kubernetes Gateway API but you know I kind of know cloud native well enough where you're going to see me learn on the fly am I going to make sure that I can spin it up locally yes and that's where I'm going to stop before the stream so it really is going to be kind of watching me bumble my way through this but I also feel like that's one of the best ways to learn and it's one of the best ways to kind of interact with you know other developers as they say on the internet if you want to find the right answer fast give the wrong answer love it well thanks Jeefy thanks for jumping on to talk about chat loop back often anyone who has questions you can feel free to reach out to me and Jeefy we'd love to kind of talk to you about this new program and with that I'll jump into some community programs so KCDs as you know we hosted 35 last year we completed two KCDs already this year in 2024 and it's only February we have 29 more in the planning phases so we're getting ready to exceed our what we had last year so if you're looking to have some of your folks speak at upcoming events this is a great way to get in touch with that local community we have CFPs open for Texas, New York and Zurich and then upcoming events would be Sao Paulo Guadalajara Hetera Costa Rica and Munich so definitely check out all those upcoming events and Annalies just noted that KCD Italy is in their CFP as well and Jeefy will be in Sao Paulo so if you're there definitely say hi to them as a reminder check out our upcoming C&C G's our cloud need of community groups we're really starting off again a super strong year to have lots of engagement in local regions so if you're in any of these local regions whether you call that place home or you're just visiting and want to make connections with other people in the C&CF community this is a great place to do that and then lastly Ambassador Applications are now open so H1 2024 applications will close on March 10th if you or someone you know would be a great ambassador I recommend you checking it out and applying today I've included the requirements and guidelines to become an ambassador and there's actually several ambassadors for the marketing committee so I'm sure if you have any questions any one of them would be happy to answer it and I'll kind of stop here and let anyone who have questions ask them before we jump into everyone's favorite topic events all right we can jump into events hi everyone I'm Lindsay Gendro I'm one of the C&CF event managers I primarily work with our projects and our co-located events at the QCons so I'm going to run through we do have several slides great event information starting off with we're going to see everyone in Paris very soon again calling out some last chance sponsorship opportunities for the AI Hub, cloud native hacks and our cloud native executive strategy summit also please make sure you're registering before the rates go up and booking those hotels before the hotel block is full I'm shifting to the next part we have a few more details about cloud native hacks so if you want to go to the next slide please we are still accepting applications for this opportunity you can click through and see details there and submit going to the next two slides these are all our co-located events for Europe we have 16 co-located events which is the most we've ever had tell all your friends one of our co-located events still has a CFP open until end of day today and that's our cloud native startup fest so if you have any topics you'd like to submit please do that before end of day today to get considered for that schedule otherwise all of the rest of our co-located event schedules are live going to slide 34 we've got a couple virtual project events that will be taking place in February and in May one for our dopper and one for Strimsy those will be on our community groups site and our complimentary registration Strimsy is still open for submissions for CFPs if you'd like to submit a talk all right still rolling more events GetOpsCon North America is going to be co-located with Open Source Summit North America registration is open sponsor sales are open and that schedule is going to be announced before the end of the month going to the next slide we've got cloud native security con which will be in June also in Seattle sponsorships are available CFP is open until May and then registration just noting when early birth ends so you can get a good deal on registration and moving ahead to Doopcon North America which is in November in Salt Lake City sponsorships are available registration will be live soon if your project is interested in hosting or having CNCF host a co-located event the proposal process is open if you do have any questions about that process I am the best person to contact and happy to talk through those opportunities with you and then the final slide this was just announced via press release save the dates for Doopcon China and also Doopcon cloud native con Open Source Summit India as well more details will be shared in upcoming marketing calls Dan is there with co-located events I kind of got the sense since we're doing more co-located events that there's kind of like I don't know more co-located content in general for Doopcon I don't know if that's totally intentional but I was curious if I know for Argo con that we would love to have like a two day event is there anybody else pushing for that is that a direction that we could see the project moving in or any thoughts on that so are you saying two days for within the co-located structure or outside of that structure yeah two day co-located event structure yeah so in 2022 we had the two days of collos and we did have events that would fall over both days like cloud native security con did however in kind of adjusting to more of the four day format for Doopcon based on feedback and you know the length of the week folks having to travel on two weekends we've reduced just the footprint of the event itself so not to say that there isn't an opportunity to kind of look in how we could differently position co-located events I don't see a full additional day being added across the board for all collos thanks any other questions alright thank you events team moving into training inserts I'm going to run through these real quick because everybody has access but here are training enrollments everything's looking good any CKA certification updates CKS updates be sure to click through these on your own CKADs KCNAs PCA certification updates and ICA so with that we're going to come down to our last couple slides are key takeaways key takeaways for our meeting next meeting is April 3rd sorry did someone have a question okay next meeting will be April 3rd we're skipping next month for QCon be sure to register for the marketing committee and projects team happy hour we did this last time in Chicago and it was a great turnout it's a great opportunity to meet with your CNCF marketing team your marketing committee members and our projects team mix and mingle ask questions the link is live to register there is limited space so we ask for no more than two reps per company so you can click that link you should have an email in your inbox in the next nine minutes with that information as well and the Slack channel has the registration link too and then just be sure you're registered for QCon cloud native Con Europe and we will see you all there are there any questions before we final let's see oh yay Carla virtual birthdays yes okay alright anyone else okay y'all well we're thanks for joining us this will be online later looking forward to seeing as many of you as we can in Paris very very soon and keep any questions coming our way we're happy to help and everyone have safe travels we'll see you there thank you see you thanks everyone thanks guys