 All right, so the first time I ever met Anthony was actually at a layer talk and Gosh, so I went to the top layer we said and I spoke at the top layer talk and he talked to us afterwards about Convention or something like that and you'd already done it one year, but a lot of people had talked to us and He was actually really grateful actually. I remember either seeing something on the top layer site about how good the The talk was that we had given or something and that it was by him, but that was it It was just a real brief impression. Now what really defined that for me was If for all the people watching this this massive people helping on this documentary, it's really amazing but the guy who is been with Anthony doing all the video work is the same dude is 2008-2009 and What he commented on the ride over here is we were getting ready to shoot was the integrity that he saw in Anthony from the experiences in that first year that he worked with him and I saw the same things my friend John He's a marketer and marketers can be like the biggest snakes in the world And I said dude John He seemed like a really passionate person and he looked at me said dude What the fuck else is there and that to find what real integrity is and that's what I saw on Anthony I mean there was a guy who developed this thing for nothing and you heard a shuteau talk about it at the Conference of series like the only person I know who sacrifices everything for something that he believes in that I see day to day Or I see all the time is Anthony who runs the 21 convention and man that that's the truth. You see that