 I think I was about eight, just over eight stone ringing wet, and I wanted to be a parer. The greatest British type Wando team ever, and proud to say I was a member of it twice. He was classed as the best ever Thai boxer of his era, and the bar owner, crazy woman, pulled a gun on him. Dave, how are you, mate? Great, mate. Thanks for having me on the podcast. Ah, that's my absolute pleasure. Yeah, I'm enthralled to be here. Good, that's what we like. I'm trying to think who we've got to thank for putting us in touch. I'm sorry, folks at home. I honestly get so many messages a day, I can't remember. Ronny, rocket Ronny. Ah, yes, of course. I made it wrong in Thailand. Yes, thank you. Fantastic blow. Very nice blow, yeah. Dave, let's start off. You've been in the wars a little bit recently. Yes, yeah. So it all started, Chris, I'll let you and the followers know. It all started when COVID hit Thailand. I was living in Thailand, I was there 21 years, had a great life, and then suddenly COVID hit and it wiped out my business. I had no clients left because I was doing photography, I was doing photo shoots, I was blogging, you know, I had a website so people with bars and restaurants would advertise on that and it all dried up. As soon as COVID hit, it was a nightmare and I had to get out fast. So my family said, get out now. And I just got on, my friend bought me a flight and I was out of there. Sadly, but that's the way it goes. That was April 2020. And then I got back to England and I was just starting to get used to, well, that's my Thailand adventure over. Now I'm back in England, I was just getting used to England again after we got out of the lockdown. And then I had the AstraZeneca vaccine and I got a horrendous fever from that, horrendous. It lasted three weeks, Chris. My left foot swelled up, it came up like a balloon. My sister looked at it, she just said, she went ballistic. She just went 999 ambulance, I was rushed into hospital, Peterborough City Hospital. They attempted, before operations, to try and save my foot. And in the end, I lost my leg. Gosh, that's, it's hard to give that the magnitude it deserves. You know, over the internet, isn't it? What you've just been through is it would be most people's worst nightmares. Four operations, 10 weeks in hospital. I'm out now. I'm guessing the medical community are never going to consider the fact that it might have been due to this procedure. Yeah, basically they just said very hard to prove. Hard for it to be connected, but come on, there's nothing wrong with me. I had doctors that balanced my diabetes. I was on oral medication, they got it right. There was nothing wrong with me, there's nothing wrong. I do admit that I had three toes on the left that had been amputated in Thailand. I do admit that, but they had fully healed. This was over five years ago, Chris. And they were fully healed. There wasn't anything wrong with me, as far as I know. And if it wasn't the vaccine, then how do you explain this horrendous fever that lasted three weeks, man? I thought I was nearly dying. That's what, you know, I was just unlucky. That's all. Yeah, it's... But up until this, Chris, I'd just like to say for all your followers, I've had a fantastic life up until this, really, which we no doubt will explore, mate, won't we? Yeah, well, let's talk about that. And I just wish you well with all the other... Thanks, Chris. All the other stuff. You're obviously putting a very robust face on it, which is all we can do in such situations. Yeah, but that's me, Chris, and you'll find out why when you learn a bit more about me. Yes. How did you get into the martial arts? Right, yeah. I'm a small town boy. My mum and dad didn't have much money. I was bullied as a kid. So I wasn't anything special at all. I was quite timid. Even you wouldn't think so. Now the way I talk, I'm legs off a donkey. My teacher said, he seems a bit withdrawn. But then basically what happened, I said to mum, I said, mum, I'm fed up with the Boy Scouts. I said, I can't stand the leader and he wants to throw my mate out. I want to leave. So she said, OK, what do you want to do? I said, well, let's go to the YMCA because it's an open day. I had no idea what was there, but I thought my mate said, join the YMCA. Why don't you join the YMCA day? So we went to the YMCA and there was a Taekwondo class. And I said, mum, I was 13. I said, mum, that's what I want to do. That is definitely what I want to do. She said, well, only if you're sure. Because I've got a pay for it. I said, oh, yeah. And Chris, I must say, it was the only thing I'd done in my life so far that I was a total natural. Because I had the physique. I was extremely supple. I was like rubber, mate. So I was lucky. I was a born natural. Took to it like a duck to water, mate. A bit like me, mate, really. Because I go Taekwondo twice a week. Oh. And as you can obviously see, I've got the looks. I've got the body. And I watched my son. Well, I watched my son train. I was so supple. I could do what I call the banana splits because they put me heels on two chairs. It's like a massive curve. I was so supple, it was a joke. So I had natural ability. I was very, very driven because I used to mess about doing kung fu in the back garden with my cousin, even since the age of about 10 or 11, playing around. And basically Bruce Lee. It all started standing from Bruce Lee. Because of course, we were too young in those days. You couldn't go to see the films. But I had a wonderful uncle. He used to tell me all about Bruce Lee. He used to buy me every book, every magazine, every poster. And I wanted to be Bruce Lee, basically. I wanted to be like Bruce Lee. So I started Taekwondo and did very well at it. Chris had become a career. I, my instructors, they're so exceptional. Let's put him in the tournament. Put me in a national British full contact. All styles, championship. And I was young, really, as very young, but they sneak me in the men's division. And I won it. Quest for the champions, that was. Bruce Lee was some string of English and British titles. And then I did have a brief spell, tried to join the British Army. So I had this crazy idea at 18. I think I was about eight, just over eight stone ringing wet. And I wanted to be a para. I don't know why, Chris, but I just got it in my mind, in my tiny mind. I wanted to be a para. But I, you know, disillusioned a bit in the end. And I had to go. I failed a back squatty three times, failed P company three times. I wanted a fourth go on this tournament. I thought I was a bit of a psycho. I said, you failed three times. I wanted another go. But they stopped me. So I came out, but look at it. Well, I came out just before. Kip Falklands War kicked off in 1992. And then I went to Italy with a group of people called the United Kingdom Taekwondo Association under the great leadership of Dave Oliver. If anyone knows the name Dave Oliver, my God, my most successful English British coach ever. The greatest British Taekwondo team ever. And proud to say I was a member of it twice. So we went to the European Championships, won that. And then in 1984, we beat the greatest ever, the undisputed USA super team. They were Waco and PKA, which is professional kickboxing association, undisputed world champions. And they got a big shot because we beat them. So the Taekwondo Association, Great Britain, England team beat them. I was lucky to make that team because the lightweight, the number one was Ron, a man called Ron Sergue, a good friend of mine, but he was injured. He had a bad knee injury. So they called upon me as the number two. And luckily we all won. So there's a bit of an intro that got into the martial arts. Chris. Yeah, what's it like then when you're going to go in for a scrap? I think, are you terrified? Are you calm? How do you build yourself up for that? Well, I don't know, but ever since, I think it was just because when I went in to Taekwondo, also actually reminding me, when I was very young, I got a very, I'd went to see him the other month, my boxing coach, Lesnat, bless his, he's 96 now. And he started teaching me boxing from a young age, you see? So I was learning to box as well as Taekwondo. And now I didn't really fear it because I think it was just my mindset. It was just me. And I think, like I say, Chris, to be honest, I was lucky that I was so naturally talented. I was very, I was very gifted naturally. And so that helped out. So no, not really. In fact, I'll tell you at that tournament, I think of this, I could see this, my opponent looking at me and sort of sneering with his coach. Yeah, look at him. He's only a brown belt because he was a black belt. And he looks young and skinny. And I whacked him as hard as I could with a straight punch in the solar plexus and knocked him out in the first round. But it was less than a minute of the fight. So it was definitely something there, Chris. Yeah. I'll tell you what, Dave, I'm just going to say now, like you, Chris, you went on to be Royal Marine, which I have great respect for. You fared your calling in life. And I think that's happened to me. I found my calling in life. Some people, sadly, maybe don't. They don't reach their full potential because they did not find the thing that is suits them the most. Yeah, writing was the thing that suited me the most. I didn't find that until I was 38, I think. No, no, but there you go, you see. Yeah. I'll run to say something there, Chris. I was completely useless at school. At sports. Oh, my God, the teacher. I think he wanted to give me an F. I think I got an E or something. You know, I got really bad grades in sport because it didn't interest me. I wasn't interested in football. I didn't like football at all. And I used to get kicked off the field and told to go and do a run because I tried to kick someone in the head. We wanted to become food ticks. I tried to kick him in the head or something. I was a bit of a nightmare at school, but I went on to become world champion. How does that happen then? How do you become world champion? Yeah, I think, well, in the martial arts, it's to say we were lucky because in the UKTA and TAGB, these associations under the great leadership of Dave Oliver and Bob Howe, they're always looking for talent. My instructor, bless him, Malcolm, he took me to Leicester. Leicester 1CA. That's where we met the world champion, Ron Sergue. We started training there. And he sort of put me forward. He said, this is my best lad. This is Dave. And he sort of said, wow, yeah, he's really, he looks really good. He's international material. So they had already, then he talked to the head coach and that's how I got spotted, I think. And I started then going, I had a very good instructor. He's very proactive. He tried me everywhere. Take me to squad training, England squad training. I got into it. Yeah. And that's how you progress. And then of course, your big chance comes up one day when you get selected for the England team. It's like going through selection with the forces. You know, you've got to be in it to win it. You know, you've got to go for it. Yeah. Actually, on the note of the Royal Marines, I want to say that I followed for 1984 incidentally. I followed the Royal Marines fitness course. There was a book that they bought. And I did that because we had to be super fit because the USA super team were, well, they were undisputed. The best kickboxing team in the world. So we knew I knew it wasn't any messing around. Well, these guys. So I trained professionally. Six days a week, hours, several hours a day, I'd be training. I'd do the Royal remains fitness in the gym. I'd start the day with my running coach. A 10 mile run, road run in the morning. We could do that in 50 to 55 minutes, which is not bad considering not runners really. It was just part of my training. But do the run, get back, have a little break, then go into the white room, do the white training, have a break, go home for dinner, relax a bit, go back in the afternoon. I've got all the gym work to do then. That's when I'd start on the Royal Marines course. And then after a break and the tea and everything, I've got to do my training at night. Super fit. Actually super fit. As you well know, Chris, if you follow the Royal Marines, you're going to be very fit. Yeah, I can't say I was ever that to be honest. I didn't get fit until I was... You must have been made because you made it and they're the elite. Wow. I'm a big fan of the British forces, all of them. And I think they're marvelous. I think the British soldier, whether he's a Royal Marine, a parachute regiment soldier, or SAS or SP, they're the best in the world. And they taught the world how to soldier. They say about the Americans, they've got all the gear and no fucking idea. They've got all the expensive kit. But a basic soldier, I was trained by Peter McEliz. He trained me in unarmed combat. So I've done CQB with him. And I don't think there's finer soldiers in the world. But there's a lot of people. I know it's a big argument. US Navy SEALs, they're the best. SEAL Team 6, they're the best in the world. But who taught the world how to be a special forces soldier? None other than the British SS. I'm very proud to say that I'm a friend of not only Peter McEliz of work with him, but Rusty Furman, the legend, absolute legend, the hero of the Iranian Embassy siege in 1980, who led the assault. Wonderful man. Yes. I just want to say, Chris, before I ramble on too much, but just say big shout out for everyone, anybody who served, ladies or gentlemen who served for the British Armed Services. Well done. Thank you for your service. Yeah, well, let's just say I don't think the veteran service is over just yet, mate. But that's another conversation. I've got to talk about more interesting stuff. Yeah, let's talk about Bangkok and... Now we're talking, mate. Yeah. What a fascinating place. Well, I'd say it all stemmed, Chris, from a good friend of mine, because I started to branch out in martial arts. So from Taekwondo to boxing, then Thai boxing. That's how the Thailand connection came. And my friend lived there, and he said, Dave, you'd love Thailand. He said, why don't you come over? You know, you can work on your Thai boxing with the real world champions, and you'll love it over here. You'll absolutely love it in Thailand. So that's exactly what I did. I had a local company to sponsor me to go to train on one of the top Thai boxing camps, which is called Sit Yod Tong Payakuru. Sit Yod Tong Camp. And it's near Pattaya City, which many people know the seaside town. I call it So-O-On-Sea. There's more birds there than anywhere else in Thailand. But yeah, so this camp was just in a little village just outside there. That was amazing, because my training partner was none other than Samat Payakuru, who is anyone who knows Thai boxing will know that name. He was classed as the best ever Thai boxer of his era, and he won a world boxing title on top of that. Absolutely amazing guy. And that, Chris, is the sort of level that I trained with. And you are a bit of an experienced, aren't you, Chris? From Bangkok? Yeah, I was just saying, look at the shape of my nose. You've got to be very careful, because I want to say this for warning. It doesn't matter. I knew some American lads. They were huge, big, big lads, really big, huge. Tall, big bodybuilders. But you get 10 ties around you, all talled up, mate. It doesn't matter how big you are, they'll soon chop you down to size. The ties don't fight fair. And if they think you're a bit of a threat, well, they'll just have five of them or 10 of them waiting for you. I know, because I used to be a bar manager over there. Which bar did you manage? Yeah, that's a great, great, great time. There's a place in Bangkok called Na Na Plaza. And I was very lucky to run one of the best for many years, six years around Hollywood. It was on the top floor of Na Na Plaza. And then after that, I left. There was a fantastic, many people say, the best ever show bar is ever in Thailand. We've won awards and everything. Angel Witch Rock Dancers. Angel Witch Rock Dancers. Absolutely fantastic club. Well, three years in a row, they won Best Goga Bar in Bangkok. They won the award. And Patia, devoted by the US Navy, Best Club in Patia. Great honours. They've got the awards behind it. But I can't take all the credit. Just a manager. The owners were ingenious. But ironically, it was a German man and a Thai lady boy. And she was full sex change. But she was extremely creative with the stage shows. And all of their shows were unique. And guess what happened one day? One of my friends said, Dave, you've got to get down and get down here now. I said, what's up? What's going on? He said, you'll never believe it. He's just walked into one of our bars. Steve Tyler from Aerosmith. I said, you're joking. He said, no, get down here now. So I had a plan that I'll put into operation. And I said, hello, Steve. And he said, you may, man. You can call me what you want. You may, man. And I said, I'd like to introduce you to Angel Witch, where we're going to perform a show for you to your song, Dream On. And he said, yeah, man, that sounds great. Let's do it. So there I am sitting with Steve Tyler in Angel Witch. And I get my top girl to do the show, which, of course, was already in the show repertoire. So it was a choreographed show. He loved it. He said, that was fantastic, man. He absolutely loved it. What a super guy he is. He loves his fans. He just looked, he's really, really an amazing guy. I tell you, he just went to the toilet and the bodyguard was right next to him. And he walked out. He goes, hey, Dave, what's through there? And I said, that's the girl's changing. He's like, pull the curtains over and just dive in. That was Steve Tyler. Amazing guy, really amazing. That's just one of many stories, Chris. Yeah, it's an amazing place. But the top people go there, of course. I had a very good friend called Dave Walker. Now he served with the British Army. I don't know, sorry, what regiment? But he served in Northern Ireland. Although he was Canadian, he joined the British Army and served in Northern Ireland. He was a fantastic guy, Dave. He went on to be a journalist. And anybody in town, because of course being a journalist, he knew who was in town. He used to bring all the famous guys to it and one day, I couldn't believe who walked out. I thought there was some kind of raid. I said, what's going on here? Who are these people? There's an entourage of events. I think eight time and serious looking guys. And I thought, well, that's a security team. That can't be police or is it army? Well, is this some kind of raid? And then they walked with Stephen Seagal, the Hollywood movie star. And you're not going to believe it, Chris, that guess what bar I worked in? Guess what it was called? Hollywood. I'm not joking. It's on the top floor. It's called Hollywood. Yeah, that was the truth. And just to meet him, I mean, you know what I'm like, motor mouth me as I just talk, talk, talk. I was silent. I'm like, I couldn't speak. Stephen Seagal. Well, that was impressive. But the best one I ever met was definitely Steve Tyler, because I made it all happen. And we did the show for him to his song. Yeah, but met a few. Yeah. And the same guy again, Dave, he said, you're never going to guess who's just walked into your bag. I guess go on. Who is it this time? He said, it's Oliver Stone. I said, what the Hollywood movie director? He said, yeah, they're doing a movie in town. And the guy with him was very, a very, very nice guy, very humble. And we're still friends to this day. And that was the former world light middleweight boxing champion, Gary stretch. And he has absolutely lovely bloat. And he was one of the only people to ever beat Chris Eubanks. He's a wonderful lad, Chris, the wonderful lad. But Gary is my boy. Yeah. And one day he surprised me and my boss. He walks in with his hold or drops it on the floor. And I thought, what's going on here? And he said to me and my boss, he said, I've got something to show you, lads. And he pulled those right down for size, Dave. And he gave me the WBC belt, the world title belt. Yeah, amazing guy, Gary. Lovely, lovely lad. They're just a few stories there, Chris. We want to hear about some fights. So, mate, come on. What scraps did you see and who got hurt? Right. I think actually you'd be a little bit surprised. But mostly people are going over to Thailand. They're having such a great time. You don't really see so much trouble. And especially now they've got professional security teams on the front of Nanoplasa. Really good. They're really good. They check bags when they come in. They're security checks. They check girls, the girls that come in. They check their IDs of age. They've got to be at least 18 to work in a bar. It's all very good now, I must say. They might even stop you and say, and look in your bag. Make sure they're not bringing any weapons in or drugs or anything. It's very, very good now. So, you know, people, I think it's not like the... But when I first started, Chris, my God, it was like the whole West. I know a bar owner. He went to one bar. This is how bad it used to be years ago. And he said, I'm going to this bar. I'm going to try to get some girls. You know, we just didn't say anything then. We thought, well, this is not going to end very well. And he's sitting around. He's buying them all drinks. He starts handing out his name card, which is something you don't do. I mean, sort of other gentlemen's agreement. You don't go handing your name card out to the girls. That's deliberately poaching them. You're trying to steal the girls. And he gets this jab in his ribs. Yeah. And the bar owner, crazy woman, pulled a gun on him. She shoved a barrel in his ribs. She said, I wouldn't do that if I were you. That's what it was like. It was like the whole West, man. Yeah. I'll tell you a story. Not so much fights. There's a crazy policeman. And his name is Toon. So we're calling Toon the loon. I call him Toon the loon. Oh my God. We're in the downstairs bar. It used to be rough and ready in those days. And there was rats running around. And he'd go, boom, man. He was a terrible shot. He missed the rat completely. He was ducking and diving from British face. Crazy. That's Toon the loon. Let's see his gun off in the bar. Trying to shoot the rats. That's complete nutters. But you're talking about Pat Pong. Well, one of my friends was down there. And what they did, you've got to be careful. Because they say it's a bit like Soho. You've got to think Soho. They go, oh, we have a special show for you, sir. Yeah. I think it's going to cost you a lot of money. And it's just to rip off. Like they used to do in Soho. My friend said, no way. I ain't paying it. And he got the guy by the scruff of the neck. But the guy stuck a gun in his face. I mean, I don't, I don't mess about in them days. But I must say now, it's, it's a lot better. It's not, you know, there's not really so many good. There's not really so many. No, no, we're near as many guns now. They just get arrested. Yeah. Yeah. But not, you wouldn't, you wouldn't actually, not so, so many projects. Just to think people are just, you know, you're generally having too good a time, you know. But the tie lads do not mess around. And they will, they will win the war. They will, they will win it. You know, if, if they think, well, there's a, there's a few of these lads and they're quite big. Well, they'll double or treble the numbers to beat you. They'll get a gang of 10 on to you. Or yeah, they will win. They will win the battle. I'll tell you. Well, do they still do the, do they still do the sex shows? It was all that ban now. There was a massive clamp down and not so much now. Because there's a massive clamp down by the Thai government. It was when it all started really when Prime Minister taxing came in. And he wanted to clean everything up and everything. But I think in a way it's better because it's more regulated now. You know, for example, the girls have to be of age. They've got to be checked. It's not degrading shows like they used to do in Pat Bong. I mean, yeah, it's cleaned up a lot. Yeah. Taxing divided the country, though, didn't he? Taxing Shinawa? Yeah, he was very loved by the working class Thais, though. He won them over. But I don't get, I don't do politics really, Chris. I don't like to get into it. But the big people in Bangkok didn't like him. Yeah, so that's why he was ousted. Yeah. Yeah. He owned a telecommunications company. But a lot of the emphasis has gone away from the bars now. But you can still have a fantastic time in Thailand. They're lovely people. They really are. You know, if you go to the islands, there's absolutely stunning down south. Phuket and Koh Samui, Koh Pee Pee, Koh Banyang. Absolutely beautiful. Yeah. And so what's in the future for you, Dave? Because obviously life's changed a wee bit now. Hopefully not too much. It takes a lot, mate. But I'm the sort of person. I don't, you know, I used to tell them in the hospital, I don't do self-pity. I just get on with life. I'm still got a life to lead. But I'm very lucky that, you know, the Taekwondo Association were in the GT UK, the global Taekwondo UK, under Grandmaster Roy Oldham. And I've known him. He's like my big brother I never had. Fantastic guy. And he's a Grandmaster and he wants me back. And he said, yeah, I want you back, Dave. And I made a start. I do their social media. And one skill I did learn in Thailand, because I was trained by some professionals. It was how to be a photographer. But I got to say, Chris, a lot more interesting and lovely subjects to photograph in Thailand. That I'm going to have here, mate. Amazing experience in Thailand. You made the most of life though. And I have, as I say, I'm lucky. I think the world of me over in the GT UK. So I can't wait to get, and you don't know I've seen some amazing guys, ex-forces, amputees do some amazing stuff. And I wasn't world champion for nothing. I don't give up. You know, I'll get, I'll go back into it. But I just don't know to what degree, Chris, how long it will take. It's a process. I always believe what got me through this really is to say to people is what I call PMA. Just have a positive mental attitude. And it will, it's remarkable what it will do. It will get you through things. Absolutely. And that's clear to see. So, David, wish you all the best. I love talking about Thailand, here in Thailand, Thai stories. Yeah, it's been, you know, it's been a good podcast. And maybe we do another one, then we could talk more about my stories about Peter Macalese. Save it for another time. Yes. Yes, Peter's been a... I want to try to write a book about it, actually. Bangkok. Some are obviously my memoirs, but warnings to people what to do and what not to do. Yeah, but I had a fantastic time there. There's a guy, unfortunately, many of us were forced to leave Thailand. And a guy called Stickman. And he's got a fantastic website called StickmanBangkok.com. And one of the best compliments I've ever had. He missed a Nanna. That's amazing to be named after a place. Oh, God. Let alone named after a bar. I was named after the complex Nanna entertainment plaza. Amazing. His last tribute to me was when I had to leave, forced to leave Thailand, because I did know a lot of people. I blogged about it. I had my own website. I was sort of like an ambassador for the place. So it was by Mr Nanna. Nice tribute. Brilliant. My life now is here, Chris. Like you, mate. I'm in City Street and I'm back in England. But I want to finish by saying that the National Health Service is marvelous in this country. Yes, we have to protect it from Mr Branson. And don't leave the thieving bastard. Do you know why they privatise companies? No. It's so they can sneak off all the technology, you know, so they can get dabs. What I'm trying to say is from a patient's perspective, I've been through it. I've been through the meal, mate. I had four operations. Ten weeks. And I tell you, they're absolutely marvellous. They're doctors and nurses. Yeah, we've got to protect the NHS at all costs. And that's not happening at the moment, you know? So I just wanted to say, Chris, a big shout out for the National Health Service and the British forces. Still the best in the world. Yes. They all might call us like the EU or the bloody British and all that, but I tell you what, they wouldn't want to bloody fight us, mate. Yeah. True, innit, mate? You know. Yeah, you've just named two professions, though, that need to start speaking up a bit. Because there's only so much you can keep quiet about before you're not really respected and you're not doing the country any favours. And fortunately, that's starting to happen and massive big up to this nurse. I don't know her name, but she's been on the AJ Roberts show and she's telling the truth about what's going on in the NHS and we need to see more of it because, you know, if you want to be a... You want to be a... It's been a great privilege for me to be on your podcast. Thanks very much, mate. Yeah, no problem. No problem. And I highly respect you for your service. Seven years with the Royal Marines, mate. I'd respect me more for my service now, mate, if I was you. Because, you know, there is a struggle on... Four or two now, Chris. He's going back to Thailand and I won't have any of the headaches of being a bar boss. I'll just be on holiday. I'll be a tourist. I can enjoy myself doing time. And not only that, I'll take some beautiful photos and do a bit more travelling, see which one country which I haven't visited yet say is absolutely stunning is Vietnam. A lot of people talking about Vietnam now. People are fantastic, they're lovely and it's a beautiful picturesque place here. So I would have to say, Chris, I think that's about it. Time's up, isn't it? Yeah. It's been a long podcast and thank you very much for hosting me. Great honour for me. No problem. Just look after yourself. Yeah, maybe in another chat we'll talk about my times with people like Peter Macalese. And my friendship with Rusty Furman. Another essayist legend. Yeah. A few stories. Thanks very much, Chris. Yes. My pleasure. Just look after yourself, Dave, won't you? And I should just say to... I'll be all right. Yeah. I must stop by there. You will be all right. I can see that. Friends at home. Yeah. Friends at home. I hope you've enjoyed this as much as I have. If you can like and subscribe, that would be wonderful. And see you all soon. Thank you.