 Hello everyone and welcome to our retrieval episode, you know what it is, it's the episode number on the title of the video, there it is, and let's talk about, this is the topic of the video is Act 6, Act 2 of Hiveswap, the new thing that came out, let's talk about that. With me is me, Gibb and take, Gibb and circuit, sorry, sorry I'm so sorry and with me today is Steve, the illustrious human arm retrieval. It's really good and that's that's the show, yeah. The podcast that is simultaneously hated by its creators and we'll never die we will complete. Yeah it's the best show it's the only podcast and I'm sorry I'm being distracted by a lot of by a lot of cute girls wrestling I'm seeing in the background unrelated it's Hiveswap is not a wrestling game just so you know but I probably will put the characters in the wrestling game that would be fun all right so so Hiveswap the new act of homestuck arm retrieval what did you think overall well I'm glad you asked Gibbon, Karkit, Circuit, Man, Troll, Alternia because I just so happened to have a video on this very topic over on my YouTube channel called youtube.com slash diva it's a stunning and thrilling review of Hiveswap the game it's very relevant it's gonna get a lot of views and you should view it with your eyes and then subscribe to my YouTube channel and you'll get a very thorough complete objective analysis of the game based on the two hours that I played that's a very thorough that's a very long time to play a game for trust me and it's it's gonna be great that's what I said and yeah I thought Hiveswap was was pretty good I thought I thought it was I thought it was like if you take into account the amount of time it took to exist and the the troubles they had along the way and the fact that homestuck axix was created because Hiveswap and the fact that it was gonna be in 3d which looked great it's not bad but it's I can see why people would be not into it and disappointed but I haven't I haven't heard anyone say that they're disappointed yet so I don't know I think that literally everyone on arm retrieval except for us to said that Hiveswap is gonna be a giant pile of shit and then we were like ah the trailer looks pretty cute though I think it's just gonna be pretty cute and it's like it clearly resembles axix homestuck more than it does act one homestuck and that's a disappointment but it's it's it's it's cute and charming in its own way yeah I mean the trailer I feel like has the worst parts of the game which is the cutscenes which are like especially Jude's face his I mean I don't know what it is about those cutscenes where it's just his big face there is there it is but that's just not that interesting and it's a very small part of the game and I'm glad that that's not really there that much it's a lot more about the cool backgrounds which they don't show enough of in the trailers like those those are like really lovely details stuff it's not like just drawn like nicely it's like so many little things they drew in there like the types of toys that like that they've got the time period they have clues to the time period by like there was this little toy I noticed which was like a 90s cartoon of a shark tough guy is a mutant shark and it's like a very obscure cool reference of a toy that I actually had and I'm like yeah yeah they really thought about basically absolutely everything that went into the backgrounds they should have pushed that more but yeah I think it was pretty cute I liked I like I like when Joey was standing around being scared that's that's what I liked I wish I had seen that straight shark thing in the background I actually had like a different perception of the cutscenes I thought that they were like what a traditional cutscene is as like a reward for good gameplay so it should be like kind of a climax to to the moment but but even then even what I thought it would be it couldn't be because the cutscenes were completely broken and Balden will make your CPU and stutter and like they stutter but the timing of the cutscene doesn't stutter so if your cutscene stutters it will end early and if it stutters and never ever loads you'll get a black screen for like a minute and a half and then you'll go back to gameplay that didn't happen to me but I did have like a couple times when it stuttered and you know it didn't it just it loaded the very end and I'm like oh okay I guess he did something happened but I can't rewatch it so I have to play the whole game again I guess to know what happened I mean I can piece it together but it's like I don't they don't feel like much of a reward because some of them like really just there's two two frames two two images they're switching between and then others are like actually animations so I don't know yeah I couldn't I couldn't really tell what was going on with it because the game just wouldn't run well on my computer and now we're actually spoiling my video but let's talk about the video game oh my god game it's called HiveSwap and it's $8 on Steam and it's getting decently positive reviews I haven't seen a single review of it except for except for given circuits and what I thought about the game was that it was a video game it was a it was mildly comfy the backgrounds are super detailed I hope I'm fucking lagging out right now say say hey hey okay cool I thought I was lagging out for a second there I mean I wish I could have like appreciated like the the magnificent detail in the environments and exploring everything for flavor text my issue was the game just like wouldn't run very well cuz my computer is a fucking toaster and the flavor text like it didn't like make you laugh consistently but it was like it was charming and yeah it's characterized the character strongly like my video goes into like it's it's it's Homestuck light it's like if you want to if you want to taste of that sort of writing style but you don't want to be overwhelmed it's it's good for that you you get reminded of Homestuck by what by playing HiveSwap you know it didn't lots of things didn't make me laugh but it lots of things didn't make me cringe nothing made me cringe I think it was just sort of like yeah you nearly got there you know there's a couple times when there's like nothing you didn't really do well but like like those there was that one bit where it's like um obviously they wanted it to be like a funny meme moment where Joey gets the cracker and it's like oh the cracker and I'm like okay I mean I just had I just had to click on that shelf that's all that happened for that it's it's like implying that you didn't know to click on that shelf and you were clicking on everything else for ages and then it was a triumphant moment but you could have clicked on it immediately because there's nothing stopping you so it wouldn't have worked in that way for lots of people and it didn't for me yeah there's a few moments where they tried to be funny and it didn't work but most of it is like all right I think yeah I think most of it was just like comfy it was like all right I like this this environment's pretty cool and I look around and I want to click on things I want to get text it's it's very it's very all right and uh you know it might have been magnificent if the game like or and well dude like seriously yeah it's weird how about like the homestuck style itself the homestuck style itself is like anti synergistic to the game lagging because homestuck has animations that are just frames and like is is Jude's tap dancing animation a full smooth animation or is it jagged frames please answer me this because I can't tell you mean joey yeah the girl I'm so fuck joey she tap dances is it is it like it's still it's deliberate her well she like her standing still is just so like three or four frames and yeah um the tap dancing is a couple frames it's it's less frames than you would imagine obviously for like budget and time constraints they couldn't do as many in-betweens but I think the fact that they kept that relatively consistent throughout like walking around and stuff was all right but it's obvious why they did that they just yeah well it is a home it is a very homestuck thing to do I'm just saying that like that animation style really made me quest every single time an animation was occurring with that style I'm like is my game lagging is it happening right is it is my computer stuttering the animation by like one frame to make this timing like not land because like you know what she does when they do the like the jagged animation normally they're like really fast and kinetic either that or they have like really good timing where they punch but if they lag like just a little bit and that timing is like dead and it just it just looks like a computer dying in front of you which my computer is yeah I mean for me it it didn't lag at all it was just a couple times the it glitched out on the cut scenes only and the rest of the game was like smooth as as it you know it was fine you clicked on a place they go there the text boxes came up the the animations or nothing like fucked up in that way so it was never like wondering whether the game was lagging all right cool so it looked fine when it works I guess that's that's the moral of that like it looks okay it looks good when it's when it's running well I think they're trying to patch it to make it optimize better um I mean I hope they are if that you know they should something they definitely should do every game's got to be patched after it comes out what did you think of alternia the place the setting um I liked it I'm I was trying to think how does this fit into things but um I had forgotten that those drones were like in homestuck I think they were they were like explained as a thing before hiveswap and I'm like oh yeah now I get it yeah um the whole thing with the like they're in a like a low suburb a low place a low blood rust blood bitch blood fag blood area uh where they just nukes are dropped for fun because fuck those guys uh I I like that I like this idea that they're rebelling and this is probably gonna be a big old thing and it's um yeah it's it's I like the story I really want to see who that that mysterious person is at the end that they allude to in the next act I want to see if that's the the the risk of of of hiveswap there's got to be one I am I'm waiting for that yes uh you've finished homestuck years before I believe I haven't yet I'm reading homestuck right now live on arm retrieval guys we're on act six act two right now patreon.com right here right here give me money so my only my only exposure to troll world is pre scratch where everything was just alien and everyone was just an asshole to each other and you really didn't understand like the emotional gist of what of what the kids decision making were partially because they're uh impulsive teenagers and partially because they're troll aliens and we can't understand some of their things just biologically and so it so I'm not sure what to think of when I see alternia and hiveswap and it's like it's literally a normal house that Taboros lives in he just lives in a normal house and he has like pictures on his wall and he has like sports things yeah he's got like the the kick soccer game and all that I mean it's it's basically the same I right I don't know whether this is spoiling anything but I think this is still pre scratch no this is post this is post sketch scratch because like post yeah like um uh the the the original trolls that we never we haven't seen yet the ancestors they scratch their session and um then the world was recreated and doc scratch uh made all the trolls fucking psychopaths to make them stronger so that the next time they go in that doesn't happen and they don't have to scratch and they win the game which is the I think the idea so they're in this version of alternia where there's a lot of racism and weak people are newt uh which is it's it's scary ooh drones coming you know can't cross the street uh at all you'll die can't cross the street without a super speed animal to help you uh it's just like I guess I guess like what I can legitimately take issue with is how is how welcoming alternia looked everything like glows warmly and like if you think back at like carcass house it's like all dim and gray and harsh colors and stuff and it's very alien and all and the structures of the house are even told to be like weird and like designed by a 13 year old or a 12 year old yeah I'm wondering about that like like this is this is years before the trolls we know are around although the ages of like trolls vary by blood so they could have been around I don't know uh but like it it seems like in this suburbian urban environment that the trolls don't build their houses as kids because these are all like pretty uniform they just live here I don't know what the situation is there with that we don't know you could you could just kind of being like a just a watered-down version of homestuck where everything's just a little bit more understandable a little bit more straightforward yeah a little more approachable I just I find that argument though that hive swap is just like watered-down homestuck meant to get other people into homestuck kind of weird because hive swap was funded by fans of homestuck it's it's definitely weird but I feel like like I can see it from a business perspective in that the homestuck fandom grew big and then died out because the homestuck ended or was like went downhill or whatever and um I feel like getting new people just random new people into a game about homestuck would be more sensible because you know uh it would be nice for loads of people to enjoy this game that we're spending years making and money uh we want it to be good for the homestuck fans uh we want to put in a lot of references we want it to be like canon to the series but we want it to be uh something separate so that you don't need to read all of homestuck and then new fans can get into the whole thing I understand the the the decision making there it's just that yeah it is kind of weird that it's it's funded by homestuck fans big old fanboys some of which paid huge big bucks uh and there it's not just end of sentence and then I'll start another one yeah uh yeah so it's pretty understandable to like have a sensible business model that'll keep bringing the bread home so that you can feed your family and live but I'm not I'm not them I'm a very consumer minded person it's gotta be for me everything has to be made specifically for me and for me as hard as possible I want you to go full niche and I'll and and I want your art to be weird and un and unintelligible and still have it on steam yeah that's I mean I definitely approve of that mindset I just like thinking about all the others because like I there's no reason to think oh well it's a business they because like I think there's loads of businesses that I don't care about the businessman behind it so I'm just being like biased because I know that Hussie is a human and he makes art and I'm like oh good good job I guess good well done even though it's it's not really what I wanted I would have liked something with less Tavros in it I mean come on the only troll he's literally Tavros the only troll his name is Zefros it's like the name exactly it is half the name I didn't notice that part in the in the trailer Zefros looks like a suave cool dude he looks like a guy who's down to party and he's he looks like your best bro he looks like your best friend and then when you get into the game like he just like keeps saying sorry to you he keeps apologizing to you but he keeps like oh is this a test I don't know if this is a test man I'm sorry I'm sorry it's like dude you're fucking Tavros dog he's gotta get a spot people like Tavros and Eridan and there are fans of them dude why they're supposed to be hated you don't get it oh well well no it's not oh well I shouldn't be saying oh well I should be saying oh fuck you don't compromise uh well yeah I mean that's why I'm excited to see more trolls I want there to be a huge bitch I want to see what happens with the the fish bitch lady she seems like a good good good a good girl uh I will root for her no matter what happens probably yeah the way she was introduced was a bit eye-rolling for me maybe it's just because the cutscenes stuttering but like I mean like you know she's like oh she's like she's like the she's like the she's like the high school bitch who takes a selfie and then I think to myself wait a minute they just took a selfie earlier selfies are just a thing people take now that's just a thing the normal people do that's not I'm not above selfies hang on you just said that and I was just thinking Joey oh wait no no uh because like Joey's a 90s kid or like an 80s 90s kid oh yeah it's like 1994 in this game selfies wouldn't have been a thing but uh she wasn't the one to take the selfie she was told to do it so that he could see her face so it wasn't like she was taking a selfie but then she did it again later yeah she did it again later of her own accord yeah because I don't know she she wanted to see them both together well it's nice like I understand the sentiment behind it and like it's not a big it's not a big problem it's not a big like it's not a big do selfies were inverted I'm gonna go and kill myself now weren't their eyes like kind of glowy too because of like bad lighting or something on the second picture the eyes a little bit well like you know when you take like a bad picture on like a poor camera like your eyes can like glow red oh did they have like that level of little detail I'm I'm wondering if that happened because if that did happen then it like it kind of justifies it back again even though it wasn't a big problem to begin with like you can justify the fish girl dude for taking a selfie because she's a troll she's a fucking alien dude she just like we can't understand their culture like do trolls had had smartphones way before we did guess they're smart they're way smarter than us oh there's so much more their emotions is so much more complex and dude nuanced and that's why they have a fresh prince of Bel Air literally fresh Prince of Bel Air but it's trolls didn't they already have that and like in Homestuck in Carcass Room was that just Will Smith oh that's what I'm referencing that's what I'm referring to yeah so I just brought up the footage and so Joe Joey's the girl yes oh fuck I'm getting a call from my phone oh is it Joey I'm gonna it is I'm gonna go answer it and you're gonna have to entertain the crowd well I could entertain the crowd or I could cut this out of the video just spending on who's editing this maybe me um oh look it's the my favorite character superman hello it's just it's just me superman I um I'm here to say I really like I really like how I feel it just makes me Joey just told me that she got the selfie idea from from uh from Will Smith the real Will Smith the one from the 90s there's an episode season an episode season three episode 96 of the Fresh Prince of Bel Air uh the Fresh Prince himself Will Smith actually goes through a time void that just like a purified out of nowhere because that's what happens in Homestuck and he just like reaches his hand in because when you when you're presented with a giant hole your first instinct is to stick your dick in fist in full in and then and then he he finds this like weird cold plastic in his hand and he he pulls it out of the time void and it's a fucking iphone 8 s x sx 1080 snowboarding iphone s ex he just like and he just stares at it and he just kind of stares at it and like in on the screen is just his face and he's like really freaked out about it so he just like hits the button and it fucking snaps his picture and he's like oh this is so wack man what the fuck and then he just throws it back to the portal and that's and that's what the heck is Will it's your face I don't never seen that before and he jumps into a ravine and that's how and that's how Joey got the idea to take a picture of herself in a very amicable manner. And that's how Equestria was made. Whoa. I needed to know that. I just I like how Joey's eyes glow red and then Zephyros' eyes are like white with like a black outline so they're like different. I like the oh my god this is such a pretty picture too because Joey's well well both the characters black hair is like highlighted with red like a pinkish red and it's like fuck yeah don't even fucking highlight and shade with darker and brighter versions of the color don't even fucking do that you idiot you stupid white guilt bitch don't even do that whenever you draw you need to highlight your colors with completely different colors and it makes your thing like 10 times prettier you don't even know how to you don't even need to know how to draw you just need to understand to to shade your things with color and it's like and your eyes are just like dude this is some fucking good shit dude like seriously come on I I like I like that I think Davoo said on Twitter it's like art major not hiring an art major the game like like yeah I remember all the all the art in this is like it's really nicely done oh god say I I I know all of them have tumble pages and and deviant on accounts and I don't mind you think we're okay I don't know how it's not they're just they're just they're just you okay I get it which the thing that which I fucked your mom beep beep all right we're back lady sick I I totally fucking saying the thing that you sang when you disconnected with digi on the fucking podcast interview on the procrastinators podcast because I'm a fanboy of you just like mysterious character you you as a fanboy of all trolls wait I'm mixing up characters that I haven't even met yet did you say mysterious mr enter my favorite youtube channel of all time oh my god I can't believe we were able to shoehorn in mr I'm gonna come to our retrieval oh fuck yeah man yes I also riska won the wrestling I am seeing her now shit dude that's fucking awesome she killed them all she killed them mercilessly she killed them through deceit and through sheer strength did I even mention on like in the thing that I was I was playing a wrestling game I think you did I believe you did I'm watching a wrestling game with friska terezi ryuko matoi and forina from fire emblem I forgot the terezi was there yeah she I made her outfit it took all day but I made terezi's outfit uh from you know the flarp outfit the the cool red and green thing it's fucking sick but she's dead now I'm gonna have to delete that character that I made because she's dead canonically she's canonically done she can't come back and whatever yeah so what I really like about hiveswap is that it was made by artists who major in art and they made really pretty pictures and the whole game looks really pretty it looks really solid and I really wish my computer could run it well so I could see it in its full majesty I really like I really like the artistic decision well this is like a narrative decision as well to make uh the pet the the the big old boof dog like a big white fluffy dog and then both zefrosus lucis and the sunglasses lucis will call him twin armageddon and all every lucis is a big white fluffy thing and they're all your best friend and they're all soft and they're all friends I mean they're not like they're not like vicious destructive luci that you would expect but I like what they are I mean I think in canon all the lucises I have for some reason just are completely white anyway so they it was probably like oh let's let's you know she's got she uh jake uh jake harley is a cunt you like shooting and killing animals his his daughter doesn't like that she would well she she likes dogs and we're a big old dog good big old dog just like the big old troll dog reindeer white white guilt everything everything is a big white guilt dog it really uh really it really pissed me off like in a fun way to see the big dog just be a complete fucking coward to all the monstrous at the beginning like you fucking I was expecting at some point he would come back it feel it I mean it this is the first time this is an act one you know it's act one of a game it's the first time I've played a game that has come in parts like this and it just it it's taking time to get used to the fact that all these things were introduced and only half of them were you know brought up for the for the for the for the game the dog never comes back after the first cutscene jude bailey does anything and he's still there and then there's obviously the troll that has switched place with joey which by the way can we talk about those monsters what the fuck are they where they from why are they they not scary at all why they stretch why why is that snake thing at the very beginning he goes he roars but his mouth is just sort of lazily open like I'm here like a mouth oh fuck we're criticizing a joke that hasn't been finished being told yet oh fuck dude I gotta fucking hang myself from the fucking noose to be on the opposite end of that statement that sick quote from a comment section on obscure youtube video no one has talked about I like the part in hiveswap yeah are those monsters even are those monsters from troll world are they just from their own thing no they're just unique to hiveswap like I I mean I can't imagine what they are because all right I can assume based on the fact that there was a super portal that they are there to destroy the super portal because they're drawn to it from some fucking bullshit reason and obviously what's going to happen in act two is that we're going to get we're going to get to see the troll the twin armageddon who came over and he's going to be the one who interacts with the dog and you say hey there's just like my looses except it's blood is different as he says as he beats it to to see the blood color so yeah he's obviously going to call the looses a piece of shit because it's like it doesn't have any like combat capabilities the domestic dog yeah and he's and he's going to be he's going to be walking around that house and he's going to be talking to jude and they're going to be become best friends because they're both completely crazy in the exact same way which is funny maybe we're going to see the house in all of its detail and love and care put into it from the perspective of a troll who has no idea what anything is and isn't that going to be fun and a good time uh yeah um i uh fucking okay this is what we missed this is what we glossed over is that there's just a portal in the attic there's just a portal in the attic that takes you to alternia we don't we know that's not well i mean that's obvious that's obviously gonna be explored in the story and it's gonna be like oh by the end hopefully it's gonna be a it's gonna be explored about as much as as rosa's lab in her basement oh well you know that's that's getting explored a little bit more oh oh yeah that's what it might actually get explored but um all right fucking the clicking on stuff clicking stuff on things oh shit dude am i just gonna spout more points from my fucking award-winning rushed to completion video about how clicking on things doesn't feel satisfying and doesn't reward exploration as much as the art design like actually does because the mouse moves like molasses it has a different sensitivity than your regular mouse and it runs at like 25 frames per second because my computer's a toaster and it's just like i just want to move on i saw him watch your video i think you did you that's because it's not done dude oh okay no no just kidding it's done it's on my channel right now do your viewers go there right now click the link in the description oh i didn't catch that the probable hint that you you dropped there at the beginning um uh yeah i i mean obviously my computer didn't have lag so i may not understand where you're coming from with that but i found i found that clicking on stuff was all right but there was it's it's kind of annoying when you find out that every single clickable honorable thing can be clicked on with every single item and every ability to get a unique text box and you have to go all right well if i want to see all of the funny jokes because there are a few like achievements and cute things you can do with the pogs and and stuff are you implying that by playing hiveswap for two hours i did not in fact experience most of the game well i mean i don't know i did i played it for about the same amount of time but i didn't click everything on everything i didn't think to do that oh man well my perspective is like completely changed with that revelation because like i i understood that like tap dancing at things made a different thing happen but like every single item is gonna just be crazy that that means i experienced like one eighth of the text tops oh oh yeah like like it and obviously your inventory changes so you're like okay i've got this item but i may not have it for a long time so i'm gonna go to every place i've already been and check all of the things i mean it's fun if you if you've beaten it and you're bored and you feel like just walking around and clicking on things um so i guess it's like nice to have extra stuff but as a person who likes to find everything you feel like you can't really move on i mean the first time i played it i was doing i was doing it because i wanted to review it quick so i was like i'll just play it you know normal like just play it but going through it over again with no review to make i feel like i um just it's it's boring doing what i want to do because of how much there is of it and i get burned out very quickly like i still haven't i still haven't seen the death scene i want to get to the bit where you can probably die i think somebody said like yeah in the bit where like you could just wait for them to i actually don't know i don't know where it is but i know that there's a way to lose and i assume it's like when there's the big like all the monsters are chasing you and you don't run to the attic you just wait there then they eat you i want to see that but i've been clicking i've been clicking with the pigeon and the tap dancing and the ballerina shoes and all the items with each other and on all the things i mean thankfully you only have to click them with each other like once and then that's that you know you know it then but like it's it's kind of interesting sometimes that sometimes like you you can just throw chili dust all over something and sniff it and be like oh that's nice even if you're not clicking on an object with an item you have to click on it twice to interact with it you click it you get this like little this little like artsy gooey window of look or interact with it's like you gotta click on everything twice it's like uh like maybe you should have like what will do like be the look and then right click be the interact i don't know i mean sure but i feel like the way they did it is like way better than point and click games usually are where you have to click a magnifying glass or a nose or an eye and then drag it over to the thing which is like the amount of things it's like like doubles the length of time to do anything yeah quadruples the length of time because well well in your mind it does because you're like well i could sniff everything in this room but i'm pretty sure nothing is going to come of that which leads you to you know especially when you sniff things and it's like well obviously that wouldn't nothing would happen and then there's that one thing that is crucial to sniff that doesn't seem like you're supposed to sniff it but they they expect you to be sniffing everything because you would want to i guess and that's how you complete the puzzle that's how old point and click games are they they they give you too many options and then they expect you to use like a very strange option on a very strange thing in order to find a specific item you need and you can never figure it out unless you just click everything on everything and this game does away with that that idea where there's lots of random bullshit nonsense text you can get if you want but what you have to do is very clear and i do like that like there's no if you can you can speedrun this on the on your first playthrough if you're just like skimming things like all right got it go go go go no bullshit i know where i'm nowhere i'm going i know probably what i need yeah i've played like no pointy click adventure games other than clue finders third and fourth great adventures but that does sound like what a point and click adventure game is i feel a little weird about the mindset the inherent mindset of point and click adventure games where it's like oh i could experience with all this flavor text but i really just want to glaze past it and figure out what the fuck i really need to do i feel like i got that feeling in hivesop even with the thing like there were a lot of moments in hivesop where i'm just like i fucking whatever just walk through what do i need to do here and it was like click on something i didn't even realize was clickable and i'm like damn it yeah um well i didn't have problems finding what was clickable just because you just i'm tired of clearly i i don't have i don't have the ability of perception because i clicked on the radio to turn it off and i didn't realize that the radio is battery powered i thought that because it was on a counter next to a wallet was plugged in but there were like bandages over the cover and everything and i'm like oh i'm stupid okay cool yeah i mean that one you were stupid because that was pretty obvious that you had to click on the special bandages that were very colorful but um i understand that because like as a point and click a connoisseur a lot of things are annoying when you you you learn sometimes that clicking on the item itself is not what you're supposed to do you have to click on a specific part of the item and then he'll do the thing you want to do like you have to click on uh i don't know let's say there's a there's a there's a chest and you click on the chest and he says it's a chest but if you click on the latch he opens it and it's like stupid shit like that um there's not that much of that in homestuck uh hive swap i mean uh but that the radio thing that that comes close i guess comes close there's there's a few probably a few moments like that yeah you said that hive swap does a good job of like watering down both high both homestuck and pointy click adventure games into something that's very accessible to everyone and i would agree on that um yeah it's it's just the fact that i got into the mindset of oh fuck this just tell me what to interact with dear walkthrough that's like i don't know oh i'm like you know because i come from platformers and rhythm yeah i looked up a lot of shit oh you fool you fool you fool it was easy what are you what are you bitch yeah dude i got a fucking i'm a horse and i have like those blinders on the horse we're like if i don't see the solution immediately i'm never gonna all right maybe maybe i'm giving people too much credit when i do see it maybe i'm people giving people too much credit when i say it's it's watered down point and click i i just feel like i'm not watered down it's like simplified accessible simplified and accessible because like i have heard that people have trouble like i i saw oh jack septica is is playing it it's got a million views wow that's more than act seven that's more than homestuck has ever gotten this the jack septica but he couldn't jack septica more popular than homestuck how could it possibly be that way but um i didn't watch it but i mean you know because you know he's jay's screams he's a screaming man if i haven't made it clear any problem i have with hiveswap is purely subjective and purely me just like being under-equipped and retarded and i actually have no real complaints with the game just as someone coming from like a platformer and rhythm game genre i just like want everything to be like optimized and like not streamlined but i want like the the controls to be as streamlined as possible yeah i mean i honestly think that the left click to look right click to interact like would be a great idea to speed things up that i thought of just now yeah but um yeah i guess it would be i think i have heard of a few games that do that it's just sometimes you're playing on a mac and what how do you do that how you right click on a mac you know you've got to think of those mac users i don't give a shit about mac users fuck mac users fuck you kazzie but yeah i was looking at the jack septica thing and he the first part was him not knowing the first problem which is i assume i assume i got stuck on the first problem too it what i got stuck as well because i didn't realize you had to search the the the the dog i didn't know that i didn't know that that dog was situation because of my autism um yeah the the only thing was like i didn't know where to find the key and it was inside the the dog which was pregnant with puppies i didn't know that's what it was because it wasn't turned up to look like it i mean i guess i could have i i clicked look and i didn't think to click search after i click look so that was my bad i know i made the same mistake i clicked look and i'm like oh all of her prized possessions are here and to me prized possession means something you're never going to use and that you keep her sentimental value and then i go to her diary and it's like locked and i'm like well you would keep the lock for your diary that you write in regularly somewhere where you can easily find it so you can easily unlock the diary like no the diary is a prized possession that she would keep in the place where the game told me she keeps prized possessions and also in the diary she writes that she hasn't been writing in it lately yeah it's it's um i don't know where i think i was just going with yeah it's get good steve steve is terrible at video games well not just steve he said the funny it's not just steve it's everyone i feel like i feel like i give people too much credit for for saying oh no it's it's easy you can just you can just look around click on everything and read everything and you will know what to do and i'm sure people do not know what to do sometimes and i did get stuck on one thing where um i didn't know you had to uh telekinesis the spoon i had no idea that that like you had to telekinesis the spoon and if you didn't have the spoon you couldn't pry the the thing off of the wall the weapon isn't that like what invalidates first playthroughs and first watches in the eyes of people like digi bro because like we don't understand it at first and like we have to consume it like once or twice in order to like learn it in order to like actually legitimately understand it um i i guess but i don't know that digi would ever have the patience to play through anything like this once let alone twice yeah well he just well i've just heard him say well if you compare it to like him watching anime like i've heard him say i hope this isn't misrepresenting his opinion i hope this is exactly literally what he said that like the first watch of an anime is kind of irrelevant because you're watching it for the first time and you don't get it and it's only once you watch at the second time that you know what's coming that you can really find the subtleties and all the little hints and really understand it yeah i i didn't feel that in this in this game though it mostly because you can you know you can stop by and and look at everything as you go along and it's a game where you walk from to to and then back through rooms so like you can experience you can you can examine things and get the information on like oh oh that's probably hinting towards that puzzles being solved that that's that's what they're saying if you click on that thing to get information but you can do that at any point and you can totally skip it if you really want so it's it's it's not really exactly the same unless you play the game by clicking on everything on everything before moving on you're right clearly we feel like we have a decent understanding of the game and that's why we're talking about it and making videos about it yes i love homestuck it is my parents homestuck is your parents i also know my parents like home stuck it blows my mind that homestuck fucking happened at the same time as the pony phase it blows my mind that those two happened at the same fucking time i i simultaneously want to have been into homestuck during the time it was out but also don't think my my low christ consciousness level could handle both pony and homestuck happening at the same time i feel like it would have gone full autism if that i feel like i feel like homestuck was more of a thing and then pony became a thing as homestuck was sort of peatering out but i'm not sure uh so pony started becoming a thing in 2010 and homestuck started in 2010 is that right 2009 but like like 2012 was when pony was huge and then homestuck was at that point i think sort of peatering out uh but i can't remember because i i can't remember because i wasn't there reading homestuck like ben sain was the one who got me into homestuck so it's obviously kind of into the pony stuff before because like it was a while before i started doing pony videos and then pony reviews and then meeting the other hoshu crew guys meeting ben sain who then at some point we got and he told me about sweet bro and hella jeff and from there i what i read homestuck at which point it was already on its huge unending uh pause and mega or giga pause whichever the giga pause yeah we're just gonna like i hope one of i hope someone knows when and where the giga pause and mega pause were like maybe the comic itself will like acknowledge it because if the comic doesn't acknowledge it we're not gonna realize when it is we're just gonna pass right through it in a second oh well i remember when that is because i i got to the end of it before it updated again and i was i was like oh that i'm i'm i'm done but it's not over i got to wait and then you know i didn't have to wait months and months and years like everyone else uh but it was a bad weight and then there was another weight it was a bad weight and then there was another weight yeah so much weight you gotta carry that weight all the way to the grave you piece of shit and that's our review of hive swap it's it's it's pretty okay it's pretty whatever but mostly give us views oh yeah give us views that's gonna be the the things i mean they're probably gonna be biased towards me because this is going on my channel my secret arm retrieval channel taking this from me i'm gonna retrieve this from your arms because fucking munchies don't hear duty don't eat god fucking do a thing about it not even fucking these fucking weebs these i'll put this i i might even put this on the property that we scheduled to put it on the my dream will finally come true of becoming on the pro craft oh oh how wow that was gay the half the power gay be like sick dude like the be really fucking funny oh oh there's so many places i could put it i could i could i am the ascended fan boy i am the worst character in all of homestuck you're like the best pcp meme ever but soon you're gonna be a heart out needs to die we're gonna have to put that on the shut the don't fucking bring up the wiki that's the nine and the nice little jingle there okay yes i guess yeah we're good okay outro i wrote a bunch of memes for it but memes that had to do with homestuck and didn't actually have to do with hive swaps so uh we're gonna we're gonna end this episode with a bang homestuck is fucking boring dirk likes dick dirk likes dick dirk likes dick dirk likes dick john john fag egg bird john smear the queer egg bird i should have gotten the pot okay bye we're done we're done