 I'm going to speak for both John Chambers and myself. Both of us firmly believe that we do not want to compete with our partners. And an important set of partners are going to be served by the partners. So we stand up, big clouds, to say, no. That being said, we have to learn. This is now I'm talking for you as the owner. What we have to do is learn. As you probably all know, we own Mosey, which does PC vacuum. And we want to take a guess how many petabytes we have we manage in Mosey. We just went over 75 petabytes. 75 petabytes. So we are managing. That's a much bigger scale than Amazon's management, for instance, just a story. So the reason we did that, by the way, we make no money there, the reason we did that is to learn how to manage petabytes at scale in a cloud department. The lessons that we're passing to are served by the partners, the blueprints. We'll have cloud. We will also provide an application developers cloud to make them for free, developer in our sense of technology. But as terms of getting into what you're talking about, cloud business to make a profit and compete with our service writers will not do that. That is not a heartland. And I know, speaking of John, that is on his plane. But we do need to learn a lot by doing. And that's why we do Mosey. That's why we're going to do the application cloud. When you get petabytes and petabytes, we have well over 1,000 customers that have a petabyte. That's just those that take you to the first 1,000 customers. We have well over 5,000 customers that have a petabyte. Do you know how much your patient think humans can manage that? Or you better, you know, you've got to trust the automation. And that's really where we're going. So these two worlds, so part of what he's saying is true, but it's going to be a different world in the future. And we have to react to that world, not the current world.