 So here at the photo Kina 2018 and who are you? Hi, my name is Chahar Binun I'm the CEO of humanized technologies the creators of those views cameras So you say humanized technologies humanized technologies. So you humanize the technologies we humanize the technologies indeed It's a good name even though it came up before those cameras and views plus is an existing product that we have very successful 3d 360 VR camera And lots of cameras around yes, it has eight cameras generating 4k per eye 4k per eye in 360 in 360 But you don't have up and down right or you don't have all the way we have all the way you have everything It's a full spherical stereoscopic Camera so are they are also pointing a little bit up and down some of them Or they're like very fish eye or it's off. It's a fish eye vertical one that is solving the problem 180 degrees Vertical nice field of view that is capable of capturing on the zenith and So are you the world leader and 360 3d? Well, you know world leader is a with this kind of competition is a is a big world But definitely one of the leading companies maybe one of the leading companies in this arena Because it's not enough to have 360 you also want to have 3d or Sometimes it's enough to only have 360 We are great believers of 3d the entire company's built on 3d We have more than 70 patents in the field of 3d and computer vision And we think that in order to create an immersive content It must be in 3d because we see each other's in in 3d So yes, all our products are related in one way or another to 3d Nice and so this is the views plus there was a views before what's the difference right well The main difference that views plus is capable of doing live broadcast in real time We have also improved some of the things that were at the views or one including Improved audio and improved optics, but in general it's the same kind of camera So live broadcast to YouTube live broadcast to YouTube to Facebook to wherever you want That's really cool, right? A lot of users do this A lot of our customers are buying the views plus because of this capability of Broadcasting in real time their event And so the UI is on the phone to to manage it or you just click and that's it No, this one requires a computer to stitch the content the 8 full HD sensors and Broadcasting this at the same time so it's capable of stitching and broadcasting every frame But you said it was 4k per eye or not for the live streaming. It's 4k per eye 8k inside the camera that needs to be processed 4k for each eye. Ah, yeah 4k because it's 1080 plus 1080 plus 1080 plus 1080 is 4k Right, that's that's really awesome. So this is actually an 8k camera Anyway, it's 8k camera, but you're enjoying only the 4k because but in 3d and 2 times 4k camera at least right Yeah, and what's the price the price of this one is 1200 1195 US dollars and euros Actually, the views one is still available in the market for only 799 so if you if you're not interested in the Livestreaming then you can say $400, but you need a very strong computer to live-stitch Well, you better have a good Computer with a good graphic cards 1080 or something so better not it's difficult to find a laptop that can do it or laptop Graphic cards, there was no chance you could do the live stitching built-in No, not in this one because too many cameras too much data to process and not at this price range Nice and and you also have a new new product Yeah, and here we're at the photo kina and we are very very proud to announce here this cute little Device, which is called the views XR What's unique about this camera? It's it's a dual camera. It's actually a VR 180 camera that can easily be changed into a 2d 360 camera So you have two cameras in one it's 5.7 K Where is a 5.7 5.7 K? We are very proud to increase it by 50% of the resolution from for from the standard 4k available in the market To 5.7 with just one click you open it from a 2d 360 It looks like a little robot face Indeed and it's not by coincidence because we are using the same Stereoscopic distance of human eyes and it doesn't look so human. So but it does look it does like have a character wouldn't you say so? It looks so cool. It is and not only cool, but also high quality videos and photos So was it launched at photo kina before? We had a like a sneak peek in july back in july announcing our intention But now we've opened it to a pre-order and we are happy to ship it In about eight weeks from now towards the end of november So anybody who buys it now in our website at views dot camera Will get it not only with the camera But also with a very cool underwater case or a protective cover That we provide As well as with an sd card and a free shipping. So it's a pretty good deal for the pre-order customers Can we can we look around it? So is there like sd card slot under it or so here you have sd card? You can have up to 256 Gigabyte maybe even more than that with a charging one. This is the on and off button Which is very simple. You can also change the mode here The wi-fi connection to a very robust and rich application That allows you to manipulate the content to do what we call editor's cut Add objects and stream it live Quite a lot of stuff comes with the Application live stream youtube facebook youtube facebook and also some any any other platform that you have But you cannot live stream 5.7 k right? No, the 4k is stitched inside the camera if you want to use it at 5.7 k You do need to take it into our studio the same by the way the same studio of the views plus and you can A post-process it stitch it de-warp it and stitch it and then you can Use the content at 5. Is there any chance that the 5.7 k can be live streamed through the computer? Or it's only post yes once Not live stream once it is stitched you can do the uh, the broadcast What to be cool is uh is Well, if you if you do live stream, then it's only going to do 4k built-in, right? Yes, if you want to do live stream it's Live stitched inside the camera, and then you can broadcast it in real time And stream it and broadcast it In real time, but it's not going to record a 5.7 k all at the same time. No, it's just going to do You need to decide using the application whether you want to use a 4k or a 5.7 k If you want to use the maximum quality you better use the 5.7 k and then stitch it later on In the uh in your computer and uh, is it the same when you do 3d? Then it's a half of a 4k for each eye Or how does it work? Yes, it's a half of a 4k or half of a 5.7 k So actually you're enjoying a 3k per eye in a 3d mode if you're using the 180 vr Would you say 3k? 3k per eye? Yes, slightly less than the 3k, you know Nice, um, uh, what's the battery life? Uh, how does it compare with some of the other? Well, well, uh, for the views we use places. We were very proud to have a two hours recording time Uh, for this one since it's a more consumer one and the uh space is a bit smaller We have a one hour recording time Which is uh good enough I think for most cameras obviously if you are using a power bank You can extend it as much as you want So it looks very nice that it looks like the so the lens is uh, you know, it's there's a space here a little bit So is that the the the best design that can be done for a full 360 design we think that the design is remarkable nothing less but remarkable it is um For the performance also not just for the design performance for that for the design and for any other aspect It may look like a simple camera and that's good that it looks like a simple camera But think about how complex is it to create a dual camera with the the mechanical capabilities Of a camera that needs to change thousands of times from 180 to 360 so how many people do you think are going to do a 360 and how many people are going to do the 3d? You know, that's a very interesting and good question We think that people who are interested even slightly bit in a 180 VR would be interested in this camera and they said oh And by the way, I can change it into a 360 which is obviously a more popular format right now, but We see a Great attraction of the 180 vr And we think that this would be the engine to to buy it whether in terms of content they would use A 180 or 360. It's a big. It's a big question. It's completely different type of content In a way, this camera is a bridge between a social vr camera Which is 360 that you enjoy on the smartphone or on youtube To a 180 vr camera where you can actually see a more immersive content And how does you how would you say maybe the quality is compared to the some other competitors? Well, I do 360 2d. Well, number one This is uh, the first camera that is doing a dual camera at 5.7. Can you do you know resolution is important for virtual reality? um So we think that a 50 percent more resolution is uh, is extremely important for for the quality No other aspects. I think it's like similar to the leading 360 cameras And similar to the leading 180 vr, but it's the nice thing here is that it's the same device And youtube is also doing this a lot of promotion for the 160 180 vr, right? Yes, and we are very like a new kind of thing. Yes, and we are very proud to say that we are working very closely with the youtube team an amazing team that is pushing very hard this format and we are In the process of certification Of certifying this camera to the 180 vr format of youtube It's at the end of the process. So we will we'll finish it up in the next few weeks Any chance to connect the external mic? That's not possible. You have to do it post processing Um with external mic Yes, you have to do it with the post processing. But we do have we do have four microphones here and we don't have four microphones here that And another one here behind That's with a relatively, you know inexpensive consumer camera that is capable of not only capturing in 3d and in 360 But it's also capturing 360 audio But this as i said before it's done in the post processing of our studio So you do 360 audio high quality high quality 360 audio Like people don't need to they even don't even want to consider next an external mic It's good enough. Well, you know external mics also has some other things For example, if you want to use it for an interview like that It's not It's not the right purpose for that. But if you're gonna use it for a ambisonic audio Then it's uh, it's doing it very well So you have a big booth right here at fotokina. Can we look around for a second? You have some stuff you're showing? Yes, sure So let's walk around nice So so what are they doing right here? Oh, this is a green screen. It's a very interesting This is a green screen that you can You can be shot and choose the scene that you want Whether it is under the water Whether it is a dancing scene or whether it is a Dracula scene as you want so the user is choosing that and we are of course We are shooting the user and actually place the user inside a scene that was already shot by the view's camera And that's becomes really realistic. You actually see yourself You can actually see what you see So you position him dancing right there with these guys Where is he? Oh, he's dancing right there But yeah, guys, we're not there. No, it's the template just added So that's that's that's a very cool Activity that we have here in the booth. Let's see some other stuff here at the booth So here's the the experience one second place where we Where we show mostly on oculus Yeah So these are stand-alone oculus. These are stand-alone oculus, but I'm What kind of stuff is going on in there? Everything that we shot basically on the And the views plus on the views one all the kind of contests are created together with nasa and natural geographic in the space under the water inside the mouth of a shark And with Which of your employees that you sent to the shark actually one of our customers went there and shot With with actually the views plus camera and then the shark came Wanted to eat the camera with its case Found out that it's not so interesting and left and the experience that we got out of it Is visiting the mouth of a shark Which is a ain't 3d by the way you see all those With no we actually with with this guy It's and we have an underwater speaking of a waterproof. Let's see the underwater section of the booth So here you see the uh the future Of the music's are So so that goes in there that goes in there And here you see the underwater case of the views views plus Nice actually the shark was trying to eat case That shark there this one here Yeah And this fits in there this fits in there very well. How much it has this That's you know, by the way the only way of creating 3d 360 under the water in the world Unless you have a specific rig that you built for hundreds of thousands of dollars That's the easiest way to create 3d 360 content under the water So discovery channels actually is the one with the shark Use it there our customers provided the content and It's only 2900 dollars the case Together with the camera so it's uh So it's it's more expensive than the camera itself because you don't do it in mass production But it's still by far the most affordable way and how deep you can go with this case That's another interesting question. We thought that it would be up to only 100 feet and our customer took it Way below 100 meters, but it gets too dark there and it still works well Yeah And it's not designed for super darkness, right? So what are they checking? To locate the certain objects and Eliminate them and once they see that they get a little present and also they can See the specific video with the shark. So let's walk over here. There's Just demos around here. Yeah, and that's the that's the main demo of all our cameras We have the views plus here that is capable of shooting everything here and Streaming it directly to the big screen and then we have all the The cameras around you with all the various colors including the views XR So what's what's the price? The price of this camera is 439 us dollars in the us 439 euros in euro And as I said, it's available for pre-order right now. It's used off camera as well as In the near future in other Other places and it would ship by the end of november Nice, so it's an exciting world. The 360 camera business and all that we are definitely enjoying that that world Talk about it in the last few years, right? But what do you see about the future of it? Well, we haven't seen yet mass adoption of Of the the mass market of VR but what we are seeing is steadily growing this Still for VR enthusiasts still more for professionals still for people who are trying to make money out of VR but But we see a bigger and bigger adoption. Maybe the hype is a bit down now from 2016 when we met the first time but But we still see an increasing Market and we are hoping that The better the technologies are both on the capturing devices as well on as well as on the viewing devices Mass adoption will arrive and sooner than expected. It's up to you to create the mass adoption, right? We are because if you create something awesome and people will buy you're absolutely right about that. We are committed to the adoption of VR including together with our competition So few companies pushing it and we are improving the technologies on a monthly basis Trying to make the best out of it and the easy to use higher quality and more affordable And you can see I think the progress not only on the capturing devices But also on the platforms like the youtube and the facebook of the world as well as the viewing devices So it's moving forward steadily and we are hoping for the mass production mass adoption to come You