 of 713 and welcome all our guests are there any agenda revisions I guess my the board goals here I assume are the talk about the goals we just looked at right at the exact at the full board okay just start talking about what do we yeah yeah good and any public comments we have lots of guests here and I understand you've been here since six I'm really sorry sorry that did not get communicated to you in the right way I'm Adrian Wade Keeney I'm a teacher I'm Samantha Allen I'm Gabby's mom and this is her sister Addison she goes to Berlin welcome Pam DeAndrea callous resident and I assume you guys will start with you guys since you've been here for an hour okay so I have a little opening statement and the Black Lives Matter movement was established four years ago and was built on bringing attention to the violence that was being inflicted on black communities and it was also built on anti-black racism throughout the years described into focusing on trying to make a world where a black person can be successful economically socially and politically we started bland for people of different races to come and talk about the struggles that they have because of their race we talk about the everyday things that are said to us by ignorant people and the looks that we get because we are not white racism isn't the biggest problem at E32 but it is a hidden problem and a lot of the racism that happens come from people who just don't know so they don't see the harm that they have done to hang the flag would be to show that we are invested in supporting the movement and making people aware that the very few not white students at E32 also matter we believe that Montpelier started a big thing by hanging the flag and we would be we would like to be a part of carrying that on it's not about someone's life mattering more than anyone else's it's about my life mattering the same as yours so stereotypes they're hurtful ignorant and just plain wrong being half Mexican I myself have been a victim of stereotyping I've heard is your dad legal to you jump the border to get here hearing racist comments especially in the building where you're supposed to feel safe is very discouraging to me having our school hang the black lives matter flag shows a starting movement to put an end to the stigmas people are facing every day it's important that our community accepts each and every person no matter where you're from or the color of your skin by hanging the flag we let the minorities know we are there for them that the people in our school understand that even though you're African-American your hair is real and just because you're Asian doesn't mean you're automatically super smart in every school subject not only being a member of BLAM but of you 32 I truly believe that the black lives matter flag will be a positive contribution and it's something we need to see as we step foot on campus to finally stop those ignorant stereotypes to me the flag we need the world because when I first came here I felt really out of place and just uncomfortable and I think it signifies a lot of or symbolizes a lot of bigger things other than what we talk about it would make a lot of people like me feel more comfortable when they come here and just feel like they're accepted yeah I've been working or like I'm part of the BLAM group which has been a really powerful experience and it's been a really safe space I think that we've developed for like people to talk about their experiences and I've come to really understand and kind of see as I'm much more than present in the hallways that there is an undertone as I think there's a looks there's dialogue there's certain things that don't get picked up all the time but it's very present and I think this would be a really powerful and positive way to start this conversation and to have this conversation kind of be a present part of you 32 for as long as I know I've been referred to as a half girl but that's not my name you see instead of seeing me for me people have seen me by the color of my skin the first time I felt different from everyone else was when I was in second grade when I was asked if I was adopted because I wasn't the same skin color as my mother through the years I've been called nigger numerous times by my own classmates one time in particular was when I was on the eighth grade school trip and nothing was done about it that made people think it was okay if they said it because they knew that they wouldn't get in trouble I believe that we have a chance to change this and we can show everyone that is not okay to dehumanize people of different races because we don't look the same sometimes I go places where everyone should feel comfortable and equal people give me dirty looks just for being different and I've never been anywhere where sometimes I can walk into a store and grown men can just glare at me for no reason without knowing anything about me and I hear a lot of things and people don't understand that cultures are different all over the world and they don't understand that our hair is not much different from theirs they think it's okay to ask us inappropriate questions because we're not the same I didn't come here tonight I have an African-American little girl so please to support this before she gets here so thank you guys thank you very much it's really what you said is very powerful curious as to what the social justice group here is is doing yeah I think that social justice and student council everybody sort of wants the same thing and it's just more of like a matter of execution because I think there's definitely a lot of support for it it's just like you guys came to the board and like asked to hang it which I think is sort of like the logical next step so I think that most sort of like what you said before the meeting Jody that like some people wouldn't be in favor but the vast majority would so so the process in the board if we want to take an action to raise the flag which is what we need to do we it has to be on our agenda and we are meeting next Wednesday so my suggestion is that we put it on our action agenda that way we can discuss it as a whole board you can come back if you want to we would love to have you or we can carry on the discussion and then we can make a decision next week legally we can't do it today because it's not here does that make sense to you guys and we would love to have you come back and really proud of you guys for coming I know it's not easy to do that and since we're meeting in six next week and if you come and if you come at six we will put you at the top of the agenda we won't make you wait until wherever it is on the piece of paper exactly when when we have board comp public comments because it's not on the agenda we don't engage in discussion it it's just the way it is and so we now know and I don't know if next week's doing council or some other groups also want to come and support you know it would be great for us to hear from everybody all at the same time so we kind of had all the information and all the people and I know that's not very long to kind of pull that together but that's just I could thought it's just a thought yeah that meeting but just as an out kind of an outsider perspective I'm not a part of the group but I am a teacher at you 32 so from like if you look at it from a standard perspective or or a transferable skill perspective which a lot of people like to do which we would like to do also great let's do it you'll notice that I think we are really trying at you 32 so hard to get the kids to speak on things that they're passionate about and that's really hard to do even in the our room it's hard to sometimes get somebody to be inspired and the fact that we have three but actually even more kids asking for something that they really believe in I think is is something that's really important in the transferable skills also and other standards probably global citizenship I know that it's within the art standards as well and then the other piece that the teacher mentioned as this this connection with Montpelier High School I find really inspiring like we also really encourage you 32 to get out in the community and we don't see that very much and the fact that we would be responding to another school in our community in a positive way I think would be really powerful so if those two things can be considered thank you for making the connection to the standards because I think that is really important just a couple of things so first what is blam what does that stand for I wrote that down blacks Latinos and many more is that a you 32 yeah you figured that out thanks and this is not listed as a quote transferable skill but the courage that you guys are bringing forward is very wonderful I mean it's really really great to come here and speak to us about something that's difficult to speak about so everybody is more encouraged but I applaud you guys for coming forward and being courageous I see a very proud mom back there so you're welcome to stay did you want to say something I'm sorry I was curious what it's all in the reports that we got from elementary schools there's these Montpelier doing every Monday all school lesson where they're working on their PBIS bullying curriculum etc etc what are we at you 32 doing to make this on what you've experienced that you've shared unacceptable you should not experience that there should be punishment and repercussions for especially the blatant being called Edward what do we do I mean are there are there social justice are we getting together together as peers and saying what when you do this to me it hurts this way would you want that and and peer to peer owning these things so a lot a lot of the work that we do is through TA and I guess one of the hard parts about that is not knowing for sure that every teacher advisor is following through with the curriculum that's provided for that every school year starts with a bullying and harassment two days in the callback period so that's two 30 minute slots there is an executive committee of students and Lisa LaPlante heads that up and basically that's the students from all of the clubs so if you don't have a person represented there I would recommend reaching out to Lisa they are they've been working with the civil schools curriculum which we got last year when we had a guest speaker come in he did a leadership training for about 40 students and then did a whole school assembly throughout the day we have the curriculum from there and that group is kind of sifting through it and trying to decide what's going to be useful to try to share out they had intended to share monthly in callbacks stuff to do I don't believe that's happened yet we certainly have some other curriculum that we use in like health classes students can report students don't always report what happens and sometimes what I understand is that things get reported we try to deal with it and things get worse before they get better and so that makes it hard to to report we have had several reports of possible bullying or harassment this year that we've investigated fully there have been some findings and there are responses which sometimes include restorative circles but everybody needs to be safe to come to that process so sometimes it includes other educational aspects. Can I respond at all? As far as our group goes, the teacher has really been leading this group. The group has started this year and it's been pretty quiet and our goal is really to have a pleasant voice and the students have all been talking about hoping to create some way some sort of where they speak to all the classes and have this moment where they talk about what it really feels like and express like so because that's when things become real right and like and to the friends who like certain things are okay that it's actually not like to really have these voices for them. That's the goal as we move forward. Is there similar stuff going on with the LGBT community in the school and like a joke to one kid like oh you're gay how much that hurts? Absolutely. That's actually been going on longer. Glam is the gay lesbians many more and they've been working together much longer. They have a lot more work that they've done with students and with faculty to hear the comments and absolutely I would say the majority of reports are around bullying and harassment are more about that. I don't think we're hearing from the majority of what might be going on with these and sometimes it's really hard to speak up to your friends and sometimes it's the friends that are doing it. Last year we also had an issue around harassing language about race and ethnicity in the eighth grade and we brought in the Peace and Justice Center and took 38th graders and they met with three trainers from Peace and Justice and some of those students were involved and some of those students we just saw as leaders and they worked through some stuff. So any ideas are welcome. We've been wholly supporting this group and I appreciate that they came forward and we're so courageous today but absolutely we can always do more. I feel like you've planted a seed. We're starting and it's gonna grow and blossom and hopefully bring really good things. So I encourage you to come back. It will be on our agenda next Wednesday and we can do it right at six o'clock or five after or something. Okay. Thank you very much. Yes absolutely right. I don't certainly can't say that I have the curriculum, the studies, whatever the term is for the book of studies, all the classes that are offered. Okay. But one thing that's been on my mind for a while is you know what if any classes do we offer in ethnic studies? What do we offer in terms of Native American studies? What do we offer in terms of you know those things I think really need to be looked at because that's all part of American history and to really I think have a full appreciation or at least more of an appreciation of the entirety of American history which isn't also great. Those things have to be looked at and talked about honestly and frankly because many things that happened here were not so great for Native people and other people so you know that's part of people growing up and learning about other people or people that don't look like them particularly in such a wet state than we have here so that's a really important thing I think. Yeah I also would like to say sort of what you brought up like as a student I'm in an AP history class and really all we learned about is like white people and I feel like that's definitely a problem because that's only a small part of our history and I remember when the Montpelier kids raised the flag they sort of talked about like how they didn't feel represented in their education so I just feel like some steps could be made to be more inclusive especially in history because it wasn't just all about white people. I think part of the issue with that is that we do have two US history classes but the AP curriculum that you have to know for the test doesn't support that like doesn't support more comprehensive view of history and so anytime that we take to do that in class is taking away from the test prep time so that's I mean that's a bigger issue that it expands past the school but we did have two new courses proposed and put forward for social studies one was country China focus on China for semester and current events current events got enough students to run the China did not but I think I would advocate for our student groups to recommend possible new courses in the future and take part in that process. I think there's a whole lot you guys can do absolutely once you get going you get the support would be very powerful and this is a perfect time kind of in history to do it. I agree because my 15th birthday I had a Kingston year and that's a big celebration of my culture and none of my friends knew what that was and you know I had a couple snarky comments about like how that's too much for a 15th birthday when you know that's what my family does we've been way before my family so I feel like it is important for our community to be educated on those different cultures. I have something to add on I love your idea of adding classes because I'm mixed with Native American and African-American and I would love for people to be educated about things I feel like it would help this clear up a lot of things. Any other public comments? Yeah, hi, Candy, Andrea again. I'm just gonna send my comments from the last meeting previously and just I need to know why if a student leaves the school because they're not able to attend because their needs have not been met why I really appreciate you talking to me last time why it's not number one within the board's jurisdiction to make any decisions and number two why I can't be on the agenda and put going to an executive session and that was the language I was asking for in an email to Adrienne what that language is the language I got back was that a child can get special education services if they are enrolled here I know that very clearly that's not the language I was asking for my question is why cannot we further discuss an issue like that in executive session and why can't I go on the agenda and why can't we just admit this for any kid not not mine this is for any child and if that's the case if the board cannot discuss that this says to me that the staff and administration can do anything or not do anything for a child and if the parents have to take the child out of school because of that then we can't talk about it to the board that doesn't make sense to me and I really need clarification on that and why and I pay taxes here my taxes support the staff here and I would like some oversight of that staff whether my kid is here or not because I live in this district and my children have tried to go to my child has tried to go to the school my other child is coming to this school and goes to Cal so I think I deserve that and I'm not on the agenda you say you can't talk about people not being on the agenda I asked me on the agenda but I'm not so tell me how to handle this so as a school board our job is to carry out the policy of the set the policy of the school and carry out the policy of the school individual student situations go through the administration and it's my understanding that the Vermont laws and procedures for what to do with your child weren't followed completely so it's not a board issue you know you can go back to the administration and figure out with them but right now it's not a board issue I backed up the staff I went to the superintendent backed up the staff I went to the state I followed the procedures the state did not give me a voice I'm coming to my board I don't know why that's not a board issue I'm coming to my board it's my understanding that those Vermont procedures and statutes weren't actually followed that's a misconception so so my suggestion is to go back to the administration that was dealing with those procedures and for you to to figure out where the procedures fell apart and for either of you to figure that out and that it's I don't know what to do Adrian because that's not my suggestion that's not gonna happen my suggestion is you go try because my understanding is those procedures weren't followed I can't say anymore I feel for you but I suggest you go back and try again I'm really sorry but we are bored and we can't deal with individual students that we don't let's not let's not even talk about this individual student what do you do I'm not gonna discuss it anymore what do you do Adrian if something is done on the staff level that's not okay for a kid what do you do my understandings were that the Vermont laws and the procedures weren't followed and so you need to go back and figure out where that process fell apart and put it back together again and I I don't even have more information than that I don't know where they fell apart we last meeting and I'm not gonna talk about it anymore Pam we spent a lot of time and my suggestion is to go back and figure out where those procedures fell apart and work from there it's it's all I can say try okay approval of the minutes consent agenda March 7th and a second right Lisa 4.2 I think the last two paragraphs of that section are out of order people agree with me on that so they would start with the motion 4.3 sorry 4.3 it continues on to another page the last same motion probably to adopt should be before Scott Thompson suggested that exactly because the approval happens in that Scott Thompson paragraph yeah you're right I think those two paragraphs I think the last paragraph that starts motion yes should be the second the last paragraph before the paragraph of Scott Thompson that should be the first paragraph right the motion it starts with a motion and then you go into the resolution and support a little confused by why it says so moved at the end of that first paragraph yeah I think I think so I think Krista might have made edits by mistake maybe we did vote on the motion sorry it was moved so I think we had all this discussion before we made a motion we handed out the East Montpelier and the Montpelier drafts do you remember that yeah we handed those out we looked at those and discussed them that's true because my motion was based on our decision but there's nothing in that Scott Thompson paragraph that came before the motion I think we should reverse those switch those two paragraphs and sorry it was so moved and then after he made the motion we suggested some edits yeah you know what happened he did some edits and then later on after we did because remember you did him yeah yeah but that makes more sense you get that Lisa so if we're just switching those paragraphs and taking out the motion yeah yeah although we do want to acknowledge the fact that we voted on the motion so that's not in here that's not in that that's so moved I think in place of so that should be at the end of the Scott the motion carry yeah okay so they have one other one which is near the end 9.0 the second paragraph where we're talking about the damn issue Kari Riley stated that the board no it should read Kari Riley stated that the superintendent anything else stop yes I was wondering about 1.3 did anybody else feel uncomfortable about the specific mentions of when pound when the minutes talk about her child or I was thinking if we could edit out references to a specific child because of even though she said it even though she said it's in our minutes how about if we just take out her child has prevented children from meeting eligibility requirements okay everybody's okay with it that's fine I just yeah essentially you're getting a consent if you come into a public forum and you speak right you're okay our concern would be no and we certainly can't say it and there's no right here saying that we spoke today yeah okay okay thanks thanks for thinking about anything else all those in favor say hi do you guys want to do your report first you're good you're there for a while we're not gonna be a really long time we've had the excitement for the discussion reponse excuse me response to the AOE regarding the act 46 questions so we got in our full board I wasn't even in the packet it was kind of attached to it an addendum that addresses the special ed task force report and then the efficiency study and it just goes into a lot more detail about the kinds of things that Washington Central has done to address those two I guess in that half-hour meeting they were able to give specifics about them and they as Matt said they felt badly about that I read Matt's recollection I read Matt's recap of that when I got to that part of it I was yelling in my garage like hold on the reason we haven't done anything about those things yet so the question is can we pass this so that they can submit it to the DOA tomorrow as part of our report kind of an addendum to the report and Scott is the right person to ask the question to if you have any questions I think Matthew did a great job with it yeah it was very clear yeah it has some help yeah so if there's no other discussion I'll entertain a motion I'm just gonna move to the action agenda to accept this response to the AOE you absolutely right Scott moved and a second Jonathan more discussion all those in favor say aye opposed that motion carries next on the agenda is board goals I turned around and looked at all the sticky notes on the charts in the full board meeting community engagement investigating policy governance bought board monitoring had the top three by far and then school safety had a smattering and there was one other that I couldn't really make out get you the toes yeah community engagement we certainly have as a board goal for you 32 board monitoring we certainly have as a goal for you 32 investigating policy governance hasn't really come up right in our goals but I don't know if there's any discussion anybody want to comment about those three in general and then we can figure out when we're going to meet as a board to have a retreat to set our goals hopefully which reflects some of this work too we're talking about the WCSU board goals yeah not this board yeah I am in favor of a lot of things on this list that were not necessarily itemized on this I couldn't put stickers beside them if they seem like things that you make a to-do list and you start checking the boxes yeah you know delegate acceptance ball grants to the superintendent or reduce WCSU's and you 32 policy committees to one established common policies done yeah I mean like a lot of those but but why when I look at the student handbook for Eastmont Pillar Elementary why is it different at Doty and different at Romney what why are they the same handbook and I'm treated differently or have to have a policy of like follow a policy at one school and if I go to the other school it would be different so sorry if I'm so naive no you're well I've been there awesome history yes I'm trying to think about the right words to use the history has been so let me say this when I this is it's hard to believe that I'm just astonished I can't believe I'm in my sixth year right now okay it's like I mean it just didn't happen when I applied the tagline and I knew this before I even applied to the position this is that there were two things that were really strongly said to me we are a loose confederation of schools and I said okay I hear you I wondered in my head and my has there been positive experience from working together one of the things that act 46 showed was if if board members needed to get to know each other I assumed too much that there was already that knowing but there really wasn't that's what one of things I took out it's got you and I've agreed I think on that pretty pretty strongly there's a big learning like I wish I could put us all in for like social mixers every other month because I think that still needs to happen more okay I'm astonished at the micro level we look at differences amongst our five towns and micro might be too big it's really small like I don't see the differences between the schools we're very homogeneous in Vermont and we're extremely homogenous I've worked in three supervisory unions and this is the most together commonalities across five towns that I've had in those three it's been LaMonna South so Stonemore so very different demographics and then in Hardwick where the poverty rate was 95% for the kids in school we don't have anything like that here so and they had nine different boards with seven different structures so it was like wow so I think that that we really laser focused on our differences instead of our similarities I have seen to act 46 that some of that's come out so because of that there's a desire to have our own voice the only ones that can I haven't been there's nothing that's been explicit one of the things that I've been championing the past couple months as we've been talking about work to do together is and Matthew reiterated it for me again tonight so I didn't have much to say when he asked me if I wanted to talk so you said what I've been saying which is I'm not so concerned about the what is it that we're going to do together is that we're together on something what I have implicitly so that's what I want to say I want to use that word potentially using that word implicitly heard from the boards was and not so much from the board individual board members you got to let us have our own voice and do things our own way that's good for students and I've been clear about that I think I hope I've been clear about that and I want to allow that I mean I think the only way we're going to do that is to get there is is to talk about that and it's going to be through improving engagement I wish there was a faster way because I think every day that we don't do that we're losing chances for kids and that tears up my my police system but I don't see any other way for Washington Central when I first came in what I was thinking was it's going to be a 10-year process to get us there and that's what I've seen in other communities that we're started when you know this ever lose confederations of school systems but it was saying and you know it was doing the work what happened didn't expect it to happen in the grand scheme of things was act 46 came along and forced us to have the discussion a little faster than we were ready to have it because we had never those experiences of working for you well and I mean this is a this is part of a of an even bigger discussion even than act 46 and it took two years just to get through that so unless you want to sit around for a while so where we are in policy those we each school used to have their own policy committee and they each either wrote their own policies or took the BSPA policy and changed them we have now moved to at least one policy committee for the whole supervisor union so we've made progress yeah and I asked a question to the executive committee last last week I said I need to know and I think the policy committee needs to know where does the entire supervisory board stand on common policies because I if we're not there that's fine that's an okay answer we're not gonna we're going to common the required policies and that it that's fine but I think they deserve to know what is their work as a group and that's on our junior agenda and that's now on our junior agenda but and you know the board two years ago in curry helping with this but I think the clear message was you know work on the pieces that are in the operations but leave the governance to the boards and some of that is frankly being able to say there's a different way of doing work around here I need some support from the boards to be able to say that because it means changing people's jobs and what they do here's how I would summarize it yeah I haven't been around as long as you guys but there is a long history and cultural reasons why we have traditionally thought of ourselves as independent operators within this SU and that's slowly changing and meetings like tonight show us how far we've come but then you think about it there is just so much more work to do and well we can feel good about the progress we've made I share your impatience at times and you know let's let's move faster but also recognize that it you know we're a bunch of people with all with tradition and culture that this takes time but if you look at what we agreed to tonight there is a lot of collaboration there and you know if you followed that at 46 process for the two years a lot of that came out and instead of being kind of an undercurrent at least now people know where people stand and where boards stand and we're kind of where we are now and there is an agreement that we need to move forward together whatever that looks like and I think as we move forward a lot of these things will be able to be taken care of but we have to agree to kind of do that and I think we set a really good model for doing that and you know I've always felt that we can try to lead the supervisor union and we've done that the school quality committee and learning outcomes is a great example of a place where you know board members here were committed to that we as a committee worked on it we as a board worked on it and then we reached out to the other boards and eventually it took I don't know I think the leadership has it's come from other places too but this the U32 border owes a lot of credit for the leadership and I actually watched that happen with Hazen and in Hardwick you know when the Hazen board said hey wait a minute we represent a bunch we had to represent three of the towns here we should be talking about how we work together that started carousel started policy governance started what are we doing together and you know so maybe that's a 32 goal that we can start to figure out how to provide leadership to move that like collaborative work or something I'm just gonna write it here for a thought and keep that in mind and I want to make sure I'm really clear I mean there's been I agree with Kari and Adrienne about the progress there's been big progress but there's a long way I just take the story of Orange Southwest that Brent came and told us for many years couple times they took 10 years they took 10 years and they were very disparate so why don't we think about a date for a board retreat and Bill maybe you can help us with that you still want to go with our traditional we usually go at the end of May we've done April we've done May have we done April yeah we have May's better I'm going to Europe well we better not do a full day so the last Wednesday in May is not a full board meeting right right now it's penciled in as an executive committee but it's a fifth Wednesday so I do not know why that is and why it's not on the 23rd well then we could do the 23rd so 23rd might be the day yeah May 23rd so that's the fourth Wednesday that's the fourth Wednesday that's yeah okay birthday my sister's birthday so that'll be our treat we typically have done it at my house that is fine by me and we usually meet we tried me from six to eight we get dinner and then we sit out and kind of talk about how we've done where we're going some new goals and then I kind of pull it all together and bring it to the gym meeting although that'd be oh no be two weeks away okay and by then the supervisor you won't know anymore though we kind of have these dots to work with but you'll have typed that all up for us right oh yeah the dots are gonna get done so yeah okay okay I say that and Chris is probably yeah reports to the verbal sorry to the board central my career center can I help in any other way I'm gonna no step out no we're all set this is gonna be really quick actually students yeah I love having you here so since we last met there was a walkout schedule it was with Montpelier so we really good for opening up discussion in the school just like in the atrium today I heard a lot of kids having like really good and respectful discussions about gun control about school safety and sharing of different opinions actually listening to each other which was really nice to see I know a lot of classes have talked about it but that's it's definitely still on the minds of everyone even though I happened last week so yeah and there's gonna be a call back tomorrow for further dialogue so I think it's specifically Jody right it's geared at the kids who like didn't really walk out right to like get their voices heard or is it any good but yeah that's it's sort of like Shannon said it like started an important conversation and I have this and then we also had team health week last week which is sort of organized by our health teacher Meg Fowley and each day was sort of a different aspect of health so it was physical sexual environmental substance abuse sort of and then I'm like mental and emotional health so that involved a lot of like callbacks that were like focusing on a specific area so like there's one about like somebody who had been addicted to some drug and they sort of like shared their experience and then there was also like sexual health callbacks and it's sort of just a lot of it I think actually like desigmatized some of the issues that our community is facing like substance abuse and like mental health problems so I thought that was pretty successful spring sports started which it seems like there's no gap between sports seasons anymore which I think means our teams did well but yeah and next week we have a some students have a three-day week because we have a spec testing but 11th graders don't have to do it anymore which is good but I'm also a little bitter about it and then our last thing is that I mentioned last time at the board meeting that we're sort of working on this like restorative panel type thing and we had our last meeting was it last week yeah it was last week and it was sort of our first like okay like we thought of this idea now let's put it into practice and I think that it went really well and it was effective and everybody was respectful and I think that it sort of opened the door to a new way of thinking about problems in our school so that was really can you describe what it was well like I can't talk too much about it because it's like confidential but like but in general I mean was there an issue and a panelist and I just don't have a vision of what it looks like we threw the students into the fire that said they were interested in this and provided a scripted opportunity to deal with an issue that occurred in the school and so that someone presents the issue yeah the people involved present the issue and then the panel the panel helped to come up with how to resolve it and the person who was having the problem was part of the discussion of the resolution too so I thought it was a good way to work that out and were people happy in the end or satisfied that justice had been served I don't know that everybody involved felt like we made progress so that's a start everybody signed the agreement so that's actually our first restorative circle that required a signed agreement because it was more formal than any of the ones that we've been doing and the agreement with partially agreeing not to talk about it outside of that room which is like a main thing and then also just sort of talking about like the next steps because you can talk about a problem all you want but unless you're gonna figure out how to solve it then you're kind of not really doing most effective things so we sort of proposed like a step-by-step plan with a script right was there a script yeah and then and will you come back to it in a week or a month or or you're done you hope that it's carried out we intend to debrief as a group because we didn't have time in that callback we went over as it was and talk about that process and if that's what we want to move forward with for our student panel it will come back if someone violates the agreement and anyone can choose to come back if they if they think there's something more to discuss as well so yeah that's all yeah oh administration I'm sorry just to Steven sign yeah no no no I wanted to add that I don't remember in the calendar what whether this was before the last meeting but Lear was also presented in a theater was amazing one act and went on to not win this year but many of the actors and Carlson who basically wrote their production and directed it won some awards at the one act festival so amazing amazing yeah yeah the next newsletter will be going out Monday so anything that needs to go in it should be to me by Friday and I already have written down okay the next forum it does and Scott Steven was gonna give me stuff about the implementation plan but I'm not gonna write it by Friday I've got to teach the conferences tonight so yeah we're just working on that so that's not gonna happen but perhaps we can I wonder if we want to talk about the proposal that's gonna be in the next meeting and allow people to come or just talk about it afterwards so maybe it'll be on the May one what's what's really nice about this newsletter format is that I can edit it after it's been sent out so I can add stuff later the majority of people see it on the first day I don't know how many people go back yeah um I would love to say that that's gonna be on the agenda next one you know the black light the blam came suggested that you draft that and run it by okay I just I know it's not gonna happen by Friday and speaking of reparative I have actually been invited some of our incidents that happen in school get recorded outside because we're mandatory reporters and sometimes investigations happen outside that lead to other situations for students some of those have led to the Montpelier Repairative panel hearings and so I've been to four different hearings in the last month regarding our students that happened and so it's just been an interesting process and also to be able to see how it's similar to what we do here and and I feel like the restorative practice here really supported our students that were placed into that process there and do they call you to give information or to listen or be part of all of the above not really part of the panel but to provide information speak to impact and to also advocate it depends on a situation finance committee school start time subcommittee April 11 April 8 o'clock here right here in this room yes and you think you have 25 people or so yeah we got contact information from everyone so we have we're gonna email we can email contact what happens at the next one because some people were there and said I can't come to the next one and you saw we made the front page of the times I guess above the fold our salary oh yes yeah oh my goodness it was I was surprised yeah it was a print edition on the rare day it's all the word into our mail a couple times we see it actually agenda we have approved the response to the AOE we have a leave of absence request page seven from Kate McCann who has been invited to participate in the Albert Einstein Distinguished Educators Fellowship which sounds incredibly prestigious is it yes sounds amazing it sounds like Stephen supported her in applying to that yes absolutely so a motion to accept Kate's leave of absence Scott in a second second Karen this reminds me of what you want teachers to do yes and I have to give her a lot of credit for offering all the support she's willing to offer you know to come in and help someone get started and work with them in the summer that is about to be on which isn't surprising all those in favor say aye aye opposed that motion carries we have a motion for two resignations from Jillian Thomas who is a Spanish teacher and from Glenn Houston who is a social studies teacher can I come up yeah I'm very sad for Jillian my son Jillian sorry son has it's his favorite teacher his favorite class he I can't believe how much spam she knows I'm really sad and I'm very sad about Glenn don't have any more information so is there a motion to accept both of those can we not I mean I guess we approved a budget that has 0.7 Spanish teacher and there's not a full-time yeah reading in between the lines that's the reason is this a year she is leaving she has also accepted a job in South America so that's exciting so a motion to accept these resignations with sadness and gratitude and gratitude second and any more discussion all those in favor say aye opposed that motion carries and do we have the board orders signed yep is there a motion to accept the board orders here in a second I have a question let's just get a second yeah that's fine I'll second Carl go ahead ask a question it's not really it's just sort of informational myself I noticed the line item for the Green Mountain Valley school for the Alpine ski program and I realized I don't know anything about our Alpine ski program and that's a pretty big chunk of change we're looking at 5500 bucks it looks like I'm guessing for a year fifty-five six six thousand bucks a year and I'm curious what the participation is like what the program looks like I just don't know anything about it they used to practice at Sugarbush on Sundays and the coaches would come and coach and this is one of my kids so that was a long time ago so that I know it's sugarbush yeah and so they contract the coaches through Green Mountain Valley school yeah and that's what the money goes to is to pay the coaches and I don't know if they pay I know each kid has to have their own ski pass so we're not so we're not covered we're not paying that part I take that back we weren't I shouldn't I don't know that that's not there may be a cost associated with competitions just like there is for an audience skiing yeah I don't know a lot how many athletes do we have you less than 10 like I think between five and seven kids I mean I think honestly for the most part most people don't know it exists like it's one of those things that you hear through the grapevine and then like they don't know how to do this yeah and you have to have all of the equipment maybe I don't know yes you have to have to have that's sort of my next question is what's the socio-economic cross-section of that group of people I'd be kind of curious to know more about that and it was a much big when my son was on it we can come back for more information next time I was gonna do that when we got distracted 87,466 dollars and $0.25 all those in favor say aye opposed that motion carries future agenda items just to comment on the request by the flag I guess curious if they meant like every day all day that's the request but I personally support it but I I think we have to think about what is the criteria for approving such a request so when the next group comes and says I think we should buy this flag how we go evaluate it it's a pretty tricky question actually that's our job part of it when we thought this might come up at previous meetings we we had discussed the fact that you know Montpelier flying that flag it was at the end two weeks two years of hard work with with a program in school before they put I would be curious to know if they the superintendent or the principal of Montpelier high school they've instituted some kind of policy dealing with just that question what if on the question request because they may they may have did this request come to you guys yeah it went to Stephen and he said take it to the board yes to present to us yes not to make the decision about flying a flag in front of the school he felt like that was a board decision yes and this is basically just sort of sensitizing us so that we can ask the kind of questions the car is asking I don't think that they knew that tonight that we wouldn't act on am I right about that they asked and I told them that I didn't think you could act on it tonight okay but that you would take the information and that you would certainly appreciate hearing from them yeah okay I'd be happy to volunteer to call Michelle Braun and ask her Carl that would be right across this would be terrific and I also have the what though those students presented to the Montpelier board it was in some publication I kept it it's in my bag because it was very thorough and very thoughtful and it did go through kind of all of the academic piece which I'm really glad Adrian mentioned briefly that it wasn't just this we want to fly right yeah but there was a whole a whole process around it and a whole sort of support of it just as a practical matter really have one flagpole right is that true Montpelier is it on the same flagpole we have two flags US and Vermont okay well it does seem like there should be policy or at least an application or criteria like you're probably gonna keep the US and the state flag up forever yeah is there a point in which you would feel like this is accomplished in this black and come down or is it approved year-to-year we prove it for a 12 month period or a school year and then it's renewed based on the criteria I don't know I will check our policies I don't know that we have anything about I don't know the policies that may just probably not about clients but there might be something about advocacy in general so those are all really good questions and I think this is gonna be a big discussion and it may be that we're not ready to make that decision in one board meeting we need more information from them we need more background we need to figure out our own criteria yeah and they hadn't really thought that through entirely because when we talk prior to and I think Lucy you were here for that they were talking about whether they should if they get the approval to raise it should it be in conjunction with some event here should it be a kickoff to event should it be the kind of the finale of an event so so they have more to think about as well so it might be that it's okay to hold I mean I don't know what we're gonna do and they would that I think I heard them say something about me so that I think is there a little bit of time but I think we should we should all think about the next week week one week right criteria and like the duration yeah I think it is to improve me year-to-year might be really good compromise for that then does it become a first-come-first-serve application process you know it's kind of like the memorials that we used to have you guys here I don't know if any of you were here for that and why we had a memorial when students passed away and there were you know someone built a bench and then someone else did this and wasn't that good when something else nothing happened for somebody else took us a couple years to come up with that policy or is now a memorial wall yeah but that kind of the same thing okay for communication why don't we wait until next week since we are getting back to batter together anything else I don't know if I'm here I've got a conflict okay so well I'm gonna check with George for sure I'd rather be here just to extract myself from the other meeting because it's a job no it's not my job motion to adjourn 825 thank you very much I forgot to do these correspondence we just got in today so they can go in the next meeting yeah there were letters from students talking about kind of climate change and you 32's role in helping to help us yeah so here are three new one no these are the three that came from Bill and Washington Central and these are the three I just opened