 And if you're just joining us, you are on time for the first conversation of the day and we are all about career. But today we want to see how we can get to what we want, that is, achieving our goals. Last week we talked about something similar but different, at least according to our guests. And you'll be explaining that to us. Last week we talked about planning and pursuing visions. And today we want to talk about achieving goals. And of course our guest today is not new to us, he's called Joffrey Ongwai, he's a motivational speaker, author and a pastor, Kari Boussana Joffrey. Thank you my sister. Glad to have you once again. I'm happy to be again. Awesome. Yes. So we want to know the difference between achieving visions and, sorry, pursuing visions and achieving goals. What is the difference between the two? Thank you for that question. Achieving your vision, it is something that you have decided to pursue. Maybe like now, maybe you have a vision to become a doctor, you have a vision to become a nurse, you have a vision to become a journalist. But now when we are talking about goals, it's a how. That's the difference. Okay. Yes. So what are some of the ways that one needs to put in place or some of the things one needs to implement to make sure that they achieve their goals? You know, this is a good topic because it's the beginning of the year and the people are setting goals. Exactly. But some people are interesting enough, some people have decided not to set goals because they don't want to be disappointed. This was a conversation we were having last week and also a discussion that we were having with my co-host a few minutes ago. He said he has not set goals this time because in 2020, he was disappointed after setting goals and corona came and things were sort of disoriented. So what is the importance of doing this? You know, any person who wants to succeed, you ever, maybe the beginning of the year, you must set goals, it's a must, maybe you want to be successive because success and the goals, they go together. You can't separate. They go together. But someone say, I'm a spontaneous person and any attack, you know, could limit and you know, those people are just avoid disappointment and they're still after success. So does it mean they won't be successful because they have not set goals? You know, me as a writer, I've done a lot of research. Many people have succeeded in this world. The head goals. And as you know, maybe as a family, you must set goals, personal goals, maybe it's a camp and you must set goals. It will guide you because it's now like I can ask you, what do you want to achieve this year? There's so much that I want to achieve, career-wise, relationship-wise, I want to do. Some people, there's no need, some people have that. But when you look even in the Bible, you can see, Jesus will ask people, what do you want me to do for you? So you need to know what to do. Yes. Like now, 2023, what goals, what do you want to achieve? Do you see? Because at the beginning of the year, people are excited, they say, maybe I will do this, I will do this. And never should you maybe think that those people are saying that they don't set goals, they are saying the truth, they are lying. Yes. So they are lying? They are lying to us. They have goals. They have goals. There's something in their hearts they want to do. Maybe they have not treated them down, it's okay. But inwardly they say, oh, this year I will do this, this year I will do this. So there's no way somebody can say, oh, Mia, I don't want to set goals. So that's what I've said, they are lying to us. And what is the difference between someone who puts their goals down and someone who doesn't? Now, you know, human beings, we are subjected to forgetfulness. So when you write it down your goals, you will be able to remember, just to remind yourself. That's why maybe as a person, as a comeman, when you begin the year, that's why comemen they take their people out, say, if it's a family, they go out and they discuss goals that they want to achieve within one year. So someday write it down and someday write it in their hearts, do you see now? But now those who write down, they can be able, as we continue to talk, we are going to look at what are the inner lenses to achieving our goals, yes. Because we have wrong term goals, we have short term goals. And you have mentioned that you need to set personal goals and then family goals. So why do you need to have family goals and company goals, we know, because it's dependent on the company's growth. But family goals, relationship goals, do you need that? Yes, you know, there's no way you can know where you're going. There's no way you can know maybe what you want to achieve. Until you write it down, your goals. That means you should set your goals, you say, this year, God willing, I will do this and this and this and this. So it is very, very important as a person, as a young person, as a comeman, as a family, you go out and discuss maybe God willing, this year, this is what we want to do. And I want to assure you, those people who do not set their goals, they get defeated. So you set up yourself for failure? Yes. That's why I've said, you can't separate goals and success. They go hand in hand. They go and in the end. So that's why I've said, go and do your search. Okay. To see all the success of people and see what they did. Yes. Okay. Maybe some years ago, two years ago, three years ago, that's what I've said. We have short-term goals and we have long-term goals. Like now, short-term goals, it's like maybe one week from now, like my brother was here, was saying he has read just two pages of a book. That's not for a year. Short-term goals, maybe within a week, I want to read a book. Maybe within a week, I want to maybe to start a business to do this. Maybe within two months, within three months. But now when we come to long-term goals, it is now maybe five years to come, I want to have my masters. Maybe 10 years to come, I want to have maybe a small house. Maybe five years to come, my company will be all over Africa. That's what we are talking about now, long-term goals. When we come to our personal goals, they are short-term goals and we have long-term goals. About the long-term goals, how big can you dream? Because they are long-term five years from now. You might not have a job, you might come from a humble background, but you have big dreams. How big can you dream for at least the long-term goals? For the short-term, you can't imagine you're going to get a car in three months, yet you don't know even where to start. But for the long-term goals, how big should you dream? Because you're also supposed to be realistic at the same time. Dream big, but you can start small. Okay. Yes. You must have a starting point. In everything you do, it's like me, I'm an author, I have all the 12 books titles. There was a time maybe, I began around 15 years ago. So they say the hardest thing is to begin. Now once you have begun, then you will reach there. Amazing. Yes. You should say start with shaking, trembling as long as you start. Yes. Just make sure you start. Maybe people are successful today. Some of them, they start small, so supermarket, big schools, schools that are maybe very famous, scumbands, maybe they start small. Very few people start maybe in a big way, but 90%, 80%, they become small. Okay. Do you see? Maybe. That's why when you set goals, you break it into small goals, do you see? When you start somewhere, then you continue. All right. Do you see? Now we have begun the year, this is the first month, you know, you can begin something, you can begin somewhere. Can you maybe give us an example, you said you can set a goal and then you break it down. Maybe you can help the viewer know by an example how to break down a goal, one goal. Like now, let me use Kaliya. Yeah. Maybe you want to be maybe to have masters or you're a doctorate. You can decide if you do not do well in your case, yes. You can start with certificates, then you come to diploma, then you come to degree, then you come to a doctorate, do you see now? At least you can have, maybe you have graduated and you have no job. You can maybe go somewhere to a company and they say, please give me a chance, let me just work free for you. You start from there, then you continue. Maybe if you want to have a supermarket, you can start maybe with a small shop. But in mind, you have a big picture that 10 years to come, I will be somewhere. Do you see now? Yeah. At least you must have a starting point. All right. So you have a big goal, but you break it down until when you can get to it. Now the problem with many people as we talk about the inner lenses is that many people they want to begin big when it comes to goals. Yeah. Maybe I normally, I love to use my own examples in maybe in several areas. Yeah. When I started the diploma, then I came to a degree, then a master's and now I'm doing in my doctorate, do you see? So at least somebody must start somewhere. Then you continue. So it takes time. It takes time. In patience. Okay. Yeah. When you come to setting goals in life, there are those goals that are very important, but not very urgent. Okay. So how do you set this? Yes. Now it is to evaluate yourself. Yeah. There are those goals maybe that are very important, but not very urgent for now. And those goals that are very important and very urgent, do you see? So it is, it's upon you now to do everything in your life. And separate. Do you see? Which is very important, which one can I start with, do you see now? Yeah. And what are some of the questions that someone can ask themselves before they come up as they come up with their goals? Some questions that maybe, that can serve as a guide? Now the question that you might ask, because we are noticing, we wired in a different way. Yeah. Maybe you, you have maybe chosen maybe to pursue what we call business. Maybe let me say, let me say business or academics on that area. Now you evaluate yourself and you say, which one can I start with? Because many people, maybe you see somebody's doing this, you say, I will do it. So it's upon you to evaluate yourself. What are you passionate about? What do you love? Do you see? Maybe if it is somebody maybe in high school, maybe in college, maybe in a family, goals cannot be the same. Maybe you are the CEO of the company, your goals and the goals of the family, it cannot be the same. So it's upon you to evaluate yourself. Maybe like now, let me say, you are married, you are embroidered, embroidered. You can decide maybe let me now, let me have my own land and a build because it's very important for you. Okay. Do you see? Now maybe because now you have a family, do you see? So it's upon you now to evaluate yourself because as we are talking and those people are listening to us, our goals will never be the same. But it is you to evaluate which one is very important, very important. So you're saying that the reason behind the goal should also matters when you're setting the goal. The reason why you want to achieve that goal? Yes. Why do you want to achieve that goal? Like now maybe let me say that maybe you are through with your college and maybe you want to be employed. You are not employed because we have this cast of employment in Kenya. You can decide to start something. So you pursue that by the end of the day, maybe you never know the fight will take you. Okay. Let's talk about now achieving the goals. There's another author, James Clear who wrote, if I'm getting it right, it's easy to set goals but it's the system behind the goals that actually matter, having systems behind the goal. What do you say about that? Yeah. You know, from my experience, from the people I've talked to, even those people are very today. Some of them, they had goals, they had big goals, they were excited, maybe the beginning of the year they said, we want this but now achieving the goal, that's where the problem is because they are some inner lenses on the way. One of the inner lenses, there are many that we can discuss, low motivation. There are some people who maybe they don't have self-motivation. Their motivation is very low, maybe it's in business, maybe it's in career, maybe there's something that you want. Now the motivation is very low because the farther you go, it will depend on the motivation behind. Do you see? Yeah. Now, if your motivation is very low, your success will be very low, they say. When your motivation is so high, you want to do something, you want to pursue it with all your heart, finally you will get it. Do you see now? So one of the inner lenses to our achieving maybe our goals is the low motivation. But I will do this, but are you motivated? You don't have the drive to push through. Like now I can tell you, with the economy of our country, people have low motivation. That's very true and the circumstances such as those. So what kind of person do now to stay motivated and not drop your goal? Yes, that's why maybe we have said that people should learn to motivate themselves. Maybe you wake up in the morning and you say, I would decide to do this within two months, within three months, within six months and I must do it. So the motivation that comes from, you know, inside your heart is so powerful that the motivation comes from outside. So it can only come from inside of you? Inside, yeah. Because somebody can push you today and tomorrow you will come back to the same spirit. But once you have decided from your heart that I want to pursue this, I want to do this, do you see? Once you have said, the motivation that comes from inside your heart is so powerful. And that one comes when you wake up every morning and you say, I have something to achieve. I have something to achieve this year. Do you see now? Yeah. You know, that's why they say when you are setting goals, set smart goals. Do you see? Yeah, specific, measurable. Yes. Yes. Wow, I forgot to say, I was taught last one day with attainable, realistic and time bound. Time bound. Do you see now? Yes. So people should learn to motivate themselves. You know, nowadays everybody is almost discouraged, whatever you go, people are discouraged. So people should learn on how to motivate themselves. You know, whatever you have decided to do, your career, family life, maybe in your business is not doing well, you know, learn to motivate yourself. I will do it no matter what. No matter what. I will try my best. Even if the economy is hard. Even if the economy is bad. I want to tell you my sister, when other people are complaining, you know, one of the things that somebody is not motivated as such, what is what, so how it is. So that confession is negative. Yes. Do you see now? So when people complain, I can tell you there are people who are not complaining and they are working. Even during Corona, can I surprise you that there are people who are building. Yeah. There are people, their business, who are doing well. When other people are saying, oh, Corona, Corona, it has affected us. Other people, it's an opportunity. Yes. People made lemonade. Yeah. Yeah. You know, in life, if people concentrate so much on complaining, you cannot, you cannot move. You will be stuck. Yeah. But if you, maybe you can open your eyes and you are able to see the opportunity that is around our country, you will succeed. Do you see now? Yeah. That is why you can see that other people are complaining that the economy is bad, but other people are quite tired, working. They are looking for opportunities because they are able to motivate themselves. All right. No matter what, still, there is something good in our country. No matter what, there is something good in my life, no matter the situation that I am in. Yes. That brings me to the question, how do you align your environment to your goals? Because now, sometimes it's almost, you know, you can't prevent it because the people around you or the environment that you are raised in sort of holds you back and you have great goals. So how do you make sure that you align your environment to your goals? You know, you must be careful. The people that you mingle with, you talk with, you must be very careful. If you join the group where people always are complaining, the economy is bad, have, you know, am proc, have no money, the business is not doing well. The next day, you will start singing the same song, do you see? But if you align yourself with the environment, where people are positive, where people are focused, where people are visionary, where people are discussing ideas on how they can move. But if you join maybe the group of people who are saying, ah, we can't succeed. You know, the economy is bad. We are going nowhere. It's a disease. Negativity is a disease. So by the end of the day, you will be affected. So it's contagious. You will start singing the same song, do you see? Okay, so negativity is contagious. It's a disease. Yeah, it's a disease. So you must be very careful. And I wonder what about, maybe people are complaining, ah, family life is so bad. The business is not doing well. Maybe somebody is selling, maybe in a shop. Ah, economy is bad. You know, because that's what Biba is saying. But that's why we have said, learn to motivate yourself. It's so powerful. Okay. Even when you don't see hope, still you can tell yourself, I can do something. You know, I was teaching people the other day, a group of people invited me to talk to. I was saying this, make even a small step. If you cannot make a big step, make even a small step this year, this month, February. Make a small step, March. Make a small step. It will make a big difference by the end of the year. No. Yes. Okay. What are some other hindrances? So, well, you've talked about motivation and having the right company around you. Any other hindrances to achieving your goal? Lack of patience. Lack of patience. You know, once you have set your goal, you need patience. You see, anything it does, it does a process. So I can tell you. Maybe people have not achieved, maybe, whatever they wanted in life, is lack of patience. When you try your business within one year, you close the business. Maybe within one month, you close the business, you know, so there are people who have closed their business within one year, they have tried maybe about four, do you see, waste of time. So sometimes you need to be very patient with life, at least have some patience with life. Even you maybe, you started somewhere. Maybe there was a time you were an internee, maybe you know. So once people are like patience, I can tell you, maybe anyway, I started being a pastor around 20 years ago, you see, I was just a young man from high school, I went straight to college, I started writing my books, it's now 16 years, do you see. But it has, that time, when I was producing my books, I would say just 5,000, maybe 1,000. But nowadays, my books are all over because it has taken a time, do you know. So that means, sometimes you need patience in your life, whatever that you are doing. Maybe we can talk to those people who have set their goals. We want to advise them this morning, that they need to have patience, develop some patience in this life. Okay. Yeah. What about, I'm also getting the aspect of focusing on something, because you know, you've mentioned the example of someone starting many businesses. What is it about focus, because you can have so many goals going on at the same time that you want to achieve on a limited time. So what is it about having focus? You know, lack of focus, it will disorganize you completely, do you see. There are people who are not focused at all, because focus means paying attention on something until you get it, do you see now. There are people who are not focusing, what are you focusing on, do you see. That means, what are you aiming at, do you see. Me, I'm a businessman. I do business, I can tell you. It has taken around 20 years, but that time when I started my business, selling maybe, you know, my spare parts, it was just a small shop and you know, and we will get to three customers per day, do you see, but as time goes by, because of that focus, you continue doing it, you continue doing it, you continue doing it, until the breakthrough comes, do you see now. But now many people, they start something and they want to see instant result, do you see. And such kind of goals, there are very few, where people focus on something, they want to see a big, maybe result, big impact. But many people want to succeed, young people listening to us, business, they see you listening to us, you can go and do your search, even the companies that are famous today all over the world, the owner, the CEO, those people started, they found us, they developed business. It's like you're a pregnant woman, I always work with mimbaleo, I love Keshia and I'm very patient. This thing, I must call it for nine months, do you see. That's why we said earlier. That short term goals and long term goals, do you see now. Like now, if you want to be a millionaire, 10 years to come, you must set wrong-term goals. You want to have 20 million from now, 30 million from now, 10 million from now. You set what you call wrong-term goals. But if you want just 10,000, you can set what you call short-term goals. Because if you want, like now, if you want a thousand, that one within a day, you can get it. Maybe. It is 20,000. You can get it within one month. But when it comes to what we call big money, millions of money, maybe you want to achieve big, it comes with patience. So patience is key. It is key. And when do you know that it is now time to try something else? Because you've said patience, maybe someone is taking too much time on something that's probably not working, especially maybe in business. And that was your goal and you focused on it and you've tried. But maybe there's a reason why it's not working and you need to do something else. So when do you know that this is? When things are not working well, maybe you have not built your capacity. Yes, because your success will be equal to your capacity. Maybe like now it's the company, maybe it's a business, the capacity, the capacity we are talking is now what kind of books do you read, what kind of friends, what kind of advice do you read? So because there are some people who have not succeeded in the business because they are depending on their own knowledge, do you see now? So you are not supposed to quit before you ask yourself, why am I business or why as a person I'm not successive? Yeah, okay. You know, I've consulted some people, several, maybe in our country, teachers, principals, who invite me, people to come. You know, I'm 60,000 and I'm going nowhere, do you see now? I'm earning a hundred, I'm not seeing going anywhere, do you see? Then we sit, we talk, do you see? There are people who have not the capacity to handle even 10,000, who can party a little within one week or within two days, that's a measure and I'm not going to answer because I'm a shetani, move on this idea. Almost some people has been given a big company within one year, the company is down, the capacity to handle, are you getting? Somebody has been given a school, a big school, maybe with 2,000, 1,000, within a few days, 400 students. Sometimes, let me tell you, and those who are listening to us, building your capacity is very, very important when it comes to a personal success. Yes. So you need to build capacity. Yes, like now, if you maybe you are building the capacity able to handle your family, lead books about your family. If you want to know how to handle your business, lead a book about business. If you are a manager, lead a book about managing your skills, do you see now? So that you can be able to handle maybe whatever you have been given, all those goals that you want to achieve. I can tell you that before you talk about success, you must talk about building your capacity as a person. So it's essential. Very essential. For success to happen. Yes. What about setting now the time? Because setting smart goals means that they have to be time bound. So how do you allocate the time that you need to achieve the goal? Now, maybe when you want now, you want something that you want to achieve. It's upon you now. How much do you want those goals to be achieved? In these five years, in these 10 years, these 20 years, now then you allocate your time. When I say that we think, that's why we have said it, you must be able to break down your big goal to small goals. When I say that we think this year, I will be doing this. Next year, I will be doing this. So it is upon you now to allocate your time. But depending on the actions that you need to do that thing, like now, like now, maybe within one year, you want to have maybe money to start a business. So what do you want? What do you do? You start saving. You start saving. For the next 10 years from now, I will start my own company. So what I will be doing, my company that I want to start, or the business, it will take around one million, all 10 million, all five million. So what you do, you start saving. So it will depend on the actions that you need to do that thing. Because there are some people who set goals. Just for the sake of it. Just for the sake of it. That's why you must have what's called action plan. Do you see? Any time that you have set your goal, you must have an action plan. How are you going to do it? Do you know? Like maybe it's personal, it's personal. It's personal, it's personal. It's personal, it's personal. Like maybe it's personal goals, earthy, social goals. Do you see? Maybe you are 120, maybe KG. You want to reduce. What do you do? The action plan. Every morning. So that's why I've said, well, I'm going to make new friends this year. What kind of friends that I want to make this year? Maybe those who are in business, or those who are in the industry of maybe something. Are you guys what I'm saying? They need to also be intentional in that. You must be intentional. Action, the action plan is very, very important. I've seen, you know, it's me. I've been invited for big schools in this country. I've been invited to Ikwiti Bangi to talk to people. I've been there. Fairies come and it's maybe when they go out to talk to them. This is very simple. Some people, they go out and they are excited. Oh, we have begun it here. We have set goals. But do you have the action plan? Like now, you can ask somebody, do you have an action plan for this year? For your goals? Yes. Maybe we're not going to, something, if you're going to say, I want you to set goals what you want to achieve. But where's the action plan? Okay. So those are the systems that you need to have the action plan. You must. So, for example, if you want to get healthy, you say you'll be running every morning. You'll be running every morning when I'm looking at the camera. You go to the gym. You want to reduce your weight. Are you, do you see now? So I'm going to reduce 20 kg. But you know action plan? Maybe it is here. I'm going to start my own business. Give us the action plan, do you know? Because once you have the action plan, it will push you. It will make you to wake up. Okay. Okay. Once you have come up with the action plan, if you want to achieve this, this is how you start. This is what you will be doing. This is what is required. Do you see now? You know. So, from now up to March, I will do this. Up to maybe, let's tune or what, I will have this. So, the action plan. In fact, many people fail to achieve their plans. It is because they don't have the action plan. Okay, interesting. That is why we say anybody can succeed. As long as you have set your goals right and you have decided you are intentional and you have the action plan. Have you ever wondered? There are people who never went to school, but they are very successful. Yeah. Have you ever wondered? There are people, you know, you look at them and you say, oh, that's people that were very smart on their goals. The action plan, they say, this year, and they are able to measure their goals very fast. Do you see? How do you measure their goals? You measure from the starting point and the way you are. Then you will be able to know where you are going. Okay. In fact, people must know, you know, you must know where you are coming from, where you are, and the way you are going. Do you see? So that you can say, at least, since January started, date one, at least I moved a step. Do you see? So you are measured. At least I've done something. Okay. Do you see? But if just you sit, you say, I'm waiting for a miracle. In fact, let me tell you. Do you know? I've seen people flocking to churches. I'm not a gymnast. You receive. You receive. When I say, I'm a, I'm a man. I'm a man. It's okay. But once they leave that church and they go back home, the question is, do you have a plan? Are you going to receive that car? How are you going to receive that house? So after you receive, you go and work for that. Seriously? You go and they make a plan on how to get it. You know, that is why, you know, sometimes these people are giving false hope. And me, I call it a false hope. But when my mom says I'm a man, I say I'm a man. You know, when I say, hey, miracle, miracle, miracle, miracle, miracle. And it is okay. But when you look at those mamas, you say, you see, I'm not going to fire me. It is like, oh, mama, I'm because of the capacity. I'm because of foundation. This mama can be very successful. This mama can have their own money. This mama can have their own house. This mama can have their own business. What they like is the power. Do you see now? Yeah. Yes. So after you can't spend the whole day receiving, you need to go out, set your goals and, you know. You go back. Work for them. You work for them. You know. As a man, I'm not going to party, but lend me just work for it. And anything, you know, anything that you want, you must work for it. Amazing. But by the way, I was saying this, lack of commitment will deny you success. So commitment is also okay. Yes. Lesson is, it will render you to very poor. The Bible says that. Very poor. Yeah. I want to go and do your research, even where you come from and the people. They are doing nothing. You know, there was a time you asked me about the quote that I wrote on Facebook. You do nothing. You become nothing. Nothing. You become useless if you are doing, but if you do something, you become somebody. Something. Do you see now? That's why we are insisting that your commitment will be equal to your success. Okay. The more you are committed, the more successful you become. You become. So yeah, you're also saying, whatever you plant, you harvest. Yes, whatever you plant, you harvest. That means people must be very committed in whatever that you are doing. You are a CEO, be committed. You are a teacher, be committed. You are a principal, be committed. You are a student, be committed to what you have decided to do. The goal that you have set, be committed. But if we set goals and we say, Baba, to make wajia. To make wajia, your thing. God, everything we leave it to you. And we want to say, plan. Plan is my plan. God wants people to bless our plans. In fact, I don't know the book of Proverbs 16. Yeah, say commit your plans to the Lord. Commit your plans to the Lord. Who wants to eat? My son. What do you have? I want to bless your plan. Mu, Mu. When you say, I want to say, I'm not going to plan yet. So don't go to God empty. Go with a plan. Go with a plan to God. When they call it, this is what I have. Please bless it. And I can tell you, my sister, you know me, I'm not old, but I can tell you God has blessed me. You plan something small. You continue working on it. After a few days, you are successful. My producer said the love they meant. I meant. So that's why I have said, whatever that you have decided to do, put all your commitments. Do you see? Put all your commitments. Even that's what a Bible says. Whatever that you have decided to do, put all your commitments, those goals that you have decided. I've seen, I can, I've seen, sometimes me, I'm very keen, very observant, seeing what people are doing. I've seen people, something. After a few days, they have a shop. But after one year, after two years, because of the commitment, you know. So if somebody wants to change your life, increase your commitment, what you are doing. If you are a student, increase your commitment, increase your success. You are a principal, increase your commitment, change the performance of your school. If you are the CEO, increase your commitment, and change the result of your company, the profit. And you've said commitment is also, is it also the same as consistency? Consistence means whatever you are doing it, continue doing it. There are people who have, who have known what you call, have not developed the spirit of consistency. Consistence means continue doing it. That's how you are going to come back. Today you are committed, tomorrow you are not committed. So you are not consistent? You are not consistent as such. And the consistent is the key to success. Will you continue doing it? You continue doing it. You continue doing it. Focusing on it. You continue doing it. Do you see? Because there are people, I've seen even, maybe I've gone to school, sometimes I ask, they come up with structures. I've talked to companies, but they have come up with structures. They work on those structures within just a few days. After a month, they are not doing the same. They say, consistency on what you are doing it will give you a breakthrough. You become an expert on that area. Do you see now? That's consistency. Consistence breaks a breakthrough. Consistence brings a breakthrough. Yes. Consistence will return weakness into strength. Do you see? Consistence. Do you see now? So once you are committed on what you are doing, what another thing that makes people not to achieve their goals is I was saying this, is fear to fear. Fear. Okay. Fear of failure. Do you see? What if I fail? What if I start goals? Like my brother was saying, oh, you know, I don't because of Corona. Corona will not come again in Jesus name. Now set your goals in the name of Jesus. My faith. My faith. You know. So there are some people who fear. Like now me, I'm an other. What if I write a book on the people they used to buy? Fear of the unknown. Yeah, fear of unknown. What? I'm not the kind of person who makes a mistake. I'm not the kind of person who makes a mistake. So what if I, you know, that fear. But I want to tell you, start something. Even if you fail, you regain experience. You have run something. You are a better than that person who has not started anything. You are a better. So it's because the failures are less than. It's a lesson. Maybe. So that you have said, don't fear to fail. And I want to tell you, success is moving from one failure to another without losing hope. Amazing. Repeat that. Success is moving from one failure to another without losing hope. Wow, profound. Yes, you see. There are people, even in this life, me, I started as a small hotel. I started as a small hotel. So for a short period, it was just one year. And we can discover, this hotel is not really working very well. No profit. Then what I did, I crossed the business. But from there, I moved into taxi. Do you see? Because I learned a few things from what I was doing. There was a breakthrough. Do you see now? At least in everything that you do, even if you fail, at least you learn a lesson. Amazing. You started a relationship and it did not work. It's okay. But have you learned a lesson? You're moving from the next failure to the next failure. I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. But what have you learned from that relationship? So take something. Okay. Do you see? So at least you have learned that now or next time, I will be more careful. Next time, I'm not mature. Next time, I'm a better person. By the way, let me tell you, the challenge that people go through, they make you too mature. Come again? The challenges that you go through, they make you too mature. Okay. They make you mature. Are you listening? So you can only listen. So they say, wait, they shape you. Do you see? That is why in every challenge you go through, learn and listen very fast. You only continue saying, oh, I tried this. Oh, I tried this. Oh, I can't do this. Oh, I can't do this. Oh, he has a business here. A partner. Learn and listen very fast. If you are quick to learn a positive lesson out of it, you will be able to move. Maybe you started a company not to work. Learn and listen. Maybe you are a student. You are a businessman. You want to pursue your career. And you do not do well. Learn and listen very fast. Do you know? Because when I say, if you want to be a better person, it will depend. The lesson you learned from the past. You get what I'm saying? Because otherwise you will keep on revolving around the same mistakes. Nobody does not make a mistake in this world. Nobody. Human beings are not perfect. In one way or another, in this life, you will make a very simple mistake. You are bound to make a mistake. You are bound to make a mistake. But the question is, have you learned out of it so that you can achieve your goal? That's why we are telling you people, don't give up. Learn and listen and keep on using. So some people, what is funny, some people, they make a mistake. You will say, Akistaki, anyway, I'm using, because we are the youth, sir, listening to us. And I say, Akistaki, because of one aspect. Because of one aspect. Learn and listen. They are a good man now, sir. They don't kill you, sir. Learn and listen. You will make a mistake. So you will take your lesson and learn. Learn and listen. You will make a mistake. Even if you don't make a mistake, you will make a mistake. You will make a mistake. If you want a short one, there are many. If you want a tall one, there are many. If you want a fat one, there are many. So you don't kill yourself. Yeah, at least you would have picked the red flag. You know better now. Yes. You move on with life. You know, sometimes you will see something with this young girl. Maybe you have a set of calls here. You will say, why don't you want this here? Yeah. And then move. Sometimes I will say, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You don't call me now. I'm sorry. I'm a father. I have a few days. I have a father's message and a man here from today never called me. Never called me. Don't come. And then I will say, I will touch you. I will touch you. I will touch you. Don't kill yourself. Another one will come. God bless you. God bless you. Remain positive. Love yourself. Move on. Because you have goals to achieve. Imagine that people have killed themselves. Imagine that people who have committed society because of failure. They never failed their goals. They remained hopeless. I will say, oh, I don't know what I should do. But we want to tell people, still, there is another day. There is another day. The skies are there. Yes. In fact, we all say, there is always a second chance. Even if you fail today, there is a second chance for you. Yeah. A new day is coming. So, I will say, I will come back. I will come back and I will say, I will touch you. I will touch you. I will touch you. I will touch you. I will touch you. I will touch you. What do you think of when it becomes? What can I say. This is very serious. So, I say, you could have remained positive. You love yourself. I say, yes. Even if I fail, it's just a situation. My potential and my kidding remains. Tomorrow, I will be successful. You pick yourself. You pick up yourself and move again. Yes, you pick yourself and move on. Yes. I can tell you. When I was there, to Mali, maybe. I'd say it's a goal. And I'd say, so that time I was a very poor man and I had nothing. So I was like, I don't want to eat my food. I don't want to eat my food. So I sent a message from today it is over. So I said it's okay. But I said, if you eat my food, it's hard to eat. It's hard to eat. It's very hard. But you know, look what God has done after many years. God has blessed us. We are doing well. Sometimes we meet, I'm driving and I'm like, hello, how are you? How are you doing? Yeah, look at me now. You know the way we are today. It's not the same we will be tomorrow. I tell you, today we may be struggling. Somebody may look at your life, you have nothing. You know, and I could charge and I said, oh, you look all blessed. Who knows about tomorrow? That's why somebody you are not supposed to give up. Because tomorrow it might be a different story. God can open a door for you. You can get your job. You can get married. You can be employed. So never should you give up on something. Never should you kill yourself. Never should you commit suicide, as we say. Never should you give up. People are saying from today, what's the end of the day? They say, what's the end of the day? But we want to tell you people, your story can change. The story can change. I can tell you tomorrow is different. Talking as a pastor and I'm talking as a live example, your story can change. Wow, amazing. Don't look at somebody the way it is today. Look at that person, what will become tomorrow. Okay. Right. So now speaking of that, what about people who want to change their habits? Because maybe it's their habits that are obstacles to them achieving their goals. You know, when you are felt and you have discovered some habits that have maybe contributed, what you do, you know, habits, it's a practice. It's an act. What you do is to change. And the change is possible. Change is possible. You can change. Like now, if maybe you are a lady, you are maybe a man. Let me use a man or a young person. You always say yes to anybody without looking at this person, the background. Do you see now? You can change that habit. When I say I'm from today, I must do a research before I say yes to somebody. Do you see? Maybe you are a person, once you've been given money, you spend on drinking. After one month, in fact, if you want to have a salary, you can have it within a week. If you want to change, you can have it within a day. What do you say? The other day you earned, where is the money? You can check your spending, where does your money go? Do you see? What is affecting your process and your success? So because I've said, change is possible. Change is possible. If you are drinking too much, change is possible. That it can affect your goals. Do you see? If you are into drugs, I tell you, change is possible. Have you ever seen people? They were so bad. But after a few days, you meet that person and you wonder, hey, what happened to my friend? When I come back, he formed. The person has changed. The person is now better. So to change your habit, you change the practice. You change the practice. Yes. Because habits come with practice, something that you do every day. And then it becomes part of you. Wow. Amazing. So that's why you change your practice. And finally, as we conclude on this conversation, maybe some highlights that you want the viewer to remember. They have already set their goals. How do they achieve just a summary of everything that you have said? Now, I want our people who are listening to us to notice. If you want to achieve your goals, number one, set something that you want to achieve. Number two, be committed to that goal that you have set. Number three, don't give up. Number four or five, seek help. Maybe you have been defeated on that goal that you have set. Seek help. Because somebody can help you to succeed your goal. Don't lose hope in this life. Don't lose hope. Yeah. Your commitment is equal to your success. Remember that. And even your bad habit that is maybe affecting your process, your success, you can change. And remember this. This spring is the key to success. Amazing. This spring is the key to success. Okay. This spring is the road to success. This spring yourself as much as you can on finances, on your association. Do you see? On how to relate to people, maybe you are working. This spring is the key. This spring of saving. This spring of pursuing your goals. So remember this spring is the key to success. Amazing. Thank you very much, Jeffrey. Where can people find you on your social platforms if they want to get you? That's your camera. Oh, those who want to find me, I have Facebook, Chofre on Why, MTalks and mentorship. Also, Chofre on Why. Okay. Yes. Thank you very much again for giving us such amazing insights. We are glad to have you in the show. Thank you so much for inviting me. Okay. I'm happy. Maybe you're ever, maybe you have a company. You want somebody to talk to your people. You have a school. You have an institution. Maybe once you can invite me. All right. Yeah. So my number. If you want to give, yeah, you can give your number. Yeah, my number is 0720, 043, 620. Okay. So that's it. Thank you very much. Chofre there has been Chofre on Why. He's a motivational speaker. He's an author, a pastor and so many titles that he holds. Talking to us about achieving goals. And one thing that I've taken from it is do not lose hope. And discipline is key to gaining success. And just write your goals down. It is also very important. That is it from Kareel. But more is to come. Brian Sakua is coming on board with Politics. And of course we have MCM. So keep it locked up to us at Y244 channel.