 Well, we're back with the breakfast and plus TV Africa. We'll just quickly look at, you know, a conversation around the aviation sector quite interesting and Very very necessary, especially at the time where we're grappling with revenue as the country Well, the federal executive council that's fair can approve the establishment of maintenance repair and overhaul Which is called? MRO Center for Aviation Industry the federal government stated that the center would be first in West Africa And Central Africa as it would be one-stop shop for the overhaul routine maintenance and service of aircraft It would be done through a public private partnership. That's the PPP with master AJW Concertium as the concessionary using the build operate entrance for BOT and PPP model The note that that the center is approved for concession for a period of 30 years and is expected to generate about 185 million dollars within the period I CRC other that approval was given following the insurance of Full business case. That's the FPC compliance certificate by the I CRC to the federal Ministry of Aviation and would be first in West Africa It was set at the establishment of the private sector driven MRO Center was critical for diversification and repositional of the aviation industry as it would also address the demand for aircraft maintenance in Nigeria not just Nigeria like I mentioned West Africa and of course Central Africa now currently my interest is to know that the region Do not have an international standard MRO and therefore urgently requires one to ease business and facilitate growth and Contribute to the gross domestic product You know of the nation and also of the region as well We have this morning joining us a stakeholder. Let me do why your assistant secretary general aviation safety round table Initiative right here in Lagos Let me just get to have you join us happy new year and happy birthday as well Like to share your thoughts, I mean seven years after, you know, this idea has been conceived We're still here. What do you think is responsible for the stalling of the process? The road map had so many things so many there are so many pies on the table and When we have so many pies, you might be very difficult to take which one would be a priority? I think the COVID Issue came up Floating to the dollar was also an issue then and I think also there should be that that's What's that interest? Different interests were involved in that by projector and say the delay again We're here now. We're barely seven six months to the end of this for five months to the end of this 10 year you're coming with this approval of starting Starting from ground zero I don't know It has been approved. I what I don't understand what I'm not sure now is whether the investors will move in before me because knowing the jury and their and their inability to keep two agreements There might be treason and so as well, let's wait for the new government to come in before we begin to true Train them, but what I've noticed is that almost in all the agreement they've made They are signing in the last minute It's government that's bringing out all the money that the investors are holding back and then trying to see what happens after after meeting the first You know according to some reports in different quarters You have rightly stated that the reason for the delays that the government has been very difficult they're region in in terms of the approval and the entire process and also there might also be Conflict of interest. I like you to throw more light on that. Is that the case? I'm looking at I don't think we did it Late this particular project Legality has the lead From coming in there. There are people interested Reports available that have been able to speak to International partners to come in and invest but that we get it you're always going through the minister to sign That that force that the to sign fund for it to be approved what is the process start? That's the problem Now if the minister is interested, yeah, they are interested in his own project. He's just been approved There's no way you can he can sign for other competencies and that's what is holding this country down We said the minister has no business with maintenance maintenance and it is Regulate on the LCA that will look at your application look at your document and so when they are completed and I'm good to go Then that means has an interest in in put you on a place called the PPP that I just been approved How would he approve all that? Amarosa come in and we're holding that stuff down in this country. We would not hold it tenets of is of the business So if I got you clearly you're saying that there's an interest and the interest is that you know The likes of the minister have a business where they are driving from in the whole Instrument is participating in the MRO. So if they let us deal it on their competencies us from coming on board But like it now this is not this has been approved. Maybe they will not they will lose Give some ease and Participation and allow other investors to come in with it. We need more than one And there are different variants of aircraft in the world So we need more than one MRO in the country and we have the capacity to do it This is possible to be money. They want to use their money. So they don't need holding them back All in this approval and then they have to say how they work this out We difference that they are good at different airports and owned by fund on those owned by the state government What you really want is the development innovation industry not in line with what's been with not in line with the road map alone We want the development innovation industry because the the interest of this government is ending is ending in the next five months So we cannot you cannot tie us to the road map alone. We need we need we need that Express themselves we need more investors And we need the industry to contribute to the GDP of the economy and we can only do that We will allow more participation. We will allow more investors and allow The private sector to thrive within the industry Not be regulated and held down by government policy and government participation But let's talk about you know the benefit this actually holds eventually, you know all of the Biocratic process and all of this interest taking away What does this mean for the Nigerian economy and the aviation sector? Well, it's it's a win-win for everybody if it comes if it starts If you can get so get off the ground and we can get more what you have now is that you find that one of our Airlines is save the cost of ferrying aircraft out of the country for repairs and maintenance That cost of flying it out and paying in dollars now You can pay you can pay in Naira. You can save money for Felling the aircraft and paying crew And all this comes in dollar and now the dollar is not even friendly So I think that is In particular Airlines within the sub region and airlines even outside the subject in that Feel that the cost of those that people go to India for medicals We look at the cost of coming to Nigeria looking at the Naira payment and probably Well, if if it is satisfied Satified then they would rather come to Nigeria because of the because of the value of a Naira or the lower cost So you have you tend to attract airlines to to come which bring more revenue to the country again There's what they call it a custom. Maybe people flying over Nigeria to order to another country and if they have issues Why meet the consistent as it has a place to stop because they do there are a few organizations there They can have looking to look at look at the aircraft So it's gonna attract some investment. It's gonna improve improve manpower. It's gonna increase Specialty and that's a remote and once we want to improve specialties a customer power. That means that More people we employ more taxes we pay to the government and I've just been Also increase so it's the women with what I mean, but would you not restrict herself that it was mostly the one By the federal government Well, well now that we're you know getting closer to a transition from a certain another one government to another Do you see the next government being responsible and all of these process not been? You know a case especially when you have said oh The mini-sites of has a hand has an interest and and that's also causing a huge problem So moving forward 2023. Do you see us making progress and having that running? Let me let me make some clarification there. What I said the minister has an interest I am not saying this has an interest in a project that's free. What I'm saying is that why should you miss out? Why is it said that the missile must approve and sign every investment coming in into the industry? But if you want to come in as an MRO investor your your dog would have to go to the minister's table Because I don't say that because it means I suppose is it is presently involved with it You want to just be an approved? Yeah, they'll be strong hindrance and delay in approving even our line order companies also coming to my point is Get to the minister's table for people to invest in the industry. You shouldn't be we need we need to we need to we need to show Express this case of being business that I'm making it a document that is just And everybody works away and that's why that's my point on it I hope I hope the partners in this project will start before the May 31st and again the fears I express It's a case. It's just getting fear even within the same party. We saw when the president of the passenger when he left power When President General came in the past almost all, all the proposition he did So even even if an APC wins the next election There's no guarantee that the incoming president, the incoming president of the Republican and the APC will retain Or to continue with the project. They were not completed. He might have a different perspective towards it He might not even be happy with the process of this Imagine as the only bidder for the project And if you watch almost all Projects that came out from the government Everyone was just a bidder that came in and was approved as a winner So what's then going to be, you know the way forward? I would also like to ask Apart from the fact that you're having this conversation and I know that I've also read, you know Some of your thoughts that's been published by several You know media outlets, but have all the stakeholders in the industry Being very vocal about this issue trying to reach out to the government and those responsible to ensure that This becomes a thing for you know the country because I mean from all that you have said There's a lot of economic potential for us as a people Potential yet Let me tell you something After COVID four ls have come up in Nigeria United Nigeria value jets green Africa and the bomb air after COVID and This is this one industry that everybody thought after COVID you just will be down for the next three four years We have come out with folks airlines owned by Nigerians. They bought the air here. They didn't use it So it shows the tenacity the potentials that are that are bound here when you allow them to express themselves So that's that's one point. I am not saying The one they've just approved by different things because it's not a good thing I'm saying that you are still holding the country down because of government participation Because of government interest, I want people to participate the industry we gain the country we gain would all smile all smile When you want to say I did it I did it and in that process, you don't any other person Don't any other connection does you want you have the one you own To do the one you support to be the one that will print then you're good to hold the country You hold the country down today Unless I just spend the money taking those aircraft out But if we're allowed this we won't over our six. So here's not the first missus even ministers before him I've held down the coming in of an MRO because it was the month Ridiculous of us from the from this investors and they eventually run away this the MRO It's not it's not something that you you spend there on You have to bring on practically almost everything about the ground be offered The gun and maybe the building every other animals coming from outside the country all the equipment and even the stuff would all be trained outside the country So it costs a lot of money to invest and set this thing up and the benefits are there the benefits are there no doubt Because your opponents are open Hmm. Oh, well, so I'm just thinking to myself how how then can you know the government of the day or any other government? You know buy into this we need to cost it down, but I like you to just answer in less than a minute Look, I this this government is done So I hope it's for the next moment to come in I will begin to push this narrative that we will be Interference Intervention and One we do not even need a minister of aviation in the first place we didn't have it as a 2015 It was so it was it was in say what it was in means of Transport and we're happy with that but sometimes in 2019 they removed a vision from mr.. Of course And what is it made an independent ministry? Give it so much for us to the minister to interfere with the covenants and run of these agencies in the industry Okay, so Oh, we have to go now We have to go. Thank you so much. Oh, let me do who now you're for being part of the show We appreciate your time and we can only hope You know that the next government will be aware of this especially those who are politically now We look into this and probably make that you know part of the agenda for the campaign and also What they hope to achieve as they become a government. Thank you so much and we wish you Yes, I hope so too as well. Thank you so much. We have to join the newsroom at nine o'clock For the news brief or Lumido Honayo assistant secretary general aviation safety round table initiative Right here in Vegas and that's the size of our conversation on the breakfast this morning if you missed out on any part of it, it would be great to follow us on Facebook Twitter and Instagram subscribe to our YouTube channel at plus TV Africa plus TV Africa lifestyle My name is messia bobo to have a fantastic one morning by the way