 Hi everyone, we made it downtown. Time for the full review of the Nike Zoomfly 3s. That's right, there they are. First, we're gonna roll out and I fully realize that I am way late to the game, probably two to three months late. Yeah, I think I was seeing full reviews of the Zoomfly 3 published in July on other YouTube channels out there. So you gotta follow your passion in this world and mountain running is definitely that for me. So that's why this pass, so I'm basically in catch-up mode for all of these road running shoes. And I should mention that this is definitely a road, neutral daily trainer. Although you might be able to use this for racing, I'm gonna talk about that back in the studio tonight. All right, let's roll out, lace up and get rolling here. Full review, oh yeah. And also I've got last year's iteration. So these are 2019, these are the 2018, the Zoomfly Flynits. We're gonna do a little comparison in the studio tonight. All right, so I went, just so everyone knows, I went true to size and you can see I've got a little over a thumb width. So who knows, maybe I could have gone a half size down, but I'm glad I did not because Nike is usually a little narrow through the midfoot. So I think true to size was good for me. You can see that thumb width there in the tow box. Yeah, just so you know, true to size. It's tempting to go half size down, but I'm glad I did not. All right, I think we're ready. Okay, there we go. So here are the Zoomfly Threes, and I will say that the ride compared to the Carbon X, I would say is quite a bit different. I don't know if there's anybody else out there who's tried both shoes out, but the Carbon X definitely feels a little more firm through the gate cycle, which might be good for racing, okay? I like a little more of a snappy firm landing for racing. And of course, both shoes have carbon fiber plates in the midsole. So part of that's carbon fiber plate revolution. All right, onward and upward. We're moving on to massage real quick. The legs are a little tired. They're a little tired. And it's to be expected during this big week of training. This is the biggest week of training leading in to Amsterdam. All right, see you in the shooty-o. All right, everyone, let's rock and roll. Full review of the Nike Zoomfly Three. And yes, that three represents the fact that this is the third iteration in this lineup from Nike. Here is the 2018 iteration, the Nike Zoomfly Flynit. And this is the Zoomfly Three, a completely different upper from 2018. We'll talk about that in a minute. It's a neutral road trainer or is it a racer? We'll get to the bottom of that by the end of this blog. And let's dive into a few specs. Oh, by the way, I've taken it to 60 miles now. So we're past the 50 mile mark. And all right, let's start, first of all, with the stack height. What are we doing here, Nike? What are we doing? 40 millimeters in the heel, 32 in the forefoot. All right, everyone, I'm editing and I'm researching for all of you, SuperPsych, that stack height that I just told you is not correct, okay? I knew it was too tall. I was like, there's no way it was 40 and 32. So I've been looking around, researching, trying to figure it out. So it's 36 millimeters in the heel, 28 in the forefoot. That is the actual stack height. I can confirm that from a couple reliable sources. Sorry about that. Again, if I say something wrong or incorrect, I will correct it. And now I'm not gonna set up the cameras again in the studio, so I'm filming on my phone right now. Okay, roll the tape. For an eight millimeter drop. Now, what's interesting, so that's high, that's very, so this falls into definitely the maximalist category for road shoes. Now, what's interesting is this guy has a 10 millimeter drop from heel to toe. So they decided to drop the drop by two millimeters from 2018 to 2019 and as far as weight goes. So we're looking at nine ounces in men's size nine or 255 grams. And let's dive into the zoom fly three upper. Probably the biggest update from 2018 to 2019 is what they did to the upper. So as you know, zoom fly flying it was big in 2018. The Nike vapor fly 4% flying it. That's why they called that shoe that is because of this upper. And so this vapor weave upper is what they're calling it in 2019. It's supposed to be more, well, it is more translucent. So you can actually see through it a little bit better. It's supposed to be more breathable. And also what I would actually really agree with is resist water better. Meaning when you're sweating or if you're running in wet conditions, rain or puddles or whatever the case may be, it's not supposed to retain the, it's not going to absorb the water I should say into the upper because it almost has a little bit of a, I don't want to say plastic feel but it's definitely not a fabric feel if that makes sense. So I could see and I actually have tested it doesn't hold the sweat in as much when you're pounding the miles out. Now, yes, I'm going to go there. The question of the day. This might be a hot topic. Oh boy. And I realize this is very niched down question of the day but I'm going to go there. Okay. I don't want to start rumors but I actually need some help. I need some research from all of you out there. Does anybody know? And I think I saw an article last week but I can't find it, unfortunately. I thought I saw an article. I think it was actually a news source out of Kenya. Does anybody know? And this is not the question of the day but does anybody know if Kipchoge, Elia Kipchoge, when he tries to break two hours in Vienna is he going to wear a, is he going to wear an upper, a flignet upper or a vapor weave upper? Does anybody know? I thought I saw an article and it could not, it may have, you know, it's the internet but I thought I saw an article where he is going to use flignet over vapor weave. Call me crazy. Call me crazy if anybody can find any information on what Kipchoge is going to wear in Vienna. I'd be fascinated to hear. But the question of the day is for those out there who have tried both flignet and vapor weave, what do you prefer and why? And so that is the question of the day, flignet or vapor weave. And again, I realize that's very, very specific. Okay, moving on to that midsole. Again, huge stack height. I do not feel unstable that high off the ground. Now you're not going to get a lot of ground contact feel. That's kind of the opposite of what's happening with this midsole. Now it's react foam. So it's not Zoomax foam. It's react foam from heel to toe. This entire midsole with a carbon fiber plate inside that midsole tucked away in that bed of midsole. So definitely springy, okay? I think that's the best word. I wouldn't say snappy or pop, maybe pop, but I would say springy. It just has a good little spring to it through that midsole. So I'm enjoying the ride. I must say, and especially when my legs feel tired and I feel like I need a little help to get done with a harder day or a longer day, I tend to grab for that midsole, that react foam midsole and onto the outsole, the bottom of the shoe. A pretty big change from last year's 2018 iteration. I don't know if you can see that there. It's just a big, it's a big update. A different tread pattern or yeah, outsole pattern. Gosh, what else? I mean, similar rubber placement as far as durability to create a little more lifespan to the shoes and a little different shape through the toe box especially. I don't know if you can see that. Just a different shape to that toe box. Again, nothing, I would say, okay, I'll say this much. Now it's kind of coming back to me. I think I feel more stable in the ZoomFly 3 compared to the ZoomFly flying it. It's just a little wider landing area through that outsole. So overall, I'd say a good update, not a drastic update but a good update to the outsole on the ZoomFly 3. So we already talked about the fit of the shoe. As far as comfort goes, it is very comfortable when you slide your foot into the cavity of the shoe. It has a little bit of that booty construction inside there and it feels good. Now, is it more comfortable than the flying it? I don't know. Honestly, I like that feel of the flying it. So I don't know if I'm gonna say it's more comfortable than the ZoomFly flying it, but overall, the comfort is there, the midsole comfort is there with that high stack height. I don't feel like I'm pounding pavement when I'm out there on the hard roads. And for a positive and a drawback, I'm gonna go with that springy feel. That stack height is pretty serious. It's just that nice spring when your legs are tired. I appreciate it. In fact, I'll just tell you right now, I've got a 15 mile tempo on Sunday. So come back to see if I can hold that 545 pace again for 15 miles. I took the Hoka Carbon Xs out, yeah, Hoka Carbon Xs out the last tempo run I did. I'm probably gonna do the ZoomFly 3s for the next tempo run. So stay tuned, there's a bug in here. Stay tuned for how that goes. And then the drawback for the ZoomFly 3, I think Nike is maybe overthinking the upper a little bit. This is, again, this might be a little out there, but I think they can simplify the vapor weave construction. I think there's maybe just a little too much layering happening and again, that toe box scrunching. I just, I don't know. I think the vapor weave is, I think it's moving in the right direction. I don't think they should go necessarily backward to flying it, but I do think they're, oh, it just seems a little too complex through that upper. And again, just that scrunching, I just hope they can iron that out literally for 2020. How will I use the ZoomFly 3? Definitely tempo and threshold runs moving forward. However, I will say, I think you could definitely use this shoe for racing from 10 miles, yes, up to the marathon. Absolutely. Now, is it the lightest shoe out there? No, but it'll do the job just fine. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if I see quite a few people in this shoe in Amsterdam. I wouldn't be shocked at all. And then that price point, 160, oh yeah, first of all, well, okay, no, let's go price point forced. $160. I've been thinking about this and I think they probably nailed it from a business standpoint. I think a lot of people will pay that. I would actually, I would frankly wait until Christmas time. I think the price will come down soon. It's close, it's close. Again, it's like that 10, if it was 150, I think it would be spot on. 160 is just, it's just a little high for me. So they're really, really close from a business standpoint. I bet a lot of people are like right on the brink of deciding should I buy it, should I not buy it? And I bet a lot of people will buy it. And for the score on the ZoomFly 3, we're gonna go with eight out of 10. I almost went 7.9, but I think it earned an eight in my books. And maybe after my 15 mile tempo on Sunday, we'll see if it earns the eight out of 10 officially. And that is my full review of the Nike ZoomFly 3 after 50 miles. Overall, I'm very, very pleased, but I'm excited for 2020 as well. All right, thanks for being here everyone. Thanks for watching. Thanks for just supporting this channel and pushing it forward together. We are in this together, you guys rock. All right, a couple old vlogs for all of you an old Nike Vaporfly 4%, flying it vlog on the right and on the left. We're gonna throw in the Nike playlist and the Nike running shoe playlist on the left. If you really wanna dive into a ton of other Nike vlog running shoes. There we go. All right, see beauty, work hard and love each other. See you tomorrow.