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Yes, what do you do Kevin? Yes, I'm a student at The Easter University Understudent leadership that is doza Outside that I do my small small job Yeah Eight years down the line A little bit guys Struggling in this city Nowadays I do something with But all my sentiment here Don't associate my sentiment Yes, and on that note Let me just be used forward at disclaimer anything that is expressed here does not reflect those of the views of the station That is these sentiments that are being sometimes it gets a bit heated or passionate and then run a venue on our car They're ready for me. So anything that you hear that might sound controversial It does not reflect the views of the station hashtag is one in the morning now Where do we start guys? We usually talk about the state of the nation, but There was a picture of three leaders we have the right on rubber They got we have the president of Vietnam 70 and then you have his Excellency President Ruto all If you were to capture that To say Yes, you had to capture that picture. What would you what would you capture it? What I can say about Rila Ruto and 70 being together shows that the East Africa community are together. That's number one Number two is that there is a way we are going there is a path we have taken and I believe that Ruto and 70 being together they were trying to Come close so that they can ensure that Rila gets the win of His ambition where he is anxious and ready to Serve the Africa. He is vying for a you. Yeah, and I believe that Ruto was there to To tell 70 that this is the best person And that shows that is the Africa I've joined hand together and they are ready to work What do you think? Incidence Back it was a handshake actually Because you can't tell me Rila will wake up in the morning and met Betruto at 70s farm That's it by mistake There must be a team That was working about that thing and there was a plan for that thing to happen President things you can't do in the morning and you are like president and I'm 70 No, this is something called protocol for presidents. So what do you mean the protocol team? They've been planning this thing long time ago. And then the issues was not the matter of African Union Council chairmanship. There's something this something like a handshake We call it soft Handshake behind the scenes Accepted it we need one Kenya we need one East Africa Yeah, and we need to move forward as a people and as a team. Do you find it a bit? Let me say strange or a bit I'm trying to find a word that is not too strong But let's call it curious a bit curious that if indeed it was a handshake We're just saying well if I don't know I'm not saying that my father was the one who was buying a home By mistake But in case it was orchestrated Isn't it a bit curious because that is excellency the first thing that he did when he came into power was You need to know you need to know Rila in mobilization Rila is aiming at a you sit. That's very true. That's very clear in public So you need to know Rila in relation to mobilization. We know Rila a person who can mobilize a person who has Appeal ability to bring people together. Yeah, so with that we can say that Rila was there to mobilize Yeah to mobilize the president the presidents of different countries so that they can support him In the seat that is very important These Mobilization This all about persuasion And these things you can't run you can't run the campaign or Nini as Rila You need the the government backup because the government of the day the president of the day is the one to present Your name your name. Yeah, the Rila's name will be presented by our excellency So which means before president? before Rila to Propose himself for the seat there must have been the talks behind the scene there must have been the handshake behind the scene When you are my enemy says he can't propose you that one, you know So the day Rila came to line online right and told the nation that I'm going for this thing there must have been something behind the scenes For me my point is clear Rila going into a you It will help the low community in quotes No It will help low community political politically. We're having the bondage of Supporting one party supporting one man one man. He's our guy, but now we'll be at a stake We'll be free for the president to come for us. Hello. So like we'll be at a stake now Because they come on. I'm sorry just this time become someone who is single a beautiful lady who is single Hey, so we'll be single So the highest be done But right now meeting 70 and rotor for me it was not a coincidence Okay, now this announcement that he made that like what you said has made actually a lot of sense because Protocol again. It must be followed. So before I before he made the announcement It's like it's as if it was orchestrated in such a way Yeah, the president was on board and he knew what he was doing He know it was time for and now now they're going together in one direction. Let me tell you something When I saw Basan Joe, I was just going to mention his name because he was very great It was the first time very vocal can't come to this country any former president or any president or any prime minister before they The government of that day before they visit this country before you saw them at JKI The government must be aware and there must be protocol in place. Yeah, so when I saw the bus and I was like, oh Think of it differently Think of it differently. What if Rila and a bus and you they had a talk behind the current government Ah After that then because this person was coming to the country it forced the bus and you to tell the government that yes, I'm coming in your country because of a conversation that I've been having with your one of you there is a Opposition leader so that in relation to this and this and this so the government was not aware of anything The government was not aware of anything. That is an assumption from my side They were given information after these people had talked Remember we are looking at also the age factor of Rila And you've you've seen him in different ways the way he has been vying since the first day to to date Yeah, and With these we can say that he has ability He has capability and that's why the other people other people from other country. They saw it Even let me interject something Maybe my friend is not here. We have run There's nothing as a coincidence in a politician life What we see there are bigger things behind the scenes That's number one These people they are there for their self-interest Quotes that's what I want to remove from your thought another thing is Obasan Joe as we know Bussing is not a pedestrian You'll just wake up in the morning and say I'm going to Kenya without informing the government another thing You should know how governments work. Maybe you're still a student. You know how government's what we have something called national intelligence before Bussan Joe arrived at JKI a big national intelligence must be aware and must inform the president The president former president of us is coming to our country to do blablabla today Even if you saw no information The information national intelligence must The information that I'm disagreeing from your side is that the information Or coming of Bussan Joe in Kenya was from the government side Maybe there was a conversation between the former president of Nigeria and Kenyans Opposition leader the big friends that one they bring in the government They've been friends that one I can accept. Yes, and I think that can happen is of which also accept is I Can't tell you bro. This is my enemy and I want him to help me do this But you are the best person to persuade him to help me achieve what I want to achieve That's also can be possible. But now this is my point. There must have been talks behind the scenes Before Raheela declare himself to be going for that for that seat So they are meeting it was not a coincidence. Raheela proposing himself even also was not a coincidence Yes, I agree, but Do you believe that there was a handshake between Raeela and Ruto and for all this thing happened? I believe that's I believe that long time ago for a lot to call off the manda man or for the Rila to stop about the issue of Economics you ought what so for a revolution there must have been talks behind the scenes Let me tell you something rather is not a madman will wake up today and call off manda man Before they have a talks behind the scenes bro. I'm telling you and I'm repeating this There is no coincidence in a politician life I let her talk alone and say make sure to name the manda man. There must have been something in a trigger Manda man to be there and another thing notice somewhere Politicians are there for their interest. I agree. I really agree on that Yeah You know, they are also carrying the interest of the citizens like the way you've said who carried your interest Rila carries the interest of me of who? My myself if I let get the win of a you a you chairmanship then you and me we will win Today if Rila wins Counsel chairmanship, how will you benefit directly? No, I'm not as I'm ready as comrade Kevin, okay. No, I'm not talking about directly in directly This is this is the way look at the person that will be in that office of Rila in Addis Ababa, there are people that will be working in that office Most probably they will come from Kenya Most probably they will come from Kenya part of them might be me There's a job creation Why are you not working at his office currently Mm-hmm I think I think Reason that way it sounds like he's being very hopeful. Yes for nothing But but there's something me I'm happy about and I'm encouraging Baba to go for the seat because Is an a good way sometimes of exiting politics? sometimes you don't wait until Until people get tired of you. Mm-hmm. You just get an honorable way of quitting the stage So for me, I'm advising Baba just for go for it after sometime quit the stage You can't be the best dancer forever People will get tired of you. I just read a comment this morning about how a very good dancer knows when to leave this day Yes, but that is not the context was different. The context was now about keep talking. Yes. There's the same thing I'm not agreeing. I'm just telling you what I saw. I'm rebutting But I'm really glad that you brought that up because yes when as soon as he made his intentions No, that meant that Should he be successful in this endeavor? He would have to take a backseat in local politics So now that's opened up a vacuum and people are ready on on that There's something Val. I wanted to all you did too. Maybe the current president His excellency William Ruto supported Rila because of simple factor simple simple fact This the guy who is giving me headache I remain with these guys I can deal with them When you nice that is some what so where and I'll help you go, you know There's sometimes happens in politics If this person can go for this then there's a half a cent of me retaining my my seat without struggling Hey, I couldn't have to spend billions in campaigns Because come on. I let's be honest about ourself Come on. I like about a lot. Then there'll be no powerful person powerful Candidate it will be like So what you are saying is definitely he's going to sit in for another term Should this go through probably when I look at the circumstances in the country, there is no person who can Vy and defeat him. Let me use that word in open way, but if Rila could have been in that bullet then There would have been some waves of him getting the chance You know, you know, there's a lot of things in this campaign. We have financial muscle as for now Rila and Ruto are the only people have the financial muscles to come paint for the presidency he's trying but There is the ability to mobilize also you can have the money and then you don't know how to Mobilize Rila and Ruto. They are the only two presidential candidates that have the ability to mobilize so remove the Rila's Factor subtract the Rila factor. They'll be meaning only Ruto Ruto can do 10 rallies a day In 10 different counties another factor so when you look at Rila exiting from the national politics You will find that You will find that it will affect it automatically it will affect them Luonian's a politic and other people who depend on Rila for them to become an MP for them to become an MCA Yes, you guys crying babies All of them crying babies We have all of them crying babies and sympathizers They are guys in Rila's people are in one corner Automatically Automatically, you know We lose we believe in Rila so much You can hear me, Val is blind I'll believe Val is blind Hey, Baba can hear me I don't ask how, I'll ask when That's how we lose we believe in Baba So, Baba Going for it will affect even it will change the dynamics of Luonian's politics You're not saying that we are going to be an MP for them to become an MP and then Baba and Mcaga Subiya will be saying I'll be an MP I'll be an MP I'll be the one to decide who's going to be the MP It's a dam So there should be casualties In fact that one will be an advantage advantage to our people. I believe that without that fact of Baba, we will now choose our leaders from our own heart, based on their development and ability. They will deliver. So what I'm hearing is if I was the right Honourable and I felt that Ken Oketia, Buwanoketia is my choice, but you are the one who is most qualified. He is the one who is going to have the seat and this is now how to say, the people are not going to be happy. Let's just say that, yes. So now that we removed or we are transitioning Baba to the AU, now it's going to be a bit more fair. Even it's going to be fair. The issue of AU forces Baba, last weekend, to go and tell people, I'm not going to be able to do anything, I'm going to be able to do anything. That shows that people are feeling on the ground, and then politicians wanted Baba to go and talk to the people. What I believe and what I know, even our politicians, they must also know one thing, how to put it out, every election, when elected, governance, MPs, that's how to put it out. This time round, we'll let Baba get it. How to put it out, how to put it out, it can be you. It's time for Baba also to enjoy. How to put it out, how to put it out. Should he now take this position up in Adiz, who do you think is best fit in another political game of the opposition? Who do you think is best fit to take his place? Automatically it's Kalonso. Why do you feel automatically it's Kalonso? Wrong answer. Why do you feel it's Kalonso? Kalonso because Kalonso has shown ability in different ways. Kalonso has been there all the way. I believe he started his political journey when he was 22, until to date. And he has the history of the country. He knows he has shown the capability of governing when he was the vice president. And we believe if we stand with him, then we will be in a good direction. The only problem with Kalonso that I have, he doesn't have kiasma, he is not kiasmatic, like Rila. Please, another soft disclaimer guys. I started the show with this. I'm going to continue. I'll be interjecting it as the comments become more passionate. These sentiments do not reflect those of the station kindly. This is this conversation between two people and a moderator who have opinions. Strong ones but are just opinions on the ground. You can't tell me that Kalonso will replace Rila. Maybe you don't know Rila. If you don't know Rila, you don't know me. No, Kalonso can't replace Rila. We'll just reward Kalonso based on the lawyer list. He's been with us. Sometimes we just reward your son because he has a son, he has a wife, he has a son, blah, blah, blah. That's what we are going to do for Kalonso. See, Kalonso is going to replace Rila and Rila. Kalonso to replace Rila. Those are two different people. Even me, I might end up voting for Kalonso. Not because Kalonso will win. But sometimes you just reward people. Kalonso might win my brother. Why do you think that Kalonso cannot win? If we give him a chance to vie for this seat in this country, Kalonso might win. And I'm using quote my words, he might win. Val, I want to tell you and mark this. Kalonso can't win the presidency. I may be, I'll end up voting for him because I just want to sort of feel like this man, he's been our man, he's been with us. Why do you believe that Kalonso cannot win? He's been sacrificing because of our guy. So I was feeling also it's an honorable thing for Rila also to endorse Kalonso. Just, you know, sometimes to Nassimanga, Narekesham Kono, Nassimanga to, ah, who am I? Who am I? To me, Fortnay has so many battles. At a come to Darwin, I may sacrifice something because of me, right? You add up, maybe Kalonso has a government today. But I may sacrifice because of Rila. But the power, the financial muscles, the energy that is required to compete against the current president, I don't see them in Kalonso. Now, now about the financial muscles. Let's look at this. For you to get the financial muscles, you must have friends. Kalonso has friends. Then these friends can mobilize each and everyone so that they can form something like Arambé. And then from that, we will get the finances to funds there, the campaigns of this person. So you are a friend to Kalonso. Number two. You will donate 1,000 to go and fund the campaign, bro. Even citizens can donate. Even we citizens can donate. We've seen it in this country. Presidential campaign doesn't require 227 Bob. No, we are not saying that I myself. That one, you are so personal. We are not saying that I myself, I donate, but I believe that Kalonso has people. When we talk about the people that will vote for Kalonso, I'm counting myself, right? When you want to talk about the financial support, talk about yourself. Yes, I give my own. That's why I'm advising you. That's why I'm advising you. That's why I'm advising you. If you have your 110, you can donate 10 Bob. No. But this is the reality. Let's not just have a discussion for the sake of having a discussion. Let's tell people the truth. I'll request my people to support Kalonso because of just a simple fact. He's been helping us. Yeah. Why do you support Kalonso? I'm not campaigning for him, but that's my opinion. I like that. I don't think that you, somebody that you know that will not win. That's the question. That's the question. You will translate. Kalonso is not our there. Kalonso is not our there. Just a minute. Kalonso is not our there. Kalonso is not our there. Which means we will not be there. So which means high time also. Since we are to side here. The thing is Kalonso is not our there. The meaning of the term there, it means you are on. Perhaps it has not been our own. Now when you talk about the laws, the rules are not ours. So Kalonso is not our there. I think O'Ketch is not getting what I'm saying. I'm not saying that Kalonso is there. I'm saying that Kalonso is not our there. He sacrificed some mission in 2017. He joined Jubilee government maybe he collared with foreign affairs and such even in 20 2002, he also sacrificed something for us so as much as how is it I'm feeling inside time no I like the way all your arguments are not including anything I've not heard the word manifesto we're not waiting for the debates that usually come so that they can prove themselves nothing I'm not taking anything I'm just saying financial and the mobilization well manifesto is a paper manifesto is a paper I myself have been in the institutional politics in the universities politics I know very well that Manifesto is a paper when come to reality you will find that nothing out of all 100 plus things that somebody mentioned nothing value in this country where are they? I don't want to blame the current government to discuss their manifesto let's begin with TNA 2013 manifesto manifesto is just a paper to seduce people like when you are with a man and he is wearing a suit he is wearing a suit for that impression when you are with a man and he is wearing a suit he is behind the scenes so just like manifesto then the debates also the stories are jabber I will do this I will do this the stories are the same the forests are different yes since I am with a Hassler nation who is the monkey in this analogy is it me? it's the politicians and then the parties are different in the next election maybe you will not have a different political party but the monkeys are the same so there is no new game there is no new game there is no game until 2013 until 2017 it's the same game we are going to have in the same game this guy was telling me at the time he said it's a handshake it's a handshake it's a handshake even in 2027 and mark this it's the same thing happening my problem is there is a man who is the monkey he is the young lady who is the monkey who is the monkey who is the monkey that's my concern how is that person feeling maybe you are the one who is the monkey who is the monkey how are those people feeling that's why I ask my father I will not go I will not go because by the end of the day by the end of the day is you not them you are blaming and for the people who are affected with the same issue because if you say that of which I agree that there are these individuals who are affected with the Mandamano and now the main the person who brought all these Mandamano is that Raylan looked at the situation of the nation and he said that it's well the government is going to a wrong direction we need to go in this path now because of that Mandamano came in now with the Mandamano some people were affected because of the brutality from the police the largest population were from Nairobi now do you blame Raylan because he is the one he is the voice that came out that we need to do this so that we can trigger this government do you think that for now the economy is better off now the economy is not better off but there are some regularities that's what I wanted there are some regularities that the government has done and you can see them there are some regularities come to housing levy we are still fighting so bro I want to repeat these people are there for their interest before you sacrifice your time and your life for any politician me I support politicians I work with them I spend my time with them even yesterday I spent almost half of my day with them they are there for their self interest and they are there for their interests as much as we want to change you do not answer my question I answered your question by asking your question do you think that the economy now is better off after the picket I agree the same government the trailer was telling us housing levy new health regulation do you think it's the same government that is going to propose him at the aisle very interesting question but let me make step you a little bit we discussed his honourable as maybe the most viable person but have you thought of Martha Karua or they were together as a unit so allow me allow me to so you want me now to vote for Martha who didn't win even in her own polling station her own polling station in her constituency who convinced her to work or to work she doesn't even have an MCA an MCA in her constituency in her ward you want me now to start convincing my people even in her own polling station let's talk about it again let's discuss then if you can't win even in your own polling station Martha Karua does that make her less qualified though in politics is about popularity and numbers if I want to bring my Val as my running mate I will give her 1 million votes I will give her 300,000 thousand votes I will win Martha Karua her own ward in the MCA this is what happened I was having an interesting conversation about one of the lawyers who represented a case in 2017 and I was at the court he asked the current governor of Miguori who defeated Obado please read the votes you got in your own polling station against the votes Obado got then it was like Obado and Mishinda how do you want to convince the court to convince your own clan members to vote for you and convince the other people's clan members it was easy even Jesus Christ was rejected maybe because of that because your people should fail Jesus Christ was rejected but they say a prophet is never accepted that's a prophet but our politicians are like show us where Martha won wow numbers never lie so Martha is out of the picture we should not even talk about Martha's but it's not because she's a woman no because of numbers thank you for emphasizing that Martha is a good lady in this country she's strong she has really served this nation she has really served this nation very brilliant lawyer but now in terms of numbers when it comes to politics we don't look at service we look at numbers winning so politicians and social media influence are the same thing yes wow because we are looking at the numbers if you are in tiktok today and you don't have a good number you will not earn any money from tiktok you will be a viewer let me tell you something and this is just practical I've represented so many politicians politicians want numbers today if you go to any negotiation table with politicians after winning an elective post we'll tell him at my backyard my stronghold I delivered if I am we agreed I'm going to deliver today Martha is she's mouthless because she delivered nothing she could be the one shouting the loudest she's out of the picture joking what did you leave she delivered 200,000 votes I gave her 400 I gave her 400 that's the story that's how it is so how do you feel that the current deputy president who's excellency how do you feel he's playing with all these dynamics that's invisible handshake and do you feel like he feels threatened by others because it wasn't one of the capers today I think the regati is a lucky kid let me tell you something sometimes you must accept the fact from an MP to a powerful deputy president it has never happened it's a process so he's a lucky man I'm a god I'm a fan I'm a fan let me tell you something and it's not personal it's about Rigi he's our guy sometimes you must sit down as a Christian and then you're like he's lucky but again now he must go back to the drawing board and sit down the leaders from Mount Kenya because they have numbers and in politics there are numbers and negotiations he can deliver numbers to anyone today if he feels threatened and they help the unit they mount Kenya unity they can decide okay Mr President you don't want to listen to us we are migrating to Kalonzo today if Mount Kenya all of them can vote for Kalonzo the story can change because even this election the excellency just throwing it with 200 300,000 votes so anything can happen today if we go to election and factors remain constant and Rigi decided to support any anyone else and deliver only 3,000 votes 300,000 votes only from Mount Kenya the story will change so as much as people are saying oh Rigi Jame isha blah blah blah I think we should get our facts I agree I agree with you but I want to say that Rigi Jame should not be a deputy president for Mount Kenya only he should be a deputy president for the country we have seen what Rigi Jame is doing he is more of Mount Kenya than being a deputy president of this nation look at the activities of Rigi Jame and look at the way he always talk when he want to deliver any information especially to the opposition he always refer to his people in Mount Kenya we have a deputy president who is sidelining other parts of the country rather than bringing us together it's a very heavy allegation remember these views do not reflect those of the station I disagree with Rigi I've been in politics and I must emphasize on that in politics you must reward your people for them to vote for you again sorry Rigi is just right at some extent Val don't expect me today to make a campaign then after winning now if you want to eat the most if you want to eat the most let's be realistic and then if you get an extolation I'll come back to you and then you can be a val it's time again for you to vote for me in politics you must reward the loyalist even the president I don't see the mistake there did you expect president now that you can I'm sorry I'm working in the Ministry of Defense that one is not possible that one is not possible because of loyalty if it could have been being the president today we could have been talking about something different because of the people who were with him and that's why today you can see somebody like the minister for gender being given a position rather than sifuna because of loyalty and standing strong you remember what that minister did during the time when he was an MP when she was an MP you understand very well that we as a nation serve the development regardless of any side of political way of life that's one I agree but Rigi ji going back to his people who were at the high school I don't see the mistake Rigi ji was at the village Christmas because you know development is different and the people who were at the church who were at the harambe development is very very different in my own analysis the president when I was a child and I was in development any time I went to visit I went to visit the people we didn't support him he's not doing us favor because we are also taxpayers but this political reality also we must accept this political reality and these national rights are citizen rights development is our right but we have the political reality also attached to our rights gentlemen I think we have to wind this up although I was hoping to talk about the troops being deployed to Haiti or the idea or the possibility but you need to talk one time no but this is something we must discuss about the security we must discuss about the first of all we went to the high court I don't support it totally we have insecurity in Kenya we helped just an MCA just the other day during the day we helped the issues still at Baringo we have so many insecurity incidents in Kenya we are not safe even we ourselves but we can afford to send a thousand I don't support it let's deal with our things first before we sort others beyond our ability we are not in that level let's deal with our own issues first if you are in a house with a wife and you cannot control your wife but you want to control other people outside it will be more much difficult you will find yourself in a very difficult situation whereby your wife and the people who are so close associate to her expose the reality let's deal with our own issues first let's deal with our own issues first let's deal with our own insecurity we still have so many cases of insecurity we still have so many cases of clustering to deal with even we don't have enough I think our PSCS should focus on ensuring that the Kenyans are safe I think we don't even have enough security officers need more security officers we need just a conducive environment for all before we deploy our police officers for the country but in addition what I saw happen to KMPDU that one is not good our officers also should come with a proper mechanism we don't call them rioters picketers they should also learn what they did to their leader as much as we support them we have so many good officers some of them are my good friends they are doing a wonderful job outside here where they command their job but again they should have a mechanism how to deal with such things it was not good at all it was not good at all they are even threatening to go and strike now yes, it was a peaceful demonstration the next day the officers will have their problems and they will want us to help them picket and demonstrate how we will help them how we will help them the officers should know that we are all human beings and we need a support from each other protect me while I demonstrate and I ensure that I don't affect the environment or affect the things that surround me my main aim is I protest so that my voice can be heard even for me, I condemn the video that was circulating on which the other guy from the car he hit the police officer their traffic police officer that's not the right way of handling things because come when in Kubu we pick up police officer what about the young person we will be like this the way we should deal deal with these people that's not the right way to deal with police officer yes, we must also respect them we must also learn to listen to them they should also learn to listen to us so many police officers don't want to listen to me I'm like, bro, I'm also a human being they are like, we are 22 and we are barely you know your rights okay hashtag is why the boy named now before we draw this to a close, I have a couple of minutes left they are having a conversation towards the end of the show that's in a few minutes led by Brian Sacko 101 and I want to ask you because I think maybe perhaps you'll have something to say if you don't, it's okay too so the question is, men against TBV or no one can fight he, Ibu, you are femicide your thoughts the thing is a wide topic give me a sentence because we have to go but it's a wide topic the thing, they should speak it out sometimes it's very difficult I'm like, okay, I'm a pig I'm like, bro I'm a pig the other day, and this is a very serious topic the other day this teacher from Meruwe who committed suicide and it was because of this issue and blah blah blah and in his statement he shared with a couple of people and there was no one willing to help him that's the same thing that we men we go through sometimes you have so many difficulties TBV, it's not all about the psychological torture you are being denied your rights in quotes you are being denied your rights sometimes men go through a lot and sharing is difficult sharing sometimes is difficult I think we should have a center we should have specific centers where women also can't go and air our problems in a safe space yes, we must have a safe space but also to air because sometimes it's very difficult to share with your best friend then the next day it's a conversation you are being denied your rights no, we are being denied we are being denied and the other day we have such likes I don't know if it's true what are your thoughts in a sentence please let's air it out let's give our voice out you cannot be helped unless you give out the information on the kind of problems that you are having so the most important thing that women we should do in our family or in any area that we we are being denied to be denied that one will help us and the most important thing is ensure that you look at the person who is denied to be denied I believe that there are people who are ready and willing to listen to one another and you know them in your circle of friendship so men should look for that person you share up with information with him or her and then he can bring in a solution there's something there's something there's something that's one of my best friends just the other day he told me Joe we as men we are having a problem we text 10 of your male friends to help you to send you 1000 Bob and also tell your wife also to text the same 10 male friends to send 1000 Bob 6 or 9 will send your wife and none will send you the greatest also men enemy is women the greatest enemy to our fellow men so we also we should also change and learn to listen and help our brothers we should not be just helping the other gender and we don't want to help our brothers our brothers are commuting suicide if you check the suicidal rate is high in men in young men because we don't listen to our brother let's try and spread a smile just a day or a week make sure you spread a smile make sure you give a shoulder for someone to lean on thank you very much I am afraid now we must truly conclude thank you so very much for allowing me to host you thus far I am about to release you into the capable hands of Brian Sacco 101 for the conversation for the gentlemen although I have had my own gentlemen all set today I am very appreciative thank you gentlemen for coming to the topic I understand politics is you wake up one day it's different there's never a dull day in Kenya there's never a dull day in Kenya so thank you once again remember to interact with us at Y24 Facebook Y24 channel on X Y24 underscore channel on the gram so on and so forth my name is Valentine or at color me Val I will see you and I see you