 The hashtag in a Bucky to Bounce nation. You can tag me at fillin g in P H Y L I N E J E A N on all socials. I'm your favorite presenter's low key idol hang out with a bit doctor DJ epic epic the DJ E P I C T H E D E E J A Y. D E E J A Y. Love that. And of course we have our second guest right here in studio. She is not only pretty but she is a rapper, singer, performing and recording artist and other than that she's also a PR and marketing specialist. Can we give it up for Saiza one time? Let's go. Hi, how are you doing? You look amazing. I love where the camera person is doing. Drip is dripping. Drip is dripping. It is dripping. It is giving everything it should give and your hair with this weather. How do you get it to stay like that? It drips forever. It drips forever. I'm telling you it is raining and her hair is not even freezing and everything and it's just like that. I don't know what you did but it's working and it's a natural hair for those who are thinking like silly. I'm telling you we need some tips on how to make our hair like that but that is for later on. Let's talk about music. First of all kindly introduce yourself to our fans. Okay so my name is Sandabi aka the new sheriff in town aka Kairetu so yeah. That's my instrument. I love that. We're going to talk about the Saiza you did recently but before we get into that, talk us through your journey in music. How long have you been doing this and especially rap? How long have you been doing rap music? Okay so I haven't been like an artist or rather I started my music career in 2022 December. That's when I dropped like my first debut single Sae Sae. So I'd say I'm not new to the game because as you've said I'm a peer in marketing especially. So I'm a team member with the ADIF so yeah. Oh so you were part of ADIF? Yeah I was part of it. You are but you left. Now when I now started venturing to my music career so yeah. Oh you are them as part of the PR team. So okay talk. When is your time? When is your time? Actually my time is defined so I say on December and I decided to like drop my debut single and I said oh for real okay. Actually I'm not new to the game. No way. So you're like can I dope I mean? Can I dope? Yeah yeah. Okay I love that. All right let's talk about you doing hip-hop music. Yeah a lot of females would just like rather sing not a lot of women do venture into hip-hop music. So is it hip-hop something you grew up listening to? Did you have like an influence or someone else as something that influenced you to do that? I'd say yeah and especially being on the back end I've been such a lover of like Kenyan hip-hop. So I was like okay why not never generally realize I can rap and I can also sing. I was like I can fuse both of them. I know and it's an amazing space. Start out to the likes of Femi the Wameka. We still the taste of time but then we have people like Kina Petra they started almost the same time with Femi but she left the scene. So what is your what is your game plan to make sure that you know okay Kifemi is 10 years down the line 20 years down the line we're still talking about things like that. Because honestly I can't say like Clisthia Mademi who is the best female of course Femi, Wange, she's like Yannis Nakanga to constant right like the past yeah the same same people and I feel like because I'm so knowledgeable about the space and I'm so grateful and I have so many amazing creatives because you know the business side who are knowledgeable on the business side PR in Nakanga one in Nakanga like a plus it's a plus especially understanding how the music yeah so I can say I'm even here and I'm at a better place than say Anandza Sayi because of the knowledge like because we have it on the land and I feel like with my game plan already I'm not too far I'm not too far because actually have made debut album coming through I know but a new single comes a year it came out last year and one year down the line now we're going to have an album coming through yeah hey yeah could you too Mahashtag, believe? believe to make a composite yes crazy anyway I love I love what you're doing but how how can I say you've grown lyrically lyrically from Sayi Sayi to Naokaire to can you see any changes from how you started to where you are right now? I actually are because I'd say with more practice because honestly me as I say my worst part of this whole creation process in Nakanga studio. Yeah, recording, bro. I'm performing, bro, upon you, so much. By the stage you're going to be going, yeah, in a stage, you can go, what? She, the other day, I was in a jail, she was like, what? Some child, she was just going to be part of the Jits, like, to record. Then you wait to produce then? Then me too, to produce, you know, but I'm learning, like that's the worst, you know, it's the worst time, so you know, go, I'm in a studio, I'm just like, damn, but so, of late, I I'm not going to go to a studio. Especially now, in the middle of the way. Yeah, so it will also interact with different creatives in this idea as well. I'm not going to go to a studio, I'm going to go to my audience. So I'm trying to connect with my audience, at least disconnect. That is very important. So how are we doing that through social media? Yeah, social media. I love to also take people through. So at a studio, I go live. As much as I say, I have an element of surprise. I like to show people what is happening behind the creative process. Because once I say what goes on behind, I'm like, okay. I was part of that. The song is out, they feel like they've been part of the process. So it's like you're a studio, you can't do anything. It doesn't really happen. You just record it and say, you know, it's a story. It's actually making the story beautiful. Exactly. Right. And I also want to talk about you being a female artist in a very male dominated industry. Tell me about that. What are some of the limitations you experience as a female artist and also a rapper? I'd say, you know, the fact that you have an opinion, you know, an idea, and then you shut down completely. Like, someone will just be there to do the same. But I think over the years, I've seen and I've seen how to work around it. Right. Because I've seen a position to make complain killer type, to make a killer type. So I figured out other ways of how to like communicate and make sure like, and I'd say the space has really evolved because say you know, but I didn't, you know, call the shots that are crazy, the corporate rooms and all this. Of course. So at least I was able to change. I know. You know, Shamba 2, Flanua 12. I know. I know. I know. Say you know, since you're a forefront. I know. To not push it. And I think that because like, you'd find at least of 10, top 10 rappers. And then there's a list of top 10 rappers. And then there's a list of top 10 rappers. And I really hate it when it's done like that. Right. Because I'm referring to what suicide and she's going to have to have conversation. She's going to have female doctor and male doctor. They just say doctor. Exactly. So like you know, kind of in my wrapper, my wrapper, tell them to do that thing. So in my list, tell them to say and include the disability of female rapper. You know, I am a rap girl. I am a rapper. When it comes to including women, then now say top 5 top 10 female rappers in Kenya. Yeah. It shouldn't be like that. It's 2024. Anyway, you have been part of, speaking of like women winning in the industry. You were part of a cipher that just came out. It's called the number one cipher by Sosunia. Sosunia, big shout out to Sosunia. Yeah, big shout out to her, of course. So tell me about that. How did you link up with Sosunia? And whose idea was it to bring all the female rappers together and just do this? Tumona Calicatel, one, two, three, Tumona. Like everybody has just been putting out ciphers. And then they include women, which is great. But this one is just all women. And all female line-ups. So Sosunia, a little tricky. I think, before that one, there's one called Badiz cipher, Big shout out to Dillegist. So, I can hear her saying, so, are you ready to work? I'm not sure, so when it's time for me to go. So I'm going to go and get a beat and then I'm going to get a K2 and I'm going to get a SOS. So I'm going to get a SOS and I'm going to get a K2 and I'm going to get a K2. So I'm going to get a Delivered Tuba. I'm going to get a foot tender and I'm going to get a shoot, bro, I'm going to get a foot tender and I'm going to get a I'm just like wow. Did that intimidate you in anyway? No. No? Honestly, like rencontrer. I've now shown she believes in herself. I don't know if she likes it or anything. And then when I see someoneuo- Okay, hold up, hold up. So I love where you are not like, then I feel like I might have been Mediterranean cipher like. Hey, you know when you are in say, like I love it and then it was so amazing because in a job I say work on a different stories so cook, interact, it was so inspiring I love that you say that because people assume like when women come together they come to the country and tell stories My damn always you are a baboja My damn in one room it can never happen so your experience was your experience was amazing it was amazing I love it I love it at least I love it I love it I love it but sadly it's like I love it I love it and of course you told us you have an album on the way how soon are we talking and do you have any features we should know about anything you want to tell us Kabla if you can't turn down okay so I'd say in a month's time Inshallah in April we will be talking and we will be in April so I have a couple of features I don't have any management but one of the features is Joakali of course the pioneers yeah so I'm going to have a party for now that's nice we love it at least I'm going to wear something like it's one of you know but we love that and I love how hard you are working are you still in PR and marketing I still do it but behind the scenes because I don't know the whole other life the whole commitment I'm up to the task I love that any advice you'll give to young women as yourself and young girls super young still in school watching you and they're like I want to be like her I want to do what she's doing you have any advice for them my advice in Akonga just be true to yourself and just learn how to be grateful don't say that glass half empty just say it half full optimist so be an optimist be able to find something positive out of all in everything that is such a good advice do you have any shout outs big shout out to my mom my bro you're a big shout out to my folks because there are people who are patient and me big shout out to my team big shout out to everyone your social media the most important you can follow me on all social media platforms you can stream my music everywhere everywhere that is S-A-I-S-A that is S-A-I-S-A that is S-A-I-S-A I love it make sure you go check out what she has done check out her cipher as well check out the number one cipher and the number one cipher go check out the number one cipher and also check out her crafters if you have a new song go check it out Killa Mahali Big shout out to iPhone Street Kena Big shout out to your amazing just go check out all that it's pure awesomeness you're going to love it thank you so much for staying here you are on hashtag bounce nation so we're going to play Kairi to one more time before you call it