 I said I don't need this stuff. Just a little bit. It was a few weeks since I talked to you. I'm not going to lie. It's been nice. Hey, Coach talked about, you know, y'all closed last week, and then this week, you know, didn't go out the way you wanted to close. But what is the message to, you know, closing out games, making sure y'all do it, you know, week after week? I think it just goes back to the details. Being able to handle the details in high intensity situations. We all know we didn't play our best football when it came down to it at the end. And we got to play better. I mean, there's some situations where some, you know, some people went out and some people went down. But it's always a next man up mentality. And we have to continue to take that approach and just, you know, get better. Get better in situations that, when you will lose your games. You've been on teams that have closed out and kind of did well. You've been on teams that haven't done that. What's the difference between a team that is able to close out? I mean, you kind of answered that. But what's the difference between a good closing out team and a bad closing out team that can't do it? The details. It's literally, it's the details. Everybody doing their job when it matters the most. Everybody locked in on their job. Everybody has different jobs out there. It's 11 different jobs. But everybody has to do their job at a high level for the defense to work the way that it's supposed to work. So like I said, just everybody has to do their job. And when everybody does their job and you look at the state when we did our job, we make it hard on teams. But when we don't do that, we make it easy on teams. The last few weeks, we haven't talked to you. The last few weeks you've been out of the game things like the third series or fourth series. How do they approach that to you? And what's really going on with that? I mean, I've been in that situation. I've been in a situation where I was at third safety and in New England where Bill, he wanted to get me in there because when you have a young team, you don't want their first rep or their first game live rep being when they didn't get any reps in the game. You gotta build some type of game experience and Hawke is in a great job, all camp. And he's earned the right to play. So we're just trying to find ways to get him in there to build his game experience up so that if there's ever a situation where myself or Eric goes down, we have a guy who has game experience who's not out there for the first time, who's not nervous because nerves do come into play. You get into a game and you think you're just playing special teams and all of a sudden something happens and you're out there as to be a full-time starter. Nerves come in, but when you already had the experience, you already been to it. You already made some plays out there. You already made the calls. You made some tackles. It puts you in a sense of comfort knowing that you can go out there and you can do it at a high level as well. What do you do is you and Hawke out there because we haven't really seen that combination yet except for a few plays that you haven't played. What role did you take? Does your role change or does he kind of slide into where Eric is? It depends. I mean, we can do it right or left. It just kind of depends on the game plan. It depends on the game plan and each week is his own week. The severity of what happened to Isaiah, but seeing him go down after he really kind of found his groove. Was that a difficult thing? I saw there was a bunch of guys all around him when I happened. Yeah, definitely difficult. I mean, because Zay puts in a lot of work. He works hard. He comes here. He's here early. He stays late. He does everything the right way. He's a great teammate. He stays after practice just working on perfecting his craft. And like you said, a guy that's coming into his own getting more comfortable in that nickel roll made a big play for us last week with the force fumble. Made some plays, getting his hands on the ball. It's tough, because that's just kind of what the sport is. As much as you don't want to see it, but guys go down each and every year. And a lot of good players go down. And obviously, he's in a situation where he's trying to show people that he can do this at a high level. So it just, I mean, it sucks. It sucks, because you know what he puts into it. But one thing I know about Zay, he's a fighter. He's going to approach whatever the extent of the injury is the right way. He's going to rehab. And he's going to do everything the right way. And he's going to come back stronger. Well, I think it takes all of us. It's never just on the D line. It's never just on the linebackers. It's on everybody. It's on the complete, the entire defense. We have to be tighter in our pass coverage. The rush lanes have to shrink some more. We can't give the quarterback too many two-way goals, but he can run up the middle. And we just got to be eyes on the quarterback when we're supposed to have eyes on the quarterback. So when he's rushing, I mean, when he breaks through and running, you know, we can have a guy that's there, that's supposed to be there and get him on the ground, not letting him get, you know, 20, 25 yards. Coach said that there were, you know, a couple, you know, the body coming out of the way. I dropped a couple of pass, pass, pass breakups. You know, those are some of the things you all are, you know, looking at in the film study. Oh, without a doubt. I mean, those are, you know, game-changing players. You just think about it. You know, we lost by, what, four? And, you know, if I make the interception grab, that's four points off the boy right there and we're tied 30 to 30. So, you know, that's something that, you know, I look at, you know, and that's something that I pride myself on, you know, been in this league long enough and, you know, made some plays with my hands on the ball. And when I get that opportunity, I usually make it. So that's a point where, like I said, everything, we all work together. It's a team defense. And when your number is called, you have to make that play because all the other 10 guys are counting on you. So we're going to do stuff this week to make sure that when our number is called, we're going to make the play so that we can be the best defense that we can be. When there's a guy like Richie Grant who dropped it high, you were working with him all the time, and then it doesn't play. Yeah. What do you say to him at that point to kind of say, hey listen, what do you just say to him? How do you talk to him? It's a journey, you know? It's a long journey. It's plenty of guys, you know, who started their careers when not being a starter right away. But what are you going to do to progress to when your time comes? You'll be fully prepared for that moment. So I just try to keep talking to him, keep working with him after practice. You know, he sits right behind me in the meet. He's always asking questions. He's a smart, bright kid. And the future is really bright for him. But right now, he's still trying to perfect his role. And the coaches, they all give us roles each and every week. And I just think the faster that he embraces his role, the more responsibilities he will get. So it's just, it's on him, you know? It's on him to keep getting better. It's on him to keep learning. It's on him to keep learning from different situations so he can retain all this information in all these different situations. So when his time comes, he'll be fully prepared. Do you kind of relate your own? Oh, without a doubt. I told him, I was a full-time starter to, you know, my eighth year in the season, you know? I started games and, you know, it was a part-time starter, but it's a journey, you know? And people who look at this as a journey and not just a right now moment, you know, they have long careers because they're always trying to get better. But if you're just looking at the nail, you can kind of get stuck in the nail and then you're not worrying about what the future is gonna hold. Like, you don't wanna be worried about the future, but you wanna know this is a marathon. It's not a sprint. Like, don't always be so fixated where you are right now or worry about where you're headed and what you can do to get to where you wanna be, you know? Okay, in the concept of journey, you almost have to extrapolate that to just entire team in some ways because of where we all are. I think both at the moment and kind of new, like, do you take that in a bigger macro sense? Oh, you have to. And that's, you know, one of the reasons why, you know, Terry and Art, you know, they brung me here for my leadership. And when times get tough, you know, you're gonna run or you're gonna fight. And I have to do everything in my power to make sure that we're there fighting each and every day. Cause it's hard. It's hard to win football games, especially in this league. And the only way that you can win games is you gotta keep from losing. Right now, to be honest, we lost games. Like, you know, so we gotta get better so that we can win games. And you can only get that when the leadership is strong up top, you know? Amongst, you know, obviously the players, but we have to push that message down to the younger players and everybody else where everybody can get on one accord and we can get this thing rolling. What's the best way to make sure that something like yesterday doesn't linger? For guys, especially these two guys. I mean, it starts on Wednesday, you know? We gotta make sure that the energy is right when we come here on Wednesday. Obviously we got a long trip to London, but I mean, we have a great opportunity to go out, you know, face a team that's, you know, they've been fighting at adversity as well. They just gotta win against a, you know, a good team. So they're gonna be feeling good. So, I mean, it's gonna be adversity staring you in the face. I mean, what you gonna do? And the thing is, I just love the leadership of this group. And I know, you know, Matt, Grady, Deion, you know, Red, Jake, you know, Eric, those guys are gonna be ready to go, you know? And we just gotta make sure that our feeling and our emotion is spun throughout the team so that everybody is feeling the same way. And we can get the work that we need and the practice that we need so that we can have a great week of preparation and then go out there and win a football game in London on Sunday. How has that energy been so far on Wednesday? It's been good. It's been good energy. You know, I would never say, you know, we had bad energy out there, but I just think we can take it up a notch and we gotta take it up a notch. I think the urgency has to rise because at the end of the day, everybody keeps saying, you know, we got time, you got time, you got an extra game this year, you know, you got 13 games left, but the more you keep saying, the more you got time, you just holding it off and the time is now. And I'm gonna make sure I do my part as a leader on this football team to make sure that the urgency level is as high as it's ever been here and just try to do everything we can to get a win this week. You watched last night? You know I did. You know I did. It was crazy in there. It was crazy. Good game though. Good game. It was a good game. All right guys. All right, no problem.