Liz Cheney Spars With Lawrence O'Donnell Over Waterboarding





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Uploaded on May 22, 2009

O'DONNELL: It was George W. Bush. It was George W. Bush who stopped waterboarding. Liz, you know who stopped waterboarding. You know who banned it. It was the Bush White House that stopped it. That's who stopped it. That's who said we're not-

CHENEY: Lawrence- Would you like to hear what I do know? 'Cause I'm happy to tell you what I do know. What I do know, actually, is that there's a big difference, as I'm sure you probably know too, I don't know if when you were in the Senate you had access to classified information. But there's a big difference between information that really does, in fact, compromise sources and methods, which is the information that was in the legal memos that were released, which is why you had four former CIA directors and the current CIA director ask the President, please don't release this information. The point that my dad has made is now that that information is out there, now that we have said to the terrorists, here's how we're going to interrogate, here's how we used to interrogate, we won't be able to do it anymore, the American people-


CHENEY: Lawrence, let me finish my point.

CUOMO: Hold on, Lawrence. Let Liz finish.

O'DONNELL: Liz, you didn't let me finish so we'll play it your way. Go ahead.

CHENEY: Let me finish my point. Thank you. All we're asking is that the American people themselves have the opportunity now to decide. The American people should be able to see, because this whole debate is about whether or not enhanced interrogation kept the country safer. There are documents that show the intelligence we gained from that program and the American people ought to be able to judge for themselves. That's the main point. I think you know, it's fundamentally, you know, disingenuous for the White House and its supporters to say, well, the President can't declassify these memos or he can exercise his right to classify some but not others. I just think the American people deserve better than that.


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