 Hey everybody, have you heard the news? We are going to make your lives better today one hopes by talking about some tech We're gonna move we got good stuff. We're gonna move through this. Oh like a house of fire They're gonna be impressed with the efficiency. I believe like a Hassan Pfeffer They come away with anything today will be like I learned so much and I enjoyed it Okay Computer do do do you do love? Computer shrink See if I mean for those breaking Oh Delaware judge hands ex-uber CEO of victory in its lawsuit to get by benchmark. We haven't really been following that No What's his bucket? Yeah, Kalanick and that's that seems like very much a businessy story. I Mean it bears on on uber But the actual CEO who's actually gonna make decisions about the product that you use seems like a better place to focus our our energies Amazon will need to cut whole food prices more if they want to beat Walmart. Oh No, I I'm sorry, but that's that's being a little disingenuous. Oh Yeah, geez we're gonna we're whole foods wants to go toe-to-toe to Walmart on pricing Well, okay. Who's being disingenuous in your opinion? Well, I think the I think While they have bits of their market that overlap I don't think they're targeting the exact same income brackets or am I wrong with Amazon? No, no, I think you're right But Amazon did make a big deal about slashing prices and it was very much a lot of people took it as a veiled like Hey, we can have high quality and low prices unlike some people You know, it was taken it was taken as as directed at Walmart and Walmart and hold an Amazon are definitely in competition So I get why fortune would write this headline of like hey, those of you out there who are saying Amazon's taking on Walmart Keep in mind they'd have to cut prices a lot more if they want to compete with Walmart on price And I think that's a responsible headline They would also need to expand their product line and at whole. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, totally But and that's why I'm saying it's I don't think anything is disingenuous about the fortune story because People are saying oh Amazon's going after Walmart and in many ways they they are because Walmart's going after Amazon That I believe but I mean for for a whole let's say reposition Whole Foods This is just a taste of what you get on East meets West available at subbrilliant.com slash EMD Listen to two old guys complain Just like your father used to do with the bar or the pub Yeah coffee shop if you miss hearing two old guys complain about the world Check out our podcast at work So is this two guys at work sitting outside by the loading dock So mr. Johnson Mystery mr. Johnson. What are you? Are you busy? Oh, no, I'm totally ready. Okay. All right I you go. I knew you were doing a computer thing. I wasn't sure if you're done No, I'm all good. I had a fan thing that it appears to be sounds like a listener No, like actual hardware fan problem, but I'm good there. 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I did I am responsible for it though I have been charged to the weather in all of Southern California, and I apologize It's fun because that week was kind of a it was the sandwich meat between the two pieces of tech bread I my last show I did when I left was the daily tech news show and one of the first actually the second show I've done since I returned is the daily tech news show. So I'm happy to be here Oh, it's like you never left at least for daily Shell listeners Yeah, we've been having not I don't want to get too sidetracked on the weather, but we've been having intense heat on the inland part It's not been so bad out in my neighborhood, but Yeah, and the desert area is there's there's heat alerts and and cooling shelters and things like that going on so We are going to tell you a few things you should know now about tech Oh, and that's that man. You just heard was Roger Chang our producer. Hello, Roger. Hello everyone Acer announced its 13.5 inch switch 7 hybrid tablet The fanless 2-in-1 has an NVIDIA GeForce MX 150 graphics card It wake them stylus an 8th generation core i7 processor among other specs the switch 7 arrives in December for $1,699 in the US and a thousand nine hundred ninety nine euros in Europe and Nintendo is mad that they're gonna switch. I don't know probably sure that name will cause no confusion for anyone sure Google announced three third-party speakers with Google Assistant as part of the package anchors Zolo mojo arrives late October for 70 bucks and the Panasonic GA 10 and Mobvio tick home mini Did not get price prices or release dates, but those are coming as well Google Assistant will also integrate with some LG home appliances like maybe your fridge. Don't your vacuum cleaner. Yeah, like hey Google vacuum things. Thanks. Look, I don't know. I don't know which I use it for did do my laundry Uber said Tuesday cooperating with the US Department of Justice on a preliminary investigation into violation of the foreign corrupt Practices Act which forbids bribery of foreign officials some current and former employees have accused uber officials in India of using Bribery to obtain medical records Hmm, I'll bet you there's I Shouldn't say this out of hand, but I'll bet every big tech company has many little hidden stories about perhaps But there is a particular incident involving the rape of a writer Where uber officials got a hold of her medical records in an attempt to defend the company and it seems very Likely that bribery could have been involved in getting it Yeah, that's a little that's a little worse than greasing somebody's palm to get special server That's for Google searches or something Finally a Let's see. Oh, here we go and new uber CEO Dara, I'm not gonna say this last name, right? Cause we're sure I'm ready Churros Gahali Co's Roshahi Nailed it you didn't even say the letters that are in his name. No, I know that's what I do employees and sorry at an all-hands meeting that uber could go public in 18 to 36 months. Yeah, so this guy in inheriting this company that has all of these problems the bribery Investigation not not even the worst of them actually when you think about it all kinds of court cases all kinds of pressures all kinds of protests And he told employees. Hey, I'm here. I'm ready. I'm excited. Let's do this Maybe we'll leave an IPO in the next couple years. Sure. Well, I'm sure that potential investors want to hear that The the company it's actually kind of weird to me that they've gone as long as they have without going public I know there have been reasons and and arguments as to why they haven't or why they shouldn't or should or whatever But this seems like a nice fresh approach to your future. So yeah, it's a I mean It's a cheap way to motivate but a good way to motivate to say hey all those stock options You're sitting on they'll be worth something just just hang in there and stay with us Amazon and Microsoft are integrating their voice assistants. So you can ask one to open the other They created a skill on each other's platform Amazon voice service users can tell Cortana Hey access office products like my calendar my email my outlook and Cortana users can ask her to Control home devices or do some shopping through Amazon and when I say her I mean Al Exa you could say to Cortana open Exa and Tell her to turn on the living room lights or something like that New York Times says the partnership was formed back in May Amazon's Jeff Bezos and Microsoft Sachin and Della both said they would welcome cooperation with Apple and Google The updated assistance will be available later this year So if you go try to talk to Cortana through your Amazon Echo today, it won't work yet. Okay, two things one I just say Al Franken instead of the Al My friends have a problem. Secondly, what do you think? I mean, I don't know if we want to talk percentage chance here But what do you think the chances are that Apple in particular would even be interested in this? I think Google probably would they tend to like less than 1% for Apple. It's just not the way they do things I'm curious whether Google would interoperate because sometimes they're very open with platforms like that They are also very competitive with Apple in this space or I'm sorry with Amazon in this space right now So I am I'd call that close to 50-50. Hmm. Yeah, I would that's probably about right I mean, we were talking earlier and I think I still think this way I love the idea that there could be some common ground with these voice assistants that these AI Assistants that we're having integrated into our cars our homes our devices Kind of across our lives could have more interoperability without us having to be brand You know branding ourselves into a corner would be really nice So I you know again holding out very little hope that Apple will make it that open But I used to have that little kind of hope for iPhone features such as letting me do quick replies from the home screen or Being able to tie into their applications from other applications and all that stuff happened Maybe a little slow, but it did so I'm not going to completely lose hope in that But I really like the idea that the things I love about each of these platforms could still in some way work together It reminds me of Amazon's take on the Kindle where they could have said well We're only going to allow you to read ebooks if you buy a Kindle device But instead they put Kindle apps on everything they could get their hands on and it became the dominant ebook seller This is them saying hey, why wouldn't we work with Cortana where? We would have a difficult time getting Microsoft to allow us to access office, but it's already there Let's just access Cortana then we can access everything Cortana has Cortana is trying to get uptake beyond Windows So this allows people to say hey, I can use my Amazon echo to access Cortana. That's great I will access Cortana more often. So I see why they will do it I don't know that Google is going to see the big advantage of Interoperating but man, I wish they would because I do love the idea of not having to necessarily commit to one Universe to be able to get the best of all of them. It's kind of what Bezos said He's like they're all have access to different data sets and are better at different things That's why they want to do this. It is a little weird to have to think about okay Where's my email? Is that with Cortana? Is that with Google or is that with Amazon and whom I talking to right now? It would be nice if you could get rid of those barriers as well But yeah, no no downside to Microsoft as far as I'm concerned. They lag behind certainly with Cortana There's an opportunity here to to push that out. It also fits with their current mode of putting their services and products on many platforms and I think it's it's gonna be really Good for them. So we'll see Apple will probably never do anything Bloomberg's Mark Gurman has sources who provided information and images of a new iPhone that is all screen and has no home button a Thin software bar at the bottom of the screen and gesture controls will replace the home button functions This also appears to be a steel band around the side with small antenna cuts around the corners Aside from those kinds of structural things the big thing here would be potentially Obviously full, you know full screen coverage, but also gesture control. I'm still totally unsure about that No, this would also possibly imply facial recognition for security layers Yeah, there's been a lot of talk about that being in there as well. They could be could be put in touch ID on the back Potentially that's that's another thing that some people have said they expect to happen Some people said there just won't be touch ID on this model at all Again, we are dealing in the world of hey, this guy Mark Gurman sure has really good sources and a good track record So let's take it seriously, but not Apple has announced and I like to draw that line very firmly This is not for sure, but it does seem like it might happen And I'm fine with it I've have you ever had a home button break on an iOS device. I never have I had it happen on my On my iPad one time I think the second iPad I ever had and Somebody said well, you know instead of taking it in and trying to get it fixed It was it was near the time when they were gonna upgrade iPads and I was like I don't know if I want to bother taking it in and and paying to get it fixed because I didn't have Apple care on it When I'm just gonna replace it soon. I like just just turn on gesture controls And so it was an accessibility option, which anybody who uses the accessibility already knew like hey You can use gesture controls. They're great And I just started doing that to close apps and swipe between apps now I've stopped doing it Since touch ID came back to the iPad but for if we're iPad for a long time on my iPad after that I was using gesture controls So it works really well and once you get in the groove of it it You don't even notice that you're not using home But also we're we may see this is one of my problems with the there's not always parity between the phones and the iPads or between tablets and phones that touch ID button on an iPad even the latest iPad is not the Weird not actual clicking completely haptic One that is on the phone currently so you could potentially break the one on an iPad But the one on the phone is this more solid state affair Which I really like but if they're about to go full screen unless they move that thing around at the back We're gonna skip a whole generation of that cool non breakable non moving part Feature being available on other devices outside of well, maybe they may or may not do this on the iPad, right? Yeah, that's a good point So I don't know this feels like a turning a bit of a turning point. We know when what 13 days Maybe Apple also has not announced an announcement So the September 12th date that's kicking around seems reliable, but it's not official so Hang in there Samsung announced the gear sport smart watch which runs ties in that means it works on iOS and Android It's waterproof up to 50 meters so it can do things like record your swimming session has 12 months free access to the under armor apps Which apparently are a great suite of different fitness apps Continuous heart rate monitor the usual fitness features It's 42.9 millimeters by 44.6 and 11.6 millimeters thick has a 1.23 inch circular AMOLED display 4 gigabytes of storage 768 megabytes of RAM Bluetooth 4.2 NFC GPS perometer and a 300 milliamp hour battery Now they did not announce a price so that makes a whole big difference But it will be coming out in the holidays Samsung did announce a price and release date for the fitness tracker Gear Fit 2 Pro That one has a nice looking screen as well and is available in black and red for pre-order Thursday at 199 bucks. I'm gonna bet 349 to 399 complete guess, but Smart a smart watch with those particular specs. I think you'd go any lower than that You might be a little on the high end, but I think that's pretty close Yeah, something something just just just higher than 299 and that's why I'm thinking 349 something like 9 to 5 Google says that they think it will sell for around $250 based on the fit to pros price. Wow, see that seems low Well, I haven't looked at the fit to prospects in a while So maybe they're better than I think but the 90 1.99 only $50 difference is way too low to me But but who knows time will tell so ties in first of all which A couple of different reviewers that are not reviewers I guess but a couple people who wrote this up for the verge and 9 to 5 Google and others said yeah I kind of like the ties an operating system better than Android wear anyway And that that means that it's platform agnostic really Although you can use an Android watch with iOS as well. So that's it's not like it's a differentiating differentiating feature But who knew ties and would still continue to Survive well in a weird way. I kind of hope I don't know I can't hope it does more than survive I'd like the idea of the watch is being less She-horned into their respective OSes. Why does it have to be iOS? Why does it have to be Android? Why can't we come up with something that's perfectly suited for? The watch and and and maybe that does come from some third-party open source. Who knows but yeah Good job ties in if you and if you haven't caught on to the trend yet by listening to DTNS or watching the EFAN news All the watches are focusing on fitness now. That is everybody has recalibrated and said well if we're gonna win the wearable race We have to be fitness oriented. Yeah, I think that that's the smart thing The company makes the essential phone. We talked about this when I was here a week ago Sent an email out to some customers Tuesday night requesting a copy of a driver's license to verify their address Did you get one of these by the way? No, I did not Somehow the email was sent to all customers as a group email through Zendesk That meant that people are when people replied with a picture of the driver's license It went to everybody else in the original email had been sent to Essentials looking into the matter and seems to have shut down the group email list Essential customers were charged for pre-orders last week, but are still awaiting their shipment. That is a rookie move, man Wow Not real encouraged to buy essential right now I like to give new companies the benefit of the doubt, but this is a this is a bad one This is this is not one that you get let off the hook for you. You don't first of all It's questionable why they need driver's license identification, but a lot of times for fraud prevention. This happens It's really bad if you're asking for that sort of thing to not provide a secure way to do it And not only not provide a secure way to do it but in Unintentionally, we assume provide an extraordinarily insecure way to do it Which is your email will now go to everyone and if you don't know the way Zendesk works, you wouldn't know that It's a Zendesk setting that says when you receive an email back to this thread send it to everybody else who got that thread It's not like you're replying to all it just automatically does it There was nothing that the customer could have done about this or would have expected it to do it this way so this is horrible and Essential is being very mum about it because I bet essentially isn't quite sure why it happened and they're trying to track that down But combine that with the fact that you know, I bought one of these phones They've taken my money and they said it would ship within a week and it's about a week now And I haven't heard squat about my phone actually arriving. It's not looking good. No all of those things are bad, but moreover I Don't think I would have done it like if I had gotten this email requesting a picture of my yeah I think I just say uh-uh you don't get that like this. I've been through enough security stuff. I know how You know other companies do this. This is not a thing you need. There's other ways to get it Yeah, that's just seems so strange and then to come completely blow that on the other end of it is really weird So a lot of the original reporting on this said it was a phishing scam because it really looked like a phishing scam That was before the whole reply to all thing got got added to it So you don't want your official stuff to feel like a phishing scam. That's no definitely not especially when you're a new company like that Pacemakers from a company called Abbott have been recalled by the US FDA Because of software vulnerabilities the vulnerabilities would allow an attacker to do things like drain the battery or even change the programmed settings Which include, you know, the beats of your heart the rhythm of your heart rate That's not a good thing. So you want to get that patched right away a firmware update to the patch However, cannot be done over the air. It requires you to visit your doctor You only have to spend, you know less than 10 minutes, but you have to make an appointment You have to sit in the writing room get called in they plug it in they update your pacemaker the accent Anthem accent MRI accent ST assurity and allure Models are all affected. St. Jude's medical used to make a lot of these. They were bought by Abbott Pacemakers manufactured from August 28th will already contain the security patch So if you just bought one you wouldn't have to worry about it, but anything bought before that you should you should call your doctor So firmware on your pacemaker I mean when I have firmware updates to a device like I've got a charge to from Fitbit here That thing has to shut down there's like a long Yeah, so obviously this is why they're going into doctors, but that's freaky man. Yeah, that's part of it, too It's you know a very small chance that your pacemaker will be bricked in the firmware update, but that's a chance I mean anybody who's ever bricked a device knows any update can go wrong for any reason Which is another reason to come into the doctor and in fact the FDA is saying that the doctor should consult with the patient about Whether this is worth the risk Because some some patients might not survive their pacemaker shutting down in which case then what do you do? Do you just leave your your firmware vulnerable and hope nobody attacks? I mean there's no there's no Evidence that this has ever been done in the wild. It's just a vulnerability that was discovered and they want to patch it up Yeah, I hate everything about this because I what I think it probably means is we've got to get to a place Where the technology allows us to update these kinds of especially bio med things like this in a way That's more intelligent and less rebooty and less I don't know the exact process that these used to update these things But get to a point where you always expect there to be vulnerabilities and come up with the best possible Over-the-air real-time way of updating things without having to shut things down without having to reboot them. It probably means new areas of Smart AI tech who know I don't know what it is, but whatever that is that's got to be a priority for these guys Otherwise, we're just gonna have more and more devices like this and it's gonna be stints And it's yeah, you know not just pacemakers and things that you know people rely on to live And if they're suddenly vulnerable or and or have to go through this process of possibly bricking themselves That's just bananas Update my heart say I'm secure again Hey folks if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to Daily Tech headlines You can find it at Daily Tech headlines.com on the Amazon Echo on the Google home and in the anchor app at anchor.fm So we're gonna actually have a part 2 to the discussion that Patrick and I had yesterday about augmented reality as More of these Windows mixed reality headsets get announced Del announced theirs earlier in the week and now Asus has announced its headset It has a 3d polygon shell an adjustable headband very similar to what the PlayStation VR has Distributes that weight across the head and it also contains quick drying antibacterial materials Which I know is something that appeals to you Scott as someone who is afraid of pink eye. Well, let's put it this way I'm not necessarily afraid of pink eye. I am annoyed that pink eye ever has to be an issue and so I Want what I want is a world where VR and AR and that kind of stuff can be more of our public life I'm part of that means Going to a mall and having an entire place dedicated to VR and AR Experiences and be able to go in there and be confident that the thing you're putting on your head Doesn't have some kids gombu in it. So I love this idea. I like that. They're thinking this way. Obviously. I must not be alone in this or else Why would they even make this a feature? So, yeah, well done Asus for being really as far as I know the first headset to implicitly have Quote-unquote technology that sort of covers that stuff. So that's good. Yeah, and I'll be honest 400 what is it? Let me I lost my place here for a second 449 euros. They haven't given a US price yet, but in Europe it'll cost 449 euros So this is at the upper end of expense of expensive for these windows mixed reality headsets Which are supposed to be 299 to 399 now This one comes with bundled controllers But if you compare that to del's visor windows mixed reality headset that was announced on monday with the bundled controllers That one's 459 dollars. So either the us price is going to be the same as the euro price Which usually isn't the case or this one's going to be a little more expensive and It's it's a it's a piece as roger and I kind of talked about on monday, too It's a piece of this landscape where You have cardboard on one end And then you have gear vr and daydream vr and now windows mixed reality headsets And then right next to them at the price point after the the drops is vive An oculus rift and then you got these augmented reality devices that are basically based on phones Coming to your phone and saying hey, you could just hold up your phone and look around Where do where do you think vr fits in because asus made a big deal about how this isn't just for games This is this is also to be used in the workplace and I I think We might be looking at a situation where vr and ar Actually start taking off more in enterprise than they do as a game machine. No, I tend to agree. Also. I think you're going to sell This device is not going to appeal to gamers as much because it doesn't have the focus that say the vibe or the oculus have Or has and I and I feel like that that's an advantage of those devices But also a disadvantage if you are in the market for Uh a gaming experience vr experience or even ar experience you look at devices That are built for take advantage of and otherwise support the gaming side of it Those this works with steam does that help that does help that helps a lot Uh, but fidelity matters. Um, you know when people are making their choice between say a playstation vr and a vive There's not only a big price difference, but there is a you know Equality difference. There's a different kind of fidelity you expect. Yeah versus I mean the sasus one has a 90 hertz refresh rate 1440 by 1440 panels It's pretty strong. Honestly. I'm I I think it looks good The controller is on a little fishy about and I don't know actually, you know why there's something Plasticy and angular about them that I don't like which could be nothing and they may be wonderful. I don't know um, but Regardless, one of the one of the things that is interesting is it's like microsoft is doing what microsoft always does They've built a platform And now that platform is going out to the oems and the oems have had a year or whatever to to work on their products And now we're seeing the likes of del and asus come out with these things That to me is the most exciting part about this Because i'm not necessarily certain these are going to be great headsets at launch and that their second or third iterations won't be Much better than these first iterations. What i'm excited about is this is a much broader base a much broader acceptance of a new idea Um, you could say well, what if it's like netbooks and it kind of fizzles or the original tablets in 2003 with giant fans in them And those kind of fizzle and Oshiba and everybody else, you know, I had these great ideas of making tablets and And so on but I think that when these things work And the platform's a strong one. It provides a way for these other manufacturers You know big ones like del and asus and everybody else to make Devices within that platform that means we're headed towards standardization It means that we're heading toward larger acceptance and it means lots more use cases than just I want to play fallout 4 in vr Yeah, well, especially I mean the other thing to think about I know it's only 60 frames per second when you're hooking it up to the Lower powered machines, but again if you want to use it in the workplace and you're not doing super high frame rate stuff Uh, maybe that's great. Maybe that allows you to say, oh, you know, we can hook things up to some work stations We already have so there's a lot of flexibility there. You're right. Well said Plus 60 frames per second is basically all the eye can really perceive So anything beyond that is just like bragging points when people do it's also nausea reduction when it's on 16 That's true. The less you can get the better obviously the more rather the more frames per second the better But you know, if somebody's getting 180 frames per second in quake, they're just showing off They really can't tell in this case. It's going to be similar to that. I I just want to see If the if if the promise of mixed reality is all it's cracked up to be Yeah, we've seen lots and lots about vr and lots and lots about ar but these are attempts to cross that That bridge will it become jack of too many trades or will it truly be the multifunction device we want? And we'll need to get our hands on some to see and I don't think that price is that bad I mean people are saying it's on the high side, but it's right there with what you'd expect from So you're saying mixed reality or mixed results Ah very well said more like mixed vegetables Which one is the peas? All right, let's get to our messages of the day before we're out of here Russell just emailed in like while we were doing the show From houston. He said tom and crew wanted to give you an update on the situation here The city suffered unthinkable damage getting more than 40 inches of rain Over 20 trillion gallons of water people are stranded the shelters are filling up It'll be a while before the city recovers and we are afraid of that That said the efforts of the first responders and general citizens has been nothing short of heroic The community has drawn together to help those in need and the spirit of volunteerism is truly amazing Space city will not be brought down by harvey. We will prevail Uh, thank you Russell for for checking in we're glad you're safe and that you're doing okay And our heart goes out to everybody affected in houston by this Yeah, indeed. I was the only other thing I would say here is I think they They houston was really instrumental in helping people with katrina when it came to people Flooding out of louisiana out of parts of mississippi and trying to find a place to stay And houston really opened their doors for that So I I guess i'm happy that it's not surprising to see that they've got that same spirit during this mess because it is So uh, so stay safe houston stay safe louisiana and uh, and don't forget, uh, the horrible flooding that's been happening in northern india As well, uh, even more lives lost there and that's been ongoing So natural disasters don't respect borders unfortunately and and and we all Respect that and if there is something you can do to make a difference consider doing that All right, uh, I heard you guys mentioned that they're that three hills mine And I thought I could shed some light on why alberta is so favorable for high electrical demand projects like big server farms This is reed from smoky calgary says i'm a petroleum engineer here and I deal with it daily Alberta produces a large amount of oil and gas throughout the whole province The bulk of this oil is heavier and typically comes with what we call solution gas The natural gas leaving the oil pushes it into our wells So we have to produce gas to make the oil even when gas has little to no value This means everyone around here has an abundance of gas without much reason to build natural gas pipelines to sell it Typically it'd just be vented or flared which is basically wasted The industry is now under a lot of pressure to use this gas rather than put more co2 in the air for no benefit And one of the easiest ways is to burn it in a generator and make power Unfortunately, everyone is doing this to the point where power prices are very low or in most cases now There's no room for more generators demand has been met and then some So if you're looking for a place likely to have cheap power for years to come Head on up here. We'd love to have you and ps if anybody in the audience had any great tech ideas to help us Use this extra natural gas up at remote sites myself and many others would be all ears We sometimes give it away for free if we can find someone to take it Oh That's and then he sent along a link Uh that where you can get a live view of alberta's current power demand and generation status divided out between the different types Well, look at that. Yeah, well done canada. I I mean, I don't know whatever happened to natural gas car conversions But maybe there's something there, you know, yeah The problem is the tanks To hold the gas are kind of heavy and it's not that they're more expensive It's an easy conversion because for most gas engine powered cars It's not that much to ever smooth fuel of a liquid fuel And then natural gas because they both get atomized at the injector Uh, but it's just, you know, the the facilities infrastructure isn't there You got to find somewhere to put a giant, you know leakproof tank On a car because you'll have to you have to put the natural gas under a huge amount of pressure to store it effectively in your car and For a lot of people, I mean the trade-off wasn't there They did it for some fleet cars like cities and cabs Yeah, it's too bad. It's not uh propane. You could uh the barbecue world would love canada, man Jeff s posted on our blog uh to thank everyone for their suggestions for coding software and other resources He says we decided scratch junior was a great introduction And she's already creating characters and storylines with it Of course, she being his five-year-old the puzzle block symbols is a very easy to understand System linking the actions together for her characters. Her current favorite is the voice recorder blocks Co-worker also suggested code.org is another resource. I downloaded unity and will work on exploring it So when she wants to take game design to the next level I'll have some familiarity with the subject matter and can give guidance Thanks again to everyone who responded to this call for help Jeff Man the tools the kids have today. It's embarrassing kid. We were just dirty kids sitting in our diapers in the dirt with a stick And then finally nick wrote in now we we covered this on the post show yesterday But if you only listen to the main show uh in reply to patrick saying 4k is a higher resolution to uhd He might be kind of confusing the fact that there are three standards I don't think he was confusing it. I think because when we talked about it afterwards He said yes, that's exactly what he meant the actual 4k resolution was invented for the cinema And is a real resolution of 40 96 by 2016 Exactly two times the height than width of 2k resolution and is referred to as either dci 4k or just 4k The term was co-opted by consumers wanting 4k in their homes and the tv manufacturers went along with it But made the resolution 38 40 by 21 60, which is exactly two times the height than width of 1080p It would be correctly called 21 60p or uhd 1 depending on the features But almost nobody calls it that unfortunately and therefore causes confusion between the real 4k spec 21 60p and uhd Kind of like how you americans call all tissues Kleenex even though Kleenex is a particular tissue 4k has been similarly Genericized the correct nonmarketing way to refer to them would be cinema resolution is 4k tv resolution without hdr And wide color is 21 60p and tv resolution with hdr and wide color is uhd And yes 4k ultra hd is marketing that tries to encapsulate all the buzzwords I learned a lot about this by listening to scott wilkinson on twits home theater geeks podcast So scott's a great resource for that kind of thing. You should absolutely check that out if you're so inclined Yeah, my monitor i got for gaming and 4k was actually This 21 60p solution the double the height And width of 1080p and that's what my television my 4k television is the same thing Yeah, I think that's pretty common now um in terms of some of the you know the stuff we have at home But yeah, this stuff can get confusing and when they layer in that marketing level It just makes everyone have a little more well a little more natural gas. Tom. Well. Yeah, i'm kidding Hey, thank you scott johnson for uh being here as always what you got going on to tell people about Oh, i'm just getting back into the groove. 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I have an injury in my rotator cuff Oh, wow from his old baseball days Yeah So if i'm not careful and I do too much that way hurts feel that, huh? Not like that's not like, um Veronica's though, right hers was no because mine's not swollen. So my doctor's like, I don't think you'll need any surgery She's like, let's just do some physical therapy on it and see if we can get it back in shape Uh, yes, uh, Veronica's old gymnastics injury You're all podcasting injury, you know, I'm a little sad that nobody in the show bot has decided to use uh, where's that term in the email? um There it is The the Kleenex is a particular tissue would have totally been a pick for me Well, we have uh update my heart Update my heart Hey, google vacuum things Tom's control south southern california weather scott doesn't hold it against him Essentially, we messed up cortana opens ai Al Al x uh Cortana tells alex a alex a i like alex a to tell cortana to tell You know what screw those There's no place like we could safely put them in a headline. We just get to say about loud. That's yeah My head tells me to update the firmware, but my heart says no. Oh, by the way somebody who has echo pause Set as their wake word was complaining because we that set it off. I'm like, well, I'm gonna say that I'm sorry. That's why you say al franken Yeah, uh, I really like don't break my heart, but that's my own personal don't break my heart Pretty good. Good one. That's a good one. That is really good update my heart or don't break my heart of my favorite so far Platform agnostic Have a broken heart. We have a firmware update for that Uh, essentially, oh wait Don't break my heart my achy brickey. I remember to fix broken heart pacemaker That was a good one silver blade There's a lot of pacemaker ones Mm-hmm Isis and the mixed vegetables of VR Windows mixed vegetables Tom almost hurt himself It's one of them in here Don't break my heart my achy brickey heart don't break my heart Yeah, all right. Just just don't break my heart though as much as I like the achy achy brickey It's shorter. All right That's pretty good Scott Johnson how nice job. Good. Well done Well, it was so good. I almost swallowed my gum wallored it And I'd already put the pacemaker thing in the show description. So That makes it easy All right Good good work team Yes, well done efficient We've got the gas gas knowledge from roger Right at the VR insight from scott gas knowledge. I read some things After you the very spicy meal so filled with gas knowledge Yeah, I mean this is a silly one, but it made me laugh chum donkey is like I generate a bunch of natural gas after eating taco bell You know taco balls one of those things that kind of sounds cool and then when I eat it, it's again You say that a lot so it still sounds cool. You're not learning these mistakes I I'm sorry. You know what, you know people fall for the same broken relationships one after another I have an issue. You have a broken relationship with taco bell. Is that what you're saying? Yes You have a toxic relationship with taco bell. There's something there's something almost Uh seductive about taco bell, and I don't know you know, she's bad for you roger But you just keep going back and ordering her deluxe supremes Yeah, like the kfc doesn't have that like kfca you're like, oh, it's kind of gross Not to not to say that all kfc I find the things I order from taco bell to be perfectly fine I stick to the the chicken breast And and basically just you know flour tortillas lettuce tomato keep it pretty simple and it's not bad at all Oh I I'm one of the I really like that ground beef is but that'll get you every time That those loco the tacos made of the doritoshell. Oh, yeah. No now you're now you're in crazy land Oh man, I I can taste it now Because a a chicken soft taco with the may not not out of the shredded meat, but out of the breast chunks Those are Actually made of food I'm looking at you. It's like, okay They're being a food ride. You know what I'm saying like the dorito thing like who knows what it's and that's not that's not all food in there No, it's possibly lots of coloring and msg, but ah the msg makes it taste so yummy I don't know that they use msg at Taco Bell. I don't want to I know I was used to Doritoships, so I assume If they use the they might not they might decide not to in there Maybe Hard to say Well msg's are naturally occurring compounded mushrooms. So if you like mushrooms, you're getting an msg anyway Although not as much Why Taco Bell isn't telling you about their ingredients right under a link to ingredients for all Taco Bell items from taco bell Some some study I just saw we did on tms I don't know how reliable it is says that they're al fresco menu made them the most healthy fast food restaurant in america Taco Bell. Yeah. Yeah, I buy it the the the bowls and stuff Yeah, I suppose that stuff's better than any but nobody else can boast the nutritional content or something of a fat for among fast food restaurants Yeah, it's a very yeah very specific group. But right But that included a pretty big group like it's like saying like, you know, this is the best You know gas or a public bathroom station that you'll find on the gas station I think it's better than that. I think I really do Where is there they have vegetarian? I don't see their talk. What's this taco fresco? I've never seen it It's the cantina menu Where they use like fresh fresh vegetables Low salt Dollar cravings. I usually just go straight to the dollar cravings. Well, there you go That's that's like the worst stuff for you on the menu probably Well, you tell you tell me a dollar for a beefy mini case of dig is wrong If that's wrong, I don't want to be right Send a bunch of lights. Oh, I love their empanada pies, which are basically just pies Those are also not good for you I don't know what to tell you Seems to me that some of the responsibility for this lies in the orderer, not just the restaurant Yeah, the customer. I've been I've been brainwashed by a televised chihuahua telling me to make it I haven't had the chihuahua in a decade a decade. Well, I'll show you how how much tv I've watched since that time I watched a lot of Netflix. That brainwashing really stuck I don't know what it is And you know what even even burger places don't make me go crazy like that About Taco Bell Just sounds really good My wife like go talk about we go there. It's like, oh this is gross Oh, we do the same thing but I I tend to believe you have healthier options if you can take them At Taco Bell and then what scott was saying back me up on that, which is good to know. Yeah It's supposed to be good I never and everyone always says oh, I spent all day in the bathroom if you need to talk now Depends on what you order Yeah, there are certain things you can order that will definitely have that effect on you Yeah, if you eat like eight bean burritos, then that's all you man Don't eat the beans I just remember alex lindsey's email to tom and I don't eat the beans Ever since then I never eat the beans. Let me tell you why you shouldn't eat the uh, yeah See exactly It's not a pleasant. I mean alex bent. Well, just I know but it was not a pleasant story No, no, it wasn't It kind of remind not that it's um Like it's it's That's such a weird thing their menus Are both incredibly expansive but incredibly confusing Like the decision my decision tree gets that's one of the reasons I like in and out Yeah, you just have burgers fries shake done Give me cow sand with cheese. There's there's complexity It's off menu where you can be like, hey, put some onions or do this or put it in a rapid lettuce. Whatever secret menu They should do something like that for taco bell or tacos or talk about does have a secret menu Because pretty much anything that they used to make they've still got the ingredients for and the recipes back there Meximal used to be off the menu for years and you could still order it All right, scott. What's taking up all your attention there? What are you reading? Uh an email from my mother Now that's much less controversial than I was expecting Yeah, it's not very controversial and also a really good reason to be paying attention. I'm gonna tell her Hey mom, I'll have to think about this and get back to her Tell her we're we're we're wrapped up here. So uh don't Don't blow off your mom on our account. 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