 अंबात कर हैं दे फाइग है याज भोमिनुम में खामूंवल गेम्स हो रहे हैं और इस समें आदद, इंपक्त, लाँन भोल्ज विनिस की फाइनल में सावद आप्रिका के साथ फाइनल चलगे, वुद्दो शोट से लीप करे हैं, में साथ वोपे आज हैं, वुस्लिक के स्वोर्ट सरेटर लेज्ली जेविय, जो गापी देडाएई से खामूंवल गेम्स को देख रहे हैं शावद, इस कमे भी अपने मोभाईल के लगे हूँ हैं. और वेब वोग रगनंदन, आप वोद of whom have covered multi-disciplinary sports events, several of these events, the sports at these games specifically, including hockey, weightlifting, wrestling, jugo, and several others. Unfortunately, none of us, I think, today are experts on the gold medal match that is currently underway, which is lawn bowls. But, in 2010, when the Commonwealth Games took place in Delhi, at that time, some facilities were built in Delhi Public School, etc. These were practice facilities, competition facilities. So, from 2010, we are covering lawn bowls. And often, it's one of those sports where the oldest competitor, etc., etc., is participating. It's called a multi-generational sport. As you can see, if you're watching the games live, while the show is on, young athletes, as well as old or more experienced athletes, all competing on the same field. And it's a historic first opportunity. पहली बारे की अदिया की तीम फाणल में है, gold medal match खेल रहे है. This is, of course, in a way, as Lesbians were saying earlier, this is the final frontier of colonialism, lawn bowls. Because it's mostly, at least in the West, in many of these countries, of course, it's also played in public parks and all of that. But a lot of it happens in private clubs and places like that, whose culture, of course, is not in India. But because we were hosting the Commonwealth Games in 2010, it's a legacy of India's journey in the sport of lawn bowls. And I think because the facilities were created at that time, because of that, our team comprising of lovely Pinky, lovely who's a friend of yours actually, whatever. So why don't you tell us a bit more about this team that's competing for the final right now? I wouldn't go as far as to say friend. But in fact, her and Rupa Rani Tirki, who was the star of the same final, since you watched it, you probably know this. Better than anyone else watching the show. So they are both from Jharkhand. The national team is also mostly based out of Jharkhand. In Jharkhand, training is done. They both train in Ranjhi. Lovely works with Jharkhand police. Her job is in Ranjhi only. And Rupa Rani Tirki is in Ramgad. She is employed in the Sports Council. So it's our sport. You talk as much as you want, but this is Jharkhand. अजकल खाफी सारी स्वोट जार्कन के स्वोड़ हो रहे है, atleast वोची स्वोची स्वोड़ है, in fact there is a, even the person who brought lawnmowls also have not brought lawnmowls but developed this whole team, national level tagle jayenge, international team is also a former cricket empire from Jharkhand, Madhukan's Patnaik. यो रहागी और बने अचली ना पर मेदे ठाई रहासा, of an Australian cricketer independently, Steve Waugh who used to play lawnmowls recreationally. मदुकार पद्नाय कोस सेथ की यार ये तो अच्छा स्वोट है, इस में ना जादा मैंनत लगती, ना कुछ पिसिकालिटी है, इस में बस चतूर वोना वरता है, और इस में दो इंदिन से बहुत अच्छे है, तो उनो ने यहां पर इंट्रदॉस करिवाया, आप आप आप आ� लॉनबोज, अइस क्या सच्चा यह जा नहीं यह ये में दी ब़ाते है न है, ये च्छनब दो ळोडा है और खेलते है, लोंबोज आप दो देते लिक तो भी प्रतिख ना, जच्छा करी लेटी, वो भात वो ना, यह गन गन और वोश्वाद यह बाशार, तहीज, अवाल ता की वो ज़े ख़ारदा उननाच्तरना जेवाला हैं बीदी, अवाल ता वाल डेएंटावा, आप ठुफ़ी श़ श कोंई, ये वो दुप भीम, यह शेले न वत-वुरच का लागी न वाल उनगा, ये अवाल गो गर बार था, यह चो शातते र । । । । । । उस्वेज देखाना बाहर ये अगा अगा लेज लान बाहर थाना बाहर है, वेगर बाहर ये बगर जाए सब वेगर तरैस्ची लीज बेजती है रोध्स. उस में शे दील देखेटे हैं तो, लोग कोन से भी बच्यका है अगले दिंगे. वारुन and कुरजा, हैश्वट! शो अऴा, और उप से ज़िश़ रहार कि लिए था आप वो बवेग जो, तो आप एखना, वारून and कुरजा, अप अप वेए वाग कि लेगत गर था वो ग़ा वेगतग हैँ, अ worst freedomಗ्ना स्को तुत्तर् them युई pastelЕН6 Mahluse देृ there शा anesthe देू थ ét वर्न तॉत्र मैं चा Adult आफना वीखा यूग टि्स्ऩपक में आदिर यह थीन के जाँगे रवेत यह ख़िए कुटूए end of time, the leaders and the team did not do enough to bring it back on point. यह आपनी जागे नहीं के यहाँ देखान, वो आपके जो at one point of time there were 9 men. यह टरा्लिए वो आपनी ट steroids के वो ठेलाझलेखे ख़िर चासट्नूए even 4-5 minutes with 9 men, this is not going to track in international hockey, this does not track in national level. you cannot withstand that level of pressure okies is a game that is super fast you are subbing players every 3-4 minutes u are playing with a team that has 2 more players and the second card, gujjan's card a 10 minute yellow card with some 8 minutes of the game left ridiculous there is no reason for you to be doing that you are absolutely okay just hold your line उrisk, उसा शहका, अब भ़ा वो लगी सकहे, और मोगा का ढ़ रहा है. वो वो बमे नहीं मुम्सा वह कि वो वो सब लिए लोगा वी को लोगा लैके रहीनं, वो भवो वो वह कि रहीं वो वो वह कि वो वह गयानोगे करटा सकटा, जक तेटना है, तो जिसा के टर them तरे वोूछा। छिए देखो eye we were having this conversation on Twitter तीटना में जास जब गर है Aber I had put out an overconfident tweet of my own में दितान में लेजी किसे अचायता को, रहा है, नहीं मही फ्लिजगा शवाट्स झान, मुलिई सी शीख़ कतका। जो क्या जो कर अचायता है, नहीं औो बकुगतैं तो आना ञाखात्ते आदी वार्ते थाकृते है। तो आन तब वईखों हमाहायग आए ती, बखुगते नहीं और बगुगते किसे, उसके अगे देखते है, क्या होगा? अगे नहीं, वूमन्स्टीप का, situation also it's again rebuilding part of it also right. World Cup performance was pretty poor. So they have to bounce back here. They have done decently but it depends on how it gets done. I would not say again, I would argue that I would not say that their World Cup performance was poor. Simply because यही है, this is the expectation. Honestly, like I believe. When you are building a squad like this at in women's hockey, we are not among the top 4 nations in the world. At that level, we are not. So at any time, if we are talking about India's performance at the world stage, we should say that if we are in the top 8, then it's a good thing. The Olympics that took place was the tactical Noah of short marine. Everything was clicked at that time. And that's why it happened. Australia against Upset, that was a huge Upset. And in that, Savita Punea who gave the presentation, it is impossible to replicate. By my count, of the top of my head, at least 10 open chances. So it's the same. So it's not like that. So it's Marine's book. We often have the famous Padrakar, the famous sports in India. Farada Ugra was telling that Marine's book is going to be very open. So if you are a hockey fan, then definitely Indian hockey fans, then wait for that book. Like we are doing. And I think the last web of 2 also write us a review of that book and let us know whether it's worth going out there and picking up a copy and seeing what's been going on on the insides for so long. Particularly during the time when it was very interesting. Pandemic was going on. And I think hockey, as a sport, tried to make sure they were not too badly impacted by the pandemic. Anyway, we'll move on. So sorry, go on. No, I was saying but that is exactly the reason that India did well at the Olympics compared to other nations. Because our players got facilities like Belgium, who won the gold medal by the way. Last year, February, since the pandemic started, from then till February of last year, they couldn't get a national camp. Team players couldn't come to one place and practice. So you think of the level of those players who played a few test series and won the gold medal. And our boys got good facilities. They were very careful. They were completely banned in Bangalore. And this is also a sad thing that they couldn't spend time with their family. Short Marine, for example, they couldn't go home. All the girls in the team used to say that they were talking to their kids on Skype. So because of that, now maintaining that is a different thing. By the way, I just want to say India was in England, women's hockey. So if you get a change from yesterday, then that's good. Absolutely. Let's stop talking about hockey. We'll move on now to the weightlifting as well as the judo, where India have already won a few medals. Before the context, you and I were covering weightlifting in the Delhi Commonwealth Games. The wonderful Indra Gandhi at the Indra Gandhi Indoor stadium has made great weightlifting hall facilities. And Ravi Kumar as athletes excite on the front page. Because weightlifting is not a sport even at the Commonwealth Games where you can do a lot of things. So what is such a different team? One quick point is that when there is an English commentary it is very interesting. Most of the time, I guess, English and Australian commentators come from these countries. They are very surprised. I have often told them that this Indian team is very well coached. Somehow these brown girls have been taught to play. They have become very organized. So what is going on in weightlifting federation? Actually our athletes are world class on earth. What facilities are getting these days? These games records are much behind these world records but there is some progress in Indian weightlifting. I think Leslie seems to have actually when in Gold Coast India got 9 medals today is penultimate day competition and we have got 7 medals already. And the commentators are saying that it is a well coached unit. There is some truth in this because the national coach Vijay Sharma is praising him a lot. If you are watching weightlifting then you will see even if you focus on camera you will see it because he is about 6-7 inches and he looks like a weightlifter. And he is Leslie's brother he is such a big guy he is very tall and I have put him in the mirror. So he is praising him a lot. Many people say that he has brought a lot of change in the Federation he has brought a lot of change in the methods of training. Meera Bhai Chanu who has worked with him in the last few years at his insistence a psychologist has come with the national team. In weightlifting if we think logically then we should need a psychologist because he is a very mental sport. But in India there was never such a thought that we will need him. And for me even at that time he was also a weightlifter. So this is that the techniques have changed and it is also that the commentators are getting surprised because when you hear a white person surprised there is something that happens to the TV that is very enjoyable. Let's see the surprise factor tell me no go on I just have a problem with the surprise factor at all because what are you talking about your country has sent its best weightlifters to a stage like normal games and you think that they will send a team which is not well coached or they are looking that's exactly that's exactly the way if you look at how even the boxers no but I also disagree with this because honestly if you were watching the weightlifting yesterday if you saw the weightlifting 71 kg category in the women in that there was a girl from Nigeria who was among the gold medalists and because of the bad coaching she finished with no lift so it was not like that's what that's what India at these games or now India as a sporting nation at this what is called the elite level or in terms of facilities like you were mentioning about the hockey team earlier and compared to Belgium so across sports at the elite level I think India is spending more money per athlete and the kind of overall facilities that are being extended to these athletes I don't think many countries around the world can claim that kind of absolutely not you are absolutely right so in that context is India's participation at the combat games are we now one of the the sort of I mean like one comment was saying on the chat that in Raj athletes are not getting the right type of participation so is that the reason why our medal winning rate has been reduced I don't know what the rate has been reduced but the gap between let's say now no middle income country like India and what we are spending on sport forget about overall you know country situation is versus so many other countries of these 72 that are participating at the combat games that gap is quite big and is increasing hey the structural spend on sport it sort of changed the system the way it's approached the way it's evaluated even performance evaluated to ensure that the right kind of support goes to the right kind of people with potential more or less again 2010 combat games was a landmark even in indian sport in that regard also because before that before years before the project started and it reaped dividends even at the 2012 London Olympics because the athletes program that is who went to the program for the combat games they level grew to a substantial stage where we got the record at that point record number of medals from the Olympic games as well and then the system that was in place it just from there it was built because private parties also have come into the picture agencies have come into the picture and they are also extending support and sort of a corporate boom has also happened in sport where some of the Olympic athletes get status on par with picketers almost on par with picketers that sponsorship buys money buy so there is a lot of money that is coming into the sport directly indirectly via that channel as well so in that sense you can say sport in India is booming but at the same time the performance that indian athletes dish out outside for instance let's go back I mean let's always not forget that combat games is great but we are winning medals but let's also not forget that we should always because India as a nation as far as to be one of the global top marking nations in the global on various metrics so let's not forget that the aspirations should also be to reach that global level that's why global level so that's why we celebrate that sport and so when you look at the world championship that was recently concluded in Eugene, Oregon it was performance wise if someone reached the final for instance we had another Javelin we reached the final too but his performance was way below par from his personal best so that way when we look at the weight lifters here we need multiple medals like Vaibhav said 9 medals last time around so we are not a new we are a powerhouse in formal weight lifting but the quality of the weight lifting is nowhere near to forget global standards Asian standards because China Chinese side in that sense more or less the same more or less the same one more small thing I will point out one more small thing which feeds into the less we are talking about till now India has got 7 million weight lifting there are only 3 categories in Paris Olympics that is another aspect as well so when we look at the quality of lifters of course Mirabai Chanu is world class and she pushed herself she is fighting herself in that sense in the competition but she is the world record 119 kg she finished with 113 so she couldn't push herself beyond that which is fair enough in that sense because for her the gold was sealed and also competition matters it's also like Vaibhav said as a cerebral sport people don't realize that so you need someone to push yourself and you mentioned coaching aspect of it also I was talking to Karna Malishwari then coached from the 2000 2000 games and he was saying that Malishwari could have gone higher and been competitive been victorious possibly a gold medalist also because she had lifted higher weights in training but they went conservative because they wanted to seal a medal and we are looking at another era of Indian sport that way in 2001 medal was big deal and so to seal a bronze was more important but that has changed now that's what Malishwari's coach was saying that in Mirabai Chanu's case or for that matter current weight lifters I mean they pushed for it they pushed for the medal whenever that quality level is there they pushed for the maximum performance in competitions so that outlook change has happened having said that Mirabai Chanu we don't have any other world class lifters in the mix we have potential among the couple of gold medalists so far in weight lifting both of them are young one of them is a junior world champion so we have potential but let's see how they progress down because it's a very ruthless sport also it has its own problems including doping so let's see how these athletes that celebrate their medals but the Commonwealth Games is not I ask you to say that weight lifting has arrived it's not let's accept that fact the good weight lifters they come from China, North Korea from these countries they are not common weight lifters so this is also about also Soviet Union sorry former republics former Soviet countries the Greeks, the Turks lots of lots of weight lifting legends that are not part of the Commonwealth Games I'm not sure the Greeks have won a medal in weight lifting in the year of the lord but for sure they started the Olympic Games but anyway okay I think we've been added for a little over half an hour it's been a good starting conversation with you guys, I think we should do a bit more of this movie many topics that have come out we can actually talk in detail you know the level of competition that you talked about in the Commonwealth Games the other one that you raised about New India if you are a broadcaster in India, if you see their ads then this is a new India a new India is being spread in the medium of these games so many different kinds of conversations are happening in this country at the same time so maybe the reality check that you talked about we will do this separately today's program we will conclude with just a couple of quick thoughts from you guys on what you are looking forward to athletics is going to start obviously shooting is coming in which India's contingent is quite strong oh no is shooting coming shooting is not coming sorry there was that whole controversy shooting has been removed so the 2018 total of 66 medals that we have from the Gold Coast how are we looking at in that regard we won't be matching that medals style in Khushua because we will get substantial chunk is removed because shooting is not there so we will get medals from the wrestling arena we will do well in badminton for sure and gold medals are expected in badminton table tennis again 2018 was a very landmark games for table tennis because we won medals individual gold also those were unprecedented feats but whether they will be able to repeat this time around that's let's wait and watch because it's going to be tight and so medal count would be lesser but and again one of our medal gold medals from athletics needed chakra is not there in the mix but then let's also not forget that the person who beats needed chakra at the world championship is also competing in he is also competing in the common game so it wouldn't have been easier even so far so athletics is a different ball game it's a tougher competition world level competition in a way more or less close to middle distance runners are there from Africa we will see spinters and players and athletes who are world class world medalists Olympic medalists who are there in the mix also and the same thing I just wanted to add something from the swimming pool also so here in Atraja I have done well two finals and he is he is showing potential but again he could do much more because if he had cleared his personal best I believe he would have landed bronze in the 50 meter event that was the level of the competition the level of the competition was lesser so but again it's experience again he is a young swimmer he has a couple of at least a couple of Olympics if he keeps on improving he could probably do well in the future so that's where we stand as far as athletics is swimming and all our concerns while traditional sports that India has been strong we are likely to win medals in those even squash I would like to add squash into the mix also we were medalists last time around too so expect a couple of medals from there as we look forward to look forward to look forward to look forward to India vs Malaysia mix team badminton final that is blockbuster stuff that is what we want and I think first the men's singles squash semifinal against Peter Kohl so it's a good warm up hectic warm up for the badminton final which should be really exciting to watch some of these there are some of these events in which the field is of course world class because like jesse absolutely this is a blockbuster building for any tournament absolutely like Lakshane when India were playing Singapore like he is beat in the world champion so absolutely top level field and it's a dream final squash doesn't have an olympics or any such thing so for them and squash also being generally dominated by of course the egyptians will take offense to this but otherwise countries have generally dominated the sport of squash so again it's kind of that olympic level and it's great to see sort of goshala at the age of 35 I mean the kind of squash he's playing I was watching his quarter final pretty impressive I was just thinking that only early part of my career I used to cover squash quite a bit when I was based in Chennai and goshal was young at that point I can't believe he is still playing and playing strong so it's good to see that show you Leslie but you won't get it in fact this also tells you how old it's a similar thing for me also Leslie because there was one junior nationals that was held in when I was in school it was held in Ajmer squash junior nationals that joshna chinappah had won for the first time and she is still there unfortunately I had to see her going out in her quarter final as well yesterday but she did well she has been around for a while and maybe just younger legs taking over a little bit alright thank you both so much for that and the few people who joined us this afternoon for this opening conversation on news click around India and the combat games both from a sporting perspective as well as a little bit of what's going on off the pitch off the field as well we hope to do a few more of these as the games progress there's another week or so of action to go of course covering not just what India is doing but also wider conversations around the relevance of the games and various aspects of sports related conversation that pops up including looking at where the games will perhaps go from here next where do they go in the future we've spoken before of how since back in 2002 the only city outside of the UK and Australia that has hosted the combat games is New Delhi back in 2010 so what really is the future of this multi-disciplinary sporting event which is neither based on a particular continent nor anything else and brings together quite a diverse and like a mix of people no doubt a great stage for many of these athletes to get a chance to compete to sort of start making steps into some kind of professional sport but beyond that is it worth the expense the taxpayers money that goes into it all of those things I hope you'll join us for those future conversations but for now we will end this broadcast thanks very much for watching do share and subscribe and like and all of that and thank you for watching see you in the next video