 Good evening everybody. Today's the 20th of October at 7 0 6 This is the regular board meeting in the island and housing authority And we'll start with a roll call Nick You're on you. Yeah, sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah, Joanne here our here and Fia Rella through Jack's phone Yeah Oh, yeah, that was great Okay, so I'm just gonna read it off. I see I want to read off the public participation lines one more time Folks wishing to speak so we can give them ample time to figure out how to do this chat thing So when we get to the public participation section towards the end of the meeting In really in an effort to conduct the business of the HAA and to maintain an orderly meeting Where by all can hear and understand what it said without being talked over I'd asked that everybody abide by the following guidelines The tenant presidents the tenant presidents will be recognized by the chair and do not have to raise a hand or send a message We'll recognize each one of you I'd ask that your presentations are specific only to your facility and the tenants residing in your facility that you represent I would also ask that any maintenance or building issues are brought up in your monthly maintenance meetings And not during these board meetings That's the director of facilities and his staff are better prepared to answer and resolve any of those issues We bring up as the board is not typically able to address these concerns without any additional data or research Any tenants wishing to speak you should send a chat directly now from this point on We've determined that you have to send a chat to the chat feature You won't be able to send a message directly to one of us on the panel. It doesn't let you do that So just simply send a chat message and everybody in the panel would see that chat So send a message with your name your address in the subject that you wish to present I would also ask that you refrain from bringing up any building and maintenance issues as I said those concerns are best brought at the maintenance meetings You should also bring them to the attention of your presidents will turn bring them up in the maintenance meetings And you can also report those issues directly to the AHA be the phone system And as I stated earlier Those meetings can resolve these things faster. They have the staff to deal with it And the research and the follow-up and a plan of action However, if it's urgent or a president or tenant does not feel the issue has been adequately addressed Well, there are privacy concerns. You should send an email directly to Jack Nagel the interim executive director will follow up with you personally And don't hesitate to do that if that's the case The general public anyone wishing to present during the public participation should also send a message in the chat feature stating your name, your address and the subject matter you wish to present And depending on the subject matter. I may not recognize you tonight, but add your subject to the next board meetings agenda Where we can engage in a more inclusive dialogue and keeping compliance with any open meeting law requirements. Board response and time limits. So in except in unusual circumstances, any matter presented for consideration to the board Shall neither be commented upon by board members nor decision made the night of the presentation If deemed appropriate in order to conform with the opening meeting law the subject matter may be added to the next board meeting agenda The subject matter may be added to the next board meeting where by the AHA staff and the board and the public would have prior noticing to be prepared to address and answer any questions accordingly Speakers will be allowed a three minute time limit to present this may be extended to the discretion of the chair or if requested by any board member So again, if you wish to present, please just put something in the chat I'll keep a list here so if this chat gets long Don't worry about it. I'll keep a list. Alan I did see your request and we'll fit you in here before you have to take off. So with that, let's move on now to the interim executive director's report. Jack. Thank you. So the start off of Winslow towers the window replacement and building envelope repair project is near completion. We are meeting with the HD representatives the contractor and the architect to discuss some potential change orders they'll be needed related to the building envelope repairs. I will have more information at the next meeting related to this. The notice to proceed has been provided rustic fire protection just start the work on fire pump it at the fire pump at Winslow towers. So the recommended low bid for the common area ADA bathroom project at Winslow towers and chest not manner will be voted on by the boy tonight. At chest not manner the balcony surfacing project is underway. The property manager Caitlyn Roberts will continue to provide project updates and notices and notices to residents as needed. The contractor has begun work on the replacement project and Qsac terrace barriers have been set up in the Qsac terrace parking lot for resident and public safety. At Drake Village one of the committee members from the creative place making committee Ceciline Miller, from our commission for the arts and cultures working on implementing a hike who project with the residents of great village. In fact, if our projects like like this will play a major role in the creative piece of the creative place making project. We are excited to work with Ceciline the residents and other committee members as we move forward. At the not only manner I hope to have information soon related to when the survey for the window product for the window survey. Sorry, I hope to have more have information soon related to when the survey for the windows and the not only manner will take place. We recently got assigned a project manager from BHC relate to that so that should be moving along fairly quickly at this point I hope to have more information soon. We will be meeting with residents and the not only manner next week to discuss capital needs. This will help us to help us continue to engage and receive feedback as we prepare for next year's capital improvement plan. We plan to do this at all developments throughout the course of the year. We have met with representatives from Verizon with regard to upgrading to Verizon files, the meetings have been productive, and Verizon agreed to send out a letter to residents indicating that their service would not be terminated on October 26 2021. As indicated in a letter that was sent out on September 7 2021. And to my understanding, residents have received that notice, which I'm happy to hear. Our resident services coordinator Tricia organ has been doing a great job working with residents. She is also currently working on a few different initiatives that will provide residents an opportunity to get back in the community as well as connect them to other residents and agencies. One of these initiatives is to enlist the help of residents and writing letters to veterans and active duty service members this fall. And also the Allington Housing Authority is participating in the subsidized housing emergency rental assistance program, better known as Shira. This program allows residents to self certified certify and provide authorization for the Allington Housing Authority to apply for rental assistance on behalf of eligible residents. We have received over $17,000 in rental assistance for residents that have been approved so far, and we hope to continue these efforts and increase that number substantially. Board Chair Brian Connor and I have been invited to attend a training slash panel conversation by Chief Flaherty from the Allington Police Department and Jillian Harvey, the town of Allenton's diversity equity and inclusion division director. I'm hopeful that we can collaborate with Jillian Harvey Harvey further on creating new training programs from for Allington Housing Authority staff. Also in regards to laundry management service due to supply chain related issues automatic laundry will not be able to install the new laundry machines until mid December. We will work with them to get the units installed as soon as possible. In the interim our property managers are available to provide change for residents that are having difficulty getting quarters residents that are interested in this scheduled appointment with their property manager. Great any members have a question for Jack. Oh good thanks. Thanks Jack. I feel well I think I lost you for a minute. She still did check. I just I just got her back on so yep feel well the practice to stay on the phone if you can. All right then moving moving along along number four approval of low bidder and award of contract in little city construction. The Allington Housing Authority accessibility alterations to common bathrooms chestnuts at chestnuts chestnut me and a Winslow towers in the amount of $191,414. Yeah so that's the recommended below bear that came in from from the design team that we're using for this project. We're excited to move forward with the project and get it to get a start date and issue them the notice to proceed as soon as you can. Okay, so we have a motion to accept that. I think the motion to accept low bid for chestnut man DHCB project number 010093. Second second by Nick all in favor. Joanne. Yes. Gar. Yes. Nick. Yes. You're Ella. I thought I got her on here. She's on mute. Oh, she's on mute. Yeah. I have, I feel a little back. So be your Ella, your vote on that approval of. The cooperation, the common bathrooms. It's actually number four on the list. No, you don't have a chance. She said yes. Sorry. Okay. Let the record show that fear is also a yes. So that's the unanimous vote. Now we moved to number five. Proval of proposed change, but a request. The balcony service project, the chestnut man. Jack, you want to comment on that? Yes. So, so that change order that's being requested. The reason for that is that once the contractor, the team got out there to look at the, the actual balconies. There were a lot more cracks than initially anticipated, which has driven up the cost. So as a result, it's, it's, you know, we, we. We worked with them to come to this number was initially a little bit higher. We were able to bring it down. So. Us and the architect and DHD are comfortable with this. Okay. So do we have a motion to approve number five. Hey, Jack, I just have a question. Like what's. It's off like by 10 grand or something. Like they were off. Yeah. It's a little more. Labor intensive or it needs has to more cracks or more talking. Exactly. So I, so there's more cracks, which results in, and the unit price isn't, isn't changing at all, but the, the amount of units itself is changing, which is driving up the price. And then the other aspect that. That drove up the cost to was the need by the contractor. For an additional lift. So between the two of those two items. We, it resulted in that, you know, about $10,000 total change order. And then our architect looks at this cost increase, right? They do. And then the engineer and project manager from, from the state will get it as well. Okay. Just out of curiosity. Well, how. How far is it off of the next bidder? I don't have that information. But I get, I get what you're getting at, but I can get you that information. No, that's okay. I'm sure it's still conforms to. I'm fine with it. Okay. So I'll actually make a motion to approve it. If you guys. It's okay with you guys. Approve change order for DHC D project. Oh, one. Oh, oh, nine four. Chestnut manner. Second. Okay. We have a motion. All in favor. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And Fiora. Great. So I'll actually make a motion to approve it. If you guys. It's okay with you guys. Approve change order for DHC D project. Oh, one. Oh, nine four. Chestnut manner. Second. Okay. We have a motion. Great. Great. Great. Yes. Brian's yes. So the motion passes. Move the number six update on. Integrated pest management. Jack. So we're, so we've moved into another phase within our efforts to. Move to an integrated pest management model. We currently have a request for proposal. Out being advertised. The closing date. Well, the opening date for those, for those CO proposals will be November 4th. So we're excited to move into this next stage and continue our. The work with this, whoever was chosen as well as with the town of Allenton's health department. To come up with some. Meaningful ways to improve this, the service for the residents. Great. Any questions. Jen. Yeah, I have one. Before this is the new contracts approved, are we, there's still past management. Yeah. Available to the tenants, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And one of the reasons why it was last year, you know, probably. It was a cross town issue related to increased amounts of pest. Pest activity, but it drove our costs up last year. So we're in an area where by mass general law chapter 30, we need to put it out for proposal to be in compliance. That's the, that's the new contract. What we, what we need to do is to put that out for strategy. That's what we are now, you know, over that, that, that dollar dollar value over that $50,000 value for our entire portfolio. Okay. So there's not a motion here, right? No, just not just just update. So now number seven COVID update. Are the enough. I think today they just voted for the. Boosters for Moderna. On the news, but go ahead. You want to update us on that stuff. Yeah, so the guidance that we've received so far from the state is that they don't expect the federal pharmacy participation program to be reinstated. And that was the program that provided the large numbers of vaccines for our residents in which the town of Alton was able to be our partner and provide those. However, they are indicating that they're encouraging us to have our staff and residents vaccinated or get their boosters if they haven't already and to work with community partners to help them get transportation if needed or leverage additional partnerships where needed. But they've also, when the Pfizer booster came out, the state said they were going to try to work with housing authorities that did use the Pfizer vaccine in their deployment. So we'll see what ends up happening now that they have approved the additional ones and maybe that will kickstart some additional conversations opportunities. Yep, yeah, and I saw on the news it did say that you've got to go to the pharmacies now. So, you know, perhaps reach out to the local pharmacies and see if we can work with them. So we'll continue to work on that one. Number eight, discussion resident holiday meals. So one of the items that's been brought up a couple times in the tenant president maintenance meetings are the holiday parties that typically would happen in the December timeframe. The tenant presidents have asked, you know, if they can go ahead and stop planning these. However, obviously we have no idea what December is going to look like, never mind next week with the way the pandemic is moving along. So I wanted to bring this to the board's attention just so I know last year we did provide holiday meals. Hopefully, they would be able to still have parties, but maybe it's worth a discussion anyways. Yeah, and the current status in Arlington is still masks. Is that correct? The public health director? And like you said, this is very much an unknown. I mean, if it's obviously if it's still masks and you can't have these large groups, then I think we should definitely do those meals again. I think it was, you know, sure it was a lot of work, a lot of coordination, but the presidents were really the key in helping us put that together and we made it successful. So anybody have any thoughts on that? The members? No? I agree with what you said, Brian. Probably best to just plan on so it's just getting the meals again. But yeah, I mean, I think if we if we come to November and like things change, I mean, they could put these parties together rather quickly. So let's put it on the agenda for the next month. Do you want to raise your hand? Yes, I just wanted to know if you'd have the same way of making meals available for the residents of Monotomy Manor that seemed to work out well last year. Yeah, yeah, I would honestly, I thought Dags did a great job. It was easy. They were very easy to work for. I know I went back and forth three or four times because somebody got the wrong meal, the wrong dessert, and Sam up at Dagestinos was more than willing, more than willing to change things. So yeah, it would be my recommendation to do the same. I mean, he may have a different meal. Yep, go ahead. No, that wasn't my question. Fine. But we'd have to hear back from the residents about it. But are we having the same? We're giving these coupons to people at Monotomy Manor. Yeah, I would do this. I would do the same. I think I think that worked out very well. Yeah, I think it was. Yeah, I mean, again, it's a lot of the staff, but it worked out and especially in light of this COVID where we gather. I mean, I think it worked out pretty well. So, so you know, why don't we do this? I'll chat with Dagestinos at some point. But let's put it on the agenda for next December, next November, next meeting in November. Hopefully we'll have good news. They can have a party and but if they don't, we can certainly put something together. Well, so number nine request to be recognized by the Monotomy Minute tenant organization. Now, unfortunately, the board members just received their bylaws this afternoon. I have not had the chance to look at it. Jack, you want to add some light to this? Yeah, I mean, they provide the bylaws and they also provide the letter to be recognized. You know, I understand. Yeah, the board may not have had a chance to fully look into it, but they have provided them by my understanding the items that they need to to be recognized. And maybe John Greco would be able to provide some additional comments on that. Can I also actually add something to that? And Fiorella is asking to speak, Brian. Go ahead, Fiorella. So yeah, so again, so I went to the bylaw meeting that we had. I'm not concerned about that. I think that the whole board should have some time to read over it. There were also some things that were voted on at the meeting that haven't been added to the bylaws yet, so maybe given some time with a time situation as well to add that in would be ideal. One being that adding, being able to request or receive within 7 calendar days a copy of the meeting agenda, so minutes from any of the regular held, you know, our meetings slash their meetings too. It hasn't been added to the bylaws yet. I don't know if they just maybe didn't have enough time. John Greco has anything to add to that, so. So do we, John Greco, do we actually, does the board have to vote on these bylaws or? Well, the board should vote to accept them that they've properly presented bylaws, which are acceptable to you under the regulations. They look like they're very well drafted to be honest, but that doesn't mean that if there were things that were supposed to be put in that were omitted, we shouldn't, we should ignore that. So if there's things that have been omitted that were agreed to be put in, those can always be added. It looks like it's a professionally well done set of bylaws. I've seen them before. It looks like pretty good. But again, if there are things that were supposed to be in there that didn't find their way in, we should obviously check that and make sure those are in there because if that's what was agreed, that should be there as well. But help me with our governance of the organization. No, we aren't approving the bylaws in the sense that we're saying that everything is perfect in the bylaws. We say they've met the threshold of submitting appropriate bylaws. The bylaws, for example, had three pages and they didn't cover a lot of the important areas would say this is not really a good set of bylaws or a full set of bylaws as ended in the regulations. But it looks like it's a pretty extensive one. I haven't had a chance to review them also myself, but I just did them a little while ago. So it looks like it's a generally good set of bylaws. That's all we would look to. It's a set of bylaws that meets the regulations. However, if there are supposed to be things in there that were agreed upon that didn't make it, obviously, the people who agreed on those things would want those things in the bylaws too, and we should make sure that that's corrected if there's any errors. But that would be up to the next meeting and not necessarily us. John, your advice, since you read them, should we vote and accept them or should we wait till next meeting or have another meeting? What do you recommend? I have not read them yet. I just got them a little while ago, so I've kind of reviewed them. The only thing I've looked at is they seem to have the elements of the appropriate bylaws, okay? But I haven't looked at every word in it to every paragraph to see if they've got everything. But I guess what's important is if they voted to have something added there that's relevant, they should tell us if they believe something's missing or there are things that they agreed should be in there. They should let us know and we'll let the committee know that there are people who acclaim that there are things that were voted on that were not there and that has to be resolved. It should be resolved among the committee members. So is there any need or urgency to this? I mean if we put it on to next meeting or is anything going to happen or not happen? No, I don't think so because as far as the residents having a say and being participatory in the things they have a right to participate in, this wouldn't affect it right now. This is just a kind of perfunctory requirement that they should comply with, but I don't think it should affect any of their rights at the moment. Okay. So we've accepted the election, correct Jack? Yeah, we presented the election results last meeting. That's right. That's always an informal vote, I don't think. So perhaps we could vote to accept the election and then because we didn't get the meetings, the bylaws till a short while ago, we could put those on the next meeting and then give Fiorella or anybody the opportunity to chat with Jen, the president, and see if they can be adjusted accordingly. Does that sound like a plan? Anybody have any objection to that? Can we have somebody put that into a form of a motion? But it's a motion to hold accepting the bylaws until next meeting. I didn't hear that, Jack. Can you repeat that? She said she put into motion holding the acceptance of the bylaws until next meeting. But accepting the election and the election of offices. Is that right? It already happened. I'm okay with that being about the past. It's just the bylaws and the auditions that have to be made to and then we're going to be voted on at the bylaw meeting. Okay. So I think we need a motion to accept the election of the manor for the local tenants at the local station. Okay. Second? Okay. So let's have a vote on that one, Nicar. Yes. I vote yes. Mick? Yes. Yes. Edwin? Yes. And Fiorella? Yes. And Brian, it's a yes. Okay. So we've accepted the election so that and now I don't know if we actually need a vote for this because we didn't give it out enough time for the public meeting. So perhaps we'll just table the minutes and put it on to the next meeting. And that would give the committee an opportunity to work out any of these bugs. That sound like a good plan? Yes. Yes. Okay. All right. So number 10, it's Dennis and John Griffin. So I had spoken with John Griffin a short while ago, days ago, and he did inform me that he is going to retire and as of the end of October, the submitter's letter for the end of October. He certainly will stay and help on board on a consultant basis. If Jack needs him, I know Jack is working diligently with him on passwords and access of different things. But he's decided to finally retire. He's been the director here since I believe 2007. He's been, remember the board of commissioners for Nick, correct me, 15 years prior to that? Yeah, at least, yeah. So he's been a stable force here and well deserved of retirement. So in that, and with that in mind, I'm going to assign a committee, appoint a committee of five persons made up of myself, Nick, as the longest standing commissioner. I'm going to John Greco as the attorney, Rich Conlin as the CPA, and I'm going to appoint a tenant president to be on the committee. That will be the hiring committee. We'll advertise per DC HD guidelines. The data will come to me directly. So I assume Jack is going to apply for the position. So we'll keep them out of this entire process. And we'll determine a matrix for establishing qualifications. And then at one point, we will have a public meeting in which the full board can meet as well as the tenant presidents and ask questions to when we boil it down to the limited applicants. So we'll have a pretty inclusive and very, very open of board process to determine the next executive director. The timeline, I personally, I think we could get it done and get some in the position and probably by the end of November, I would hope for in November, sometime in December. In the meantime, obviously Jack is still interim director. We'll hold that position until then. So that's any questions on that? Yes. Is there any required length of time in terms of advertising and waiting for responses or deliberations? Is a month, is what the state requires or will accept? Yeah, DC HD is pretty clear in all this. I didn't print it before tonight. But Jack, you will advertise for the maintenance spot. And do you remember what the timing was? It probably is the same timing. I don't remember off 100% off hand, but I think it'd be at a minimum two weeks, but it could be a month. It's in public housing notice 2021-03. Yeah, so we obviously have to follow DC HD guidelines on this stuff. There's a new regulation. I'm sorry, I don't exactly remember what it said. This year, I think it has to do with diversity and affirmative actions sort of thinks that we have to advertise for so long and we just want to make sure we get it right. Absolutely. And then it's the advertising in certain communities and newspapers that this new regulation kind of mandates. So we are certainly going to follow it. That's why with John Greco and Rich Condon on the board, I think we can be assured that we're going to follow all appropriate measures. Any other questions on that? Okay, number 11. Just one thing, we're going to do something for John. We should sort of recognize him as a longstanding great commissioner and board member. I fully agree. I like I said, he's got many, many, many years affiliated with the Einstein Housing Authority and well deserving of retirement, but certainly well deserving of being recognized as a true leader. We think back and the millions and millions of dollars that he secured in funding. So I think we'll put your thinking caps on. Let's move on from another agenda, another meeting or so, and then we certainly should come up with something. I agree. So number 11, a regular minute meeting minutes of 9.22. Number 1221. Do you have a chance to look at those? Yeah. Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. Oh, go ahead, Carl. No, I'm just going to say they look okay to me, but Joanne, go ahead. Yes. When Jack gave his report and talked about the flu shots being vaccines being given out in the senior residence, I did make a remark that I thought there should be some effort to make them available to the residents in an orderly manner because the flu shots are done by the Council on Aging, I believe, with the Health Department and of course the family, our family units are not covered by the Council on Aging. So I just like that in the minutes, please. Thank you. Okay. So do you want to make a motion to accept the minutes with that added in there, Joanne? Yes. I move that we accept the minutes with the addition of my comment after Jack's report. Yeah, I will second that. Okay. All in favor, Gar? Yes. Nick? Yes. Joanne? Yes. Ellen? Ellen, I'm sorry. Viarella? Yes. And myself as a yes. And now I realize that I didn't recognize Ellen, she put a chat there if she could talk to 4730 under local tenant organizations representing the President of QZAC. Ellen, are you still on by chance? Ellen Lay? Yes, I'm, I stayed on. I'm sorry, I'm sorry about that. So Ellen, Mike McGinty is the President of QZAC and Mike is a not a nighter person. So he's asked if Ellen could could step in and give a report. So I see no problem with that. So Ellen, go ahead. You're on deck. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, I just, I just, there's a couple of things that I wanted to bring up after speaking with Michael. One of them was, I think at the last meeting, there wasn't a decision or information yet about whether the tenant associations would be getting the money that they normally get. So in terms of planning, it would be great to know if that determination has been made. And if so, when it might be expected. I can answer that. We're actually working on that now. Jack's coming up with a proposal for that. The, the state stipulates that we've got to give $6 per unit. And that funds are to be spent on the business of the tenant association, printers, paper or things like that, not necessarily parties. So we're trying to come up with some type of a too fast to two phases here. You know, you technically can't get any funds until you have bylaws and you submit a budget. So we need to work with the associations to formalize bylaws and get budgets in before we can send checks. So it's on deck for the next. And I don't want to call it a maintenance meeting with Jack early. We should probably call it president's meeting. So that's where a lot of the meat and potatoes would get done. So it's on deck for the next meeting. And hopefully we'll have something in play. They have to give you an idea on that one. For the next president's meeting. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Another just quick issue was it's not a specific maintenance issue that would be discussed at the maintenance meeting, but just I know there had been some talk some years back about like a maintenance checklist. I'm not sure if it might be a state based one. Maybe it has to be adjusted for each building, you know, these buildings vary. But, you know, if there is some kind of a specific checklist that the maintenance team goes by in terms of, you know, making sure that individual things get done and overall things get done on a regular basis as needed. Just for transparency, if the tenants could or the tenants presidents could have access just in terms of, you know, having a sense of how this process gets done. Yeah. Definitely a question. Definitely a question for the for the president's meetings. Okay. And I just wanted to just give you a quick update regarding the flu clinic. And you may not even be aware of this, but I'm involved like every year when we try to do this, but this past year, they only did two of the buildings. And to they ran out of the flu vaccine. So two two buildings didn't get the shots. So anyway, just hoping to try to prevent that from happening next time. Like, so for example, I'm still struggling to get mine. I'm like, you know, I wanted to get it a month ago. So just maybe just to keep that in mind for another time, like to make sure that we order enough so that, you know, to make sure. Who did that, Ellen? Was that the town? I think, well, I think it's Council of Aging with maybe the Board of House or something. The Council of Aging, I think, coordinates it. And I guess they ordered a bunch and they ordered a bunch of the high dose. And then they did some then then they for for two of the buildings that didn't that they ran out of, which was QSAC and I think Chestnut Manor didn't get it either. And they said that there would be something at Town Hall, which isn't isn't the same as being in your building. And it also happened to be that it was only for people over 60. And it was for people in the town in general, it wasn't, you know, it wasn't for our buildings. It was for anybody in Arlington who was over 60. So anyway, just trying to, I mean, it's it's done now. It's, you know, but just trying to, you know, for next time to just try to make sure that we can make sure that all the buildings get covered, because we want to make it easy for people and, you know, make sure that it's it's something that people can get done. I'm actually really struggling to get my flu shot now and I wanted to get it on the go. And I'm high for risk. So, you know, this would be I had asked like, well, could you reschedule it? You know, it just seemed like it was a done deal. So it would be great if next time the same kind of problem doesn't get repeated. That would be great. Yeah, we'll look into it. Thank you. Appreciate it. I'm sorry for making you look. Yeah. Okay. All right. I got to go. All right. Thank you. Happy Halloween. Enjoy the full weather. All right. Pam Hauser is Pam on from Winslow? Let me just find her. Here we go. Can you hear me? Yes. Go ahead, Pam. Yeah. Okay. First of all, bad news. The Red Sox are losing seven to one. Oh, yeah. Bad news on effort. Okay. We had an incident here in the building today and I was very appalled of what went on. And since Brian, you and Jack are going to be meeting with the fire chief, I think you should be aware. Fire alarm went off in this building today and it took the fire to pop in over 10 minutes to get here. And it was quite disturbing since these alarms are extremely loud. And I can walk faster down to the fire department than they took to get here. And I think that should be brought up with your meeting with the fire department. The only other thing I have is just to let you know, I'm one of those that I can't go to the office to get quarters. I don't have a check. And it took me four banks today to get one roll of quarters, which made it very difficult for me. So I just want to know that and when you come to the holiday meals, my treasurer and I have been calling caterers to see if we can book something. And you know, 90% of the caterers are all booked through December already. So it's going to be very difficult to get a holiday party going. But the main thing I want is to be people to be aware of the fire alarm that went off at over 10 minutes before the fire to pop in came. It would definitely bring that up. Thank you very much. That's all I have. Okay, thanks, Pam. I didn't see Sharon from QZAC. Jack, did you see anybody from QZAC? Chestnut. I don't see anybody. I'm sorry. Chestnut. Yeah. Yeah. We don't have Drake. We need to get an election up here again. Yeah. So let's go to Jen Hernandez. I don't remember. I know Jen's on. No, I, yep. Unmute. Unmute. Okay. I'll set. Yeah, go ahead. Okay. So thank you for recognizing the election. And I apologize that the board didn't have time to familiarize themselves with the bylaws prior to this meeting. However, I believe that we've done all that we were supposed to as far as to get recognized, as Jack had said. And just to correct Fiorella, the bylaws were done with all of the stuff that was voted at the bylaw meeting was put into the bylaws. I myself edited them as well as the secretary who put in all the changes. So unfortunately it's, we'll have to wait for next month. I understand you already motioned and voted, but it's, I don't know if there's a way to change that or not because the, what they said was actually not accurate. All right. Well, technically, technically we have to advertise this stuff 48 hours before the meeting. So we really can't, we're unable to vote on it only because it wasn't properly advertised for the public, the open meeting law. So, okay, you know, so with that, you know, let's put that on one side. On the other side, there's really no urgency to it because we've accepted your, your election and so forth. So that's not a big deal. You know what I mean? I think the only advice I would have is, you know, chat with Fiorella and see what, what are these items that didn't make it on me? We're pretty aware of that because another tenant who wouldn't have had access to the bylaws messaged one of the council this evening before the meeting saying the exact same things that Fiorella said and said that she had a copy of the bylaws but wouldn't tell us from whom. So this is why this is a little bit more concerning as far as, you know, the fact that there's questions raised about the bylaws not being the way that they were supposed to be after the meeting. So, yeah. So that, that's your first challenge as president is to try and meet that and see if you can all agree on it. We already did that, Brian. Actually, we already did that. Okay. So, so whatever you present to us next week, so let's put it this way, John Brecker will review them. Wonderful. If there's any changes, he or Jack will give you a shell pack. And so whatever you present to us next month, we'll just, we'll vote to accept it. I mean, again, it's your work product. It's not our work product. So, so we'll just, we'll go from there. Okay, sounds like a plan. And, you know, we look forward to building a very productive and peaceful relationship with all of you. Great. Great. And we appreciate you stepping forward and volunteering. It's a lot of work. It is, but it's worth it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. So we move on to public. I have one person who's asked on public, John Ward. Did you see anybody else, Jack? I just read it. Yes. There was, there were three individuals that asked. One was Mr. Ward. Can you shut Lily enough? I'm not Lily Lance. Okay. I responded to Fontanant's comment and directed it to our attorney. So I don't think we need to bring that one up. So I have John Ward. And did you say, who was the third person? Mary Ann Donovan, I believe. Okay. I don't see that one, but let's, let's go in. And I think it's Mary Ann Donovan. Mary Ann, could you just confirm in the chat if that or whoever's. Okay, let's move on to John Ward from Winslow Towers. And John, your question is about the maintenance director's position. Brian, real quick. Kelda said you didn't get your response. Let's check the chat. I, I initially emailed and it went directly to Jack, then I emailed the entire panel with that. But so if you don't, so I'll just tell, since Kelda's comment went to the whole panel, the response that I emailed the whole panel, Kelda, is that you should contact the attorney, our attorney, John Greco, directly with that concern. So his email is johnlgreco at Verizon.net. So I would bring your concerns directly to him. All right, John Ward. Go ahead, John Ward. You're on mute, John. John, you're still on mute. Now there's two John wards. You're still on mute, John. John, you're on mute. Okay. Can you hear me? Now we can. Go ahead. Okay. Thank you. The end of June, Winslow Towers had its first tenants association meeting in over a year. At that meeting, we're all the people in attendance were notified by the director of maintenance that he was going to retire at the end of July. So that's been over 12 weeks ago. Nobody has seemed to have given anybody information on what's happening with that. Yeah. I mean, the short answer is he is not retired yet. So he hasn't put it in his papers and he's still functioning as the director of maintenance. Well, so like I say, we make this information public at one place and it turns out that it's not true. How do we get that stuff corrected in a more timely fashion than me having to address it here? Well, I think the first point is when the employee decides to retire and puts in his papers, then we would know he's going to retire. So he has not submitted his retirement. I don't know what he said at your meeting, but he has not retired. I know he will retire at some point in time, but so once we know, he said that he was retiring on July 31st. Yeah, well, he hasn't. He hasn't done that. So who do we believe? We got to believe somebody, Mr. Conner. We're talking about a senior member of the Housing Authority Administration. We need to know this stuff. But to keep this information up to date somewhere. Yeah, I'm not sure you actually need to know it. I think it's more important for Jack to know it, but that's not true at all. So, John, when when the director decides to retire, we'll make that notice and we'll make the appropriate search. So that's all I can tell you. The search has been going on since the beginning of July. So I don't know. I'm just going to say it one more time and then we're going to move on. Well, that's what you do all the time. You keep putting this stuff off, Mr. Conner. And that's what we have to do with you because you're not hearing me. The employee has not resigned. Well, you have an answer. When he retires, we'll initiate the process to replace his position. Straight honest information. Can I count on that as being the gospel, Mr. Conner? Okay, it's time to move on, Jack. Who else do we have? And was there Mary Ann? Mary Ann Donovan. Mary Ann. Hi, can you hear me? Yes, go ahead. Okay, great. I wanted to just acknowledge the retirement of John Griffin and Nick's acknowledgement that something should be done to honor that. And I'm wondering, I mean, I know there are COVID precautions and so it makes it all forward, but I know there are lots of people here at Drake Village, myself included, who would just love to say goodbye to him. You know, he's really done a lot for us. And so I just wanted to put that out there. I know that there are precautions in place, but if he could maybe come here and we could give him a cake or something. So that's it. Thanks. I think that Mary Ann, that's a great idea. And I think when the time comes, we should definitely do that. It's a great idea. Thank you for that. I believe Vanessa Roselle was also asking to be recognized. Vanessa? Right? Correct. Vanessa? No, Jack? It doesn't look like she's responding. Okay. Okay, seeing no other. Seeing no other. The person's requesting. Do we have a motion to adjourn? I move to adjourn. Can you hear me now? Oops. Oh, let's table that for a second, see if you can get her back. Yep. She's on mute now. Vanessa, you back on? I feel like I'm talking at this big shuttle. Vanessa? Yep. Hi. Can you hear me? There you go. Sorry about that. I just wanted to say a couple of things. First of all, thanks for attempting to, I guess, recognize this tonight. And I know Jen touched what I want to touch on. But one was last holiday, we didn't receive the dagastinos. We received the $10 gift cards to stop and shop at Monotomy Manor. I just wanted to correct that. And maybe this year we could potentially get a meal or something different. We ended up going with the stop and shop gift cards down here. Fiorella had suggested that. It was very nice. But it would be nice if we could get something cooked for us. And second of all, the main issue that Jen brought up is the bylaws. We had a great turnout. Of course, there was a little drama that was to be expected. But we voted on all the things that are noted. We checked notes amongst all five board members. We edited it. We printed it. And we had two residents have copies of our new bylaws in their hands today. The only people that have them are us and the board members, you guys. So Fiorella bringing this up, and yes, I am calling Fiorella directly out because her name was brought up by one of them. It doesn't seem like this is legal. So I am going to contact Jack Cooper about the legality of those bylaws being handed out to tenants before them being recognized. And Jen did touch on that. But where we are supposed to go forward with this, there is not much to go because we know what was voted on, as does the room full of people. And Fiorella and a couple of two people that didn't win the election are saying otherwise. So I just find it odd that we are holding this up for three people's opinions and not fat. Hold on, Vanessa. Hold on one minute. I don't think you've probably heard me when I explained to Jen. So there's two reasons. Number one, we didn't get 48 hours notice so we can't vote on it. But number two, it's not really something of urgency here. It can wait till next month. I think more importantly, it's up to you folks to go back and resolve this and not us. We don't tell you what to write in for the bylaws. I mean, there's certain things, as John Greco said, have to be in there from a DCHD perspective, but not from our perspective. It's your work product and it's your organization, so you guys are going to have to work this out. So that's the challenge of the president and the board. So honestly, we don't need to go through the he said she said. I mean, Fiorella lived down there, so she would have a voice as a tenant, of course. More importantly, but more importantly, as a board member on your end, I don't think on a professional level that that she should be handing out papers. I mean, she shouldn't be handing out papers from you guys to us to tenants. And I just want that to be known. That's more importantly, I was just saying that I'm being accused of something that is not true. It is what it is. It's very unprofessional, Fiorella. That's all I want to say. No one wasn't. Fiorella, have a good night. All right. So again, it's you guys need to work that out. So good luck. I'm sure you'll be able to do that. Anything else? Okay, Nick, we'll go back to your motion. I move to adjourn. We have a second. I will second it. All in favor, Joanne? Yes. Nick? Yes. Gar? Yes. And Fiorella? Yes. Great. And myself is yes. So thank you. It's he's adjourned. Thanks. Thanks, guys. Thanks, Brian. Thanks, Jack. Thanks, everybody. See you. Thanks, Jack.