 So we're going for round two. Yeah, we had the most amazing conversation It was great, and you didn't get to hear it Yeah, we forgot to turn the microphone on so it's really too bad you all missed that it was really good So but do over. Oh man. Yeah, right exactly So we just got done with a group coaching call. Yeah, and and So we had this is a question that comes up a lot and it came up in the group coaching call it comes up with with us with With lessons and clinics and everything and one of the questions we hear a lot about is is this the right horse for me? People buy a horse and they wonder if it's the right horse for them They might have like second they might have like second guesses about about the horse and if the horse is if I get there we go um so anyway, they wonder if it's the right horse for them and You know, it's it's funny because just like everything else with horses the answer is it depends It really depends and it really depends on on us does and so here's the first thing Are you are you willing to to learn? Are you willing to first of all observe? Yeah, because so much the time Yeah, oh, yeah, true. Yeah, because there can be it. It's hard when they have an attachment with the with the animal or within That's a really good point because I do hear people say that a lot. They'll say well I love this horse. Yeah, and then I'll ask okay, so are you willing to take the time that takes to work on yourself and And then are you willing to take the time that it takes to work with your horse? And can you remove deadlines? Yeah, so important. So if it's a horse show, maybe you can't get there That's hard for people or if it's a trail ride and your friends are all going and you go every year with them It's annual trail ride Maybe it's not the horse for you to go, right? So you have to be willing to do things like that But first of all observation and so expanding your power of observation because so much the time people aren't even noticing What the horse is saying right and what's shaping up around them, right? So yeah, your horse has an opinion on the subject and your horse can give you a ton of feedback as to where you need to improve and and be better in the relationship exactly and And you know, it might be you need to bring more confidence to the table or it might be You're insignificant to your horse. Yeah, that your horse just doesn't really think that much of you because maybe we're boring Or maybe we're just not that interesting compared to his friends And so we're just not that important at that for your horse Your horse doesn't key in on us and give us their attention and give us their awareness, right? Or maybe you're coming to the relationship and you want X Y and Z But your horse actually wants, right? I don't know A B and C It wants something completely different What you want, right and but then what you can do is in order to get what you need Sometimes you have to give a little and you need to you need to find out what things are your is your horse interested in and bring Those into his environment and use those to experiment and explore and add new learning experiences And then from there you can launch those and redirect them and take them to where you want to be going, right? Observe remember compare. Yeah, and and things can shape up and so now what about working on ourselves away from the horse So balance flexibility strength. Yeah, these are things that we can do on our own easily, right and People always say I'll say oh Your back is a bit hollow, you know right now our position your back is a bit hollow. Yeah, my back It's a little weaker. Well, it's like well, let's work on that strengthen your back But do some work off of the horse or maybe a rider has a hard time getting their leg under them because their hips are Sight right and they need to work on stretching, right? Very easy to do something you can do off of the horse, right? Yeah, but riding is very very much a physical activity. It's a sport and You need to view it as such and cross training is super important and that goes, you know when you're training It incorporates flexibility balance skill Coordination reflexes like all of these things and you need to do it through cross training You need to do it through bringing in other activities into your own life So then you can show up to the table with your horse and you can bring those things into into that and actually be confident Because most of the time it's a lack of confidence and we always talk about the horse being insecure, but what about the human? most people aren't that confident when they're with their horse, right and well work on some something off of the horse hiking cycling Yeah, go go rock climb indoor rock climbing I go, you know do some things at the gym. You're not you're not comfortable with if you know that you need like some work with your Coordination, yeah, work on it away from the horse learn to juggle. Yeah, learn it I don't yeah learn a juggle, you know, that's something that can be done But yeah work on it because the time to work on your confidence is not with the horse That's nervous or with a horse. That's young or insecure Because then it isn't the right horse at least in the moment So go work on yourself away from the horse do some things that'll make you more confident get out of your elements Yeah, I mean if somebody is nervous about people go talk to people go do some speaking Right be able to deal with it when you're nervous deal with that arrange your butterflies But you can practice all this away from the horse and then something really important is Ride a horse that knows what you would like to do So if you have a horse that's off the track and it bucks at the canner or something funny like that Don't learn to canner on that horse. Yeah, because it's not gonna work out very well in the poor horse But go ahead and ride a school horse go ride a horse that lopes You know I almost anybody could sit a little horse that lopes and and learn the canner on a proper horse So you learn them feel of a movement. Yeah, because that is priceless when you know what a movement feel like Yeah, yeah, and feel it feel is so important because when you're working with and riding horses It is primarily a feel thing the conversation the flow the just the way you work with your horse it's all this this feel and When you're riding there is still all the aspects of theory of Understanding of the mechanics like there's so many pieces to the puzzle that aren't feel But you can't be learning those on the horse You need to you need to separate that piece out and you need to like in the fair You need to be watching the videos taking notes writing things down Making yourself aware so that you have this larger toolbox You've got instead of just a hammer to fix every problem Yeah, you've got a wide array of tools that you can bring to the table And it makes it so much easier than that when you're with your horse to be able to ride through feel Because you're not having to think about everything all the time because you've already done your homework in that department So that's another piece where you can work on yourself exactly away from the horse Yeah, and I do kind of think about that with people that so much the time they're working with their horse And they're so analytical did I do this right? Did my tip was that what you wanted was my horse was that enough was that good? Did I just let the horse settle up they ask all these questions am I holding the rope right? But when you're doing that you're in analytical mode You're not in feel mode horses feel their way through a situation so when you're backing you need to feel when when when it comes through and they understand and And so something like the fair and other videos that we're doing When you're at home or on your phone or away from your horse also another thing to do on your own then work on the Philosophy work on the understanding of that and maybe a little plan a little game plan Yeah, and and you can do this away from the horse So when you're with your horse you can give them what he needs or in the moment Yeah, yeah and support what you want to have happen through feel So right that that's these are all things we can do away from the horse Right when we then you know are with our horse when we come back Yeah, well now obtainable goals that we can reach That set set it up for success work on things that your horse will walk away from and you'll walk away from and saying that was successful that was great and You feel you leave the barn driving home You're feeling good when you go to catch your horse the next time maybe they'll come catch you See that you're you're both feeling like a winner and these experiences bill bill bill bill bill positive experiences a 100 positive experiences, maybe you felt you're doing something little, you know But you had a hundred of these experiences that adds up to be something real Couple times with your horse spooking or or be nervous with you or whatever Think about what that does when you're not there to support what you want to have happen, right? So don't go in over your head with your horse, right? I just want to say hi to Bridget. I'm from Green Bay. Oh We've got humble to schedule Yeah, so hope the weather's nice up there, too. It's nice down here now. Yeah right now. We're right. We're both freezing which is Right. So over time we'll build on these experiences and see where you're at with that horse then and Maybe you find the horse works out for you because you took away these pressures You took away the time you took away the peer pressure You took you took away This deadline of having to I've got to get this done and all of a sudden you're back to hey I'm doing well with my horse, right? Yeah. Now. You don't even have that question exactly It's clear that you and your horse are a good fit, right? So now what about I'm sorry No, what about indicators that it's not the right horse for you. Yeah, that's a decision we make Yeah, and I can be a hard one right, but it can be something that we We are actually making the better decision not only for ourselves, but for our horses, right? Because sometimes we aren't bringing to the table what our horse needs, right? And if you cannot give your horse what he needs, he's not going to be able to give you what he needs whether that be time confidence Right skill and there's there's a lot of pieces that are part of that puzzle and And that's that's okay. It's your responsibility to find your horse a good home, right? And to make sure that he continues to have a good home. I'm a firm believer in that But you need to also be able to give yourself permission And I think people are looking for that sometimes they want to have permission To know that it's okay that their horse and themselves are not a good fit a good fit and and a great Indicator of this is you feel like you just plain and simple don't have enough time for your horse Yeah, for that particular horse. It's just it's too much preparation. It takes so much Ground school before you mount by the time you mount you don't have enough time or That say you You're very goal-orientated and this horse some days you can't do what you thought you wanted to work on And so you feel like you're kind of you just don't have enough time to obtain your goals with that with that horse That is something that is very common, right? People that show horses They can that's easier for them to let go of a horse because they can say well I want to be at this level, but this horse is at this level and Then they move up and it's easy It's easier for them because they've got this indicator that says physically this horse. Maybe isn't what they Right. Yeah, or maybe the horse is really hot and they want to go to summer shows and this and the trainer Just you know So all of a sudden the trainer says this horse is maybe too much for you They make up their mind right for those of us that don't show We don't have that pressure, but we still have time because we only have so much of it, right? So another indicator would be is that horse just not maybe sound enough for what you want to do. Yeah And so maybe you want to do a lot of trail riding, but that horse can you know can't handle that or what whatever and So then that would be an indicator and you'd say, you know, it'd be probably better to find somebody That's that's more suited for for this horse, you know, physically, right? So yeah, maybe you find somebody. That's an amazing Person at body work and they just love to spend time on the ground and and you know work through the horses Pinpoints help with fashion release. Those sorts of things There are people that absolutely love that that would would take such good care of a horse that had these, you know Physical limitations that maybe weren't suited to you and your riding discipline of choice or riding style of choice So there's there's a lot of opportunities that That can come about for the horse Right what when if you make a decision that the horse is not the correct fit for you, right? And then I think the last indicator at least that comes to mind for me is if you have this very elevated level of anxiety now I have a lot of people that are anxious actually I mean most people are anxious and even when people say they're not anxious. They are I mean, I am yeah, you know, right? Yeah, but I have to try to bring it together I have to try to arrange, you know arrange my butterflies and get everything in the right place And I'll kind of get this done. Yeah, so if you have this super high level of anxiety with this horse, you know All the time and you don't with other horses That's a good indicator. Yeah So now you need to come up with a plan you can make it work But maybe you decide it's more time than I'm willing to spend or whatever Or maybe I'm too nervous for this horse my horse would be better off with somebody that's not so nervous, right? So that is something you have to figure out now if you're nervous around all horses If you say well, I have anxiety cannering this horse But you have anxiety cannering lesson horses, and maybe it's you Right, and maybe you know that that's not a good indicator then but right um, yeah And then maybe you don't necessarily work on those things with the horse that you have But maybe you go and you take lessons and you can you work on things and that the whole off the horse thing Right, you know just get out of your comfort zone everywhere in life and learn how to How to have little successes for yourself where you get uncomfortable It's a tough situation, but you're able to work through it and you start to feel okay like and build that confidence up Yep, yeah, definitely if you if you're super insecure and your horse is super insecure Well start with yourself on that one and yeah, yeah and go from there. It can be done Hello from Ireland and if you're high if you're willing to spend the time I mean I can help people if they're willing to spend the time but They say that people say they are right, but now get it done and and do right and do it Right, so I hope and horses feel that right, you know they they do they do and they also feel when you're incongruent They're really aware when you are trying to be stoic and like not nervous and pretend On the outside on the outside, but on the inside you're just like this wreck and that does not work out very well at all No, not at all. They obviously and everybody says a horse knows when you're nervous and it's not just physical, right? Yeah, they pick up on all that so and then you're not trustworthy If you're pretending to be one thing when you're really something else and your horse is pick up on that too Right, we have a great presentation in the next upcoming fear from Jane Pike that Gets into this and she does a beautiful job of explaining it I can't wait till you get to see that presentation because it's it's a good one. It's good. It's super. Yeah. Yeah, and so Maybe we want to talk about our new course and how that ties into yeah, so we're we're trying to what we're finding through the fair is There's a lot of content and it's all really great valuable content from a variety of people And I think it's so nice to be hearing things Different ways because you never know when it's going to click But I think it also helps to have kind of a cohesive strategy and plan as you're going through like a blueprint So that you're able to Progress in a way that's that's logical and kind of work So we're we're trying to organize the content now in more of a way where it's got a flow from the ground work through the connecting work with your horse through some of the you know, even like the hoof care and and um physical body work environmental, right? Yep, environmental work stuff. Um, so that you've got this planned throughout as you're riding and and You know from ground work to horse care and then riding and then taking it up to the next level and on further And yeah trying to tie it together because how much of the time, you know, you hear people say well my My trainer says to do this and and this is different But when you really break it down, is it different? Is the is the outcome the same might be We all want softness and we want a horse that's responsive. We want a horse that feels for us and looks to us, right? Yep, and and so yes, although there's maybe some different approaches and styles Figure out what what works but but be able to realize that wow, this is more similar than I thought Yeah, yeah, I think there gets to be such a division in the horse world Where you know, I ride dressage or I I do western or I ride quarter horses I ride warm blitz, you know, there's there's these divisions that end up being put out there When in reality when you're talking about good horsemen and women that really care about the horse There are far more similarities Than differences and you're going to find that they're going to explain things in ways That are different yet really compliment one another if you're willing to listen And and open up and see what they have to say and I think that's the really exciting piece about the fair Yeah, definitely and instead of it being this just overwhelming all this information at your fingertips But where you go we would like to try to like channel and direct organize things for you to have a bit of a plan Because I really want you to be able to apply All of this all this information to your horse. Yeah, yeah, you know to you into your horse. Yeah Yeah, so it's really good and speaking of plans too. So we've got a couple of our presenters that have Courses coming up and I'll be letting you know more about them via email when I get more information But speaking of confidence. Yeah, Barbara Schulte has a confidence course coming up That is going to be pretty amazing. It sounds impressive. So I can't wait to share that with you When she gets me the details so you can watch for that and who wouldn't want to be more confident Right. I mean, I think that goes if you say, oh, I'm confident enough I think you're probably lying to yourself. Yeah, because everybody gets nervous And all depends on what like doing this life Right well and even doing a live without sound Yeah, which we did before this one and it was really good But so right, but I mean the thing about this is is there's specialists Yeah, right. I really like the reading the horse and communicating with horses. Yeah in people too You know, yeah, but some people are better at At people and and I hate to say psychology but to the mind of the person Right. Yep. And Barbara's really great because she can she can get through to people and she's got great language and she's calm She's a calm demeanor not quite as up as we sometimes are and maybe I don't know about that But you know what I'm saying that that I think she's calm because she's conveying a nice level of confidence And and so it's a good course. She's put a lot of work into it And we're pretty excited about that but so much of the time people tell me I'm not confident Yeah, and any if you say your horse isn't confident. Well Check yourself first, right? So anyway, I think it'll be a good course. I'm excited about that. Yeah And then the upcoming fair which will be launching in april has 2020 2020 2020 fair. I can't believe we're doing this now. It's our second year Which seems like a bit of a whirlwind. It does Yeah, but we have some awesome new presenters. I cannot wait. I'll be announcing them. Hopefully later this week and Great presentations coming in. I can't wait to share them with you I mean just really a group of people that are Excellent teachers truly care about the horse. They put the horse first and they want to share and right and so I'm I'm looking forward to that. Um, yeah, so marker calendars april 6 and 7th if you don't have a ticket What are you waiting for? I get to because of the horse net and you can Um get your tickets there and I don't have the new presenters page up yet I'm just waiting to get a few more submissions in and then I will have that all up and ready and then Let's see here. Oh, why don't you go into the youtube channel? I was just gonna say we'll release We will be releasing sort of short clips or sometimes we call them snippet videos um on our youtube channel to be good, it's We're trying to get to 1800 subs now, which is great. We're super excited about that and And so the we'll slowly be releasing videos every wednesday And we'll also put different presenters in the mix as well. And so that you get some information that way Um, and so we appreciate you guys watching youtube channel and and subscribing and sharing and yeah What I'd really like to see where they find us At the art of the horsemen show or you could just Art of the horsemen youtube. Yeah. Yeah, and you could and or just type in our names At this point. Yeah, and it should it'll pop up and that's great because we're up there on the search list and then um, you know with with these videos that we're doing You know, we really want comments It's it's people don't want to comment and it maybe that comes back to confidence again or putting out your You know people go, I don't want to write because people might not like what I wrote or Or whatever, but it really helps us out if you do comments and all the youtube stuff that we do It's a lot of work And we really don't get anything other than just we were putting out good information for the horse and for people Um, you know, we like working on it, but it'd be nice to get get a few more comments We're getting some yeah, but get a few more that'd be great. Yeah, give a thumbs up or you know Do what you're comfortable doing exactly or get out of your comfort zone. I'll leave a comment Do that and and then also, you know, if you if you're interested in any other Like videos that you'd like to see or topics, you know, let us know we can work on that We have a lot of video that That we need to work off to work on video after this actually But let us know um, if you have any, you know, certain thing you'd like to see and we might just get it up there for you We might just get it up on the on the youtube channel. Yeah, so that's great. Yeah, so we're having a good time with that Yeah, so did we nail everything on our list? I think we did I think we did so thanks for joining in to our live facebook Yeah, whatever It's it takes a lot to do this because it's just and we don't know what we're really going to talk about I mean, we actually jotted down like here's our Here's our you can't see it, but it's like not a lot. It's like a list of yeah, it doesn't do any good because it's blurry There it is sort of we don't and it's all just what comes to mind I think we've always been that way. Yeah, but we're a bit spontaneous But anyway, we kind of flow along right with our conversation like we do with horses. We're a little Exactly just kind of go with wherever it it goes. Yeah, exactly. We have a plan But then sometimes we veer away from that. Yep, but we come back to it usually try that's good You would try to but anyway, we really appreciate you all Yeah, thank you all for being here and be sure to check out the youtube channel and Yeah, take it from there fair. Yeah, so all right. Thank you