 So last time we talked about the future of anti-snap for Broadway. The anti-snap flimabally describes density, like the number of housing units that would be allowed, typically, or the power of employees, or welfare footage of a commercial building. The anti-snap isn't really a design document, but there's a lot of interest and concern about design on Broadway. And it seemed that the conversation we were trying to have about the anti-snap, describing density, was frustrating that it wouldn't be complete to some or many people in the room who wanted to think about design. And so we talked about trying to make recommendations for improving design outcomes on Broadway that would complement the future of anti-snap and zoning. And so, an example I wanted to share with you of the type of buildings or redevelopment that seems like it's allowed or encouraged on Broadway now and it can't happen. And it's different than some prior planning efforts laid out. It would be, for example, a restaurant that has a drive-through window that doesn't have any sort of orientation or relationship to Avenue B. So there's not a pedestrian, a vibrant space on Avenue B. Most of the site can be occupied by a parking lot instead of having to be used for a building with more people with maybe the parking infrastructure next door or a dense parking. It wouldn't have like a public plaza or gathering place and there'd be driveways interrupting the sidewalk. And so that's actually contrary to a lot of guidance that's already been included in prior plans that wasn't actually followed along in ending the unified development of Avenue B and zoning. So, what we'd like to talk about doing and including in the Midtown Plan is integrating the recommendations from the Midtown Bracken Bridge plan, which was created in 2011, into the Midtown, into this Midtown plan. That would involve having a whole process, a whole planning and design process, dedicated to that effort after we're done with this plan. It would have to involve primary representatives, other stakeholders. And it would really be a detailed process to create a design standards and amend the zoning code. We'd have to involve lots of other government agencies really focusing on those topics rather than right now we are spread a little bit thinner across the whole Midtown area. And again, we'd start after completing the Midtown plan. So I'd like to share with you some of the recommendations from that plan. Unlike the land use map, they included a map of characterities providing transitions to Bracken Bridge Park, recommendations for neighborhood transitions so that they're not abrupt and jolly to people that live in the neighborhood of Jason. They encourage some more urban areas and some less neighborhood oriented commercial areas. There's a couple dozen pages of these recommendations. And for example, just about the Bracken Bridge Park transition, there's a couple of pages of recommendations to talk about how buildings are encouraged to incorporate passages between Broadway and Avenue B for people to pass through between the two. Where Avenue B should be activated as a pedestrian place. Potentially they can tell the person channel of landscapes and value water feature that people can enjoy. Incorporating a small urban plaza amidst buildings. Encouraging all kinds of other amenities like street trees, having buildings that really aren't oriented to the street. It goes through many topics, including potential building heights. A percentage of a building that's supposed to be up against the sidewalk and facing the street. Again, I'm not trying to make you absorb these actual recommendations, but rather give you a sense of how much thought went into those. They are pretty recent. At the last planning team members expressed that they were interested in sticking with these and actually trying to get them implemented forward. Here's an example of a passageway between two buildings. For example, we could connect Broadway and Avenue B. A plaza where people can gather. An activated streetscape. Low impact development stormwater features. Stormwater management features to allow rainwater to soak into the ground instead of running off quickly and with lots of pollution to area rivers and streams. This is another example of a pedestrian passage actually from Chicago. And another urban plaza that might be appropriate for one or another place on Broadway and probably not for others. So again, encouraging courtyards, paseos, greens, pedestrian streets. And basically trying to encourage that by allowing a few more housing units or a little bit more height concentrated in one place to allow some extra public space for people to gather and enjoy on the side. Here's an example of another recommendation where right now one could travel without telling anyone to one of these businesses commercial parking lots directly. To travel for Broadway, Avenue B, part of the program. There's really several locks from a street connected to it. And so the Bracket Ridge, the Midtown Bracket Ridge church recommendations would really encourage pedestrian passage that's aligned with the neighborhood street. So that it's intuitive to exit the neighborhood and find one's way across to an enhanced and activated avenue. And so all of these recommendations, they were very thorough, but they didn't, there wasn't a follow up process to actually the actual rules. So they remain recommendations that can guide tourist decisions on what kinds of projects they invest in, but it's not in code. So one can still come and oftentimes the easiest pathway to develop is a more suburban and status quo. A single story of what gives lots of surface parking. Yeah, there's a concern on the part of the neighborhood. It's the lead over into the neighborhood. What's that transition between Broadway and four-story buildings and five-story buildings? We have that monster's tower. They're a health brand. We want to see that all the way down. That was a big part of my discussion last time that I remember. And so we also have some brand use map recommendations that speak to that. But the design recommendations in the Midtown Bracket Ridge church plan are partly about neighborhood transitions. From Broadway to one street over or a few properties over in some cases where the residential isn't separated by a street from Broadway. It's just a hundred feet away across a couple of the properties. And so the Midtown Bracket Ridge plan for two thousand dollars actually I got upon some ways in which the current code allows transitions that are, it said were to abrupt. And there's some recommendations to actually ensure that the transition is smoother and you don't have steeply rising buildings coming right out of the pattern neighborhood next to Broadway. And so the idea in recommending that we implement those design guidelines and create actual regulations out of them. It still leaves an entire design process to actually create what the buildings are made. So we don't have to necessarily be okay with every last utilities in order to recommend that we implement a complete planning process that includes stakeholders to work on moving forward. And so again, this is the design recommendations instead of us coming up with a new set in the planning department in the midst of this planning process. The idea is to use what was really thorough work from pretty recently and work from here after the Midtown plan. And so the scope of the tourist plan, let me see if I can get us back to the map instead of just describing it. There's a line that's green and blue running through here that's Broadway. And so typically it's just within one block of Broadway to Margaret or Ketapa. In some places, Margaret and Ketapa don't continue, but it's, it runs pretty tight to the existing commercial areas. And then the north-south is, this is Alamo Heights in Burn Road and this is I-35. They also include recommendations for areas here, for all of us. And that wasn't something that we talked about as much last time. And so I'm not sure who to recommend implementing these design guidelines and actually following through with the rules. There's also underneath the past there is a parking facility that's going to be unified. Between the Highway Interchange of I-35 to I-31, 37 here. And it's been laid out, and I think it has some important features. It has the re-investment zone for a while. And it looks like we're going to spend part of the money in that work out. But as you can see there's green areas in there. And it's really, I guess what we're trying to focus on is to shuttle from that area to other parts of either Broadway or downtown. And the TERS board is, is there, is it 800 that makes up TERS? Yeah, so another issue that we might talk about more like forward is shared parking. And how to actually initiate, there's a lot of talk about parking should be shared. But how do you, can you get the first developers to start sharing? And get somebody to build a little extra to share. So that's something that we might have to talk about some more in forward. So again, it's an important compliment we think to the Land Use Now to provide some extra certainty around what a category of Land Use Now could mean in the future. For an area that's undoubtedly extremely important, probably to the neighborhood. But the region of thought about that or concerns. And again, it's something that would be, you know, open to further discussion once it's in the draft and tech plan. So if I follow you, I'm going to do this in the same dos and energies. And I'll see a common then during design, guideline criteria that would be in there. So that's how I would look at it. If I were a resident developer or city staff, it's going to be laid out for me. Or if I plan to, is there some fine guidelines? So we wouldn't copy many, we wouldn't copy pages from this, from the mid-time marriage plan into the mid-time plan. But it would be referred to. And there would be ideas, there would be a whole planning and design process after this to really make them part of the rules. And then, if somebody wants to develop, or somebody wants to know what the rules are for a developer, because they're concerned about what's being proposed. The design standards would ultimately be included in the code, the city code for development. And that applies within my department's website. Can you get it? I will send the planning team a link to the plan. Yes, I have a question. I'm sorry, I'm going to go to the party on this. Is the deliverable for this plan going to be in official form? Is there going to be a way to go about the interactive map and see some of these, the zone areas and some of the recommendations that lay out in the actual sort of interactive? An interactive GIS map aside from the web page that I showed you earlier is not part of what we're decorating. But it will be essentially, there will be a map within the web page, and then both the associated text and photographs illustrating what we're talking about to go along with them. Some of the shape files will also be helping with all the services in the form of the web page. So, some of the other things will be on the on-the-zombie as well. There is a city-wide map that has all kinds of interactive information, like zoning and streets, neighborhood association factories, future life use map. After the city council adopts the future life use map, it will be incorporated into that. Is that included in the first? Is that a separate project for the plan? I guess you're talking about two things, the same term for tomorrow, and the land use term. And the service is a separate plan. None of the capital looks, so it's like it's cost to see where it gets. That's it. One of the benefits of an online plan is that we can navigate to it right there and see just click. And go over to the first. So, now let's talk about the land use map on Broadway. So, it was concerned at the last meeting about neighborhood impacts in Westport Alliance, to Irving Hill, and making pardon from development, not in the neighborhood per se, but out on the commercial corridor. And just with the amount that's happened in the River North area, downtown, around the world, people are starting to feel traffic and parking impacts. And there's some concern about work coming in the future. We talked about, again, design transitions with wreckage parts. And just the idea that there's the potential for it. You just have a land use map and displays without the design standards. It might not be the best they can do. And the Broadway corridor, given how important it is to the whole region, needs to be, it's a really good design. And so, that's all the stuff we just talked about. But let's also talk about some of the ideas for responding to the threats in your screens. This is the map we talked about last time. And the darkest purple represents the highest density kind of next to you. So the most people living and working and using that area, we had that designated by Hildegra, 1827, for example, 18 people. And as you approach Joseph 8th Street and Grayson Street, these areas. There's also a media of density next to you. So it's still a mix in that we're trying to encourage the people living and working and shopping and getting services in pretty close proximity to one another. And that's the medium-shaped purple. And now there's more of a neighborhood mix to use that might have something like the residential density you were having in the South of town homes. But it could also have commercial performance. So that's the slightest purple. And so there's concern about impacts and making part of traffic going through Government Hill to access I-35 brothels and parking lots and Westport lines and so on. It was a long conversation. I can't summarize. I had a good start when we talked about it. But the basic message that I heard was that let's try to lower, let's try to have less density in some places along the corridor and leave some notes of higher density where more people would still have a more of an opportunity to live or work or visit and get multiple things done at the same time and counter a friend or somebody new to hang out and follow you through the plaza and the like. And so we looked at the map. We looked at some of the other work we've done that I'll show you in the next couple of minutes. And we made some discussion, some changes for discussion purposes. Essentially lowering the density that we would recommend along several areas next to Manking Park neighborhood, Northwood Park, some areas next to Manking Park Southwood Park, next to Westport Alliance, to within a couple hundred feet of Josephine. And let's still leave some of these notes of density and recommend it. We still have some pretty urban development there where we have a few of the several stories that the design standards allow for it. And where that density could be used to help insectivize some of the public improvements that are envisioned like the highest quality sidewalks or the Paseo between Broadway and New York, a little positive. One thing just to note, in that area just below the footprint, right by 18G buildings, there's a flood problem that has to be suppressed out of the intersection area. I've been reconstructing it. We put a pipe down over to the river side over there. And it's quite large. But we didn't, as part of that project, we couldn't take it down any further. So I have a check with Captain Provence and Mike Rizzi about when Broadway and Provence are made, if the scent of the water shed and all these issues are going to be dealt with. But I think they are, and I'm not sure exactly. That's what we need. Because the more density you have in the apartment, the more great it is. Particularly south of the apartment. South of the apartment. South of the apartment, yeah. So, yeah, we have a little bit of work to do with the San Antonio River Authority if they have recommendations ready that we could incorporate into the plan. If not, you know, we also don't have to do that. Plans are going to come in the past. I've recommended some amount of mixed use here. With the overall recommendation, yeah, before anything really happens here, we have to address the flood problems. But in the meantime, we'll use this language now. So, to select these areas until we need more density, we looked at where we think transit stations might be located, high-quality transit stations in the future where you might have frequent service, such as at Hildegrand's Broadway or Grace Headed Broadway. We looked at some of the gateways that were addressed in the, excuse me, some of the gateways that were addressed at the San Antonio River and Whitty Museum at Mankey Park a few other locations, such as Lines Field and Mulberry. We also looked at some other maps and some of the work that we did with the planning team back in the fall. And these seemed like if we're going to leave some recommendations for higher density, it would be available in some of these places. We also looked at the Grandemt, or gateway oriented to the park where we have people could use. So, we encouraged use of the park, encouraged people using the park to discover something new on Broadway as well. Yeah, and last time we met, the conservative, I think I was coming from the way in the end that we were reporting was, you know, by putting all the sets of day on the side of the park was also the racism of the park. year. Yeah, so that's something where the design standards would help promote views, and I try to concentrate on developing the one place or another and leave some view for it, instead of just having them all do something that folks described as being concerning. And the Korean Museum at Santa Church and the River Authority were reintegrally involved in the planning process to create those design standards. And so we'll certainly need to have some more discussion with them because Marie St. Germain is in here tonight, and Cole has had to leave a representative from Santa Atlanta, Bob a representative for Greenwich Park Conservancy. So that's the same Santa Biosciences here. This is just for reference, in 2011, this was what the map had. It had the highest density mixed-use tax in Greenwich Park, but it came along with the expectation that, hey, we're going to implement these design standards. That's going to address a lot of those potential issues with new corridors and making sure it's not quality. So the brand used to have that adopted, and the design standards didn't end up being codified for actually making a mistake about that. I think the narrative that we put in this is important as a land use, and I don't know if we spent enough time really calling what we wanted to say. So for example, if we're going to say yes to higher density, where in the beverage we say yes, the standards or the design or other things need to safeguard respect to neighborhood, respect to other things that are needed, I'm not sure if it's been in that time. I don't feel like it's been in that time looking at an area around the land. And I just wanted to put that on the table. Okay, thanks. There should be some architectural design issues that, in fact, when we do our taxing for degree investment, if we look at the investing of a particular property, they have to be certain standards so we're not going to build shacks on the property. Right, so to that point, the narrative that was just important is the map, and I think there needs to be some more. So it's a full package, and then we're not just recommending that half of it, just the map, get implemented to allow more density? Well, just the nuance of what we intended versus what happened, what we just explained, that there was intention to have standards in addition to this, but it didn't happen. I think creating this opportunity to really hone in on the narrative along with this moment. So, when we put out the draft plan, we will be able to sort of work on whether that reflects your intentions, or it's more of a kind of approach to how the property gets adopted rather than, you know, rocking right into an adoption process. So, do you have any other thoughts about these nodes of density or other considerations that we should take into account in terms of how this gets mapped? So, lots of members of Rio did go back? Yeah, so the mid-term recorders plan essentially record maps, because the recommended design standards would be in revisiting and provision of the Rio overlay. So, where the Rio overlay in some ways now doesn't recognize what the design standards would encourage. It doesn't get to the same nuance that the design recommendations from the mid-term recorders plan recommended. Right, and it's a concern, right? So, it is much more of a one tool than we are concerned that it would be an overlay on this. So, you should go back to what it is that you have here. Yeah. Yeah, Rio, it is a bit more of a look at what would come out of these recommendations. And it wouldn't be to add another layer on top of that to another zoning overlay. It would be a recognition or a placement. And that would have to come through the process. How do we go on to that for everyone? So, it would be part of the next step? So, it would be if the City Council adopts the mid-term plan, at some point thereafter, we would recommend to students possible that a process be initiated that would involve, we would recommend that the neighborhood association be involved. So, it would be the presence of the neighborhood association. There's also some discussion with CBS on the ground. And we were talking a little bit about, again, some of the historic buildings begin that are being brought back to being part of those, again, it's not my expertise, but I know that I love them. Are those the high-procals, the larger-procals that are moving in that challenge be challenged by the story or you should try to be challenged? So, there is some basis where it is, yeah, buildings that have some essential character to character that are in both the lighter purple and the darker purple. And that's the case throughout the town. And the idea is that even with a recommendation for more density in general, it doesn't mean that the building has to be replaced. And more density or more intense use like an office instead of a residence can even make preservation of a building more financially viable in some cases. And so, we're going to have a map that identifies not places where we're recommending historic, official historic designations, but we're calling on historic character pockets. But we're calling out places that have a fine urban rain, which is the essential character of the area, and that really should be a part of the future and not be replaced. That would contribute to the diversity of what's otherwise a higher density place. So, that's the case over a percent paper as well in some locations. Where you have bucks and going over to MEP, it looks like it's purple. And that is a historic home and site to go back to attendance. Just go up and go over to the green. And that right there is a historic building. So, that's actually one that just hit your mind. A one. A part of the right building next to it. Yeah. Which means preserving something and building it all around the city. So, you can't see it. Yeah, I appreciate that. I just think there's also, you know, a gap for use of something that's existing as well. So, again, the narrative that's impacted us today, the narrative around that. Make sure you know that. That's sort of essential to the narrative and the historic character. Yeah, we're very worth it. Another thing that should be destroyed probably is not alcohol in restaurants, but I call it the soot and chute zone in the center of the city. What is that? Yeah, if you're real careful about that. But I don't think you're going to get along. I don't think there are that many issues along that broadway. There's things starting to develop and are possibly going to get along. I mean, you're not allowed to have any license, but. So, places that serve dinner and alcohol can be, you know, they can make important contributions to the vibrancy of a place. And we haven't heard that those should be exclusively discouraged on public. But it sounds like you're speaking as much to sort of like the qualities of the character. And yeah, that's important. There's limitations to what a land use plan can do in that regard, other than allowing more density than just a standalone bar would encourage an owner to actually do something wrong and then just achieve something. A lot to do with community problem and wantability and all that stuff. Yeah, family friendlyness, quality of life. I think it's important to have a relationship between the city and commercial opportunity and given building and that building, commercial opportunity seems to allow itself to work like a city. Or as enabling more commercial experience between the occupying victims of properties. Yeah, so flexibility, sort of with the addition of what the character of the place is supposed to be. Let's advocate that it's already being used. Yeah, so we're going to take a look at the special thing about the building. Sorry, I didn't see your name on it very well. No, I was just saying that what I hope that any of it is there aren't that many vacant buildings in all of the plans, let's say, but it's where we're going to be. Yeah, there's not a lot of vacant buildings. There's a lot of space around buildings, a lot more space around buildings in terms of the personal experience that my group is at. I'll take your opportunity for more people to be able to use the area. There were, what you were saying, there might have been just a brown table discussion I had with some Pinkie Park residents in the fall, where they were talking about the number of bookstores and fine-grained retail uses along Broadway and just how they thought that it should all just be replaced, you know, that those kinds of things contribute uniqueness, that sort of building business in the spring, one of the things that's digressing in the life. So it's, because it takes a little bit of a burden. Yeah. If I were to go into the tech on a book, we had five books that were very great. Yeah. And two things, 19. Yeah, I'm just curious. We have something about them that happened in 2001. We've got the mixed use and low density mixed use categories, let me say three categories of density. So based on what we have in the proposed map, how does that compare? Yeah, so in the older, it wants existence, so this is the official language map until it changes. There's two categories of mixed use. And as Tim said, over here there's three. And so this general provides for the last to be a little bit more intentional about the ability to read mixed use. This category of mixed use, it didn't describe an actual number of traveling units. It was just for a little bit relative to this. But Gary. Okay, I'm just going to follow through with some additional ones here. I think there's low density as well, regular, that aren't used in that. Yeah, I love that. And then we have our four and our five. Oh yeah, so there's several other categories that we have used, categories that you can see, for example, in the neighborhoods of Vancouver, Clevenus, and talking about Broadway. It's maybe to a fault in terms of breaking off this conversation into discrete parts, and trying to focus on Broadway. And so I did include every other category. Like, this category is the only thing about commercial and non-residential, right? Um, it doesn't even. Oh. Yeah. I mean, non-residential, these are all non-residential. But is that what they see comparison? These would, those include a mix, a potential mix of residential and commercial. And these two, each of them, they could all have a mix in on the same property of residential and commercial uses. It's just that with neighborhood density is the amount of residential density is much harder than it is. And the only thing I would, you know, find, would be cautious about this moving forward and thinking about how, how we recognize what we're going to use now. It's that when you have residential density of a, like I said, what you would see in a town home development, like up to 18 units breaker, it might be harder to incentivize some of those more public benefits, like a plaza or a passageway or a public art or something like that, to sort of think that part of the development process of getting that from a developer. If there's tight limits on the amount that they can develop and make money on. But I think that until there's design standards, like we were talking about, that provides some assurance as to quality and have the real attentions and that those are incorporated into a code that, you know, maybe that's okay. I understand that's increasingly important. Who thoughts about this before we move on? So one section of the plan is going to be about amenities. And some of the things that we want to see that could actually explicitly improve quality of life and help make sure that growth that comes to the town is actually a good thing. It isn't, it isn't just the impacts. And so there's going to be a section that includes a map and lots of photos of tax describing the kind of things that we want to see. And I just want to essentially preview this for you. It's partly based on our discussion of the last week. It's a brief at the end. We broke into two routes and did some happy. But it's also based on discussion since the beginning of the planning process. And we have a scoreboard to do to revive this and make sure it's right because there's some things missing. But it describes places where there should be priority, pedestrian infrastructure improvements, like along Josephine, for example. There is an enhanced track, an enhanced treaty out of the landscape. So for example, on the map from our last meeting, Florence was identified and so does Reckardsburg Road. Josephine Street has been through all the processes and I think we need to update that. Enhanced shoreboard management and low impact development, that's a really hard deal to express on the map, but it should really be applied throughout an entire wash. It's not just like a one place to do a video during the right next to the river. So we've got to think about how we can make those recommendations. We talked about pedestrian safety and lighting. So for example, Crop Apart or Cypress Intercepts Main Street and a couple of locations along Reckardsburg Road. We talked about public art. There's a lot of or at least several public art opportunities from under-favorite conversations we have that need to be incorporated with this map, including some recommendations for public art up at Grand Broadway Street for being populated not by some other city departments. Trying to essentially reflect those recommendations. They allot very well with the gateways that we talked about where the River, that we're saying, Antonio River, back in its closest to Broadway at the Manki Park Green entrance to Rackett Ridge Park and the Hallbury, for example. We talked about how people can access and some places that many team members added to the map and we have a couple of activities that we need to reflect, including some existing opportunities to better connect people with healthy free access. There's a community garden at Manki Park. There's recommendations in the Manki Park-Daverton plan to create an enhanced trail with better landscaping through Manki Park to protect Rackett Ridge Park with sand and tub with a tentacle garden. But the plan was done before the Canary Garden was done. So, there's an opportunity that maybe add up to that recommendation and say, not only should we implement this plan for Manki Park improvements, but let's allow people, let's encourage people, to encounter a community garden as well. How to find some of the existing recommendations because they're just a good thing. Eric, is there an overview that you can do for the corridor plan? Is there an overview? You know, I mentioned, you know, you take the corridor plan sitting over here and its land use is very concerned, I think, for most of the neighborhoods. The asset corridors plan, yeah. Yeah, I'd be happy to bring a land use plan. I know, because that land use, it has that plan, the stations are happy and if you put one there and fill the plan in the fraud rate, for example, that land plan is going to Manki Park. Yeah, so the midtown plan is going to have the official future land use map. When it's, I don't know, when it's going to be caused by the opposite. So the asset corridors plan, the land use map, those were recommendations, but it was really, it was often this recommendation for optimizes to support the highest quality transit service and didn't have all of the balancing and broader consideration of all community values that we have had time to work into the midtown plan. And so it generally characterized the midtown draft future land use map as being a step back from, in most places, some of the densities that were recommended in the asset corridors plan. I'd be happy to bring it. We also talked about science and wayfinding and some social gathering and community events spaces, the preservation pockets that I was talking about. How to see a recommendation for a historic district, but just calling out, hey, there's places that have a sort of older, finer-ranked character that might be a couple of historic landmarks in the area. And this could be a really valuable addition to what's other about as a higher density response. And so we have to add several of these from community conversations that I had to the map. But one is here at Poplar, it's about Poplar, Julie, I think, south of Cyprus and east of San Pedro, I think. There's some law firms a couple of pounds away. And also, and the just, and the just. Yeah, so we're looking forward to being able to share this as part of the whole package of the whole plan. So you can see how it all fits together as soon as possible. And I'm adding more conversations about it, how it adds to the neighborhood priorities, the land use map, and the like. Yeah, but up and down south bed that I know, it's an ugly street to drive up and down through. And I got me to talk about, you know, adding, you know, slowing it down or adding more time to ease and all that sort of stuff. And I guess I know transportation wise, it's one of the big borders we're talking about. So is that the reason that the kind of shows up there? That is a mapping mistake that does not have tree canopy and the sort of green cloud running along. And San Pedro has clearly been a very, very, very good for me pedestrian safety, the pedestrian experience, which we're used to transit. I visited twice with residents of the Atrean-Kisi. And yeah, I mean, to hear them talk about, you know, being out of the heat on San Pedro, to visit a friend at a restaurant, of course, they're only for the bus or they get splashed by cars going by very quickly, telling the stories of what I heard there. And when you combine it with what seems to be direction towards incorporating high-quality transit, maybe something where there's buses every 15 minutes that don't have to wait, waiting long lines of traffic themselves. In no case for nature, for Mississippi. We also talked about it being maybe a kind of arts, how for some sort of culture. So there's been several conversations about potential parts like a state-designated parts of culture district, and we've talked about it. And other city departments, including the Y member, the McCoy here works for, I don't know if they're working with community members to think about where the stakeholders, where those might be. There's been a discussion about having one sector in our secondaries. We've had discussions with art studios and artists about having moment story into different experts for growth. There's how the case was throughout the city, for like, which to be the next one, to be designated an arts and culture district. And my understanding is that the arts and culture department is going through a process to think through how they can fairly and based on principles work with artists and stakeholders to designate those. But someone told me. Holding on to the concept of doing. Well, yeah, network history folks have already submitted to the State of Texas Arts Department. Also, I'll take on that included. Yeah, it's like a whole cluster of craft businesses and for us, and they're not on Facebook page actually. And so I think that the general trend of work that was started in some cases is conversations about more isolated places. The more community members join the conversation, the more people realize here is, you know, there's a theater that's at Mainer Springs Park. There's these craft businesses on for us. And let's let's include more. But that's something that we're going to try to speak to without getting ahead of ourselves and the work of other city partners. I think in terms of the culture department, I mean, there is evidence that there is a theater, there is a park that's available as parking. There's a lot of the largest. Okay. That's a good question. So we talked about, they actually talked about that. And at least a few planning team members expressed that they'd like to have time at the end of the meeting for citizens. They, you know, thought it was like, we have gotten through the conversation. This is the last topic I was hoping to discuss that we can move on to doing that. I don't want to necessarily set an expectation that this is something that we have at every planning team meeting or the Westside planning team meeting or the downtown planning team meeting. But yes, I want to be responsive. So, let me just run through these with you. You will allow me. So the next step, so we're going to place the draft plan online. And there's going to be online commenting functions on all the pages, including online apps. If you could click on online apps. We're going to be trying to meet with original neighborhood planning team members. And other people, as they have been doing, to talk more about the draft plan, how we can continue improving the neighborhood profile and priorities, understanding perspective on the older neighborhood plans, and the like. So as I said, I'm visiting neighborhood associations. And amidst that, continuing to really try to offer other opportunities as well, we're going to go out and try to encounter people and give them a chance to weigh in on what we're doing. If they're not, they don't go anywhere. So that's a great example. We'll have a third community meeting at least. We'll have other planning team meeting. And then we'll make changes to the plan in response to the public feedback we get and more discussions that we have together. And then after all that, it will take three months to make presentations to city council subcommittee for the comprehensive planning commission that ultimately asks for city council approval. That's a whole fairly big process. So as that being said, if we'd like to have an opportunity for neighborhood folks to speak, I think that it should be an opportunity where everybody would have a chance. And so how do you guys think that we should do that? Should there be to be asked people to roughly stick to a type of matter, just invite people to try to be brief and give each other a chance? I don't know how they want to be first. Why don't you raise your hands if you want to speak at any time? People to speak and try to keep your comments. George, I just thought I'd have to wait for them. Well, I'm here at the crime site. I've been a member of the Marine Department with the sub-sharings since it was formed in 1979. I was on the planning team for our original neighborhood plan. I was on the planning team for the current neighborhood conservation district, and I'm currently serving on the update of the neighborhood conservation district. For those of you who are from neighborhood associations, how many neighborhood associations have neighborhood plans? And what I'm hearing you say here is those plans are going more. We're trying to integrate a number of recommendations into the plan. We're trying to integrate a number of recommendations into those plans that are still in good properties into the next outline. Well, let me make a suggestion. I think our plan can still, in five areas, it's got probably 40 goals divided into those areas. Many of those have nothing to do with land use. And we spent a year doing the update on the plan. There were about 40 people from the neighborhood on the committee. We had meeting after meeting after meeting. And I don't think we want to do that again. So what I think we should do is keep the neighborhood plans in place and say to the extent there's a conflict between the area plan and the neighborhood plan, the area plan prevails. Because what we use these plans for, and I think all the neighborhoods do this, is number one, it's a lobbying tool. When something happens in the neighborhood, we can use this. We build a developer. We build a board of commissions. We build a city council. We either agree or don't agree with this. And it's in our neighborhood plan. And the other thing we use it for, I don't know how other neighborhoods do it, but our board members have a limited two-year terms. So we live some continuity on the board. We don't have people in there like me for 38 years. This is something that the neighborhood association and the board can go to and say, okay, have we ever dealt with this issue? What do we think about it in the past? These plans need to stay in place. So, my name is Joanie Brooks, and I'm a connection project. I agree totally with George Brice. So I will restate that. I guess I had a concern and I think I heard you say here about the land use maps, the quarter land use maps, the Broadway use maps. How does that all correlate with the town and you're standing in the town trunks. But I hear you say that. When the city council drops the big town plan and the land use map that's in it, that will be the official land use map for all the areas that are inside of the town. So you did say the trunks. So it will be beneficial. And who do I work with? I work with Butch for some of those areas on the map that I don't agree with, especially where close to where I live. Is that where I work with Butch on maps? Sort of a suggestion of a land use map, some of the darker purple that's up north, Hilton, Brandon and Broadway. So I would encourage you to work with Butch if that's how you feel more comfortable, but you're also welcome to continue emailing me directly as we have been in discussions or register concerns. If you'd like to do it, email me at Butch at the same time. It's a great way to make sure that we're both on the same page about what your concerns are. And I'm concerned about some of that purple. It's different if you look at the definition that it's different than the definition that we have from the commercial that's in our neighborhood plan. So it allows it to be much more dense Yeah, so that's the stuff that we can continue talking about and definitely have a bigger picture of Butch. One thing to keep in mind is that the future land use map for the city, the official future land use map was updated in 2011 and it replaced the land use map that was created in the making part of the plan for green areas adjacent to Broadway. So the properties around data support that are right past the Broadway are already designated next to use in the official future land use map. And I definitely would like to look at the actual details of it with you because of the differences in the categories and whether there's differences in the extent to which the next to use designation extends in distance from Broadway. I can't tell you that the draft recommendation that we talked about today and for discussion purposes, the fixed use category is actually kept close to the Broadway that might be existing at the future land use map. So it represents kind of pulling both into that to Broadway and less encroachment. But we can, let's continue talking about it. And the last one is how are you, how is traffic being addressed? For example, H-E-T and the high density, the dark purple with hill to bright. It's only two lanes on each side. And I know we can think that people are going to take the bus. I don't think that's going to happen much. So we're putting these high density, high high density places along Broadway. It's already a good balance. And so is there any kind of traffic setting that y'all are doing? I just don't understand that you're putting more in a place right there at H-E-T with a dark purple high density and we have problems with the hill to bright and backing up. All right. So our planning process for making the land use map doesn't include traffic studies. As of now, traffic studies are addressed in a later stage in the planning and development process. I know there's concern about, for example, that copy addressed with IDZ zoning. And that there's sort of a loophole. And that, you know, for example, Joe Bravo from Westport Alliance has talked about cumulative traffic impacts as opposed to just analyzing the case by case basis. So our plan, the scope of our plan is not just the same state of planning does not include traffic analysis. I think that land use map needs to happen. Thank you. Right next to me is Homer. I'm the government panel and I'm the new U.S. Board President of our Alliance. Unfortunately, we have not attended any of your meetings until today. We're trying to catch up. We're a late to the party. We would have to invite you to the board. So we're trying to get all the information from a lot of different entities, a lot of different organizations in San Antonio and one thing that I'm very talking about I think you have meetings that are but listening to all this information being part of government health we are in the middle of the area that is completely being combined by developers because of the pearl, because of Broadway including the fact that we're going to have a huge discussion tomorrow at HDRC with a proposed 1940s skyscraper by Party Street on the corner of Newland Broadway which means our traffic in our neighborhood will be affected by not only construction but the proposed 19-story skyscraper that will have to have access through our neighborhood through 35 going along Canterbury and Highway down to Alamo Street to get your Broadway turns into one lane traffic. And you're mentioning traffic? That's our traffic. We're meeting with it right now because of Alamo College around the corner from us. We have huge amount of traffic in our neighborhood with brown trucks 18 leaders. That's before we have a proposed 600 employees coming through our neighborhood coming through our probably four streets of neighborhood buildings all that development will affect our neighborhood. Not only is it our neighborhood but we do have a historic section of our neighborhood right in the middle that we're dealing with zoning right now. See with the full lots developers, they don't seem like the land use value in our neighborhood along has gone up over four votes. Sometimes first of our residents pay more than land use taxes than they're forage. I'm just asking because I'm not hearing everything right now because of the traffic I'm saying, we're late to the party You just said the traffic is not involved. I'm truly concerned I want a TPR about traffic so we can talk afterwards with people. But we don't know what the plan is because first thing that's all affected and the high density is horrible. Your concerns are mine because I'm the white sport. We can talk after. This is what we've been getting all along. Here just to that I hope with the later point that the cumulative traffic we are using this most higher density areas that we discussed on Can we find that information can you give us the information so that we know because I'm certainly receptive to their concerns and I think that I would like to know if we were to recommend changes of land use in that particular area where our current traffic impact is and that's what I see proposed if this land use goes into effect would also increase it by percentage would potentially have this impact off of the impact So that kind of analysis is not part of the scope of our contract and services that we're in. So it's not part of the budget but there is a document that may be from an official for the funding team so TCI just requested the NPO conduct this exact traffic study for almost the exact areas that you're looking at it's an $8 million contract and they're going through a different consultant and that's about a six month process so maybe a little too late but if you want to talk to Trisha and me about getting access to that study as it's being performed so to that point so it's something I'm not asking for anyone to do something or to go through an analysis process that's going to cost an additional funding that you're going to consult but certainly there has to be information available that we can get to the committee so that they have some idea of who has the potential impact. Talk with our consultants about an anti-target if there's some information that we can look at or a program that would be helpful and not just out of context but sort of related and not useful I also wanted to ask you have to be very mindful about the difference between land use and zoning because we're looking at land use and he's trying to load these 10 years so we're saying the future the future land use for this area, this is the state and 10 years is what it would look like so the zoning could stay the same for the next 10 years, it should properly decide that no, I'm good, I don't want to change anything and so if we attempt to do sort of a traffic study based upon this, it would never really truly reflect the difference between what's there now, what could happen what could change, what a developer may choose to do, things like that so that's why it's done exactly in time when something's actually going to happen but this is 10 years or 10 years is what it could be and transit can do well if they evolve to keep up with the traffic there was one done in person for somebody in the line that was down on Broadway last year or so I appreciate all of your comments I think you know what I mean so I'm very concerned about keeping pathways and I'm also just going to know what that potential traffic can be I think the ports are dressed out and it's important to say you know if we go with this kind of future land use that you could intentionally go to this because how will we make a decision on something that potentially could or could happen without a piece of information there's two things here just to speak together with those in what sort of a life, there's the current idea that it's constantly being maintained that as well as the land in the future yeah so not to mention that of course but so trying to figure out what's happening currently as well as what I might ask which is really good question it's not just one or the other so what there is after the plan is adopted and we're talking about traffic need in these other areas and Jason to see how they go since you are in their ways to synthesize you know a lot of those changes you might be having with any community members you don't have to identify with it again you share that information would be good for us because as you know Fredericks were saying they don't know what's going on Broadway we all know a little bit come here to represent and so I just want to be mindful and I want to respect and honor what people are saying or not saying yeah so I I'd like to try to share as much raw information as possible it does take the way we have it set up now is that we use that information and come up with the draft proposals to reflect what we heard writing like a memo about each neighborhood is it it's an aspect that involves another step of interpretation of the raw comments and they ask to be polished and look really good for the public and so there are some limitations in terms of the time and trade-offs with being able to visit another place to talk to people versus writing the summary but I appreciate that it would be helpful to have as much of that info as possible and then again I appreciate all these needs you're having and I was also glad to hear that we're going to some of those senior housing areas so if there's a way you can reach out to more people as you said the plan the preliminary plan will be online so a lot of seniors aren't online and so a lot of you reach that community and the working class are working for that and I know that it exists as well so it'll take extra work it'll take extra work and it's actually a fun opportunity to be a trader can you see in part few apartments have computer literacy classes where anyone can come explore on that page show you how to register above and that would be a really good opportunity to go and use the big top plan for which to show them how to use it as a research I think a lot of people do it right there and they're not going to do it face to face and they want to be able to batch put in and it's also the when we talk about walkability when we talk about it we're going back to what we used to have so people are exchanging and getting to know each other not being afraid of their neighbors so the elders also have something they unite this about all the time given all the concern about traffic particularly Broadway student who's not here and that's hers but they're thinking about and all their stuff we're not here we're just talking about what we've got on that board walking and passing on to do it thank you for coming to that thank you for your time thank you