 On what we've been able to do with the if you take a look at what we've done in terms of goggles and masks and gowns and everything else and in particular ventilators We're now making ventilators all over the world thousands and thousands a month Distributing them all over the world. It will go away and as I say we're rounding the turn. We're rounding the corner It's going away. Okay former vice president Biden to you How would you lead the country out of this crisis? You have two minutes uninterrupted 220,000 Americans dead You hear nothing else. I say tonight hear this Anyone who's responsible for not taking control In fact not saying I'm I take no responsibility initially Anyone who's responsible for that many deaths should not remain as president of the United States of America We're in a situation where there are a thousand deaths a day now a thousand deaths a day and there are over 70,000 new cases per day Compared to what's going on in Europe as the New England Medical Journal said they're starting from a very low rate We're starting from a very high rate. The expectation is we'll have another 200,000 Americans dead be time between now and the end of the year If we just wore these masks the president's own advisors have told them we could save a hundred thousand lives And we're in a circumstance where the president thus far and still has no plan No comprehensive plan what I would do is make sure we have Everyone encouraged to wear a mask all the time I would make sure we move in the direction of rapid testing investing in rapid testing I would make sure that we set up national standards as to how to open up Schools and open up businesses so they can be safe and give them the wherewithal the financial resources to be able to do that We're in a situation now Where the New England Medical Journal one of the serious most serious journals in the in the whole world Said for the first time ever that this the way this president has responded to this crisis has been absolutely tragic And so folks I will take care of this I will end this I will make sure we have a plan President Trump, I'd like to follow up with you and your comments. You talked about taking a therapeutic I assume you're referencing Regeneron you also said a vaccine will be coming within weeks Yes, is that a guarantee is no it's not a guarantee But it will be by the end of the year, but I think it has a good chance There are two companies I think within a matter of weeks and it will be distributed very quickly Can you tell us which companies? Johnson and Johnson is doing very well Moderna is doing very well Pfizer is doing very well and we have numerous others Then we also have others that we're working on very closely with other countries in particular Europe Let me follow up with you and because this is new information you have said a vaccine is coming soon within weeks Now your own officials say it could take well into 2021 at the earliest for enough Americans to get vaccinated And even then they say the country will be wearing masks and distancing into 2022 Is your timeline realistic? No, I think my timeline is going to be more accurate I don't know that they're counting on the military the way I do But we have our generals lined up one in particular. That's the head of logistics And this is a very easy distribution for him He's ready to go as soon as we have the vaccine and we expect to have 100 million vials as soon as we have the vaccine He's ready to go Vice president biden your reaction and just 40 percent of americans say they would definitely agree to take a coronavirus vaccine If it was approved by the government, what steps would you take to give americans confidence in a vaccine if it were approved? Make sure it's totally transparent Have the scientists of the world see it know it look at it go through all the processes and by the way He's this is the same fellow told you this is going to end by easter last time This is the same fellow who told you that don't worry. We're going to end this by the summer We're about to go into a dark winter a dark winter And he has no clear plan and there's no prospect that there's going to be a vaccine available for the majority of the american people Before the middle of next year president trump your reaction. He says you have no plan I'm gonna have a dark winter and at all we're opening up our country We've learned and studied and understand the disease which we didn't at the beginning When I closed and banned china from coming in heavily infected and then ultimately europe But china was in january months later. He was saying I was xenophobic. I did it too soon now He's saying oh, I should have uh, I should have you know moved quicker But he didn't move quicker. He was months behind me many months behind me And frankly he ran the h1 n1 swine flu and it was a total disaster far less lethal But it was a total disaster had that had this kind of numbers 700 000 people would be dead right now, but it was a far less lethal disease Look his own person who ran that for him who as you know was his chief of staff said It was catastrophic. It was horrible. We didn't know what we were doing Now he comes up and he tells us how to do this also everything that he said about the way every single move that he said we should make That's what we've done. We've done all of it, but he was way behind us Vice president biden your response my response is he is xenophobic, but not because he shut down Access from china and he did it late after 40 countries had already done that In addition to that what he did he made sure that we had 44 people that were in there In china trying to get to wuhan to determine what exactly the source was. What did the president say in january? He said no, he said this is he's being transparent the president of china is being transparent We owe him a debt of gratitude. We ought to we have to thank him and and then what happened was We started talking about using the defense act to make sure we go out and get whatever is needed Out there to protect people and again. I go back to this He had nothing he did virtually nothing and then he gets out of the hospital And he talks about we're this is oh, don't worry. It's all gonna be over soon Come on There's not another serious scientist in the world who thinks it's going to be over soon president trump your reaction Over soon. I say we're learning to live with it. We have no choice We can't lock ourselves up in a basement like joe does he has the He has the ability to lock himself up. I don't know he's obviously made a lot of money someplace But he has this thing about living in a basement people can't do that By the way, I as the president couldn't do that I'd love to put myself in the basement or in a beautiful room in the white house And go away for a year and a half until it disappears I can't do that and kerson every every meeting I had every meeting I had and I'd meet a lot of families including gold star families and military families Every meeting I had and I had to meet them. I had to it would be horrible to have cancelled everything I said, you know, this is dangerous and you catch it. And you know, I caught it I learned a lot. I learned a lot great doctors great hospitals And now I recovered 99.9 Of young people recover 99 percent of people recover. We have to recover. We can't close up our nation We have to open our school and we can't close up our nation or you're not going to have a nation And of course the cdc has said young people can get sick with covet 19 and can pass it Vice president biden, I want to talk broadly about strategy though You have to respond to that 30 seconds, please and then I have a question. No number one He says that we're you know, we're learning to live with it People are learning to die with it. You folks home will have an empty chair at the kitchen table this morning That man or wife going to bed tonight and reaching over to try to touch their Out of habit where their way for husband was is gone Learning to live with it. Come on. We're dying with it because he has never said he said, it's dangerous When's the last time is it really dangerous still are we dangerous you tell the people is dangerous now? What should they do about the danger and you say I take no responsibility? Let me talk about your two Excuse me. I take I take full responsibility It's not my fault that it came here. It's china's fault. And you know what? It's not joe's fault that it came here either It's china's fault. They kept it from going into the rest of china for the most part But they didn't keep it from coming out to the world including europe and ourselves Vice president biden The fact is that when we knew it was coming when it hit What happened? What did the president say? He said don't worry. It's going to go away Begone by Easter. Don't worry the warm weather. Don't worry. Maybe inject bleach He said he was kidding when he said that a lot of people thought it was serious A whole range of things the president has said even today. He thinks we are in control We're about to lose 200 000 more people President trump look perhaps just to finish this I was kidding on that but just to finish this One night closed He said I shouldn't have closed And that went on for months what nancy polosi said the same thing She was dancing on the streets in china town in san francisco But when I closed he said This is a terrible thing you xenophobic. I think he called me racist even and because I was closing it to china Now he says I should have closed it earlier It just joe it doesn't I didn't say either of those things you certainly did I talked about a xenophobia in a different context. It wasn't about closing the border to chinese Coming to the united states. All right. I want to talk about both of your different strategies to handle I thought I shouldn't have closed the border. That's obvious Is that do you want to respond to that quickly vice president? Okay, let's talk about your different Strategies toward dealing with this mr. Vice president. You suggested you would support new shutdowns if scientists recommended it What do you say to americans who are fearful that the cost of shutdowns the impact on the economy the higher rates of hunger Depression domestic and substance abuse outweighs the risk of exposure to the virus What I would say is I'm going to shut down the virus not the country It's his ineptitude that caused the virus caused the country to have to shut down in large part Why businesses have gone under why schools are closed why so many people have lost their living and why they're concerned Those other concerns are real. That's why he should have been instead of in a sand trap in his golf course He should have been negotiating with nancy polosi and the rest of the democrats and republicans about what to do about The acts they were passing for billions of dollars to make sure people had the capacity But you haven't ruled out more shutdowns No, I'm not shutting down the night, but there are look You need standards the standard is if you have a reproduction rate in a community. That's above a certain level Everybody says slow up More social distancing do not open bars and do not open gymnasiums Do not open until you get this under control under more control But when you do open give the people the capacity to be able to open and have the capacity to do it safely For example schools schools. They need a lot of money to open. They need to deal with ventilation systems They need to deal with smaller classes more teachers more pods And he's refused to support that money or at least up to now Let's talk about schools president Well, I think we have to respond if I might please and then I have a follow-up. Thank you and I appreciate that Look, all he does is talk about shutdowns, but forget about him His democrat governors kwamo in new york you look at what's going on in california You look at pennsylvania north carolina democrats democrats all they're shut down so tight and they're dying They're dying And he supports all these people all he talks about is shut downs No, we're not going to shut down and we have to open our schools And it's like as an example. I have a young son. He also tested positive By the time I spoke to the doctor the second time he was fine. It just went away young people I guess it's their immune system. Let me follow up with you president trump You've demanded schools open in person and insist they can do it safely But just yesterday boston became the latest city to move its public school system entirely online after a coronavirus spike What is your message to parents who worry that sending their children to school will endanger not only their kids But also their teachers and families. I want to open the schools the transmittal rate to the teachers is Very small, but I want to open the schools. We have to open our country We're not going to have a country. You can't do this. We can't keep this country closed. This is a massive Country with a massive economy people are losing their jobs. They're committing suicide There's depression alcohol drugs at a level that nobody's ever seen before There's abuse tremendous abuse. We have to open our country You know, I've said it often the cure cannot be worse than the problem itself And that's what's happening and he wants to close down. He'll close down the country if one person in our in our Massive bureaucracy says we should close it down. Vice president biden. You're simply not true We ought to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time We ought to be able to safely open But would they need resources to open you need to be able to for example if you're going to open a business Have social distancing within the business you need to have if you have a restaurant You need to have plexiglass dividers so people cannot Infect one another you need to be in a position where you can take Testing rapidly and know whether a person is in fact infected you need to be able to trace You need to be able to provide that all the resources that are needed to do this and that is not inconsistent with saying that What we're going to make sure that we open safely and by the way all you teachers out there Not that many of you are going to die. So don't worry about it So don't worry about it. Come on president trump. Let me follow up with you quickly By the way, I will say this if you go and look at what's happened to new york It's a ghost town It's a ghost town and when you talk about plexiglass. These are restaurants that are dying. These are businesses with no money Putting a plexiglass is unbelievably expensive and it's not the answer I mean you're going to sit there in a cubicle wrapped around with plastic It's these are businesses that are dying joe. You can't do that to people You just can't take a look at new york and what's happened to my wonderful city for For so many years. I loved it. It was vibrant. It's dying. Everyone's leaving new york Take a look at what new york has done in terms of turning the curve down in terms of the number of people dying And I don't look at this in terms of the way he does blue states and red states They're all the united states and look at the states that are having such a spike In the coronavirus. They're the red states. They're the states in the midwest of the states in the upper midwest That's where the spike is occurring significantly, but they're all americans They're all americans and what we have to do is say wear these masks number one Make sure we get the help that the businesses need that has money's already been passed to do that It's been out there since the beginning of the summer and nothing's happened President new york has lost more than 40 000 people 11 000 people in nursing home president trump what about when you say spike Take a look at what's happening in pennsylvania where they've had it closed Take a look at what's happening with your friend in michigan where her husband's the only one allowed to do anything It's been like a prison now. It was just ruled unconstitutional Take a look at north carolina. They're having spikes and they've been closed and they're getting killed We can't let that happen joe. You can't let that happen We have to open up and we understand the disease. We have to protect our seniors. We have to protect our elderly We have to protect especially our seniors with heart problems and diabetes problems and we will protect them We have the best testing in the world by far. That's why we have so many cases Let me follow up with you before we move on to our next section president trump this week You called dr. Anthony Fauci the nation's best known infectious disease expert quote a disaster You described him and other medical experts as quote idiots if you're not listening to them Who are you listening to? Let me I'm listening to all of them including anthony. I get along very well with anthony, but He did say don't wear masks. He did say As you know, this is not going to be a problem I think he's a democrat, but that's okay. He said this is not going to be a problem We are not going to have a problem at all when joe says that I said Anthony Fauci said and others and many others and i'm not knocking him a lot nobody knew look Nobody knew what this thing was nobody knew where it was coming from what it was We've learned a lot, but anthony said don't wear masks now. He wants to wear masks anthony also said if you look back Exact words. Here's his exact words. This is no problem. This is going to go away soon So he's allowed to make mistakes. He happens to be a good person Vice president biden your response quickly and then we're going to move on to the next section Our response is that think about what the president knew in january and didn't tell the american people He was told this was a serious virus that spread in the air and it was much worse than much worse than the flu He went on record and said to one of your colleagues Recorded that in fact, he knew how dangerous it was, but he didn't want to tell us He didn't want to tell us because he didn't want us to panic He didn't want us americans don't panic He panicked but i guess what in the meantime we find out in the new york times the other day that in fact His folks went to wall street and said this is a really dangerous thing and a memo out of that meeting Not from his administration, but from some of the brokers said sell short because we've got to get moving It's a dangerous problem. Well, this is what i give you 30 seconds to respond and then we're going to move on I don't know somebody went to wall street. You're the one that takes all the money from wall street. I don't take it I have you have raised a lot of money Tremendous amounts of money and every time you raise money deals are made joe I could raise so much more money as president and as somebody that knows most of those people I could call the heads of wall street the heads of every company in america I would blow away every record, but i don't want to do that because it puts me in a bad position And then you bring up wall street You shouldn't be bringing up wall street because you're the one that takes the money from wall street not me I could blow away your records That like you wouldn't believe we don't need money. We have plenty of money. In fact We beat hillary clinton with a tiny fraction of the money that she was able all right gentlemen We're gonna tell me about average contribution 43 dollars All right, we're going to move on to our next section Which is national security and I do want to start with the security of our elections and some breaking news from overnight Just last night top intelligence officials confirmed again that both russia and iran are working to influence this election Both countries have obtained u.s. Voter registration information these officials say and iran sent intimidating messages to florida voters This question goes to you mr. Vice president What would you do to put an end to this threat? You have two minutes uninterrupted I made it clear And I asked everyone else to take the pledge I made it clear that any country no matter who it is that interferes in american elections will pay a price They will pay a price and it's been overwhelmingly clear of this election I won't even get into the last one this election that russia has been involved China has been involved of some degree and now we learned that that uh, that uh, iran is involved They will pay a price if i'm elected they're interfering with american sovereignty That's what's going on right now. They're interfering with american sovereignty and to the best of my knowledge I don't think the president said anything to putin about it. I don't think he's stalking them a lot I don't think he said a word I don't know why he hadn't said a word to putin about it And I don't know what he has recently said if anything to the iranians my guess is he'd probably be more outspoken With regard to the iranians, but the point is this folks. We are in a situation where we have foreign Company countries trying to interfere in the outcome of our election His own own national security advisor told him that what is happening with his buddy Well, I won't gosh him. Oh, I will his buddy Rudy Giuliani. He's being used as a russian pawn He's being fed information that is russian That is not true and then what happens nothing happens and then you find out that Everything is going on here about russia is wanting to make sure that I do not get elected the next president On his face because they know I know them and they know me I don't understand why this president is unwilling to take on putin when he's actually paying bounties to kill american soldiers in afghanistan When he's engaged in activities that are trying to destabilize all of the nato I don't know why he doesn't do it, but it's worth asking the question. Why isn't that being done? Any country interferes with us will in fact pay a price because they're affecting our sovereignty President trump same question to you Let me ask the question. You're gonna have two minutes to respond for two elections in a row now There has been substantial interference from foreign adversaries What would you do in your next term to put an end to this two minutes? Well, let me respond to the first part as joe answered joe got three and a half million dollars from russia And it came through putin because he was very friendly with the Former mayor of mosca and it was the mayor of mosca's wife and you got three and a half million dollars Your family got three and a half million dollars and you know someday you're gonna have to explain Why did you get three to have i never got any money from russia? I don't get money from russia now about your thing last night I knew all about that and through John who is john retliff who was fantastic d and i he said The one thing that's common to both of them They both want you to lose because there has been nobody tougher to russia with between the sanctions Nobody tougher than me on russia between the sanctions between all of what i've done with nato You know i've got the nato countries to put up an extra 130 billion going to 420 billion dollars a year That's to guard against russia i sold while he was selling pillows and sheets I sold tankbusters to ukraine there has been nobody tougher On russia than donald trump and i'll tell you they were so bad They took over the the submarine port you remember that very well during your Term during you and barack obama they took over a big part of what should have been ukraine you handed it to them But you were getting a lot of money from russia They were paying you a lot of money and they probably still are but now with what came out today It's even worse all of the emails the emails the horrible emails of the kind of money that you were raking in you and your family And joe you were vice president when some of this was happening and it should have never happened And i think you owe an explanation to the american people Why is it somebody just had a news conference a little while ago who was essentially supposed to work with you and your family But what he said was damning and Regardless of me. I think you have to clean it up and talk to the american people. Maybe you can do it right now Vice president biden you may respond to this and then i do want to follow up on the election security I have not taken a penny from any foreign source ever in my life We learned that this president paid 50 times the tax in china has a secret bank account with china Does business in china and in fact is talking about me taking money I have not taken a single penny from any country whatsoever ever number one Number two This is a president. I have released all of my tax returns 22 years. Go look at them 22 years of my tax return. You have not released the single solitary year of your tax return What are you hiding? Why are you unwilling the foreign countries are paying you a lot russia's paying you a lot china's paying you a lot and your hotels and all your businesses all around the country All around the world and china's building a new road to a new A golf course you have overseas. So what's going on here? Why don't release your tax return or stop talking about corruption president trump your response first of all I called my accountants Underwrote it i'm going to release them as soon as we can i want to do it and it'll show how successful how great this Company is but much more importantly than that people were saying 750 dollars I asked them a week ago. I said What did I pay? They said sir you prepaid tens of millions of dollars. I prepaid my tax tens over the last number of years Tens of millions of dollars. I prepaid Because at some point they think it's an estimate they think I may have to pay tax So I already prepaid it nobody told me that did your account nobody tell you that Excuse me, and it wasn't written whenever they write this they keep talking about 750 dollars, which I think is a filing fee But let me just tell you