 You can now follow me on all my social media platforms to find out who my latest guest will be and don't forget to click the subscribe button and the notifications button so you're notified for when my next podcast goes live. The call's just reversed up and literally just unloaded on us, you get me? Do you nearly get hit? Yeah, I didn't get hit but my brother did. Where did they get shot? It's kind of like in his arse to be honest. Some guys have come running in a pub, some balaclavas and that. A little fight's broken out and then obviously they've chased my cousin up the road and then his dad's followed him and obviously while they're stabbing my little cousin on the road the dad's trying to get him off. They've stabbed him as well so they both was there lying dead and obviously the dad made it and my little cousin didn't. How did Joozy come about saying in your then? Basically after I dropped Pure Coke Volume 1 and I done the fire in the booth I was literally all everyone was talking about at that time so they was looking over here for like an artist to sign and obviously my name was the name that kept coming up. So I went to Jo in 2011 so three months after I signed the deal I got Nick for the attempted murder, I done like eight months on remand. The police chief inspector has messaged the live nation guy saying we don't want him to perform literally so it was just like the last straw, do you get me? So you're going to perform Rita, Ora, Joozy. It was Joozy, they main stage. It's just disheartening, you get Nicked for something you don't do they stop in you there, they stop in your shows constantly then you get Nicked again, then they stop in wireless it's just disheartening, you're out there grafted in a way trying to change your life around them, obviously they're not letting man. Bimber on, today's guest we've got rapper K-Coke, how are you brother? Good to see you. You too man, thank you for having me bro. Yeah thanks for coming on. How's life? Yeah, it's getting there. Your album coming out soon? Yeah, album out next month, February. First in a few years then? Yeah, it's been a minute still. Fascinating story brother. One of the most youngest upcoming rappers in Britain, signed with Jay-Z, mega. Court case, somebody get blasted, you get ripped in for it, kinda changes things. You've worked with some fucking fascinating names, your videos have been viewed over tens of millions of times. You've got one of the biggest videos on Fire in the Booth, nearly hitting 20 million. Talent's there bro. Thank you brother man. You've also had your rocking moments along the way but that's life I guess. As you know brother, I always go back to the start for my guests. Where you grew up and how it all began? Yeah, basically I grew up in Stonebridge, north-west London. Quite a rough estate, proper bad place. Back in the 80s and 90s for sure. And yeah, that's where I grew up. How was your school then? School was alright, I went to Stonebridge school on the estate and me and my brother got kicked out in primary school for fighting early. We had to go to a primary school on the other side of Stonebridge and then yeah, I went to my local secondary school. They were all shit-holes to be honest. Why did you get kicked out the first school for? Fighting, literally, me and my little brother, we used to just beat up people. We had a lot of growing up where we grew up in a black area where we were the only white kids but my dad and my uncles had a reputation on the estate and I had older cousins and older friends. We was always known and like the little fuckers on the estate because you had to back up with a bigger family. Yeah, we was quite bad kids growing up. What's this separate back? Yeah, I'm half Greek, half Irish. Some mixture of that. My brother's actually half Greek, half Scottish. We've got different dads in it. So how was your secondary school? Secondary school was Copeland, Wembley. It was literally five minutes from Stonebridge. How was that? It was still tough. Yeah, it was literally you're going to school with most of the kids from the estate and other estates that literally was going there. Yeah, so when did you start writing songs? When did you start getting a new app? Probably like secondary school for sure. Just playing around. My mum bought us decks when we were kids. We had like the whole estate and the house mixing and that so that kind of brought the music element into my life. I played football before really but that's where the music came from. So you went in to rap very early though because you get signed at age 17? Nah, nah, nah. I started rapping late bro. I got signed at 26. So where did the age 17s happen when you first get charged? When did you shoot that? Nah, the shooting was at that time there. I've been to jail a couple of times. Yeah, when was the first time? The first time I went to jail I was... I think it was like 20, 21. So I've done quite well to be fair compared to everyone else that was around me anyway. So how was the teenage years when you were growing up? Was it tough? I know you've read stories that there's been a lot of people try to shoot. Obviously growing up where I grew up is gangs and post codes and all that kind of stuff and obviously we just grew up in the thick of it. We wouldn't even call it a gang. It's just your friends and families you grew up with, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, it just came with the territory growing up where we came from. Yeah, but I was being shot as well. What is the ticket shot? That was around 2021 as well. I was standing right next to him. I remember we were standing on the side of the road. Obviously we used to deal on that back in the day, do a little bit of this and that. So I followed him over the road to go and hit a cell. So as we're waiting outside for his cell to come down this jags come flying down the road, isn't it? And what is hit the speed bump at the bottom of the road, like boom. So me and him looked at each other like, oh, he's pissed. So we're not thinking nothing. So obviously we're just there, but the cars just reversed up and literally just unloaded on us. The car was like, I don't know, from like that wall to that wall. And there was just like a car in between us, maybe. Did you nearly get hit? Yeah, I didn't get hit, but my brother did. Where did they get shot? Kind of like in his arse, to be honest. Did that make you angry or did it make you reevaluate your life at that time? I think that was probably made me... I was heading down a wrong path around that time already, but I think that literally just times it by 10. Like after my brother got shot, there weren't a time I didn't leave the house without having it with me. Like everywhere I went, I felt like I needed to have it with me all the time. Kind of kill a B killed mentality? Yeah, literally. Your young cousin was killed as well, I believe? Yeah, my little cousin was killed. Luke, he got stabbed to death. No one even knows why. It wasn't even nothing to do with him or meant to be for him, but some guys have come running in a pub, some balaclavas and that. A little fight has broken out. And then obviously they've chased my cousin up the road and then his dad's followed him. And obviously while they're stabbing my little cousin on the road, the dad's trying to get him off. They've stabbed him as well, so they both was there lying dead and obviously the dad made it and my little cousin didn't. Yeah, that obviously affects you though. No, for sure. Do you know what I mean? How old were you when all this was going on? That wasn't even, I don't know, I was quite old by then. By then we're already living that life and seen so much already. So it wasn't, obviously it hurt because it's my little cousin, but it wasn't nothing that we wasn't used to or didn't expect to happen, if you get what I mean. Yeah, so you're saying that becomes an on? Yeah, it's sad that you think that life is normal. That seeing Murders being shot at, but it's just acceptable. For us, it is normal because we don't know no difference. It's only till I get to come out of where I'm from and then you see how other people are living and how they look at these situations then you start to realise it's not normal. When you got to jail, was it 21 the first time you got to jail? Yeah, it was about 21, 22. How long did you do? It was nothing. I done a couple of weeks. I got community service. The police bashed me up, done me for common assault and then I had community service. But where I had community service, it was dangerous for me. So it was like, and I would have had to do it for like a whole year and a half. It was like go to jail for a couple months or go to somewhere where you're not safe and do it for a year. I was just like, fuck it, I'll go to jail. What jail did you go to? Scrubs. When would Scrubs? How was it going in there as a young kid? All my pals are in there. It was like, I know I was going in there for a shit in a shave. Say hello to everyone. See all your bridgards and then leave in it. But a holiday camp? Yeah, literally around that time it was. So when did you start, so you said you started the rap game late on? Yeah, we started, I started rapping like obviously I was, I was more or less known in the streets before I was known for music. And then I think that's probably why music kind of did take off for me in that way because people already knew who I was and the stuff that I was talking about people could certify. So it was that case. But I think we started around 2021, like not long after my brother got shot and we was really going at it. That was the round of times I started to rap because I used to listen to rap. My friends started making music and it was just like a way for me to tell my story. How did Jay-Z come about singing you then? Basically, after I dropped Pure Cult Volume 1 and I'd done The Fire in the Booth I was literally all everyone was talking about at that time. So they was looking over here for like an artist to sign and obviously my name was the name that kept coming up. So how did that affect you then being from a violent background seeing all the misery that you've seen to then signing with one of the biggest record labels on the planet? I guess at the time I didn't feel like it did affect me. I was still living it at that time if you know what I'm saying. So I don't know, I don't know if it did. It probably did affect me to an extent for sure but I just didn't realise or understand what the effects that all of that stuff had on me. How was it with The Fire in the Booth? Did you realise how big that song would be? Nah, I just went in there and had fun literally. I didn't think about it, I didn't prepare the lyrics or I went in there and made him run the beat and just spat whatever I liked. I just had fun in there. And it still gets watched to this day? Yeah, it was a magical moment still. You still got a lot of love for that? Yeah, 100% that's what everybody loves me for. When did the Jay-Z record label drop you? I think that I got dropped in like 2013. So I went to Joe in 2011, so three months after I signed the deal I got Nick for the attempted murder. I'd done like eight months on Remand. While I was on Remand, the guy that signed me to Sony because it was Sony and Rock Nation both came together to do the venture. So the guy that signed me to Sony got fired and then they brought a new MD in and it was just they was clearing everyone off the label. So when I came out I wasn't even sure if I still had the deal or not. But Rock Nation was kind of behind me and they took me back in there and was like if you're not going to keep him, we'll take him somewhere else kind of thing. So obviously that happened, but the police were just on me non-stop. It must be mad though to get such a big deal to then because some days it's football, I get blasted at the train station. Yeah, he wasn't even a real footballer. He was playing football. He was a better footballer. But that situation was literally nothing to do with me. I wasn't even there. Obviously I live on the area and where I live was like two minutes away from where it happened which is why they was trying to place me there and obviously the other people that got nicked for it is people that I know in it. So it just linked you to it anyway. Did that not fucking piss you off though? It was like the worst thing. I've been to jail many times but when you're in jail for something you didn't do it's a whole different ball game and especially when I had all of that stuff going on as well I had so much opportunities. I possibly could have changed my whole life within that eight months that I was sitting down in jail. It was proper frustrating. Again, in the life of crime all the shit that people do get away with it just so happens, somebody gets nipped for it. It doesn't do some kind of balances itself out. For sure. I can't be mad at what it is. When you were in for the remand for seven or eight months were you writing songs then or were you thinking? Nah, I weren't writing at all man. You give up? Nah, not give up but my head's in the case and not just even in the case where the jail I'm in now I'm famous now I'm K-Coke now obviously there's street stuff going on so it's not as comfortable as just sitting down and writing lyrics and being that comfortable on the wing. One day all your mates are on the wing next day everyone that don't like you's on the wing so it just changes isn't it? So you're constantly sleeping with your nikes on or putting them on just before the door opens. How do people treat you? Everywhere I go I get love, everywhere. The only time I had problems was with people I directly had problems with. And I had a problem in there I got into an altercation with someone I ended up getting sliced in my back and stuff. I didn't even know it happened we had a fight and then someone told me afterwards you're bleeding I got patched up in the medical room and they sent me to the block. Obviously when you're thinking there that's a golden ticket to get out to change your life, to make waves and show people that from your area from your background that you can change and you've got talent. But then you're constantly battling with yourself to being a rapper because rap's got that persona of gangster rap he's going to have to live up to that reputation. I came in with that reputation so people constantly they're going to want to test your gangster they get me, they hear things about you people look at you in a certain way so now they want to test your gangster to see if you're really about that so you have to be on your toes all the time. How did the media treat you? At first when I first started doing music coming from where I come from and because of my background there wasn't no love it's only until I started to do the streets and the people put me in the position I was in not nothing else do you understand it was just the love from everybody else is why I got to where I got to and obviously when I got nicked it was everywhere literally and they'll pick the worstest pictures gone fingers here and gang sign there and rapper doing this and that just sling my everywhere yeah literally yeah literally it's difficult when you're trying to make changes but seeing the trauma and the pain that you've seen it is difficult to then it's 50-50 what way you want to go how was it then you came out I'm going to change my life I'm just going to go back to everything was so hectic when I came out I just I wasn't I was still in a place of uncertainty where we weren't sure if the deal was going to carry on where the street stuff still really going on a lot you come back out and you hit the ground running there ain't no time to sit down and think and I didn't really have a lot of time to sit down and think in jail because I'm fighting battles in there too do you know what I'm saying no devil take your side to say look you've got an opportunity here to make a few quid change your life do what you love to do they weren't no blueprint at the time when I came up and I was doing they weren't a blueprint they weren't like follow this way and I'm in new territory this has never happened before in England so I'm literally learning for myself as I go you know what I'm saying what happened then when you got out of jail you started you could drop from your record label so they kept me on for like two years or just under two years things seemed to be going alright I'd done the song with Rita the Maverick Sabre song it was going alright and then I had a birthday party and obviously everyone just come to my birthday party but the police originally heard that I was having a birthday party in this club in Soho and they tried to shut it down but we had a relationship with the owner so obviously he had the last say and he was cool with us to go ahead with it so he let us go ahead anyway whatever's happened there's been an altercation outside my party I'm over across the road in a shop someone's come over and they're like your brother's over there fighting so obviously I've run over to see what's happening because it's only friends and family that's here anyway but as I've got there just as I've got to the altercation a police officer just come out of nowhere telling me to the floor so obviously everyone's kicked off because they're all there for me and they're trying to nick me anyway I've ended up getting out of it everyone's telling me to run so I'm kind of jogging up the road then I'm kind of thinking like why am I even running I haven't done nothing wrong but as I've looked back they've just gassed me and they literally beat the fuck out of me like for ages Soho locked it off vans, helicopters the second time that that's happened to me the police have beat me up and then done me for a sort again so that was like kind of the last straw for the label and stuff it's like they don't know what to do with me everyone's scared to be around me everyone's wary like the police are on me banning every show can't perform anyway I haven't been able to perform in London for over 10 years they'll just say gangs they'll say the word they use all the time intelligence and they threaten promoters if you let them perform or we're going to take your license or we won't police your event they've done all kinds of things they're basically saying intelligence is going to be right it's going to be people by guns you shut it down or else we'll take your business off you so the last straw was literally that fight and then after that the chief inspector of the police messaged live nation because remember when live nation I got booked for wireless so I was supposed to do the rock nation day so it was me, Jay-Z, Rito, Ora we was all supposed to do that day so after that happened because this was like two weeks before wireless my birthday party so after that happened now the police chief inspector has messaged the live nation guy saying we don't want him to perform literally the last straw did you get me so you're going to perform Rito, Ora, Jay-Z it was Jay-Z day main stage because the first time I've done wireless I was on the little bandstand stage and I pulled in a crazy crowd everyone came over to see me and then obviously the next time round they've moved me up it's just disheartening you get nicked for something you don't do they stop in you there, they stop in your shows constantly then you get nicked again then they stop in wireless it's just disheartening you're out there grafted in a way trying to change your life around obviously they're not letting man it must be disheartening to be playing in front tens of thousands of people some of the biggest artists 100% does that make you want to quit they did at a time there was a stage where I didn't even like what music came with anymore or fame I just lost love for a little while but I love being creative but I just didn't like the other stuff it comes with you know what I'm saying how was it in the business side of things like being signed with a record label did they tell you what music to release of do you got to an extent obviously if I was 100% no I'm not doing it there's not really much they could do about it but for instance the Rio Aura song I really liked the beat and I didn't like the message but the message didn't relate to me do you get me I'm known to be a gangster rapper I've just come out of prison for all of this stuff I get where they was going with it because they're trying to clean up my image and stuff but the song wasn't me but then when you've got radio you've got the label everyone saying to you is the one this is the song so you're like alright cool do you take the listen well or the fuck you kind of mentality because every rapper I speak to is kind of they're stubborn bastards yeah I am stubborn within my own right for sure but like I don't know I'll still listen to people and take advice where I feel like it's needed because I've seen big tags in Fury one of the biggest boxers on the planet after the biggest was training to listen to one of your songs and my songs are all the time yeah that's sick bro I love that so the ability you've got to then change the game and leave the blueprint for other rappers to come through it's like you get to a certain level but when you're just about to break through again something knocks you down I've had that every time every time I've dropped an album I've been in prison every time I've dropped an album I've been in prison and it just happened with this last one I'm about to release now same situation what was the situation with us basically I've been recording this album in a studio with an engineer the engineer has a girlfriend and it's in this other guy's property so but they're all doing music together I've now come and I'm recording with this engineer halfway finished I've been in there like three months recording it's the engineer pays rent he lives there he sees equipment anyway if comes out that the guy has been fucking the engineer's girlfriend so now the engineer doesn't want nothing to do with the girl and the guy so all of a sudden the guy has locked the studio door and saying that we can't get our stuff and he basically wants money for the stuff so obviously we've gone up there got the stuff and one thing led to another he's ended up getting bashed up on the way out and he's trying to say it was mine and he's snitching basically is that what you're on tag for now yeah literally I've been I've done five months on remand while I was in there I lost my friend he got shot in the head got bail had to put 25 up and get tagging it so obviously I was happy to do that but like it's been like another 14th months and still no sign of trial every time you get an album somebody's murdered and you get the jail I think you better stop releasing albums but just singles or something fucking hell I was talking to that with my brothers the other day I was like you know what bro you see this whole the term iron perfect it's like it's been a little shackle around my legs I can't wait to just get at and just move on to the next stuff any albums have you released I haven't actually I released pure coke volume one, two, three and four one was a mixtape, two was an album three was a mixtape four was like an album this is like my first debut album are you excited for that are you scared? I'm definitely excited I wouldn't say scared I'm like I'm eager to just see what people feel about it but I've literally had this music for over 10 years over a year yeah the name of that album has been over 10 years but this music I've had for like two years now ready to go and then obviously because of the circumstance and the situations I've been going through I haven't been able to release the music so you still got a lot of love on social media and stuff every time you drop something it still pops come on man I literally laid the footprint for the music scene there's no doubt about it on street rap and gangster rap whatever you want to call it in the UK be one of the guys that that started it and laid footsteps for everyone else to follow so how do you change your strategies then to drop an album, keep the head straight don't let the trauma affect you I just keep going bro that's all I can do is keep going isn't it I'm literally back in a space where I love music again like I love creating and for me when I lost that I didn't want to do music no more so because I'm not creative I can't even go into the studio and write or I'm over thinking everything you know what I'm saying it took me a little while to get back in that space to fall back in love with music again for me to be able to have you ever spoke to anybody about the trauma in the past? yeah I've done counselling a couple of times my trauma leads back to when I was a child what happened? nah just like single parent mum was the user at a time found out my dad wasn't my dad when I was like 17-18 just all kinds of stuff I've literally just felt alone for most of my life and because of that I literally have built a defence mechanism where I'm inside myself and I don't let nobody in and I don't let nobody hurt me and that's affected relationships that's affected how how I progress and move forward in life you'll use that pain of the past through violence and also through rap the rap's going to change your life for the better the violence as well is going to change your life for the worse but that's also very before you you'll tend to see that every bad man I know or everybody that's had a life for violence I've got a fucked up past and you tell me your story now I don't know half that shit that's a book, that's a film I'm literally need the success story to complete it literally that's what I'm working on now so you've got so many opportunities there to people who can get a better understanding of your life at a minute, he's fucked up for this reason he's lost family members to murder he's found it all a shit when he's 18 he's in prison but then what happens is you put all that shit in your lyrics you smash out an album, take over the album then you've got opportunities then music has been therapy for me if you listen to my lyrics I talk about pain it's stuff that I'm going through it's stuff that I probably couldn't even sit down and have a conversation with certain people but within music I'm able to express it in a certain way how is the industry when you're flying high and everybody's want a PCA it feels good but I'm at a stage where I know it's not real do you know what I'm saying at those times there where I grew up, not that nobody didn't care about me but no one didn't worry about me or care what I was doing then you get into a stage where everyone's on you so at that time you actually just yeah this is cool I like this getting used though yeah for sure, getting used getting used and all of that were you drinking heavy taking drugs back in the day yeah I've done many things we used to where we grew up with gang banging and we grew up in like a black area majority of the people I got problems with are black boys so as white boys we was able to go to like drum and bass raves to get away from the Farcree we're being there popping pills we used to do that like weekends when we was younger how many times do you think you've been shot at uncountable I've been shot at bear times where I live and grew up you can go and check it out it's normal it's proper normal where I come from does that affect you though I'm paranoid everywhere I go and I don't have to be majority of the time because everybody loves men but because of that I'm still on my toes always I'm still guarded I think you've always got to bone your toes though yeah I have to but I'm like I think like 10 steps ahead all the time like who, when, why before I make any moves and I process everything before I function because I have to but it's not as if you've not got the talent there as well like the talent's there so do you then become not afraid for people but do you become then a potential hazard that I want to work with him but every time I read about him somebody's deader is doing a sentence 100% and people are scared to work with me for sure in terms of the industry and stuff like that and it's been like that since I started and it is still like that to an extent I'm not even that bad but it's just trying to the image and the stuff that comes with everything I'm just now trying to clean it all up and show people that I'm just a normal person that takes time though and you all show people when you start getting results like if you start hitting top 10s and stuff like that then people want to everybody wants to work with numbers you know how the game works the numbers for years for the last 10 years anyway so how do you clean that image up then how do you see the world differently how do you step back from everything you get dragged into like I said I'm getting older now I've been through so much in my life where I've been able to sit down now and assess my life obviously I found love with my misses and stuff which I wasn't even able to which I've fucked up a lot at the time do you get me because of these traumas but with that it's allowed me now to understand why I act and do things the way I do it now I assess myself different and I'm aware of the choices and decisions I make now doing your life is down to yourself what path you want to choose and if you've met the love of your life then what happens is you become more vulnerable instead of having guards up all the time and now your dad's not your dad if you're seeing people get murdered then you're thinking I just need to wrap myself around a bubble and I don't want to fucking let anybody in and I did that for years literally you're changing the way you're seeing life then yeah for sure I've definitely got a way more positive outlook on life now I'm a family man now misses kids and I'm just trying to focus on doing music and getting out of it when do you think you're going to be getting sentenced for your tag or is that going to be getting cut off? I don't know what's happening right now I've been waiting it's been over 12 months 14 months I've been on tag 5 months inside on Mond still no clue what's going to happen yet and your album drops when? my album drops next month at least I'll be out for this one thanks thanks thanks what's the album about? this one because I had it before it's more got the street element in it do you get me and I ain't perfect it originates from coming from the street so it is more got the street elements in it but obviously I've proper grown up now so my music's a little bit different I'm grown with it mature in a bit so you want to get this album out as kind of a closure of the past to flip the chapter? I've flipped the chapter already but musically you're right who do you love to work with? there's loads of people man I'd love to work with Ed Sheeran I like him still what other rappers do you like? I like everyone everyone is doing their stuff who could I say I like gigs I like I like Gets I like Rich these guys they came up in my era so I got a different respect for them but I like the new kids too I like Diggity there's loads of them how is that a very small industry the rap game? it's not as big as America yeah it is small everyone knows everyone to an extent obviously the streets are related to the streets what about the kind of grime stuff from when you see people calling out what label would you say you were in? I'm definitely not grime I wouldn't even put me in a label I make music I'm an artist just do what you want you can't put me in a box any kind of beat any kind of concept emotion what about going forward for the future when this album drops? I've literally got like three and a half albums sitting here now so I'm probably going to let them all go this year music non stop this is what everyone's been complaining about they say I've never been consistent so I'm about to hit them with yeah for sure it is no excuses it's not when he beats up AJ yeah don't affect AJ you know what the swag is right now you get me I definitely think Tyson Fury will win I'm a Tyson Fury fan I just love the backstory of being fucked up on a child in the booze and coming back his story is my story as well the way he's gone down come up that's been my story the way to him the most what do you think your favourite song you've released so far is what you can relate to most my favourite song I think Turn Back featuring Maverick Save is one of my best songs yeah it's heartfelt I still feel it now the fans still feel it now that's one of my best songs how's your circle now friends family I've switched everything up a little bit more now people I grew up with and used to hang around and not really around as much anymore I'm just trying to keep positive people around me man and people that are happy to see me do good and encourage me to do good you know which is hard to find though very hard to find and I think maybe that's another reason why things didn't go so well for me in the beginning I had a lot of bad people around me a lot of negative people around me at the beginning how do you feel are you talking about your past and shit I'm kind of comfortable with it now I'm not ashamed of where I've come from or who I am it's made me who I am today obviously I've been through a lot in it just thinking the songs you can write yeah that's what I'm saying it's real lyrics I'm not ashamed of who I am and where I come from you can't be but the only thing sometimes if there's victims involved that can play in your mind like we've all got pasts we can't change it but what we can do is learn from it 100% and just kick on in 2021 it's just a new year how do you feel with lockdown and shit if you want to play gigs and no fans I've never been able to perform anyway you can't say bro so it's fucking nothing you know no I do I've just get me it's just everything's just the same for me right now are you still getting hassle off the corpus well yeah they've got me right now they've got me right now for something this just shouldn't even be this it shouldn't get me do you think they will ever leave you alone though I'm hoping so I have faith that they will I'm trying to do the right thing I'm doing positive things I'm not really involved in the streets as much as I used to be I'm not really at all anymore so there's no reason for them to still travel me you know what's your daily routine like just now it's terrible man there's nothing really going on in it so yeah I was getting trying to get fit in the gym and stuff obviously all the gyms are closed now so that's gone out the window are you getting more music done though yeah I make music like almost every day bro like I said I've got three and a half albums sitting in there right now do you get me I like in terms of create like I've been crazy in terms of creating right now and I'm excited for everybody to hear what I've got coming up you've got a song trending now on YouTube yeah the Daily Dopey I just released talk to me about that yeah that's like my first drop obviously I've done the coexpiracy song talking about how I felt and what other people felt about the whole COVID situation and other stuff that's going on in the world but this Daily Dopey was like my first like I'm here now this get my ball rolling and it how does that make you feel that you've got a song trending and you've just released yeah nice sick it's good stuff I just always expect more for myself you know what I'm saying whatever the most the biggest same why not you've got to fucking believe in yourself who's in this album I've got Dappie on there I've got Pajie Kakey C-Biz, Wiley Gecko and obviously my lot Big French Skeng, Vendor who's recently passed a lot of people how's Dappie getting on just now yeah that's alright man he's good stuff what about Wiley yeah Wiley's good stuff as well I like Wiley he's always causing shit he's not he's a notter when you see a lot of rappers who have been in the game it's hard for them to maintain though to keep a high standard that's why when I named who I named earlier on I have that level of respect for them because they've been around for as long as me do you know what I'm saying and they're still here and they're still going so you have to take your hat off to that there's a rascals 20 years in the game from when he started off he's kinda made their moves it's difficult like it is easy to make it but it's hard to maintain what's your plans then for the album where do you see it going I just see it killing the place 100% bringing the old school back it's music in it I know good music and you can't deny good music regardless of whatever the situation is and I know I make good music why do you think you've still got a strong fan base then even though you have been inconsistent because your unpredictability I don't know about unpredictability I think the fans relate to me I've always kept it 100 there's no cracks in what I do and what I say and who I am the fans know exactly who I am and what I'm about and I've always kept it 100 and I think that's why they still fuck with me my fans when I first started my fans were like a cult there's hundreds and hundreds of fans with my tattoo all over them I've met people with my face on their legs serious my lyrics all over their body that's been a standard procedure for me when I first started I've always had that kind of strong fan base I've just never been able to cause of the trouble and the stuff I keep going through I've never been able to keep it consistent which is what I plan to do now you matured me age is a number as long as the content is there and it's banging how does that make you feel is that one of the reasons why you want to keep doing what you're doing and try and make changes because of the loyal support that you've had literally bro I could show you my DMs bro I get messages hundreds of fans every day telling me how much I've helped them from even ending their life or getting through hard times just by listening to my music that to me means more than anything that's what keeps me going when I feel like I want to stop a man's like cult please you can't leave us out for those guys they keep man going they keep quitting many times hundreds loads of times I think about it all the time sometimes I've been in situations where I just isn't worth the hassle anymore but obviously my love for music and being creative has kept me here and wanting to do more do you think that's what keeps you saying though keeps you kind of from not being doing a life for in prison is the love for your music for sure music changed my life there's no doubt about it there's people that I know now that I grew up with that have not been able that are still the same way they are when we was kids because they haven't been able to go out and see anything different so all they know is when I grew up I didn't see outside of Stonebridge I didn't and it's only when I found music I was able to go to other places different things to show me that the world is bigger than Stonebridge that kind of saved me how do people from Stonebridge how do they look at you now everyone I grew up with got love and respect for me and vice versa on my brothers regardless and yeah that's it how difficult is it to make changes this year is it still constantly battling yeah 100% yeah every day is a battle man yeah every day is a battle what's the plans for the future after this album I'm just gonna keep dropping albums yeah that's all I'm gonna do and you drop three and a half are they all different yeah they're all different but they're all corking the same right you know what I'm saying I'm distinctive with how I talk my accent my tone the things I talk about the way I talk about it so I always put my stamp on music but you're gonna drop another three month or something yeah probably something like that yeah that's three present sentences come on I'm done with prison now trust me I'm done with prison now that's it how many jewels you've been in not that many I've just been to like the same ones really I've been to Scrubs, Wonnell Chelmsford that's where I just was recently Ford, Decat and I think that's it Scrubs, Wonnell, Chelmsford, Ford I think that's it no the man so no matter what you get done for if it's a breach of the peace applause they'll get remanded yeah I get remanded for everything bro yeah literally is that not a fucking sword head it's horrible it's horrible trust me because I see other people getting it for worse and they're out like how are you like that how's that even possible does anybody inside of us say look man get your shit together yeah all the time like what are you doing here I'm like what are you doing here do you get me but you're not supposed to be in there I'm saying neither are you I'm here in it what can I do it's life what do you do the first day you get out do you think I'm going to get into the music straight away or first day I got out yeah I was just I just wanted to go and see my daughter and my mrs literally I got four how many different mums I thought I was fucking bad mate I thought I was fucking bad mate the one with your heads fucked mate getting into prison for a fucking break out of it I'm telling you yeah it's stress you've got a chance to leave a legacy mate do you know what I mean with the talent that you've got and what you've done for ten years while had been fried if you were to rain it in and screw it up it's scary how far you can go in the game do you know what I mean no matter what you've done the story is there no 100% I believe in myself I know I can I can do whatever I want to do whenever I want to do it I know that I just got a and I have I've got there now I know where I know how to let certain things go now like do you know what I'm saying before where I jump at everything now I'm a little bit more reserved I think about things is things worth it do you know what I'm saying like because I have the choice you make as don't you literally and I know that and I realize that so I don't have no one else to blame for my thoughts how old are you now 36 how old are you I'm 35 still plenty of time I'm not trying to rap for a rival of course mate I just want to kill it right now and I'm in that zone right now where I've I've got it I know I've got it I tear down anyone on their mic right now I'm not confident do you rap battles and shit no I don't do rap battles but if I jump in on a song with someone I'm trying to beat you up on the record yeah because who would you look up to in America how do you feel like Eminem Nas yeah I grew up on Eminem he's like one of my favorite rappers 50 cent Nas those are the guys I grew up on Jadakiss I literally those guys made me one of it look at all their stories and all they're all fucked up you know what I mean 50 cents being shot and he's still killed it I actually read his book last year and it was phenomenal like he took over the rap game as well but now he's into the entertainment industry and he's top of that reason because he's work ethic he's a G at a rate 50 cent highly and the game in that as well always mentioning they've all been shot and they've got the story there but they've obviously got laser focus for maybe two or three years you know what I mean you've got the talent there but it's when you get there I don't know if it's about a self-sabotage kicks into play as well do you know what I mean when you think fuck it and then self destroy it it's possible it probably is self-sabotage to an extent yeah I've been self-sabotaging for years my own worst enemy it's basically anybody that fucks up in life is down to the individual but as you know an album's gonna pop you might think fuck it I'm not doing anything do you know what I mean but the gift is there brother it's just how far you want to take it man I hope this album fucking pops no doubt regardless anyway I'm gonna be killing them with music all year round as people have been getting in touch to show support yeah yeah since I dropped the freestyle everyone's been showing love like mad support a support that people ain't really shown before so it's a good sign isn't it do you know what a song's gonna blow do you feel it yeah I kind of know when I've got one for sure yeah sometimes you don't but sometimes you do innit yeah and I know I've got a couple that's good to go are you gonna go back on the fire in the booth I'm probably gonna do it yeah definitely yeah I was talking to Charlie the other day and he was telling me yeah he's gonna come back so we can get in I know the people have been waiting for that all the time so I'm gonna do it for the fans man I don't see why man it's the perfect time to do it we've got the album out it's all about promotion if you've got a video one that's hitting 20 million viewers that's next level stuff yeah literally I mean it just means there's more pressure on you though to try and yeah I don't think that I'm ever gonna be able to beat that moment that moment was magic it was just it happened I didn't think about it and that's probably why it was like that and I'm not really overthinking if I do it again and I kind of know what I want to do for it it's not like I'm sitting down writing for it I've got stuff that I've done and put together already and I think alright do you know what that might fit that nice and it would be good for me you know so you've got the drive you've got the power just now to try and make the best content you've ever made literally I'm in that now right now I'm in the zone where I'm just gathering content building everything up right I'm thinking about writing the book you know I'm saying the documentary and getting that all going man you've got all that there man and abundance the content's crazy you need the success story standing at the stage at the end feel it pretty fast on please stand behind your head that it's here you've got that you've got it there man I'm rooting for you brother Argenial thank you bro I appreciate that but you're still fucking crazy mate it's like I'm still on tag but you've got an album released you've worked with the biggest names on the planet it's like I don't know if I wouldn't say the coppers I'm not wanting to see so they probably do but they probably get reasons why to come through your door they probably go reasons still why to jail even though I know you sin they probably know so much that you've done in the past they just want you for something I was definitely not an angel growing up and I'm sure everyone knows that and I'm not denying that fact but I genuinely have been trying to turn my life around but we're seeing it hard yeah of course like I said my friend died not too long ago shot in the head it's just all those situations just pull you back to the streets that's when you need to pull through 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% that's what I'm learning and getting a grip of now is how I react and deal with these situations because people might come up to you and say what you're going to do but it's up to you how you let it affect you these are all tests from God man I believe I believe that as well and that's what I'm battling with now isn't it literally that's my biggest battle right now it's learning to say no I've got phillum in tomorrow I'm in the studio nobody cares mate I'm fine doing 5 months, 7 months from the month only once a year is probably your misses do you know what I mean people nobody fucking cares when your album pops all these leeches will pop back out pretending to be your friend again all you need to do is fuck off because it's a lonely journey did you find it lonely when you were rising up and then coming down again I've felt alone for most of my life to be honest obviously I've always had close friends and people around me but going through life I've felt alone in it how are you feeling now I'm feeling good I'm ready fighting about this maybe struggling in their own battles have demons I know young music helps a lot of people what advice would you give for them I'll just keep strong man I'll just keep strong man you've got to persevere in it so what's the date for the album we give it a plug it's going to be late February no set date but late February 100 million percent is there and your social media for people to just come yeah you can follow me on Instagram at CokeUSG Facebook at CokeUSG subscribe to the YouTube channel at K-CokeTV go on man you guys fucking talented would you like to finish up on anything brother nah I can't think of none just look out for the album I ain't perfect and yeah I'm here I'm back in full effect God bless you big love