 I hope all of you have been able to submit your presentation slides as a part of the activity on the visual communication domain what we discussed yesterday and also the Moodle videos which I had uploaded earlier on. Today I am told that there are some people who have not submitted yet. So I am not particularly happy about this fact because I thought we had ample time to submit the thing and it was only to see how well you can articulate your knowledge about visual communication which you have gathered in couple of days apply it actually. So couple of people told me that dear sir do not you think the half a day deadline is too harsh on the participants ok. Some people are feeling that half a day is not good enough for this but on the other side couple of people told me that for a 5 to 6 slide presentation even one hour was sufficient for us to finish the whole thing and most of them finished within the time when they were in the remote center itself without being without taking it home or something and they just submitted. So yeah I agree with some people who said that deadline was harsh. So people who have said that this deadline was harsh I would like to just ask them this question what was so difficult there. So if you let me know I would rather rethink of a deadline again. So the question was from Siddha Ganga Institute of Technology Tumkur I would request them to raise a hand and I would like to transfer the floor to them, Shirpur Duree. So let me go over to them and ask them why, what is that they feel. Hello. Sir yesterday we did the assignment and we found that it was very fantastic but at the same time whether we need to keep the new pictures there on the slide or not. We kept some picture there but we have not given the copyright and all those things below the picture there. So whether we need to keep the copyright below the picture which you have taken from the web. I do not know whether you attended my session before the lunch. So that session I made it very clear that you can add more pictures, you can delete the existing pictures but you cannot delete or tamper the content was what was explained. I think you missed out that session or something else. So it was pretty clear that you can add or delete pictures and like the good guidelines tell you that if you use a picture then give a reference. So if the sample presentation does not have a reference that is not following the good guideline. So you either delete it or you provide a reference that could have been one of the options. I have couple of other institutes lining up with questions apparently. The Institute of Technology Ujire actually I had I mean the content actually while designing the slides I was using different designs the limitation of upload as a 2MB as a PDF file. I faced a lot of difficulty I had to change the 2, 3 designs when I convert into PDF file it was crossing 2MB. So I could not do it as on my wish but what finally some slide it was a smarter decision on my side which I can fit into 2MB. So that is one difficulty faced while doing the assignment. I got the question now that 2MB thing was rigid I agree 2MB was a stricter constraint I had put in and but you know it will always be such a thing. In fact what you are forced to think at this point is the necessity of each and every image which you are using and the size of that image also matters. For example I will tell you about one interesting thing so you have a presentation slide and you use a background. Now if you are going to use the same background for all the slides then it is ideal practice to put it as a master slide rather than keeping it everywhere that will help reduce the number of bytes utilized by the presentation number one. Number two if you are going to use an image in one particular slide but you have a very small size of the image to be used you want it very small in the presentation. Then when you download from the net do not download a very high resolution image. Download a high resolution image only when you are going to use it in a big size. If you are going to use a very small size download the big size image does not matter but use some image editing tool to reduce the size of the image in first place and then use it in the size you want to show it on the presentation. What people make mistake is that whenever they download from images from the internet they download the highest possible resolution and then insert that in the presentation and most of the time they reduce it to such a small stamp size for and the image size itself is like one and a half MB. So that adds to the whole noise and in terms of size it just increases size exponentially for no rhyme or reason. And the third and the most important thing be very critical of what image you want to use. Now remember the video about graphics and use of graphics in learning please ask yourself the question is image adding to some communication what I am trying to say is it only a decorative image it is just attracting attention of people or it is showing some relationship in the data is it going to represent something all these questions have to be asked before taking a decision whether I need a image or not. I have seen most of the times the presentation have images which are purely for decorative purposes and we should avoid usage of such also it has been seen in the past whenever I given this kind of activity people wanted to make their presentation as beautiful as possible and by adding images they felt that it will beautify the presentation but that beautification is only superficial it is not adding any value to the content. The only thing you can see that it has some pictures in between to break the monotony of the text but that is not fair inside you do you should not use it for that. Such kind of decisions have to be deliberately taken in fact what I felt was in the one and half hour or two hour slot what you got in the lab almost 75 percent should have gone in this thinking and only say 25 percent is required when you actually work on the slide creation tool that is what I was expecting ideally but let me see what outputs have come in hope I have answered your question. Yes sir I agree with your point but I would like to add two more observations what I made during the assignment one thing is it was purely I did not add any extra image in the beginning I just played with the slide designs and it was maturing a lot it was crossing 2 MB that limitation while converting into PDF that is one thing and second thing what the observation I had actually added one more image and I just checked it on and it crossed about 2.4 MB somewhere and then when I removed the image and the same presentation everything said same and when I converted into PDF it was around 2.6 MB so actually I removed the image and converted into PDF that MB was more so I could not get to what exactly the reason how it happened in all. Yeah this happens and I have seen this thing happening it is sometimes the bug of the software I have also checked out and I think this is something which you should all keep on doing just try out various ways for example there is a utility called PDF size reducer on the web so if you just upload your PDF presentation to that it will reduce it and it will ask you you want it under what and then it will automatically put it below 2 MB if you give up capping of 2 MB or 5 MB it will just reduce it like that now these are tweaks we have to why I am answering in detail for your question is also because that I fully sympathize and agree with the points you are making and I do not want to debate with that but you should look at the other side where almost 1700 people have submitted a presentation below 2 MB right so I cannot take this as a case which is prominent enough to be discussed but I am just taking it so that it will thrash out the doubts in the minds of so many other people who had this problem probably but on the other side if you look at it more than 50% of people were able to get a presentation under 2 MB which is possible so whatever things are possible we should not debate on it it is somewhere that we are making a mistake about and we should retrospect in that I am telling you some cues about how you can manage with that and I think that should be done in fact if you choose a template of the image size the layout size also depends what size a template have you chosen and so on and so forth you can in fact try on different computers and the size may change also Microsoft is perfectly capable of giving you such magic outputs right so let us not get into that thank you very much for this I would like to go to the next query sir I am coming from those people who have completed the assignment in time but somehow couldn't submit it actually when you put the link of this PPT at the time the submission link was not there so I completed the all the assignment before 2 o'clock and one line was written over that that this assignment is not to be submitted actually it was for the next assignment for OER but somehow understand that this assignment is not to be submitted and after completing both the things I leave the remote center so I completed in just 10 to 15 minutes but because of that misunderstanding I couldn't submit it so can you please open the link for 10 to 15 minutes so that I can submit okay this is a very peculiar problem and so how many people in your remote center had this problem by the way sir one or two members one or two members so one important suggestion here and I am I am not talking about assignment or anything right now here please listen carefully how many people are registered in this remote center by the way 19 very good out of 19 two people could not submit it right which means that just ask if others have submitted it the point I am saying is that if you understand the design of this FDP we are asking people to come over to remote center for a face to face interaction so this two days is for face to face interaction do you agree with this the face to face interaction is mainly for interacting with peers so the moment you interact with your peers then you know more information about everything for that matter and in fact I find it very odd that this person was not communicated the problem by other 17 people that okay this is not the link and you should submit it here or this person never inquired with his neighbor that where is that link where I have to submit it so the whole essence of this faculty development program and this face to face is to nurture interaction between you all so now that you raise a point the Karnataka person is able to get the answer immediately that is because you ask the question but similarly if you ask the question within the remote center itself that where is that damn link I am not able to find it then 10 other people will stand up and tell you okay here is the link you are looking the wrong link my friend please submit your copy here that would happen and that is what we would like to have in this kind of interaction it is not about whether you submit and you do not get the submission chance or something like that is incidental creating a presentation is not a kind of a rocket science knowledge you are getting out of it it is not about that it is about how you are interacting with each other how you are benefiting from that interaction that is the whole point sir you are absolutely right but we do interaction regularly this is because of this misunderstanding that this assignment is not to be submitted if the link was not there I could have called him at night that is this links has shown up but it was clearly mentioned that is why I couldn't ask I know but your idea is right dear friend the point is that other 17 did submit they also might have read this sentence there but they did submit so my question is this if you are planning to submit something you have so many channels to communicate with each other and I think let us take it in a positive way that if you develop a group of yourself and then keep interacting so if at 10 o'clock midnight you put up a message to all saying that have you all submitted I thought it was not for submission immediately clarification would have come that okay you are missing the link please go to this link and submit it I do not want to reiterate much about that but I get the point I will ask my people if they can really open the link and let you know sir I have to point out that as in your slide it you have stated that you have to use sans serif font but as I converted that sans serif PPT into PDF so it converts into some unknown characters like Chinese character who have some smiley faces but when I convert same for in real so it convert very well so I think there is limitation in user font while converting PPT into PDF which font did you choose for sans serif so simple only sans serif that's it the font was using okay let me clarify this is a very important and good question wait I will clarify first the sans serif is a type of font and it is incidental that it is also a name of a font but what I meant by sans serif is that it has to be a sans serif type of font the sans serif font is where you don't have the corners which are slim on the top like Times Roman you can see that is a serif font now if there is a font called sans serif on your system then typically this problem may come and if you try and see again the sans serif font itself we have multiple choices within that list of sans serif font because it is a font which is used by many people in the world this can happen to this font I would definitely change my slide and mention it there but when I mean sans serif it is the type is a family of fonts which have no serifs so the popular fonts in those series should be used because they are best for conversion I think the sans serif what you chose had a problem because of the character set which it uses and sometimes it can take character set from Chinese so these things are very commonly seen therefore my suggestion is please I will again repeat myself but for sans serif option if you want to use the font which is sans serif then go with the popular sans serif fonts like Helvetica Futura or Ariel if you want to use serif font go with the popular serif fonts like Times New Roman Palatino or Garamond but when you go to Linux or something there will be some other fonts please check the problem and if you find there is a problem then go to other sans serif font please remember sans serif is a family of fonts which don't have serif so I would also change the slides where I have written you sans serif fonts but I will write now sans serif family of fonts not the font named sans serif I hope I am clear. So the question is related with font in fact yesterday only but our center was disconnected the question which I wanted to ask yesterday itself is it that we can use multiple type of fonts in a single presentation can you elaborate multiple types of font for example as you said the family of sans serif right now we do have Ariel we do have sans serif itself we do have Helvetica itself. So that is the three types in a single presentation or is it ideally recommended that is single font in the complete presentation the answer to this is like this first I am saying that for presentation purpose use a sans serif family of fonts now you have a range of fonts in that but within the presentation choose only one or two fonts to the maximum now here I am saying the name of the font I am saying if you use Helvetica maximum you can go up to Futura or Ariel or any other sans serif font for that matter but within a presentation try not to mix font families first of all so like there can't be like heading is in times you are over and the rest of the text is in Helvetica but that creates a visual disturbance at the same time when you use Helvetica on the top then you cannot use Futura for the rest of the text it is also very complicated in terms of when people are viewing it normally you should use a single font all over the place but if you have suddenly for example at some point you have mathematics to be shown sometimes you have some equations to be shown they come in their own fonts at times so there you have the choice to use the second font and most of the time I have seen that these equations come in a serif font that's also fine as far as they are visible and they are readable I don't think so there is a problem I am talking about the kind of clutter which you saw in the presentation where one single slide had six different fonts or when you go from slide number four to slide number five you have another set of fonts on that slide number five so within a presentation you should you should maintain some kind of a decorum by reducing the number of font and thereby reducing the noise which the viewers will have when they watch the presentation right. I want to ask one more thing as the previous college prior to us had a long discussion about this submission of assignment I would like to say even at our institute there was a chaos and roughly 50 percent people have submitted others are ready with the assignment so that is what I want to submit to you now it's as you said if the link is open others can submit it today otherwise that's the question mark once again. I am really sorry to submit that not only the submissions have been received the 1912 submissions which you have received but further down we have assigned these submissions to the people who have submitted assignments so what is happening now is that in the session today you are going to assess the assignment submitted by others and give your feedback on that at the same time your submission will be assessed by someone else that is the model now here is a suggestion for the people who have not submitted in a particular remote center I request the remote center coordinator or someone there to take charge of that and do the same activity locally instead of doing it over Moodle now you have to do it locally so randomly select so I am going to come to that how you are going to conduct your lab assessment but right now to give you data 1912 people have submitted so we will go ahead with the assessment of those people and others will be continuing the same activity locally that much I can answer right now let us go to the next center please. We all have submitted our assignments as per itself and another thing is in one of the slides or in the video you had given us the guidelines for using graphics for e-learning that is type of graphics can you just elaborate with some example like when should we properly use the types of graphics can you just elaborate with some examples. I would elaborate definitely but I thought the video was having examples and deliberately if you see I had kept one or two examples instead of just one example whenever I was talking about the types of graphics so for that matter if it is a relational graphic then I was showing different types of bars and graphs let me also clarify at this point because the question has been raised out of the different types of graphics I think for the academic community I just gave it because the research was mentioning about these six types of graphics and their applications but as far as the academic work goes I can see that the first two or three types of graphics are absolutely not necessary to be even remembered by our community because we never should use decorative graphics we hardly use mnemonic type of graphic if you remember I had told you a mnemonic graphic is what is connected to a gesture or shape of so any action what you do so you have this January February associated with the knuckles of your hand so such kind of graphics is a type of graphic but we should not we would not be able to use it at all maximum what we use is a representational graphic which is kind of a screenshot which is mostly used the next graphic is the organizational graphic which is typically shown in the form of a tree structure or a mind map can be a organizational graphic we have relational graphic which are bars and graphs these are three one of the three of them are very popularly used but the transformational graphics where we show change over time are one of the most needed type of graphics what we should use and most of the machine explanations where procedure has to be explained are shown using transformational graphics because there is a change over time so what happens when the pulley comes down so all these phases are shown in multiple drawings and then that becomes easy explanation for that so I think if you revisit the slides probably you can ask a very pointed question right now I am not sure which type examples you want more I have one question for this assignment what is the objective so as we are already from computer background we know how to create and how to use this PPT so is there any specific objective behind this assignment okay what statement you just made is what ideal statement I would like to hear from everyone that since you are all teachers you already know how to create your slides and how you design your slide unfortunately it is not so and you will soon realize when you get the submissions to assess and you can see from your own experience how slides will be submitted I am not trying to point fingers at anyone it is a very neglected topic according to me that most of the time we tend to create some content in a hurry or in bike because of some reason or the other but we normally do not pay enough attention to the display factor of your content most of the time this is taken for granted that anyway if it is projected on screen everybody will see and if because I am going to talk about it everybody will understand so that is taken for granted most of the time and this less attention or inadequate attention to these kind of details hampers communication in a big way or I should put it other way around enough attention or adequate attention to these features will enhance the communication in a big way so if there is always scope for improvement in such cases and therefore we thought that we can get a glimpse of what teachers are able to do by introducing this assignment and the objective was actually to hold a mirror and see how presentations can be created for this and then we can analyze them and get some positive outputs out of that that was the objective sir I just wanted to ask a question about the assessment of the assignment we have submitted we are all submitted the assignment on time but the thing is you are going to say something about the assessment criterion right sir the thing till now what happened is the assessment criteria that have given in the website and in a written form but when we are assessing we are doing it very well but we are getting the assessment like satisfactory like someone is giving 20 marks someone is giving one mark so if the assessment criteria is not clear to everyone they will do just like that so the average marks we are getting will be getting very low there is a major problem we are facing from the starting of this program okay so I got this problem I think yesterday also someone raised this issue when Professor Kannan was answering and the simple answer to this is that when we do peer assessment it will always be a such a case because you do not know how people interpret the guidelines also for example when I said you the sans serif font in the presentation is the guideline I got one person who actually use the font called sans serif inside that so interpretation is not in your hands and especially when it comes to some subjective things like if I have to judge your answer then it will always be like that and but that is the whole power of using peer evaluation if you start getting into if you believe that my answer was 100 percent right but if it was mathematics probably it would have been there was no chaos in this because if you have given 2 plus 2 is equal to 4 machine will tell you 2 plus 2 is equal to 4 if it is a human intervention people might make some mistakes even if they see 4 there they will give a 0 but that is where we give it to many more people rather than giving just one person so we give it to four people so that the average out will be a something very sensible in fact in today's assignment we will also have a box or a message box for feedback so if people have given some feedback and they elaborate it because why they have given one mark or why they have given 0 mark or why gave given 2 marks they will be able to elaborate it in the text box given you can go through that and then you can read why this this kind of thing has happened I would also tell you one more example for that matter when you submit a paper for a conference or a journal you get reviewers comments most of the time you feel that the reviewer has written in such a manner that they have not liked the paper at all and there are so many mistakes in the paper which when you submitted you thought it was complete in all aspects but still when a third person will see that same communication without you talking to him or her there is absolute chance of the communication getting lost because the way you have written it need not be interpreted in the same manner by the person who is looking at it for the first time and that is the whole point of clear communication if I can communicate clearly then irrespective of the person who he or she reading it it will communicate the same thing wherever it is possible so we have to probably take it with a with a pinch of salt that these things will keep on coming we just have to pick up the positives here we are we are not I do not see this reflecting too much like your performance has said please understand and if there is a gross mistake in something please do write to the team here and they have assured me that they will take care of such a problem if it is very grossly wrong then we will definitely get into it but like I said said the sentence I will repeat if it is grossly wrong then what you have expected then we will definitely get into action thank you okay one more question sir I got the yesterday's assignment I have put some logos of the move provided instead of the writing like edx course era like all those things I have put some logos instead of the writing so is there any problem in that okay so you want to discuss the paper before the results are out so I cannot do that because the assessment will follow this and probably we can have another session where we can discuss the results of the assignments right now I would not comment much okay I will only give one hint about the question you have asked remember the guidelines for usage of images use images when they are absolutely necessary and they are going to communicate something so if you are used in that fashion I do not see a chance unfortunately if you get a reviewer who believes that you have used too many images then he or she might say too much use of images so give zero marks so that can happen and so these are perceptions so it at times it is not possible to say that only this is right and everything else is wrong so it is not possible especially in subjective manner but you should understand the perception what people feel so if you have created something for people and if people do not appreciate it you have to take it back so these kind of things happen even if I love to have animation in every slide I have I want to show because I believe that the page call will create a good effect on people but if people start telling me when I get a feedback that sir every slide page call come on are you are you serious I would not like to have that that is where we have to change our strategy because people are not able to appreciate it and it is not useful anymore the reason why I was using it and get back to a presentation which does not have any transition probably that is kind of thing we do because our belief is challenged and corrected by the people who are interacting with us so this kind of thing happens has it been scientifically established that tan serif font is more convenient for presentation and serif font are easier for print it is established in multiple researchers but the problem comes when you have to take a call of printing the PowerPoint slides or printing the presentation slides and distributing it to somebody or printing whatever the manuscript you have created and publishing it in a type of a poster somewhere else so these are the mediums of new age where we are going from one medium to other medium so seamlessly so it is typically a kind of a tradeoff which one has to decide depending on the actual usage of that medium so if it is a presentation I will tell you the simple reason that whenever you have a presentation slide to be made and the serif of the font may get disturbed and may not be visible from a distance because of the thick and thin especially if you see the zero the top portions will be thin so there is a possibility that when you present it the readability will hamper drastically at that time it is easier for the designer to use a san serif font same thing happens with the posters because the posters are printed in a bigger size but the sharpness is not achieved most of the time example could be the kind of flex printing you do these days if you look at it from nearer distance you realize that it has no finishing at all but when you see it from a distance you can read it on the other hand if you print a four page then the sharpness of the laser printer is much higher so you can read every alphabet even if it has that serif but it is very light on eye and that's why if you see all the novels or some kind of black and white printed material will always be in a serif font when it comes to printed material and I can post some references about this question definitely there are theories about this but they come from slightly different domain not from educational domain they come from visual communication domain I will post that thank you very much for raising this point. First of all I would like to thank you for this wonderful activity visual communication activity and I find this very helpful but there are few points that I want to make regarding their visual communication activity presentation first of all the slide which contained the image that some of the mock providers there was a list and beside there was an image and I felt that the I just want to ask you that if an image is sufficient to describe everything then is it necessary to write beside because but I felt that when there was no necessity to write the list because the image was itself describing everything so if you could have highlighted the image totally instead of writing additional so I just thought that it will be better to replace the writing with the image and secondly I felt that if even if I keep the list and the image beside then the image was somehow because the background design was something like that the image was hiding some of the green part and it was something the set the image was not setting properly on the white portion so that's why I thought that I either one I have to keep it so I just thought for the better look for the better for the better visual look I thought that it will be better to provide either the list or either the image so this is the first thing that I want to share and the second thing just I just want to say that I find that the design which was given in the sample ppt there was something like few slashed lines over there in on in the right section so I felt that when I was writing anything suppose the heading or the MOOCs content or everything so the slide lines was objecting that so I find that to be something that so I removed in my ppt the slide lines so is this eligible or not because you told right now that no content should be removed but in all for the sake of the better visual communication I thought that it will be better to remove this so I will answer I will answer this I repeat again I said that you are not supposed to delete any content and by content I I am deliberately said that you can do anything with the images but not with the text because text is we are assuming that text is correct now I am not going into the debate whether the text is correct or not I am just assuming that the text is correct I am not going to touch the text but when I say you can remove images and you do not have to touch text you are free to do anything else also for that matter you can create a new template and and do whatever you can you can delete the entire background you can remove the lines that is precisely one of the reasons I cannot go in much of detail because that would be like discussing the answers of the paper before the results are out and you are supposed to grade the results now but very particularly what you mentioned that these lines are obstructing me and they are creating a chaos in front of me is exactly what we need to address there are some background images used by people which completely destroy the communication at times why are these lines there just because people do not have the proficiency of going to a master layout and removing them or they just do not know how to delete them but they just go ahead with it assuming that people will ignore it but people do not ignore it I also thought that you might ignore it but you saw it and you also correctly diagnose the problem that the lines are not necessary here now the point is how have you address the problem is what would be seen when your submissions will be assessed by others now I cannot go beyond this point right now because we will be assessing it soon but thank you very much for raising this point and a good observation by the way this is about the presentation skills that needs to be developed so what you have done is we are supposed to upload a pdf file probably this is because of some problems with portability but there were some embedded figures which were unnecessary in the power point slides though those cannot be assessed properly in a pdf file it would have been better if we could upload the ppt file so that it would be easier to assess okay the answer to this is because we are dealing with a large crowd of around 2000 people and as a evangelist of open source and a computing in general I do not want people to get tied to a technology permanently so when you say submit a ppt then you are forcing them only to use the microsoft power point licensed software to open it and even see it they cannot even see it without a free tool now this is something which is not right according to me when we are talking to masses there can be colleges which cannot afford a microsoft power point license although I am sure there are colleges who have pirated a copy of that which is very unethical by the way and I would like to take this opportunity to share this thought with them by the way please remember microsoft power point even if it is installed on your computer does not necessarily say that you have licensed copy of that unless and until you actually have a receipt of the purchase please remember this second and most important point because you have brought in which is my favorite point world over it has been seen that typically the features utilized from microsoft power point are not more than 16 to 18 percent of what the software is capable of doing these 16 to 18 percent are available in other open source variants like open office and librae office also so why pirate a software when you can use the same 16 to 18 percent features in a free software is the simple question I ask many people but the answer most of the time is that I had never knew that I am using a pirated copy is the answer so most of the people are not aware I highly recommend you all to please ensure if you have a licensed copy of the software not only because it is unethical but it is also showing a bad example for your students so if you proclaim in the class that I am using a software which is licensed or because I cannot afford it I am using a free software which is capable of doing the same things what your license copy is able to do then this will give a very nice and strong message to all the students who are followers in some way so we did not put that clause simply because everyone will not have access to power point number one number two that sometimes when you make a power point slide presentation and mail it to someone the layout and the fonts may get changed because of the system specifications of the other person who is using their own system to view your presentation and that is fairly common it is observed that if in a PDF it will minimize this problem although there is one issue here that if you have put a transition between two slides that may not be visible on the other side which is there but right now we are only going to talk about the look and feel of the whole presentation and not the actual presentation technique where we are using slide transitions and all that therefore we decided to use a PDF next time onwards if you are going to do some such thing we would rather actually ask you all to record your presentation in a screen cap video and upload the video itself so that you can do everything what you are planning to do and nobody has the dependency of using either a power point or a LibreOffice or OpenOffice software for that did you get it thank you I have a small solution approach for the peer assessment which I request to staff from IIT Bombay to kindly consider the problem about the peer assessment has been widely expressed and there is a widespread discontent all over I have a small solution approach what we can do is we can have what we can call it as a two stage peer assessment or if we can call it as a spiral peer assessment what we need to do here whatever the assessment done and if the candidate is not happy he can put his comments and it can be sent sent back to the same assessor it's something like a reevaluation along with his comments what are the problems he had so that he can return it along with you know along reevaluating that along with the reassessed marks I I certainly hope this is going to solve 60 to 70 percent of the problem the advantages in this method is number one IIT staff need not work additionally number two the psychology of questioning the psychology of comments will work I would like to share my own experience in this I did this experiment in my college when if for one class of the students for one of the test I asked the students to evaluate a sort of peer assessment there was the same situation there was a wide discontent there was there has been done wrongly next time when I did I asked who has done the assessment I asked them to write their name gave it gave it back to the respective students and asked them to discuss amongst them about why he is happy how we can be and I requested the students to reevaluate believe me sir there was more than 40 to 50 percent improvement in the acceptance of the result so the reason is why I am saying is no I IIT faculty I get the point and I accept the point I I believe that this will definitely solve the issue we are only trying to see how we can incorporate that in moodle and how the software will exactly reassign the same thing again to the same person who had assigned it or assessed it earlier so it is a smaller technical issue rather than maybe administrative issue we will definitely take care of this and precisely the power of collective intelligence is showing up now so people are trying to give solutions rather than just posing a problem so thank you very much sir for this. Sir the first is regarding the yesterday's law enforcement actually for other assignments we have had examples as examples that actually provided a standard format and this time it was just an PPT that we are supposed to be perhaps rectified so whatever modifications we could do so all of us have done but there is no standard format and although your lectures had provided the guidelines but still there is a lot of there may be a lot of variations that would be submitted okay so yeah so I agree with this and visual communication is all about that variation it is a very subjective topic by the way if I tell you that I in sans serif font I hate aerial and I only use Helvetica you may not agree with this you may say that I do not find any problem with aerial why are you so bothered about it it is not about whether it is a fight between aerial and Helvetica it is about whether I am able to communicate or not now even if there is a variation in every once presentation what you have prepared and when it is shown to the third person not probably your neighbor or someone and if he or she is unable to understand and appreciate the communication I think your problem is solved therefore there cannot be and I have been repeating this point these guidelines are just for your help in order to take a decision but these are not cast in stone because they can never be cast in stone it is totally up to the perception which happens after you show a particular image font line text color or whatever that is variable and it will remain variable across cultures across people across various nationalities at times so that will remain there and we cannot debate on that therefore what you have done is right and just wait and watch do not be so tensed about whether this variation will create a problem in your assessment so yeah I think if you have done to the best of your ability that you feel it is communicating I am sure four of the other people will definitely agree to this point so let us go ahead to the next question my question is the assessment criteria for the presentation is yet not given where will we be able to you know assess without explanation or the explanation for assessment will be given to us right so the answer to this is that this class when we actually this session when we started it was supposed to be for the same thing I will be doing it in a minute now after I just take some of the questions and I was also supposed to have a question and answer session about the visual communication module in general what has happened is over a period of time we have just swapped the agenda for the session so we started off with question answer now and now toward the end I will explain the criteria for assessing the assessment first of all I would like to thank you to clarify this thing on the peer assessment thing because I also was satisfied with that that you are relooking into the matter and now next to my main question with regard to yesterday's CPT presentation I just wanted to clarify one thing that the font which you have suggested if we have used anything like Burdana or any other font will there be marks deducted or something with regard to the font use or if it seems okay on the slide it is fine we can use any of them okay the answer is there won't be any any mark deduction about the name of the font as such there is nothing to do with the name of the font like I said it is about the font family and also that is in general I have repeatedly said that so for example when you when you see the poster just behind you which shows the name of the remote center and the kind of course which is going on if you can zoom on that probably yeah so you can see that because this Purnima word is so big in size you can read it even if it is a serif font at the same time 4 week AICT approved FDP by IIT Bombay is in Assange serif font and I can read it but if I have to analyze this probably I will say that too many fonts in this thing so you can immediately see that avoiding so Purnima College of Engineering cannot be compromised because that is the logo of your college probably but you don't have to change the font for conducted by IIT Bombay and for the website so everything else is in different font May 2 to July 10 is another font so all these things give a impression to me that it is a chaotic design now due respect to whoever did that I didn't mean to start discussing this particular image that was not the objective of this but what I am saying is that when your presentation goes to someone and there are so many different fonts used and if the person points out based on the criteria which I will discuss shortly then you will have to take it as a positive feedback and then go ahead with it right but there is no absolutely no marks going to be detected because you use wordana and I don't like wordana so that should not happen and that will never happen probably let's see like one thing with regard to the image which was there the move providers and along with the image on the other side there were few names in case I have just used the image and remove the name content because the names and the image itself they are saying the same thing so would that I would like to cut this because this question was discussed already but I would not answer it pointedly but I will answer it pointedly now it is person is perspective that I would reduce the clutter by removing all the text list from that slide and just putting a image which shows me this thing now unfortunately that image was not made by me and that has so many other things which I don't want to show so if you did get a image which has something else also written there and some other photograph of some techie person working on computer or something which is not necessary and you still use that image person B might feel that this is clutter as opposed to just writing a list because what do you want to communicate you want to communicate that there is a range of MOOC companies which are offering MOOCs right now if this is our objective to communicate in that slide and we can communicate using either text or the list of images it is perfectly fine as far as it communicates only that the moment additional information starts bombarding there might be a reviewer who may think that this is going slightly over the top and say that this is not right but there can be someone who resonates the same idea saying that okay so what if the person has not written a list I can still read the names of the websites which offer MOOCs courses and there is some additional image of one person sitting in a corner and drawing some computer thing or something I would like to ignore that but that's that's a whole point it's about the perception if I see the image and the non-image area in a particular subjective manner that may differ from person to person and it will keep on happening so we will have four people telling us their views about this and we will definitely get so I see a lot of people getting much tensed about what will happen if somebody completely bombards our design so don't worry so much about it I would just recommend in some presentation we have got two mini plots and graph whether there is some effective way to address plots and graphs in a presentation that is a good question so thank god I didn't switch off okay so is there effective way to address the problem of using bars and graphs one important golden thumb rule is that visibility of this graphs is at most necessary so give as maximum size as possible whenever you place the graph in your presentations I have seen that in order to accommodate more information in the once slide people tend to add two three graphs in one slide because they wanted to compare all these three my suggestion is you can add more slides but have just one graph if it is a noisy graph if it is a detailed graph then only add one graph at a time present three graphs in three slides later on in the fourth slide you can show three graphs together and give your comments about the comparison part but because by that time people must have already seen the graph in detail they will relate to the points you are making but if you start with the slide having three graphs in the beginning then people will not able to appreciate the points you are making about the finer points of the graph which are not seen at all so remember whenever you make graphs in whatever software you use please ensure that you have very big thick lines have very good contrast have good text size and overall the image of that graph should be big enough so that the last person sitting in the classroom should be able to see it clearly whenever you are doing it so that is something I would recommend and I have already answered the question if you have multiple graphs what you should do hello in visual communication we have started with text and text went to image so in power point there are so many other visual communication components are there clip part here graphs etc and you elaborate on that usage animation ok so I if I understand that correctly you are you are asking about the other features in power point which are about animations so whether or not we should use animation am I correct ah yes sir ok answer to that is again coming from my last slide which tells that take this decision based on the content if your content requires animation for explaining something where you need text line number one coming after two and three and all that then use animation do not use because power point allows you to do something like that that is number one number two most of the mathematics teachers or people who are teaching mathematics in their courses prefer that animation of sentence one coming up then sentence two coming up and sentence three coming up that is the excellent feature in fact lot of people relate to this facility when they used to do the overhead projector earlier on so you write something on this and then you hide it and then show one line after another is or you write on the whiteboard one line at a time and explain the thing as a evolving process so definitely power point has that feature and it has to be used in a better way but about image animation like do you want to show this box appearing here and then blasting it out when it goes out I think they are quite unnecessary if they are not going to add any impact or any communication to the content what you are trying to communicate so please avoid all these jazzy features when they are not necessary but use the features which will be adding to your content and again please refer to the last two slides of my presentation where I say that the decision of choosing the strategy has to come up from the content which you are trying to communicate basically this is regarding the content of the ppt the ppt preparation is very nice and but the content is very different so how to assess this type of presentations how do you assess this type of presentation which presentation I did not get your point which presentation ok sir I will clarify the question subject is on artificial intelligence the ppt sir has received but he is from chemical engineering domain how to assess that type of different content achacha but no no you won't be able to get different type of content in this visual communication activity you are going to get a ppt about what you already saw it is about MOOCs so I hope everybody knows that we are not going to give you assessment activity for some subject out of what you are comfortable with we will try to keep it within the scope of this thing so that is all I can say but some participants have submitted in their relevant subject but that will not be so if you get such a presentation as a submission then please comment that this was not what we were supposed to do so we will not accept that kind of a submission I am sorry and in fact all 4 of the people will also say the same thing so that will not be a issue at all so this is regarding the assessment of last day's assignment when we are looking at the submissions somebody has submitted an assignment which is not the one which was provided that is from some other subject so how do we do the assessment I think you have just answered that question right now and second question is regarding the criteria that is given there are 3 criteria regarding the images like the appropriateness of the images size of image etc but somebody has removed the image from the sample ppt that was given so how do we do an assessment of that there is no option like a not applicable criteria I mean the first sentence itself says that use of images also means that if there is no image required and no images put up there and you are able to get the communication what is intended to you can give full mark saying that it is communicating without images also it is not mandatory that we have to use images all the time but I cannot write another clause saying that what if no images are used so there will be a debate situation there so what I mean is that use of images is the criteria in that criteria if you feel that the use of images is very good by not using any image then you can give full marks to the person that is it if you mind there is communication because I am talking about the flood levels have gone beyond certain point is the comment I am saying and I cannot see anything there then there definitely the image was required but I cannot see anything there and image not being used is creating a hindrance in my communication therefore I will give no marks to that person and write in the comments that image should have been used at this sentence at the same time if there was something which was very very easy to understand without any image being there then you can give the same full marks to the person saying that it was okay as a suggestion it would have improved the point if one image was used in this particular slide is fine so that kind of thing can happen. Yeah I wanted to ask that we were asked to support the PDF firing in PDF format so there was some transition yeah I got the question I think if you submit in PDF form then the transitions are getting lost and if you see the criterion for assessment there is nothing no criteria about the transitions because I knew that when PDFs are submitted we will not be able to get the transitions as they have been designed therefore there is no assessment will happen on this however in the next time whenever we do this we will probably ask a video to be submitted and I answered that already so don't worry transitions is only when you are doing the presentation live in front of someone and then you can get that feedback but when you just mail it to somebody it should be able to do it without any jazz in between so that I think will be taken care of. Sir my question is that if you want to do some video presentations inside the presentation PPT presentation and if you want to narrate what you are having as a subtitle is there any option like that I want what I want to tell it to the students I want to do it as a subtitle when you watch movies you will be having subtitles no if you want to add the subtitle from our own words to that video is there any possibility for that. There are some utilities available I would post about it probably it is not possible to explain everything here but there are utilities available that if you give a text file and the video file and the time code in fact Google does it YouTube has a feature for doing that we use it for our book videos transcription what you see there but you need a transcription text file along with the video and then somebody has to manually insert the time code where this word has been uttered or the sentence starts so once that is done and then it is saved as a particular format then you will get a video with the subtitles which are possible to be switched on or switched off based on the user requirement so that is possible and YouTube has a feature for that as a part of IIT Bombay course we have been offering various other courses and one of the course is called the 3D animation course now this course is a very basic course and it talks about what all can be done using 3D animation I have offered it earlier and there were around 5000 students when I offered it last time so this time we are again starting that course you can have a look at that course by going to IIT Bombay X and if you click on the courses link you can see that there is this course which comes up called basic 3D animation using Blender this course is based on a free and open source tool called Blender so I would request all of you to have a look at the course and see if you or your students or your friends from the town are interested in taking up this course it is a very short course it is a 8 week course and it has lots of hands on involved in it the amount of videos which are there are mainly to explain you the concept of what is 3D animation to visualize 3D what is the concept of camera what is rendering what is material what is texture and so on and so forth but it also teaches you how to use this open source software called Blender the advantage is that in future if you want to practice or you want to create some content in 3D the free software will help you in creating that we have been flooded with lot of students who wanted to take this course and they have done interesting work on that you can see most of that work when you log into this course and we will show you some websites where this web with the work of the students have been uploaded but right now I have here Institute Phenolix Institute of Engineering from Ratnagiri there were some colleagues in that Institute who had taken up this course and this time they are going to utilize this course for their internal consumption for their students also I would like them to talk about this course. Sir we have few of our faculty have already participated in your workshop Blender 3D we have completed that particular workshop and then we got when what we can say confidence in a way it is not a workshop I would just clarify it is a course yeah right it is a course so we got confidence that we can create some simple animation using Blender also and one more thing that Blender is already a free software so we can use that to develop certain animation those can be used in curriculum then continuing that particular point we also think that we can have some course which can be attended by our student so our computer graphically is one of the course given by University of Mumbai in that they have mentioned that you can have a session on free open source software so in that particular point we are going to implement that Blender course as a add-on course or we can say it is supplementary lab session to the student now we are thinking that the course which is now started over IIT Bombay again so in that course student will enroll their self they will register they will attend the course in the lab session they will go through those videos and then we will give some assignment then we will conduct some quizzes in the lab so it is some kind of flip classroom or something like that so we ultimately achieve two things the implementation of flip classroom is also there as well as student get the new course like Blender 3D so that is how we are doing and of course the main theme or we can say that main gain from the course is that we are now able to develop certain animations like the Karamboda animation which we have submitted as a project then after that we are doing certain other animations like transfer of packets over network and all those so that the students can understand the things or how the things actually working in the computer field okay so that is what our experience. Thank you very much for the information I would quickly come back to this session and just wind it up by saying that we have this course coming up I would be emailing all of you the information and the poster about this course if you have queries on that please reply on that email and I will take them up the course has been offered it is already online available and it is in a self paced mode which means that students can join any time and finish the course any time as per their will and wish but like Ratnagiri is going to try out they are going to ask the students to access the lecture in a particular time slot so that it can be converted as a flipped classroom and locally they are going to give some assignments to solve in another session of the course. I have agreed that I will spend one hour in a month for interaction with the students if they have any queries which cannot be sorted out by the local course coordinator which are these teachers who have already completed the course or they have some other questions about 3D animation in general I will be available for one hour in that slot so I think we have already shot up the required time and you all need to have your tea before you come back and meet a professor partner in case you have any other queries about virtual communication please let us know I would be available sometime immediately after lunch in case you want to have so please communicate to us in case there is some pressing requirement otherwise the schedule is like this you have the rubric which is already up on the website please read the explanation before giving your marks select the option and then keep going ahead in the statements finish the 10 statements for the given presentation be accommodative rather than being too much critical about what you are going to say but use the comment box to write your concerns or suggestions so that the person who will get them will understand and try to change it when they do it next time this assignment was about generating awareness and excitement amongst all the teachers about the importance of how fonts colors layout have to be utilized in a presentation what you are making I hope this has impact a long term impact on the way you have been creating presentations and communicating to your students I wish you all the best thank you very much