 So welcome back everyone thanks for joining us for this special interview We do this every so often with one of this channel's longtime sponsors the CEO of double gold column plume. Thank you. Welcome, sir Hey, how are you? Yeah, good to be here Yeah, we like we like having you on every so often and then talking about this stuff I normally talk about media-centered stuff But I am really into pretty much any news and especially the wars going on right now. We got you know Russia and Ukraine we got Hamas and our Israel fighting Hamas and Gaza and Now I'm reading that we have very real trouble flaring up in the Red Sea Which means the Suez canal and I think most people know that it's a major shipping port It's actually the fourth busiest shipping lane in the world and so any disruption there is just gonna Intensify the economic troubles that we're already seeing so in that odious environment. What does that mean? For the dollar. I mean right now. We have gold surging to $2,130 and Bitcoin too for that matter So, you know, what does that mean for the dollar and for people watching? What does that mean for you know, if they're thinking about diversification or the retirement? Yeah, well first. I just wanted to say gold is in the 2030 range It hasn't broken 2100 yet. Oh, oh, yeah, it did break. Yeah, it did break over three weeks ago over the weekend It broke 2082 Which is the all-time high so it's it's definitely been flirting With all-time highs. I've been saying for a long time that 2000 sort of a psychological number out there and and You know, a lot of people are concerned about the economy I mean Harry Dent came out and said that he thinks we're gonna have the biggest collapse In the stock market that we've ever seen next year You know, he's a guy that's you know been right in a number of occasions in terms of predicting You know economic calamity and I think it's We're in such a strange time in that We have finally hit the point in the US economy where we So dependent on debt That we have to have money cheaper. Otherwise things don't move yet Cheap money also in a lot of ways makes it difficult for us to to grow and it also Intensifies us with all the the debt that we've had in this country and you know, we're right now our servicing our debt As a country cost us as much as our military budget. So it's Which is a massive number. I mean to think to think about that Kind of take a step back and say that we are we basically have a big credit card bill that Is more expensive than they cost to protect us as citizens So that's when you sort of run into some situations where you know, we we We always talk about being broke. I think it's those numbers really highlight the fact that it's It's gonna be difficult for us to continue Unless we see some dramatic changes with the government spending changes, right? Yeah, we're not seeing that we're actually seeing a lot of mass denial from the government and from the media just about the economy in general Yeah, yeah, I was at this weekend. I was at Charlie Kirk has a his turning point his nonprofit has a big Fast called American fast. I went to this weekend. They had a huge lineup of speakers Very interesting group and you know, you had you know Republicans and business people Patrick Beck David was there and yeah, I think the back and Tucker were there too, weren't they? So yeah, so that that's what I was gonna bring up the back You know, he's such an exciting speaker, I mean, he's just he was balancing off the stage their Phoenix and They asked him that he took a he did a Q&A and they asked him about the Fed What he would do and he said Thing you do is fire 80 or 90% of the staff because it's way over staff And then he said that he thinks if he said if he was president He would peg us back on the gold standard Tied to commodities, maybe not solely gold But maybe you have a basket of currencies which a lot of countries have talked about but that was his That was one of his remedies to try to our spending under control that was his one of his strategies, which I haven't heard a Presidential candidate say anything so bold In a long time, right, I mean, they're usually much safer In their language Yeah, and that also the funny part was that he was cussing a lot. So the next day Charlie Kirk Mentioned that he was getting a lot of emails because there was actually a lot of There was a lot of college kids there through turning point But there was also a lot of families that brought their kids like young kids So those parents were emailing saying You know, the fact was using the F word and he was kind of going off FU stuff. Yeah Yeah, yeah, and so, you know, all these parents were like trying to earmuff their kids is with Vex You know dropping f-bombs and he you know, he he laid into Someone from CNN I can't remember who he laid into but he kind of was kind of ranting about him But yeah, so it was yeah, so oh van Jones. Yeah, and Jones, right exactly Yeah, and then and then Tucker came out and spoke Yesterday so I caught actually was the last person I heard speak before it I flew out of town And and Tucker had a mad biggest crowd by far. I think it's a whole event And he was just talking about about morality and what's kind of happening in the world and You know where we're kind of going that we're going down kind of a scary path But but long story short, I think that the debt Which was a real constant conversation at this Event was that the debt is really out of control and that we need to you know pull back spending pretty dramatically a lot of people said it in many different ways So it is something that we need to talk about it And that's why voting is so important that you can actually vote for people that have the more sound sort of business practices and the idea of slowing things down and you know Obviously reducing the big government and moving in in a lot of different directions is really important And for people that that are watching that might not understand. Sorry to cut you off there Just like why is that a good thing? Why would we want to change over back? You know back to the gold standard? Well because you can't Put money on a thin air if you're on the gold standard you'd have to you have this has to be pegged You know for before we went off the gold standard every dollar that was out there had Gold behind it. So just couldn't print freely. So when Nixon took us took us off the gold standard You know completely in 1971 We've been able to Just print as much as we have wanted And without any recourse because we're the world's reserve currency. We have this flexibility We had it had to something Inflation would be lower some substantially lower Governments the government would have to have a budget which they they haven't balanced the budget I don't know how long it's been ten years. It's been very long. I think Clinton was our was Clinton. Is that the last time? Maybe yes So we we were you know, we're in a position now where our Our Facet and what we're spending is is ballooning and it's it's you know in a few very specific places It's health care, obviously Medicare and Medi-Cal Very expensive and people are living longer in government programs Debt as I mentioned our debt payments right now costs as much as our military budget. So you have the monies coming out and Very typical places they know where it's all coming out from but no one's Really ready to do anything to fix those issues Which was a lot which was discussed at this American fast was that you know people are being for a resolution and We can't just continue to Raise the debt ceiling every two months and continue to go down this path With people want more sound money principles and that's why it typically always comes back to gold and silver as the currency Because it is something that comes out of the ground and you you have to have enough of it to back it and so it creates some some Boundaries of spending we don't currently have that's why The gold standard or or having like a fractional backing of gold with our currency I don't think we could do it for dollars. I think there's too many now Having some kind of system that that restricted our our spending Would be much much better for for you and I and and everybody listening because We now As of inflation we have to a return on our investment to keep up. That's so high Keep our standard of living, right? It's not like it used to be You could you could make a smaller return a safer return now That's why you know crypto and all these things have come to the forefront is because people realize they need they need dramatic returns So they're taking bold risk and a lot of them lose unfortunately I don't know if you're big in a crypto, but I saw it at the FTX You know the big scandal with FTX and I knew this happen. They're trying to pay people back That have been held hostage by this But they want to pay them back in cash They don't want to pay them back and and I find it so I mean I knew when this went down this this is what they're gonna try to do but It's sort of a lines with oh, well, you know, we'll give you back cash and also with the other thing it does Is it all those people have to pay tax? For one of those people that get cash now they've converted it they're gonna have to pay tax So it's sort of a win for the government too. All right Ready to go in that dress what and why why couldn't they just give them back the crypto that they bought You know, that's the problem with these, you know, these situations is they just present an opportunity for the government to win And there's probably a lot of people to go. I don't want my cash I want the Bitcoin. I want the Salon or what I bought what I bought, right? Yeah Yeah, and you know that you know what you were talking about it's gonna take somebody You know very brave somebody like we've been calling him a Vic I think it's a vape, but it's gonna take someone like him because you know, like Anybody who comes out against the spending is gonna get called a Putin lover or you know they're gonna go after them in some way because that money's gonna come from some other program and Nobody wants to touch any of these things. So yeah, it seems like that's never gonna happen It's gonna take a rogue kind of guy to do it Yeah, a Trump sort of in the Trump vein right someone Yeah, not afraid and doesn't need the money and doesn't need the you know, not doing it for To grow their wealth someone. That's like Please they can make some massive massive change and I don't know if he you know I don't know if he's the guy or whatever, but he's been saying some interesting things and you know, I think, you know, probably his biggest fault is that he's Not afraid to get into it with anybody and he's run to a lot of people wrong, which makes it sort of hard with politics to to get some bills passed but you know coming up on the end of the year we're in December now, you know, a lot of people are Trying to decide what to do and they're trying to predict I mean, you know, that's the thing with investments You got to look at what's gonna happen next year and what can happen for the next few years And I'll tell you my predictions for next year I think rates come down as the Fed has has discussed which means bank, you know returns to the banks are going to come down So I think the heyday of the 5% money is probably going away And you know, we're getting back to probably to 2 to 3% maybe lower than that which Any estimation is not going to keep up with inflation even 5% is not going to keep up so I think that's one of the things that happened I think they're going to open up the money supply a little bit next year because You know, the Fed wants to keep, you know, buying an office That's the smart move for them right to lower rates and hopefully open up the economy a little bit So I And you know, if you go back in history and you look at The year before or during the election year, there's always a lot of interesting things that happen With the Fed and how they control the economy How strong they're and how they can really dictate who's elected or not elected So I think that they are going to open up the money supply next year So I think things will kind of widen open which Which which will be great for a lot of industries real estate being one of them I think it'll it'll help obviously because you know, real estate's been Just dead, you know, there's no no transactions happening And there's no merger and acquisition transactions happening I was just reading that Mergers and acquisitions are a huge part of the economy these large companies Mergers and acquisitions this year were down 70% And you know some people would argue maybe that's a good thing, right? They don't want these big, you know companies becoming one big company But also some mergers and acquisitions and a good good amount of them. They actually improve The company they improve the product. They make the company stronger So this year because of interest rates and just the whole volatility of the market That whole sector has been dead. There's just no none of those large Transactions happening. So any like mergers any, you know loans or anything in that anyone in that world has been You know, basically brought down to their knees with these high interest rates So I think that I think things open up next year Um, and then it's like what's going to happen with these banks, right? Are banks going to survive a lot of banks are teetering right now Especially mid-range banks. Are they going to survive? Next year, you know, I think the only way they do is if you know loan productivity picks up and Just loans pick up and you know commercial loans pick up a little bit. So that'll probably help them Which I think having more mid-range banks is a benefit to all of us We don't want to have just these, you know massive banks that control the money So I think that's what we're going to see happen Uh in 2024 Do we get that massive pullback in the stock market? It's you know, it's hard to gauge You know, I know we've seen people say that it can have a massive Unless there's some kind of dramatic black swan event next year I don't see us dropping 50% of the stock market But you never know if there's you know, we had COVID, you know, there's all these things that can happen out there So I didn't ever really know What can once around the corner here? So What are you thinking about the ev market and how that's affecting Things right now special with precious metals Yeah, I mean, I think like, you know, you have so many new automakers And ev coming out there's I was watching an interview with the CEO of Rivian the the truck ev and You know, he was he was asked like is tesla a competitor and he said that there's so few ev manufacturers still that there's no real competitors Where they're all sort of helping grow that industry You know, and listen, I know people I love gas cars So I mean, I'm just gonna put that out there as much as I love silver I love I have an old 68 Pontiac GTL And I think I get like, you know, maybe four miles of the gallon on that I mean, you basically just drive from one gas station to the next Right. I mean I am obsessed with that car. Uh, I love turning it on um, I actually uh My wife my wife was killed a few weeks ago So I you got to turn those old cars on for a few minutes before they really run And uh, I turned the car on I had the garage door open, but I accidentally left the door to the garage door open So all the fumes came in the house And my wife was Was in there So I take off and I get a call down the street for my wife saying You try to kill like what are you trying to do you try to kill me in here? And I just I accidentally left that you know that door open So, you know, just for the record, I do And that's part of the charm of it That's part of the charm. Yeah the smell I remember when I I took my young kids on the car in the back and they're like dad, I smell again. Yeah, that's cool You're you smelling like gas is cool. That's why we have this car You know this car only goes 50 miles an hour or whatever it goes, you know, it looks it looks cool. You smell cool Um, so yeah, I mean, I think the EV market still you know still got momentum Obviously the cost of those cars has come down dramatically, which was the big problem Two big issues was the cost which has come down a lot. I mean even Tesla prices have dropped Then you know the length of of you know, how far they can get And you know lucid and a lot of these new ones are are breaking 400 miles on a charge I mean, I don't know how many people are are driving more than 400 miles That consistently. Yeah, maybe you're you're doing a road trip here there But I think for the most part they've they've worked out a lot of the kinks there So I think that market's going to continue to grow. That's great great for silver That's going to be really exciting and then on the catalytic converter side You know, the a lot of the companies are moving to platinum For usage they're moving away from palladium The four to f-150 Actually has about $2,000 in palladium in that vehicle The new lightning that everybody loves. So you're seeing a lot of these, um, you know besides gold These alt metals kind of like in the in the crypto biz silver Platinum palladium getting a lot of excitement So I think those things are are are really good and and I think just overall You know, you saw the alternative currency world really explode and continue to explode You saw bitcoin again, you know broke 43,000 it's pulled back a little bit But really, I mean, I think that the the reason you see people buy these items these You know bitcoin and these alternative currencies It's really a reaction to the us debt. That's really what they're Bitcoin doesn't do what it does unless that if the dollar's strong We're paying our bills. There's no bitcoin. I mean, it's it doesn't it doesn't hold water Um, but in this environment where people are just fed up Um, and they're looking for alternative ways to to to use their money You know the idea of having a money like bitcoin that has significantly outperform the dollar Is is appealing and so that's that's why you see these things come about. It's only because of reaction of of our overspending and on our big massive Government debt Yeah, and it's just it's an it's an overall distrust and the experts that you know keep saying these things And yet people they feel the effects every day, you know at the grocery or gas or wherever And you know, I that brings us to the fact that I you know, I get messages all the time right now in our discord There's people in there who were interested and the fact that you were going to be here. They wanted to ask questions I'm not going to take questions today, but it's really interesting Oh, you do want me to take questions Okay, I will all right. Well, I already have some questions. So that I got from them earlier I just didn't want people like coming in here and but we can do that if you want to it's it's up to you I'm okay to be a harassment question. Okay. That's cool. All right. Excellent. Cool. I I didn't want to put you on the spot But uh, we will see if those people are here. I think they are so um Basically we have all these people They they want to get into this stuff for all the reasons that we've talked about and I kind of Equate it to working out, you know a lot of people want to get into working out But it's intimidating because you don't really know what you know if you don't know what you're doing And so what would you recommend that people do? What's the first step? In working out always start with push-ups. That's always my first and pull-ups Start with the basics. No, um Well, that is true. That's a good idea though And I do I do it every day But um, no, I think like the basics is is getting educated in anything I think that that's so, you know, that's the big thing that we've always focused on is just You know, if you go out in the gold and silver space, you could look at it There's a million different ways to look at it. Some companies have thousands of coins of bars The stuff on their website. We don't do any of that. We basically sell between 10 and 15 different products Okay, um, because those are the products that people buy those are the ones that the central banks buy those are the ones that Institutions are buying, you know during um during the pandemic, you know, when it was really hard to get silver I was buying a thousand ounce silver bars and I was competing on purchases with with comics Because they needed the bars too. So we were actually buying the same bars for a lot of the same places so So that just the only reason I bring that up is to say that like I'm buying products that Banks are using to buy or the or the ETFs are using to back their ET Like we buy a lot of the same items because we know that those For time we're going to get you the best return because you're you're getting the most value the most bang for your buck And I think that's really important. So I think the first thing to do is like get educated call us We'll send in a free guy talk to somebody Ask a lot of really important questions because it is different than You know on your phone where you buy a stock or you buy, you know In those situations, you're just buying a fraction of a company As with us you're actually buying the whole thing that you're that you're the company, right? You're you're in charge of it. And I think that's just alone is sort of New concept for people is that they're the idea that they're owning it on their own. So I think that's the first thing To do and then just you know, I would start looking at the charts Researching you can cause and ask questions. I mean our staff is really well Uh reverse and like what's the trends and what's happened in metals? Um over the last 15 to 20 years So we can you know, you can always ask those questions like where was it? You know, where was gold 10 years ago? Where was it 20? Tapping what's happened the last six months? I mean, these are all Relevant questions that I think that anybody should ask Um, so I think getting educated on those things is is really important And then just you know, I think when you're looking at a more of a safety play like Old and silver applied to palladium But you're balancing it with the other things that you have so you're looking at Um, your portfolio as a whole and you know, I got my house. I got a little stock market. I go like what's What what do I want it? What do I want in sort of a safety play and that's how you determine? um, how much you want to put into uh into gold and silver And you know, you know, obviously there's people out there. I met the the ex CEO of Overstock Um, who's a huge golden silver buff. We were talking about and he's got so much of his net worth Uh in golden silver and bitcoin And so he has more than most but he just believes the whole system the dollar everything's gonna collapse and that's where his heart is That's where he believes I think you know people other people are like sort of in the middle They like yeah, that could happen But if it doesn't happen, you know, where do I want to be too? So I think you have to figure out what your level is and then you know, find a number that you feel comfortable with buying and You know test this out and get it shipped and And then I think you'll find um And read our reviews and do all those things and I would do that with any company that you're gonna buy any product Go and check don't like go to the go to the better business bureau. Go go to check reviews Go do all that spend a little time spend 20 minutes Especially in our space being unregulated. There are some bad actors out there and you want to be careful But I think you should do that with any any products before you make a purchase Yeah, absolutely, and you'll see and I've talked about noblegoals got five star ratings and good reviews all over the place But definitely you want to go check that out and like you said it is a balancing thing and you know I hear a lot from people asking You know, they don't necessarily have a ton of money to put into it But they want to try it out and they're wondering if you have sort of like, you know like hundred dollar bundles Or something like that a sort of entry level Ways of getting in to it Yeah, so so our our minimum cash purchase is 5000 Because we're we're sort of set up in a In a way that we're you know, if you're doing below that I would say find a local shop Like a coin or or dealer that can help you locally You know when you're dealing with a firm like us, you're gonna get the metal shift You're gonna have a concierge. You're gonna, you know, there's a lot of people behind a purchase so we typically focus on 5000 and above for cash And then for IRAs we we focus on 15 000 and above Okay, the reason we do that is because with the IRA they have to be stored in a depository You segregate a storage, but there is a fee pay 150 dollars per year We don't recommend anyone to do less than 15 000 because you're gonna have to store those metals for 150 bucks Which are gonna be responsible for so those are sort of our minimums set up We don't have any maximum on a purchase But yeah, anything above that is is sort of our our wheelhouse And you know, we we offer, you know, some incredible pricing It's a great even though gold and silver have been skyrocketing in terms of prices We have some unbelievable pricing on billion bars, billion coins There was an overreaction by A lot of the major mints last year. So they over minted So we have we have products at the lowest prices Near very near to the spot price the lowest we've seen in years To give you an idea during the pandemic silver eagles Our cost was like anywhere from eight to ten dollars above the spot price That that premiums way down. We're like, I think four or five dollars above the spot price now So that shrunk a lot bars. So it's it's a good even though price has gone up. It's still a very good time There's there we have a good inventory and you can get great some great pricing On on and silver's still 50% lower than where it was In 2011 so it's still still, you know, all time high for silver is 50. We're sitting in the, you know, 24 $25 range Okay, sounds good I wanted I want to bring some people in to talk. I'm trying to get them in here right now Um, but I did want to quickly ask you while we're waiting on that And this is another question I get I do talk about In the ads about that there is always risk and investment And they're just curious, you know with the volatility and all this what is noble goals approach? to risk management and are there any sort of processes in place to mitigate Any of those, you know potential downsides There's risk in any investment, right, you know, I think that's that's why you know It's important to be diversified um You have to If you buy a stock You know, it loses 50% of its value You know, that's it is what it is, you know, and and you know people always ask like what, you know, what can you do? What they somehow they think gold is different that there's some kind of protections in place You know, I think the protections in place for metals Are supply and demand liquidity And fungibility There's only enough gold in the world to fit in two and a half Olympic sized swimming pools. So there's not that much of it. So there is a limited supply Um, the biggest buyers of gold in the world are central banks like china Has been buying tons of gold It's even been reported this year specifically It's even reported that they have way more gold holdings than it's reported You know, because the royal gold council has like a list of how much how many tons each country has and There's a lot of reports that they have way more because they actually mine Internally too and they're not the best at Recording, if you know what I mean, right? So Yeah, right, they don't want to disclose. So I think that's You know a good good thing in any investment is you want like supply and demand Value um Fungibility like it's you can trade it anywhere in the world. You know, that's the cool thing about it is like ounce of gold here ounce of gold in Dubai ounce of gold in london, you know There's always value anywhere in the world. So that I think is great, you know, there's There's not always that No universal value of a product everywhere in the world, right? So um I think that gives it some some strength um, and and then I would just say that it's you know in Times like this where we have You know, we're in two wars here in the u.s. Maybe a third potentially you know people You know take tend to go to AFTI, you know during times like this Which is probably the only reason I would say is maybe that's right about next year is if we had that like black salon event Then I could see this, you know, uh You know, maybe a big pullback in the stock market But I think it's yeah, there's always downside risk into anything. Um, yeah, of course that's why That's what I was talking about 2000 is sort of that psychological number for a goal that I remember That broke a thousand in 2009 You know, there's people that you know, it was just kind of flirting around a thousand and then it just once it broke through You and it hit, you know 1900 and then pulled back to 12 and everybody said it was going to go back to a thousand And it just kind of never did it just kind of any time it would hit a really low number. You just see the massive buying That's typically a good sign Of of something that of an item that has inherent values that if it hits a really good number Or are buying it, you know pretty dramatically. So You know, you got it. You got a this is part of the messing It's it's like it in anything but I think we all have to make educated guesses about our investments And so this is kind of out of my wheelhouse But uh, one of our users here his name is riddle. He asks Do you think that bricks has the influence and practicality to replace the petrodollar? Considering the flattening chinese economy as well as western sanctions on russia It's that's been the big conversation. I think that's the idea was And they've wanted to do that. They've wanted to go away from petrodollar when they're making large transactions They are they are to some extent. I mean, they are doing less transactions in the dollar They're seeing them make transactions. I mean, obviously russia has been transacting in gold Very heavily for the last, you know year and a half Because they've they have sanctions against them and that's that's the big risk if you look at, you know Central bank holdings of us treasuries those have shrunk so dramatically over the last 10 years 10 years ago from today you had about It was about a 70 percent most central banks had up 70 to 72 percent Was in us treasuries Now we're below 60 we're like 59 and a half percent So you you are seeing people move away From the dollar In terms of, you know, these massive transactions Um, you know germany, uh, brought back a lot of their gold from the bank in new york They wanted to have it internally because they were worried about our debt So you are seeing people divest Over the last six months you've seen many heads of countries You know France's president many people saying yeah, we're divesting from the dollar. So yeah You can't have this thing move overnight and also I think at the end of the day Really isn't a better option out there that's been presented and until there is a better option Dollar will still have some value to it. Yeah in terms of countries because like we were saying like with china You know supposedly have a lot more gold than they say they do But because they're they're the way that they report to the world and it's so you can't trust What they're reporting, you know, we're not going to move to the end till there's more, you know A transparency about how things are going in that country and what's going on with that and how much debt they're in Because you know, there's a lot of estimations that they're in pretty dramatic debt because they've made a big real estate push Over the last few years and they've been heard by these higher interest rates of that the world's having also So I think until a better option is presented, you know, where the dollar will still be there but the big question will be In the next four or five years If china just says we want to call in some of this debt like we don't want to just take the interest Right, you know, we won't go without principal back And that's going to be the issue. That's the real issue that we're going to run into Because we don't have it Right, it looks like we actually have somebody here. What's up, ashley? Nothing, can you hear me well? We can hear you We got con here wondering, uh, what you got on your mind here Uh, well, I'm not sure that I'm worthy of the time Well, I'm I'm I'm a poor hillbilly who is uh Who has my home paid off and I have zero data. So I have some income that I'd like to contribute toward a retirement and mortgage and commercial back securities are crazy Real estate's crazy right now and everything looks too volatile and being undereducated about the subject I'm kind of looking for a safe place to make an investment Sure So you are you still working or you're no longer working? Yes. Yes, of course. I'm working. Yeah Oh, okay. Okay, and you have a 401k at your job or or No, sir. Um, I'm uh, I guess you would call me an independent contractor or a work from home person I only my income is meager. It's pretty good for my area, but it's meager compared to the national average I only bring a little over 4,000 a month But other than utilities, I have no debt my mortgage is paid off. That's amazing So I have some I'm I'm 44. So I have some income I have no retirement and I'm I'm looking for Something that I can contribute to that will provide me with some sort of meager retirement Yeah, absolutely. So what I would recommend is I mean, it sounds like from your situation You could be considered self-employed if you're a contractor what you may want to look into is starting a Individual retirement account like an IRA. You could either do a SEP IRA or traditional or Roth And and the reason you wouldn't want to do that is because those vehicles give you tax advantages You know, whether You want the tax advantages in the year that you put the money in or if you want them later on That would be a good way to to put some money aside that could grow a little bit easier because Being 44, you still, you know, have a long runway to Build a nice nest egg And the fact that you don't have any debt you can really start You know contributing and putting money away that can lead to to future growth So I would recommend looking into some kind of retirement vehicle That could get you and you know, you could buy you could buy gold and silver You could buy, you know, any other asset you want, but I think getting some money In a tax deferred vehicle would be Be very wise. Well, did you guys did you guys have anything else for them? I actually have to bow out because I have to go back to work But I just want to say thanks Collin for coming hanging out with the group. No, thank you. Yeah I appreciate you jumping on on your break and and You know, I hope, you know, this is informational. It was a lot of fun for me to answer questions I'm always happy to do it and you know, if any if we can ever do anything for you guys, you know We're we're always around and love this show and just appreciate, you know, coming on and talking about, you know Something fun and and something I love which is which is precious metals Well, we really appreciate it. I really appreciate it and uh, again, if anybody wants to give them a call It's 877-646-5347 And like I said, you can get the link direct link there and the description and pin comment of most of my videos Okay, thank you. Yes, and uh, Collin, uh, I appreciate you coming. Did you have anything else for us? It's great. It's fun. I'll talk to uh, have a safe happy Merry Christmas. Happy holidays, and I'll uh, I'll check you in 2024 See if any of my predictions are accurate. Yeah Well, I really appreciate it. Merry Christmas, Collin All right, thanks so much