 It is the horsey bull baby, neither team has a winning record, yay, so it's let's ride or let's hide one of the two, my stay golden pony boy breakdown, let her jack it and all the outsiders, it makes sense, bye. On No Sleep, 1K Adams on the Up and Atom show, but I'm excited for this one, we've got Colts Broncos, ours from now in Denver, both teams underwhelming offensively. Jonathan Taylor ruled out for this one, Givante Williams unfortunately done for this season, Melvin Gordon is fumbling, both teams are turning the ball over, penalties up the wazoo for Denver, but somebody's gotta win my preview coming up at first, a very special guest. I see everything that I want in my dreams, and it's game I ain't planned if I am, it's for keeps, I'm too heavy, too heavy, too heavy, too. Those highlights man, there is just nobody like him, six time pro bowler, first team all pro wide receiver, one of my hometown favorites, my dad, it doesn't even speak English is texting me that he's so excited. The Brenna Marshall is joining the show, you can of course see him on I Am Athlete, a media, it's not even a company, it is an experience. Hey, I'm great, I'm in DC, I just finished up some SoulCycle, cleanse my soul, I had a few drinks last night, so I want to get all that toxicity out my body. SoulCycle, thank you so much this morning. So what happens when you roll into a SoulCycle? Do they, I mean, I can't imagine looking over and you're on bike 43. Kay, I swear, I was on bike 43 this morning. Shut up. I swear, I was supposed to be on 51 in the back, but it was the class wasn't full, so I moved up. My favorite number. So we were, I was on 43, she was on 44, phenomenal. Yeah, something's, what's going on here? There's just, it's a Chicago thing, I don't know what it is, but all I know is this, we have week five, looking as dead in the eye, what? Before we move on from that conversation, Kay, I just, I just think like men going in there and doing the whole this thing on the bike and the X. That's a little too much. What do you mean? It's a little too much. Have you ever gone to SoulCycle and you got to do the little dances? Yeah, you got to do this and you got to do this and then you got, you got to do this. And they have you doing like push ups and stuff. And then they're like, and then they have you doing these things with like two, one pound weights and you like, they're pretending that it's hard to do. And you're like, what is this? No offense, SoulCycle. I had to stop. The weights got heavy for me today. Yeah. Are you a bad dancer? You just had to have to dance on the bike. B-Marsh, get with it. Yeah, I know. I know. What's going on in football? What's happening? Do we got to talk football today or can we continue to talk about everything else? We can talk about whatever you want. I mean, I do want to ask you, you know, four weeks in, what's popping out to you? Is there something that's catching your eye? I know you love the Eagles Super Bowl favorites, but what do you want to talk about? Yeah, we talked about this a couple of days ago on another show that I'm on inside the NFL. Just parody in the NFL, right? You know, I think this is the year where, you know, any team, well, I wouldn't say any team. There's still probably about four to six teams. Like, you have no chance, the Texans. You have no chance, Texans. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. There's a couple of Detroit Lions, phenomenal story, but you have no chance, right? So there are a few teams like that. But for the most part, can Jacksonville Jaguars potentially make a run? Philadelphia Eagles, who would have thought the Philadelphia Eagles would be one of the hottest teams of football right now? I know two is down, but I love Teddy Bridgewater. I love me some Teddy Bridgewater. The Dolphins. The Dolphins in this situation right now. So parody in the NFL is what stands out to me through four weeks. It's so true. And then, you know, there's two teams that you want to give hope for. Neither of them have a winning record that are going at it tonight in the Pony Bowl between the Colts and the Broncos. That one, of course, in Denver. I asked you this. Richard Sherman's there on the Amazon broadcast. What happens between he and Russell Wilson? Do they avoid each other because football fields? People think they're huge, but they're not. They're intimate, awkward places or they can be. Well, well, first, before we even get into that, because that's a great, that's a great question. But no, how many teams are sitting at two and two right now? Okay, too many. So yeah, there's a lot of teams. So I still think there's a lot of football left for some of these teams. I know everybody's up on it. That's down on the Denver Broncos and Russell Wilson, but it's going to be a journey, right? There's a lot of football left. You know, we know Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson is the ultimate competitor. It doesn't get more competitive than Russell Wilson. He's also the ultimate pro. So he'll go up to Richard Sherman. He'll say, hey, brother, what's going on? It's all love. Deep down, I know he feels some type of way. Richard Sherman, he'll say hello to Russ. He'll say hello to Russ, but he's going to try to feel Russ out. But if it was me, Kay, like if I'm Russell Wilson, I'll try to throw a ball over my receiver's head and hit Russell, Richard Sherman in the head while he's doing his broadcast. You know when you're warming up and you have the commentators on the side? Yeah. I'll try to hit him. Okay. You'll try to hit him. So maybe he'll Bobby Wagner and maybe he'll go and he'll just tackle him, even though he doesn't have pads on. He's in that Armani suit on the sidelines. Right. I mean, some things are supposed to stay in the locker room. Like you guys want to super bowl together. Okay. I don't care about all the other things. Like you guys battle together. I've been through so much. I'll push each other. You all challenge each other. Don't go out there and say those things. Richard Sherman. I love Richard Sherman. Another competitor, all-time competitor. But at the end of the day, Matt didn't like those statements because you guys want to super bowl together. That's extremely hard. You have guys like myself play 13 years and wish I was in those positions, right? And you cherish those moments, you respect those moments. That's what you're going to think about 20 years from now. And when you're not on Amazon, when Russell Wilson is not a starting quarterback at the Denver Broncos, you guys are going to be getting together in Seattle, reuniting and talking about the glory days. And you don't want that beef in between you guys. You want to be able to come together and brace and say, man, remember what we used to do? And they show your kids. And they will. I'll clean with that guy. They will. Hey, does he, does, you've said this a lot now. This has been all season for you. Does Richard Sherman, what's your relationship like with him? Is he texting you saying, why are you like, why are you even talking about me? There's nothing to do with you or no? No, I mean, for me, Richard and I don't know. Richard and I don't have like a, like that type of bond, but I have hit him up to join the podcast. And he's like, I can't do it right now. You know, because he just started his own podcast. Yeah. And, you know, obviously extremely busy, but he always replies to me, you know, Richard's a nice guy. You know, he's an ultimate pro, but he's a nice guy. You both are too very honest people. You're both unapologetic, you know, like I don't think he'll be upset with me telling him, I don't dig, you know, him going out there and spilling some of the beans. Yeah. You know what, I don't like, you know, you're really inspiring me to keep it all the way real here. I was, I was on my way into work this morning and I thought to myself, what do I want to ask Brandon about? And I looked at the NFL news page, just the NFL.com. And I'm like, what are the big, it's kind of boring right now. Like there aren't crazy storylines. And the one thing that's huge is this Brady situation, but it's not even him on the field. Like he looked good on the field. It is so gross to me, Brandon. How many people out there, fans or pundits or whatever you want to say, are sort of making light of what is going on in his personal life, potentially, which wouldn't really know anything. There are odds out there on who Giselle is going to date next. And there's jokes about Zach Wilson and mom dating and all this stuff. And you know, this is potentially a divorce that we're talking about. What do you think about people dragging them to high heavens right now? It's disgusting. But unfortunately, you know, this is part of life, right? And as far as Brady, the athlete, you know, we all go through things and we have to find a way to continue to move forward. Whether you're a pro athlete or you're, you know, you work in another field, you know, things happen, you know, whether it's financial troubles, it's divorce, it's health issues, you know, we have to find a way every single day to be our best selves and to learn from those mistakes. Obviously, you know, we've kind of put place Tom and Giselle on his pedestal. How many times have we seen them, you know, in these amazing moments and kissing and hugging after? Hopefully it's not that bad and they can, you know, find a way to reconcile and figure it out. But if they have to move on, hell, they have to move on, right? They have to move on. 52% of most marriages end up in divorce. It's a shame, you know, by the end of the day it happens. It happens. Yeah. And he's a public figure, but people, the endless fascination with it and the tearing him down. I don't know if it's just like Brady hate or whatever, but it's divorce we're talking about. So I wish people would shut the F up about it, honestly, until, you know, and focus on what he's doing on the field. And speaking of that, let's talk about a little football here because it's no secret. I want to talk about the Rams because we just saw them on Monday night and now we're kicking off week five. Trap up week four. It was Matthew Stafford not throwing the ball downfield, but whenever he threw the ball, it was straight to Cooper Cup. Only him. It's his favorite target. Everybody knows it. But it's his only option on every single play. Do you know what that reminds me of? Jay Cutler. Here in Jay Cutler. Right. Because clear, I mean, it was great for you personally. We pulled up some of the numbers. It is insane. You are the only player to get more shares, a bigger target share than what Cooper Cup got in a season. That is you, my friend, 2012 from Cutler. And it was awesome. But I got to ask you outside of, you know, numbers for you personally, you weren't all pro that year. You know, and you helped the Bears to the playoffs, which I'm really thankful for, of course. When you look at this Rams team and what's going on, how problematic is it to funnel targets in one guy's direction? Well, let's go back to 2012, right? I think I had 118 catches, 1500 come yards, 12 or 14 touchdowns. It was an awesome year. But Devin Hester was pissed. Okay. Earl Bennett was pissed. Matt Forte was pissed. I promise you, you know, like, and as a receiver, like, of course you want the ball. You want those targets by the end of the day. If it's an uncomfortable place for Cooper Cup, or even when I was in that situation, when you walk into the receiver room and you got guys that's looking at you and maybe, you know, not really digging their place in their position on the team, right? It doesn't feel good to be that guy, right? You want everybody in the locker. You want everybody in that segment room to feel good about their role on the team. It's not a healthy place for the individual, whether it was myself in 2012 or Cooper Cup now. It's not a healthy thing for this team. For me, the best Chicago Bears offense that I was a part of, and it was legendary. We talked about, you know, McCown, Josh McCown, and backups, et cetera, et cetera. But when Josh was there and then Jay split some time, we had Alshon Jeffery, we had Martella Bennett, we had Matt Forte. Matt Forte had a hundred and four catches. Matt Forte went over 1,000 yards rushing. I had over 1,000. Alshon had over 1,000. Martella's had 80. That is a healthy and dangerous offense. To me, that's the best way to play football. And yes, there are sacrifices, but you'll win more, and then the whole environment and the culture of the team in the locker room is unbelievable. What were the conversations like in 2012? Because, you know, to me, Matt Forte is about as, you know, he wouldn't care about not getting looks and touches the way I see him. Or, you know, to hear that Devin Hester's upset is surprising too. Was there a conversation about it? Yeah, so like there was times Devin Hester and I, after, you know, after practice or before practice, right, like trying to figure it out. I remember at the time, it was emotional. We stayed in a receiver room and Devin had tears in his eyes one day, right? It's like, I don't understand why this is not working out at Y receiver. We go through all of off-season and it's Hester and it's myself. He's the Z, I'm the X, and we're lighting it up. And we're thinking that we're both going to go out to have these big years and then we get into the season and Jay felt comfortable only throwing to me, if I'm being honest. And so, like, this is my God, it's my brother. This is the guy that's showing me all around Chicago. I'm at his house every single day playing pool. You know, he's introducing to me people in the community. Yeah. And so I feel the way he feels, right? And so, like, those are my emotional times there. Earl Bennett, Earl Bennett and Jay Cutler, they played together at Vandy, right? Yeah. Their relationships started way before, you know, Jay's and I, as we played and Denver together, drafted together. So you got to think about those dynamics. So it was very... But it's not your fault, Brandon. It's not your fault Jay was looking your way and it's not Cooper Cupp's fault that Stafford only has eyes for him and it's not Calvin Johnson's fault that when Matthew Stafford was in Detroit, he only had eyes for Calvin Johnson either. But if you're Alan Robinson and you're seeing this and you're wanting... You know, Alan Robinson, this is a guy, we know what he can do and what he was able to do physically. This is a guy, 1600 yards, 14 touchdowns, never had that good quarterback now. He gets onto a team that has Super Bowl expectations for really the first time in his entire career and Matthew Stafford's allergic to him. So what advice would you give to Alan Robinson to sort of work his way into Stafford's circle? Great question. Very simple, Kay. And people don't like this and they don't dig it, okay? If I'm Alan Robinson and I can text Coach McVay right now, Stafford, I know him, I respect him, I like Matthew a lot, right? But I'm being honest, okay? If I'm Alan Robinson, I walk... I say, hey, Coach and Mr. Quarterback, come together, huddle up, come tighter. And I say, throw me the damn ball. That's it. That's it. I posted something yesterday. Okay. That's my story. It may still be up there. Okay, I reposted something. I'm going into the huddle and Cal or in calls of play. Navy, Navy. And this is Coach McDaniel's first year. Coach Josh McDaniel's first year as the head coach for the Denver Broncos. And I said, no, no. He's sitting at five. I'm going deep. Throw the ball and he's still... Navy, Navy, no. And then you see the, you know, the replay of it. And I beat the guy. Yeah. And I go to the side. I'm like, I told you. I told you. It was a touchdown. Kind of lost it a little bit. And what I wrote on this was, see, I was a lion and they tried to get me to present myself as a sheep. You can't act like that. Don't communicate that way. No, in between those lines, it's about winning. And it's about going with your gut and seeing and believing in what you're seeing. And in the end of my career, when I started to mature, I started to lose some of that lion. So I would sit, when I was playing for the Giants and even in the Seattle, I would sit back and I would be calm and collected because I didn't want to rock the boat. It's a new environment. I don't know their relationship. I don't know how the quarterback or the head coach can respond here. So if I'm Alan Robinson, I take heed to what I'm saying right now, right? They'll forgive you, but you respectfully go up to them say, I'm Alan Robinson. Don't forget. Go turn on Finn from when I was with the Jacksonville Jaguars. When my time in Chicago, don't get that twisted. Chicago, they didn't know how to use me, but if you still turn on the film, you still see a top flight wide receiver. You guys went out and paid me because you did your diligence. You did your work. You know what I'm capable of doing. So throw me the ball. Throw me the damn ball, you say. Even on the broadcast, I'm listening. They're like, I know Dell will come back and I'm like, Alan Robinson sitting on the bench like, hello, excuse me. So maybe that's the right advice, but it's definitely advice that no one wants to hear. Well, here's the thing too. And I say this because, you know, you got to think about the quarterback and coach McVane. A lot of times when you bring in, you know, these free agents or you draft these guys, it's hard to figure out what they do best, best, right? So it's still a lot of football left. You know, they got to learn Alan Robinson. Like, what does he do best? Is he a jump ball guy? Does he like to run deep digs? Does he like to, is it just throw him a slant? Let him, you know, take it and run. My advice to the Rams is go back and watch film from the Jacksonville Jaguars days and lean into that. Because what I saw back then was a guy that could have easily been a top five wide receiver if he had the right quarterback and he was in the right situation. People are questioning Alan's health, saying he's a little older. But then I'm looking at Matthew Stafford. He hasn't taken a shot downfield once and I'm worried about his elbow and nobody's talking about it. And I am. I'm worried that this is a guy who takes, even if it's not there, he's looking downfield and he hasn't done it once. So I'm a little worried about that. So there's a lot to unpack there. Go ahead. And that's what we don't do enough on these networks. And when we talk ball and we talk sports, right? A lot of times we don't have all the information because what you just said is key. Some of this could be out of, you know, an Alan's hands out of his control or even Matthew Stafford. He's injured, right? Or maybe Alan's not feeling right, you know? So there's a lot of things that we don't know. You should text him and let us know. B March, I want to switch to something a little bit more serious. We, of course, saw the scary situation with Tua, you're a former dolphin. I know you have thoughts on this. And, you know, I know that they're trying to change and amend some of the protocols, which is what they should do because this whole situation just sort of gives us a moment to reset and to revisit what's being done as we all need to do a better job of protecting our players. I think we can all agree with that. Now, years removed. I remember that you admitted to playing through a serious concussion. I think this was back in, like, 2010, early in your career because you had motivations and you wanted to play to what? Looking back, now you're removed and you care about player safety. What do you remember about that situation? Just the feeling of, if I come out this game, I'm not going to get the contract that I'm working towards right now. Like, I literally was in a contract here. And it was actually right here in D.C. playing against, at the time, the Washington Risks. Now, the Washington Commanders. And never forget, it was Tripp's right. We had double underage picks. Selvin Young was supposed to come out the backfield to the left, pick the wheel backer. And it was a trust play. And I was going to come across the middle knowing that this guy was going to be free, but Selvin Young was going to pick him. And I was going to catch it and get right up the numbers. So, anyways, I came across the middle and I believed that Selvin Young was going to pick up the guy and boom. I think the linebacker's name was Washington at that time. He just took my head off. And the first thing that went through my mind was stay here on the knee, right? Collect yourself. You know, make sure you have your legs underneath because if I get up and I take one step to the left or the right and it looks like I'm stumbling. I'm in the protocol to taking me off the field. And now, it wasn't about, you know, this off season's work. I'm looking at, since I was six years old, this was a dream of mine. I'm going back to all the work that I put in from when I was six years old. Now, I'm going to miss out on that $50 million contract. My mom. My mom, when I first got drafted, she was in a motel. My sister just had two kids and she was struggling. You know, the father wasn't sticking, standing up and doing what he was supposed to do. That responsibility was now on me. Now, who am I letting down? Who can I bless if I get this contract? So, what I did was I stayed on that knee, collected myself, I got up. And the thing that saved the day for me, which was bad, was it was a TV timeout. So, I had a little bit more time. And I played through it, ended up getting a big deal, et cetera, et cetera. But for the next two and a half to three weeks after that hit, I couldn't close my eyes without stumbling. I couldn't tie my shoes. And I didn't let anyone know. And that's why it's important, what you said earlier, for everyone else to protect the player. Because what makes us great and what gets us here is our ability to overcome that pain, to fight through it, that Marchese Moller approach, that warrior mentality. The good athletes, the great athletes have something that just, in their mind, that wants to fight through. Well, you only have 17 games, now 18. You work your whole life for something and everything is elevated because you only have a certain amount of time. And you're playing for that check. You're not the only story like this. There's story after story of beating the concussion protocol. So I ask you this, and they're trying to remove the gross motor instability from concussion protocols and all that. But as someone who cares about players, you care about players, you love them, you're one of them. If you had the power to change the protocol, what exactly would you do? I think that, you know, it's, how do I answer this question? Sorry. We have to just enforce what already exists. I think the protocol is fine. You have, down there, a dozen independent spotters and neurologists in the stadium. Do your job. Tuatonga Valoa stood up and almost failed. Come on. It's obvious what's happening right here. Okay, so, you know, sometimes we overcompensate when things like this happen. You know, public perception. The NFL's not doing their job. Yes, it's a bad look on the NFL. When you stand up and say, I care about player safety, and then the Tuatonga Valoa, he continues to play through whatever he's dealing with. That's a problem. But what happens is now we start overcompensating. Now we feel like we got to go change the rules. No, the rules are already good. You got 12 independent spotters in the stadium looking for this. Do your job. He should have been pulled out and he should have been assessed the right way. And it's obvious that he lost his motor skills. It was obvious. We'll see what the amending is. I don't know what the answer is. I just know that we're obviously not doing enough because it should never be a question after what happened Sunday and then what happened Thursday. We, of course, wishing him the best and we can be as happy as we want that he feels a little bit better. But there's bigger ramifications and we just need to do a better job of protecting our players, whatever that looks like. I will let you go, Brandon. I love that you're joining us from D.C. God only knows what you're up to, what universe you're dabbling into. That's it? I mean, what do you want to talk about, Odell? Is Odell the biggest frickin' flirt in the entire world? I want to talk about two things. I want to talk about two things. How much time do we have? What are the producers saying in your ear right now? Do you want to take a break? What is Richard saying in your ear right now? No, let's take a commercial break and come back. How about that? You cool? Okay. All right, I'll take a break. He's in, Richard. I don't even know what you want to talk about. I want to talk, Odell. Brandon wants to talk about something else. I want to talk about understanding why it receivers. You answer from those push-ups on that bike. Back with my friend, Brandon Marshall. A quick Google search, my friend tells me that you have a sold-out I am athlete main stage tonight over at City Winery, Washington, D.C. This is amazing. Right. No, it's cool. I was nervous. We were scared to death on our first one in New York a couple of weeks ago, and it was a phenomenal experience, and tonight's going to be cool as well. Then we play Philly next week, so October 13th. It's cool connecting with our audience. Oh, is LeShon McCoy going to be there for the Philly one? He better. But you know, he just took a new gig. He just took a new gig, so it's scheduled during the week. It's tough. I know. I tried hitting him up, too. I was like, LeShon, why don't you pop by my show? He's like, oh, I'm busy, and I have my new fuck show, which I'm really happy for him for. He's the best. He's the best. I love, love, love, love, love, LeShon. Okay, what do you want to talk about? Spin it out. So you want to talk about Odell, and then I want to talk about unsung white receiver. Like, I think we need to show other white receivers love outside of the Tyree kills of the world, the Stefan Biggs and Justin Jefferson. Who? More cases. Huh? Who? T. Higgins. T. Higgins. Do you know that T. Higgins, he's a dog. T. Higgins is on track to finish the year with 1,300 receiving yards. Now, to be honest now, when you have a dog white receiver on the other side, it opens it up for you. You're going against the number two. He was good before him. Yes, but I'm looking at like, I'm looking at how he tracks the ball. I'm looking at his playmaking ability. Even if there's no white receiver out there, some things that you see as a receiver's like, that skill, how you adjust, how you pick the ball off, your shoelaces. He's in his bag right now. If it wasn't for him going out due to concussion protocols and one half, he would be on track for 1,600 yards in the season, which will put him in position to be an all pro, have an all pro year. So T. Higgins, want to show you love, man. You're balling right now. Salute to T. Higgins. I love it. One of my favorite teams. He's so unheralded. I don't, it doesn't make any sense. I understand he's not Jamar Chase. I understand he doesn't have the connection with Joe Burrow that everybody likes to talk about. And that's a real thing. But T. Higgins does the dirty work out there for that team and he's a huge part of why they got to the Super Bowl. OBJ won a Super Bowl in that game against the Bengals, of course. And I think the Bengals are the only team that he's not connected to. You said you wanted him with the Giants. He's flirting with the Giants. I said, I want him in Green Bay. Aaron Rodgers is talking about him in Green Bay. Why is he flirting with everyone? And what's he up to? So, 2018, I had an opportunity to play for the Giants. One of my last cup of teas. Odell was one of my teammates, phenomenal athlete, phenomenal person in the locker room. And we had some intimate conversations. And when he was looking at what his next step could potentially be in OBJ, I'm spilling the tea because it was a long time ago. And I don't know what your thought process is right now. I haven't talked to you. So I don't know, you know, what you're trying to do. And you won a Super Bowl. So, you know, what's important to OBJ could change right now. But what I do know is that he really talked a lot about Tom Brady. What I do know, he really talked a lot about Aaron Rodgers, right? And you think about it, Aaron Rodgers, he needs some help. That could be a great destination, okay? But, but, but I know he loves Tom Brady. He loves Tom Brady. And guess what? Tom Brady is the ultimate recruiter. Not only the creditor, but recruiter. So you know, he's calling OBJ. And then the Giants make sense. Why does the Giants make sense? Because everybody in the building loves OBJ, okay? From the equipment managers up to ownership. Yeah. And was there some things he could have done differently back in the day? Probably. And ownership could have done some things differently. Now you're reunited. Your brother, Sterling Shepherd, goes down. Sterling, we're thinking about you. I love you, brother. I know the last couple of years has been tough. Just went down an ACL injury. But now you got Odell Beckham Jr. coming in. You know, you got receivers that are banged up. You know, Danny Donge needs some help. Danny Donge could just throw it up, close his eyes. And guess what you're going to see happen on Sunday night, Monday night, football, Thursday night, football. I don't know. Who's a better recruiter? New York's its own thing, but New York's not going. New York's talking about get rid of Saquon, okay? Von Miller says he keeps texting Odell. Obviously they won a championship together last year. He could go to Buffalo, doesn't he? What's more important to him? Tell me this. Priorit, let's think like Odell. Is it the city you're in, which you're bringing back to New York? That's the only reason you need to go back to New York. Let's be honest here, to be in that city. Is it loyalty to the team you want to ring with, which will put him in LA, McVeigh, and they've got a chance to win it? Is it playing with Tom Brady, a legend, in one of his last years? You know, because if city matters, then Green Bay is out, unfortunately. Look, a lot of people say he'll never go to Green Bay and want to be there. Even if he is playing with Aaron Rodgers. So prioritize what's important to Odell. Yeah, if I'm Odell, I would be looking at where can I go and contribute right away? Where can I go and leave an imprint on a game? Why? Because it gets my career back on track. If I can go out there similar to what he did last year, Odell, he's done. He hasn't scored a touchdown in seven, eight games and all of a sudden, boom, he lands in LA and now he has two touchdowns a game for four weeks in a row or whatever he was doing. He needs to find that type of groove again, whether it's LA, whether it's Tampa, whether it's Green Bay, because what ended up happening is he's now in position to have a contract extension. He's now in position to feel good about the next three, four, five years, however long he wants to play because he's back on track. If I pulled up the FanDuel app, and there were odds on where he'd end up, where would you put your money? I would say go to the FanDuel app and close your eyes and open them up, and then it's going to be Tampa Bay right there. Tampa Bay for Odell! I think he goes to the Buffalo Bills. Buffalo? I don't think it's a great shit. Yeah, I mean, Green Bay is the best fit. I just don't know if I see him going to Green Bay. Let me tell you why. Well, to me, Green Bay could be the best fit because Aaron Rodgers, he needs a wide receiver. Of course. In Tampa, you got Mike Evans, you still got Julio Jones in the mix, right? And you still got Chris Godwin still down there. So do you really want to be in that situation? But I know he loves Tom Brady. Who doesn't love Tom Brady? Green Bay, he needs the help. So you're really talking about impacting the game. That could be number one. Buffalo, the reason why I don't love Buffalo K is because you have step-on-digs in that relationship. What we talked about earlier, 2012, in that dynamic of my relationship with Jay Cutler, like it's weird when you have a free agent coming in, big name like that. And now you have step-on-digs, big name, big personality. Yeah, but does Odell need 100 catches? Odell didn't have 100 catches with the Rams, and he was okay. Cooper Cup was there. How is that different from having step-on-digs in Buffalo? No, but they love Gabe Davis as well, though. So now you have these, like the thing about Buffalo, those guys are so close. It's hard to break through. It's similar to what's happening in L.A. with the Rams and Allen Robinson, right? We just talked about that. It's just hard. Like, it's a beautiful thing, but it's hard for a wide receiver or anybody for that matter to come in and try to break through right away. It's just tough. I want him in Green Bay. I think that would be a fun little show, and they would be, and they're gonna have to throw the ball eventually. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Fandall, tell them to see. I think the odds just changed. Let me check. I think it's now Green Bay is the favorite. Okay, I, when you, you sat here in studio with me and I said I wanted him to go to Green Bay. Yep, yep. You have to tell me twice. Appleton, Wisconsin, Odell, there's a nice condo in Appleton, Wisconsin for you. There's a great, that's all, yeah, we need to, Odell spotted up the Piggly Wiggly. That's all I needed, man. Have you ever been to Appleton, Wisconsin? I've been to Appleton. I was just in Appleton last weekend. Who are you? I went to the game. I got a family in Appleton.東西. Be李arch, we've got to go. Because we've been, we love you. We've been on the show for 35 minutes. Let's go get it back. Enjoy the game onicing. We love you so much. Enjoy the City Winery. I would tell people to get tickets, but it's sold out. I am the athlete, taking over the world. Brandon Marshall smiling. Alain Robinson, thrown me the damn ball. That's what I learned in this conversation. What do you guys think of an Adam show? after this because we do have 39 footballs to get to as fun as that is because one of these two lousy teams has to win. Everett and my control room is freaking out right now because we're supposed to have Brendan Marshall on for 8 minutes, 10 minutes, it's now 40 minutes into the show but he was so incredible and we thank him for coming on. And I'm going to tell you now about something called Twisted Tee. That's right, Twisted Tee's College Football Pics is back and you can enter for free at Vanduul.com and if you don't win this week don't worry you'll have more chances all the way through week 13 which has a, is this right, a $100,000 prize pool, whoa, make sure to sign up this week and every week for your chance to win. How was it week five already? Wow, the Denver Broncos house, the Indianapolis Colts, tonight on Thursday night, football and for more on this game let's bring in my new best friend Nick Cosmider who is Polish and covers the Broncos for the Athletic, Nick, nice to meet you. It's great to meet you Kay, thanks for having me on. Thank you for being here and for waiting patiently as you know, Mr. Marshall went to DC, he was actually in Washington and he's still a bust during my entire program and hijacking it but that's neither here nor there. Let's talk about these Broncos that you know in and out. They're sitting there at two and two like so many NFL teams are as we look forward to week five which kicks off hours from now. Expectations, we're not two and two. Expectations were mile high when they broaden to Russell Wilson in fact and he looks a little better. He doesn't look great. Is he ready to turn the corner? You know there are certainly some signs Kay that he's progressing that way and the biggest thing is the last two games that went over the 49ers and then the loss to the Raiders in week four. He has started playing a little more outside of the pocket. He has started to kind of do the Russell Wilson things that we've all known so well over the last 10 years and that's sort of what the Broncos have needed. They are a complete boomer bust offense right now. No team in the league finishes more of their drives with punts than the Broncos but they're also fourth in explosive play percentage. So it's either Russell Wilson is bailing this team out or they're not getting anything done on offense and so that's that's the kind of middle ground they're looking for right now. Yeah. And the coach questions about the coach are many right the penalties the timeouts right off the bat there. He's been heavily scrutinized and he's you know supposed to be this offensive guru and he's of course linked with Aaron Rogers which makes things worse for him because there's prejudice there. I know how the fans in the media feel just by the pulse on Twitter. How's the trust between Hackett and his locker room though. You know I think there is a lot of I think there's a lot of goodwill that he built up during the off season right. He came in and he was very clear about what their plan was going to be. They weren't going to play their starters in the preseason. They were going to kind of go through this camp that was sort of designed to you know really drill down the details of the offense but maybe not so much of the you know again the preseason action and I think players bought into that plan and the one thing that he has done well because you mentioned it I have not seen the scrutiny for a first year head coach in his first two games like what Daniel Hackett faced. But I think that sort of the transparency sort of the admission to his own mistakes the fact that after that week to win against Houston he went out and hired Jerry Rosberg as his game manager right the long time more Ravens assistant. So I think there is that trust but again they have to start showing that hey it's not just the you know some of the game management stuff they have to create more of a flow offensively they're just going through these slogs and games K where they're putting three four times in a row. And like I said earlier just waiting for Russell Wilson to bail them out. They need to get on a more consistent track thirty seven penalties most in the league short week this week but bright lights everyone's watching limit the penalties stop punting a great call by most of those have been on offense to that's that's the thing that's been been really killer because they're putting themselves behind the chains every time they have this you know they have these call what they call the gtbo plays get back on track plays when you lose a couple yards on first down or second down and you know offensive coordinator Justin out and set this week we've been in that section of the play sheet like the majority of the games because they're trying to get back ahead of the sticks and so they they have not gotten to the things they want to get to offensively because of the penalties you mentioned because of you know what it's you know fumbles of course Melvin Gordon the issues he's had there it's it's just been a lot that has prevented them from kind of finding any traction I do I don't know how I feel about Hackett hitting the me in the podium and saying you know I believe in Melvin Gordon giving I hear is I sense him not wanting to lose the locker room but also he's got you know the fumbles are costing them games with Melvin Gordon and now he's going to have a bigger role potentially right Javonte Williams he's suffered a season injury injury that's so brutal that was last week so who do they lean on because I'm getting so many Twitter questions about it it's it's such a unique situation because I think that had Javonte Williams not gotten hurt on Sunday against the Raiders I don't know that Melvin Gordon would be a part of the rotation anymore it got it got that bad even going into that game K Melvin Gordon did not touch the ball until there were three minutes left right second quarter this is his third year on the team I've never seen that with him and that first carry turns into the back breaking fumble and it's it's one of those situations where if you had another choice and you put him back out there and you he fumbles again that's not a Melvin Gordon at that point that's on the coaching staff for making that choice and riding with him but now they don't have a choice Javonte Williams is out there to sign Latavius Murray off the Saints practice squad T train that's what I want I want I bet I bet you Latavius Murray has two touchdowns in him he's a huge I just I bet you he does brilliant game when he had to play last week it's why you guys signed him I hope for a kismet performance he's one of my favorite players honestly well how about this Latavius Murray is gonna have a chance to play two games in London this year if he's if he's still riding because the Broncos go there like that's got to be a first and and look I think he's gonna be into the mix quickly Mike Boone is the other running back on the roster has some explosive playmaking ability but doesn't pass protect well has had a couple drops in the passing game so they're up against it the bottom line is Melvin Gordon it's up to him he has got to be able to not fumble the ball because they have to run the ball they can't depend on Russell Wilson to throw 50 times a game and a bit of a blessing in disguise for this Broncos I the Jonathan Taylor you know it doesn't it kind of balances out he's of course been ruled out for this game so we'll see what nine Heinz can do in his steps tonight under the bright lights of Thursday night football on Amazon Prime we appreciate you Nick Cosmite are covering those Broncos for us so carefully and for the athletic where we can check out all of your stuff didn't get to say bye to him but we'll be back after this I don't know why I'm sitting like this but we are just doing it listen that's why I asked him for you guys is Latavius Murray is it Mike Boone I know you want sleepers you've got injuries you got problems bye weeks are on their way woof I got your help next Fandalo Casino's just launched their exclusive Fandalo branded live dealer casino and it's available to play in Michigan and Pennsylvania now you don't need to leave home to be in the casino you can play all your favorite table games like blackjack and roulette with a real live dealer if you guys need like a celebrity dealer to like do it one day I would love to do that that would be really fun anyway it's real cards against real competition and you guessed it real money their deposits and withdrawals are so fast and secure it is like being at a real life casino alright let's talk a little value that looks like a lady who found somebody as a sleeper she was so excited to get a win there so I have some options for you do not sleep on these guys you up from Andre Stevenson let's go even as the backup to Damien Harris a lot of value right now the path leaning on the run game we know their quarterback situations kind of mucky it's up in the air and there are plenty of carries to go around he had 18 touches last week that's great 99 yards against the Packers I was there in the flesh he looked good and this weekend he's facing a lion's defense as we all know they scroll out of points those lines but they let a ton they're very generous their gift wrapping fantasy points to running back second most this season Travis Etn another guy yet that you need to get in your daily fantasy lineups over at Fandle he's gotten off to kind of a slow start but he's playing at about 50% of Jaguar snaps so the opportunity for volume is there he's got the Texans this weekend remember how I told you how the Lions allow the second most points to running backs want to know who allows the most points to running backs Brian it's the Texans get him in your lineup you're not even paying attention take notes are you winning your fantasy league no take notes Brian Josh Reynolds someone else I think you should be interested in because if I'm on rock we love and know can't go you know this is a must-start situation he has gotten 18 targets the last two weeks a hundred seventy seven yards total and a touchdown Patriots they're middle of the pack against wide receivers this year great pass rush but they're allowing some points they're not this shut down defense that they once were so don't let the Patriots scare you away from getting Josh Reynolds in your lineup should I give you another wide receiver because I love you fine fine fine I will Robert Woods his targets yes they've been up and down they've been you know all over the map this year but if there was a week to play him I do think it's against this struggling Washington defense the commanders have allowed the most touchdowns to the wide receiver spot this year and the second most points overall man I love when we're four weeks in then you have enough data to support trends in this game last but not least I submit Tyler Conklin again because I love you here's a great sleeper racking up targets volume matters he's seventh most among tight ends so far this season when it comes to target share he's also pulled up back to back games with 50 plus yards this weekend it's the Dolphins defense the Dolphins defense has allowed the third most yards to tight end so far this season so if we take a quick look at everybody Tyler Conklin the Jets tight end a nice little sleeper there you up Tyler Conklin hop into my fan dual a daily fantasy lineup oh we don't have a recap screen Ramon Dre Stevenson Travis Etienne Josh Reynolds Robert Woods and Tyler Conklin one day one day we'll get this right all right we've got this guy next I heard he's dressed as the Easter Bunny oh that's what Conrad said that not me Conrad said that on me I love you Jeff you're gonna teach me what a teaser is our next guest is an NFL veteran and current gambling analyst at Fox Sports and the only person patient enough to try to teach me about sports betting his names Jeff Schwartz ladies and gentlemen Jeff I'm glad to be here I'm glad to help you out we'll teach you what a teaser is in a few minutes yeah I just people have tried many have tried all have failed let's start Thursday night football it's kind of a toughy to pick it's an ugly game and that's why sports betting is so fun when it comes to these Colts and these Broncos what do you got okay you know you can bet this game to end in a tie I heard you earlier talk about how this game might not be good you can do that if you would like to but I'm gonna bet it under here because I think both teams cannot score I mean I know both teams cannot score Colts gov have gone under for their four games so far Denver and three of the four and Thursday night football in most primetime games in the last year have been under as well right both running backs out on a short week don't trust both quarterbacks so I'll go under 42 here low scoring game the Broncos rank 30th in point scored this season long long while the Colts have ranked dead last woof I hear you have a couple of props for me what's shaking over and dual sports book so I'm gonna Michael Pittman over 62 and a half receiving yards he's been over that number twice this year he's really the Colts only option tonight in my opinion to move the ball down the field right with with no Taylor and then keyed up kind of on stop of the run is we'll we'll we'll Denver so I'll go Pittman here over and then Russell Wilson under 231 passing yards he he's yeah quarterback unders are the way to go don't ever bet overs on quarterbacks they're so hard to hit under can hit so many different ways he has struggled so far this season under this number twice he wouldn't be under last weekend except for a final pass of the game bet under here Colts have done a good job so far this year against quarterbacks under 231.5 passing yards for Russell Wilson you're the boss I don't know all right now explain to me stack the board and explain to me what a teaser is okay so a teaser is when you want to move a side or total in different directions six points or more standard teaser six points and what you do you try to move it through key numbers so on a side right so Kansas City is favored by seven or seven and a half the key numbers in the NFL on those are seven and three most games and seven and three so what you do is you say I think Kansas City will win I'm not quite sure about seven and a half so I'll move them from seven and a half down to a point and a half right so if the chiefs win by two points or more I win this wager instead of seven and a half points now it's one and a half points so I like to move favorites a lot of times in this direction so it goes under a field goal essentially right so we'll take Kansas City now under the field goal to cover against the Raiders we'll take Jacksonville is a seven point favorite move them down to one point favorite all I got to win by is more than one point against the Texans this weekend and you and you can count on this leg as far as your tea your teaser the last one for me is Tampa Bay I think the number is now nine it was eight and a half earlier when I sent this in yesterday so that would be two and a half now for Tampa Bay so I get all three teams under a field goal this is like a parlay situation where you have to get them all right you have to get them all right but you have a little bit more leeway in in and I took the Packers I'm sorry I took the Packers here got seven and a half to minus a point half against the Giants in a low-scoring game I think in London so yes it's like it's like a teaser you have to win all three legs but you get plus 140 here so you get hundred you win 140 I like to do this. Why have I never heard about teasers like what what it sounds like an attractive like low-risk way to do it? It's a good way it's a good way it's better than parlay in my opinion not as big of a payout as a parlay but it's a good way to play with numbers you get better numbers doing teasers. I gotta be honest with you you lost me like 10 seconds into the teaser. I need it I need I need a whiteboard I need a whiteboard a lab code. You can do that next time. I have a whiteboard. You're the best of shorts.