 I'm John Zuccarelli, I'm the commander in charge of low-voltage fuse removal and the safe work at height project. This project is looking after low-voltage fuse removal from the conception, from training right through to the equipment and where it will be placed and used out into the field. That's the same for safe work at heights. So low-voltage fuse removal is the CFA's ability to disconnect supply when safe to do so and safe work at heights is CFA's ability to work off roofs safely, which is a requirement from WorkSafe. Our packages have been built by our subject matter experts in the field and it has been endorsed by EnergySafe Victoria and endorsed by WorkSafe which is a really positive step for us to move through. The project team is currently rolling out training and low-voltage fuse removal has been rolled out to 82 brigades with about 25 brigades to go in stage one, which is about 420 members that have been currently trained or will be trained in the stage one process. The prerequisites for low-voltage fuse removal is the electrical awareness safety package that can be delivered either face-to-face or can be delivered by the learning management system. Safe work at heights will be rolled out very shortly. So currently the package is being finalised and will go out to consultation and we've targeted 32 brigades. Now with both packages they will be delivered to a class 5, 4 and 3 brigades with 1s and 2s being selected at a needs basis by the operational manager. The beauty about these packages is it gives us the ability to work safely wherever we need to do so. So in the low-voltage fuse removal space we can actually disconnect supply, work safely and then hand over to the power company and with the safe work at heights we can operate off a roof without the risk of falling off and it also gives us the ability to do a dynamic risk assessment whether we perform the task or we don't. So it really increases our ability to understand the conditions that we work in. Once you have the qualification in low-voltage fuse removal and work safe work at heights there is a three-year recurrence and what that means is that every three years you'll need to come back and redo the skill but coupled on with that there will also be changes because as the industry changes in the electrical world that we were able to pick up those changes and incorporate them into the package. With safe work at heights there is also a three-year recurrence. The safe work at heights training is a two-day course which incorporates all the prerequisites delivered on the day and after the second day you'll be qualified in safe work at heights. Low-voltage fuse removal once the prerequisites are done it is a one-day course that's approximately four to six hours of theory and then four to two hours of the fuse removal process and once that's completed the equipment will be sent out to the brigades and the minimum numbers for brigades to be trained in low-voltage fuse removal is four members per brigade and then the kit will be sent and for safe work at heights it's a minimum of five members per brigade. We're looking at a target audience of roughly about 20 people per brigade for each discipline so it gives us flexibility and it doesn't put the burden on the members that are trained but this is in stage two and stage three rollouts which will be in the next couple years.