 Well, Reverend Jackson, thank you so much for the opportunity to talk to you. I want to begin by looking at your historic run for office when you laid claim to the Democratic nomination. How did that pave the way for a Barack Obama presidency? It wouldn't be that presumptuous, but suffice it to say, at some point someone starts to run, just to run. And if I had not run it, Lockhart would have set people up to disappoint them. So I ran. I learned what is a surrogate. I learned the campaign in an hour and a half and not just in the southern states. We were told, you shouldn't go to Iowa, Iowa is too white, only to get it defined. You can't be valid if you don't take it all on. So by going to Iowa, we found that the family farmer and who had lost their farm to the corporate farmer and the black industry, the record, lost their job, the corporations going abroad had more income than they realized. That was an economic class issue. Class issue. So we began to hook up the family farmer and the unemployed urban worker. And our coalition was born, so we got double digits in Iowa. That was a big deal. We actually beat Gore and Gephardt in Iowa. That was a big deal. But I mean, the whites could hear our voices beyond limits of race. That's significant. You mentioned that because, you know, just around where the newspaper headlines. And people to this day refer to that era as one of the watershed moments in American politics in democratic politics. Did you feel that you were on the threshold of a major change? And when you look back, do you feel it was a great move for you to have made that kind of a bold run and to really democratize the process? I didn't know how big the moment was in the moment because I was running as an organizer. In the political season of primaries, the candidates determined the agenda and the press. We couldn't get our civil rights issues raised. We were talking about urban policy and free mandala and gender equality. We couldn't be heard by running for the presidency. And so by 1988, that was an appreciation of how we brought to the conversation. I remember one night we were told, Jesse, you know, tomorrow night we're going to, you've been in all these debates, but we're going to discuss foreign policy. So if you don't want to come, you don't have to because we know you're a foreign policyologist. You know, we understand. I said, I'm anxious to be part of foreign policy to come to the conversation. I said, what do you know about foreign policy? I said, we can't be on the foreign policy. Slavery was the foreign policy. I said, oops. The point of the matter, we were trying to expand consciousness. Looking back, how crucial was it for students to lead activism back in the 50s and the 60s? Students basically came south and led the drive to illegal apartheid and illegal segregation. We paid a bloody price for ending legal apartheid because there were those so vested in keeping us apart. And I found that the people are vested in keeping us apart because they exploit our apartness. So one generation fought to end segregation as a matter of law. Another generation fought for the right to vote. So now fighting to reduce student loan debt, student loan debt, credit card debt, it cost too much to go to school. Students with the best minds can even apply to attend. The University of Missouri became almost the poster child around the country for diversity in higher ed. How important is it? What do you think it's going to be about the Christ of America? The difference on the football field, not in the classrooms, not in the faculty, not in tenured professors. And the football team said they would not play football unless it was a dress. It was in the film of that economic engine and PR or magnet called football. That's what captured the nation's attention. And those young men made a statement to the nation. Bernie Sanders made it clear on the campaign trail to let us know, Senator Bernie Sanders, that he supported Iran in the 80s for president. And he built lightly his populism on your campaign of the 84 and 88 in challenging the status quo and so forth. He brought a lot of people around this movement, the Sanders movement, around democratic politics. What happens to that movement now moving forward as they demand political accountability? Those who in that movement must be long distance runners. If they let their inspiration evaporate, a trend in the vapor now, it was just a fad. They must not allow themselves, not to vote feverishly, to fulfill the mission. I would think that Dr. King would find us to enjoy in this moment. He would urge us in the classrooms watching this taping. You're the classmate with whom you're not comfortable. I mean, a roommate. Don't eat in your silo. Identify your own death in the can of your own religious group or your athletic partners. But join the university, the universitas, the university community. If you come to the university mission four years later, you've learned that lesson. You can cope with a challenging world. If you've just learned how to survive in your silo, you live beneath your privilege. So learn to live, share, and grow together. Thank you, Reverend. Right. The Reverend Jesse Jackson, founder and president of the Rainbow Push Coalition, America's premier civil rights leader, and Ben Kalei Thompson.