 So the bottom line is, folks, we're taking the program off. We're taking truth for life off. And we're replacing with another Bible teaching program. What is worse than when a known false teacher, a known false prophet, a known heretic, someone who was just so egregious in their approach to the scriptures? Matter of fact, may not even have an approach to the scripture. There's something that is worse than when they lead people astray. What's worse is when someone who is known to be a solid teacher, someone who's a good teacher, a sound preacher of the gospel makes an error. And it's clear error based off of an opinion. It's worse when they do it, versus when someone who we know is a wolf. The reason why is because there are people who put their trust in them, who follow them because, again, with this influence comes responsibility. And the Bible even tells us, the Bible tells us in James, not let many of you to be teachers, why there's a stricter condemnation, stricter judgment, not to mean that if you do something or say something that's wrong, that means you're going to go to hell. You're going to have to pay for it with your soul. But no, there come some strong requirements that go along with what you're doing. If you are a pastor, such as Alistair Begg, if you are a preacher leader, someone who has great influence. And when he makes a statement that that we should attend trans weddings and I would also assume gay weddings, what have you that we should attend and bring a gift and the reason to do so is so that we can. So we don't give them the reason or the validation that Christians are judgmental and unloving and things like that. Well, first of all, the reason that they believe Christians are what they are has nothing to do with our actions toward them. The reason why they have a disdain or dislike towards Christians because they have a disdain or dislike towards Christianity. Why do they have a disdain or dislike towards Christianity because they have a disdain or dislike towards Christ? That's the reason not because of what we do now. Do we do things sometimes incorrectly or wrong handed or without love? Sure. But so does everyone else. But for him to come out and make the statement that he did, it's just wrong. It is it is supporting. And I don't know. He's not actually supporting and supportive of the LGBTQ movement. But what he says for some could come across as what Paul is warning us not to do, which is to give approval to those who practice certain things. When you bring a gift, you're you're celebrating that you wouldn't bring a gift or attend someone else, someone else's other sin. If there is some sort of, I don't know, someone is at a bar and doing all sorts of sexually graphic things at a bar at a club. You wouldn't go there with whether it was a friend of yours or a child of yours. Go there and celebrate. As a matter of fact, bring them a gift. No, you wouldn't do that again. We have a clear line of demarcation between holiness and worldliness. And recently, the American Family Network, they have decided to part ways with him because of this to go, whatever. And so people heard that answer and people again to call us. Hey, what are you going to do? You hear what Alistair Begg said? What's your opinion, American Family Radio, of what he said? So that's what I mean by forced us to take a hard look at this and make a decision on what, what, if anything, we were going to do about it. So, Ed, you and Walker had a phone conversation with not Alistair Begg himself, but his team. Is that fair to call him yesterday? Yes, we wanted, we wanted to give him an opportunity to say I messed up right there. Right. And and I think it's the wrong. I said the wrong thing and I'd like to recant. Sure. And and we and in any case, we want to do the Christian thing. And in as much as we can, sometimes with public statements, you can't get in touch with the person who made them. But because they're public, you can comment publicly. But we have had such a long and fruitful relationship with Truth for Life and Alistair Begg. We wanted to have some sort of interaction. Now, let me just say from the outset, and then I'm going to get Walker to join in here, too, that the the the two individuals that we talked with, as Walker and I, with two individuals from Alistair Begg's ministry, they made it clear that Alistair Begg believes that homosexuality is wrong. He hasn't changed his views on that. He does not believe that homosexual marriage is valid and that the practice of homosexual activity is, as the Bible says, an abomination. So all four of us were in agreement with that. But Walker, what we could not get them to change. And they said that Alistair Begg is not going to change his mind was on the issue of whether Christians should attend, because that is what Alistair Begg was saying. Yes, he was saying Christians should attend and bring a gift. Yes, that's right. And the goal of the call and the goal of all Christians when approaching these issues should be reconciliation, but reconciliation and truth. And so that was our goal with the call with Alistair Begg's team. And we even asked point blank. So are you guys stating that Pastor Alistair Begg is standing by his original comment? He has no regrets. He didn't misspeak. He doesn't want to further clarify nothing. And they said, yes, he's standing by his original comment. So what I like best about it is that they have a relationship with him so they can call them up. Now, they didn't actually speak with him, but they spoke with his people. And he said, basically, he's not budging from that. He believes what he believes, which is fine. And so the consequence, at least for the near time, is that you're going to be off this radio show, which I think is a good move. And who knows what else happens. I would hope that other brothers that know him closely who can get to him and show him, listen, this is wrong. This is why this is wrong. I trust that he is a wise person. I think he just made a mistake because guess what? I don't care who you are. You are going to say some things that are going to be wrong. You're going to make some mistakes, which is why you ought to have a sounding board of people to make sure that you don't say certain things that you are clear. But maybe, again, this is opinion he he feels for him. Now, for me, I said for me, this is for me. I would never tell anyone to go to a gay wedding or a trans wedding. For me, if you invite me, I'm going. And I'm going to tell you why I'm going. I want the person who is getting married. I want them to know why I'm coming. If they say, fine, come on. If they say, no, I don't want you to come, I'm not going to come. I'm not going to come to support. I'm not going to come and sit down and be quiet. I'm not going to come and celebrate. I'm not going to come and bring a gift and hope hope you the best in this sinful relationship. I'm not going to do that. My job is to point out sin and to point people to the gospel, to Christ. And if I can't do that there in the midst of your sin, then I won't be there. That's the only reason why I would go not to celebrate. And now that's me. And I wouldn't tell other folks, hey, you should go if someone invites you, you should go take the gospel. No, that's an opinion. But my reason for doing so for me is found in the gospel. But if you want to say, no, I'm not going at all, no matter what, then fine. That's fine also. But to tell people they ought to go, they should go or that you would even go. And it's not to give the gospel, but to celebrate them and show them that, hey, you can still have love for them. They will end up accepting a Christ on their own terms, a Christ that's accepting of their illicit lifestyle. They will end up accepting a Christ that thinks it's OK for them to live that way. And that's just wrong. And so I applaud them. Now, I'm not throwing away House for Big at all. I still think he's a fine human being. I think he is a good teacher. I would still listen to him. But on this, he's wrong. And whatever consequences come, it's a result of this. And I think he really needs to repent of this as soon as possible. One of the reasons why he should do so soon as possible, similarly, what happened with Paul and Peter? Paul confronts Peter because he was doing something incorrectly. If we drop down to verse 11 in Galatians 2, Paul approaches and confronts Cephas. Why? Because he's eating with the Gentiles. Maybe he's eating pork, it doesn't say. And then when the Jews show up, he moves back. And what does the Bible say? He says, because verse 13, the rest of the Jews joined him in hypocrisy with the result of even Barnabas was carried away with their hypocrisy. And so the reason why you want to do this is so other people don't get carried away with hypocrisy, with sin, with doing the wrong thing. And that's why he needs to come out and repent of this. And I hope he does. If he doesn't, well, then we'll still we'll still love him. The love that he says we are show to the to the LGBTQ community. We'll still show that love to him, but you're wrong. And we can show you that you're wrong while still showing love. But in the meantime, do not follow that advice. Amen.